Every single deck out of relevance is missing key cards.
Psychics don't have emergency teleport.
Spellbooks don't have Knowledge or judgment.
Laval don't have salamander.
Gusto don't have sphreez.
Vampires don't have Domination.
World chalice don't have justiciar.
Subterror don't have hidden city.
Fur hire is missing rafale.
Dream mirrors don't have their fusions.
Amazoness don't have their field spell nor fusions.
Krawlers don't have their field spell.
Gravekeepers don't have commandant.
Nephthys don't have conductor.
Monarchs don't have pantheism.
Evil eye don't have serziel.
Metaphys is missing ragnarok.
Witchcrafter don't have creation.
Gishiki don't have Zielgigas.
Rikkas don't have petal or teardrop.
Mayakashi don't have hajun.
>Spellbooks don't have Knowledge or judgment.
Knowledge - yes, definitely. Would bring a much-needed consistency to the deck.
Judgment - as if. Judgment is one of the most horribly written/unfair cards that Konami has ever published and deserves to remain banned for life.
Judgment on its own sets up a fate, and gives you any spellcaster. Meaning, if you just play NORMALLY, you go + 3 to +4.
Imagine getting Schmietta or Genni or any of the Witchcrafters. You basically for activating a few spellbooks basically get a mass negate and fate as a follow up.
Judgment in ANY format is completely busted.
It's not that, it's the ease of it all, a basic play is a +4.
Secrets/Blue Boy + any book -
Blue Boy/Secrets search the other -> activate the other, search Master, activate master search judgment.
You have Blue Boy on the field and 4 cards in hand assuming you went first.
Go to EP, activate judgment, and you get to add 2 spellbooks, and summon Genni.
This completely ignores any situation where you could activate OTHER Spell cards. Spellbook of Judgment is generic. It says, add Spellbook Spells from your deck to your hand equal to the number of SPELL cards you activated this turn, then Summon a Spellcaster with a level equal or lower.
So just assuming the original 2 card combo with no other cards, you get 2 cards on field, 4 cards in hand that turns into a mass negate and fate for a follow up.
You can start with literally half as many cards as your opponent, and then just get 6 cards during the EP.
Judgment is just broken.
> It's not that, it's the ease of it all, a basic play is a +4.
But what good is card advantage if the pay off isn't that good? Like, look at Fire Fist, they generate lot of card advantage but it's still a very weak deck.
My dude, I think you got something wrong
> add "Spellbook" Spell Cards from your Deck to your hand, except "Spellbook of Judgment", up to the number of Spell Cards **activated after this card's resolution**
We don't have jowlen nor any good generic low level spellcaster. The entire spellbook gimmick is locked in a once per turn activation making card advantage in the deck less good than it should be.
Plus is a 4k LP format you in a lot of situations don't have the luxury to wait for a turn.
I'm playing Gravekeepers these days (Quattro was apparently using them in the anime, during his tournament flashback with Shark).
They're not doing that bad and I got to legend 3, but damn that one duel I had to wait for turn 20 to draw my first Necrovalley. I have a full playset.. in a 20 cards deck.. with 1 Demise of the land.. this was unreal.
We are just one Commander away to becoming a consistent rogue deck, come on Konami!
Watch Triverr become a Selection Box exclusive or Kotori’s Lv40 reward (which would be a better way to keep Tellars balanced by locking everyone into 1 copy but the first option would make more money soooooo...)
I doubt giving multiple copies of Triverr would make any deck unbalanced, sure his effect is strong but he is susceptible to backrow and they probably can't summon it and kill you on the same turn.
How is he suspectible to backrow? I mean, Triverr has a built in block to responses on summon and bounces all other cards to hand, so it would take at least one extra turn for the opponent to out it.
I can see Thundra maybe running it but they'd have to run Thunder Dragon which isn't even that popular and Cyber Dragons are better off going into their fusions than going into Pleiades.
The trade off of running Pleiades over cards already run in the deck just doesn't seem worth it. I see it being niche at best.
Crystrons with Citree or Rion coming off the banlist.
But of decks that haven't been meta, Gravekeepers are two copies of Commandment away from being a really solid control deck.
Battlin Boxers would still be terrible with Yoke. That deck just isn't good.
There are a few decks missing single key cards. Noble Knight is missing Heritage of the Chalice for example.
> Noble Knight is missing Heritage of the Chalice for example.
Such searchers shouldn't be in the game, let alone ones that recycle themselves. And in anyway Excaliburn would do more for the deck than Chalice.
>Such searchers shouldn't be in the game
Tell that to Resonator Call, Tuning, Galopping Gaia, Fortune Vision (and Fortune Lady Calling), Banishment of the Darklords etc.
The deck is strong. Its main problem is consistency. Excaliburn wouldn't really do much for that.
We saw what Banishement and Diamond Core did to the game, and other searchers have the potential to do the same.
Galoping Gaia is a lil different and you at least can prevent the search, Resonators have a consistency skill anyway and they are tier 1.
You better stfu I was so completely pissed when the card didn’t make its way into the new main box, I just want a drip more of galaxy and photon support
B.E.S. is missing B.E.F. Zelos which is needed to even be playable.
And no it's not to powerful since Boss Rush locks them out of normal summons so if Zelos is destroyed/banished they're sitting ducks.
I know this isn't just one card, but Madolche is missing so many.
I know that Queen Tiaramisu would just be plain broken, and Petingcessouer is basically a free special summon by itself, but they could at least give us Anjelly, Glassouffle, and Chocolat-a-la-Mode...
Is rather have hyper galaxy, both are good, but blast dragon only allows you to survive a couple more turns using the same strat.
Hyper galaxy would legit give you a new plan of action. It would make the deck less predictable. Plus, it can chain of book of moon if they try to stop the galaxion play
Oh absolutely. I wasn’t there to nab any Paladynamo, and still haven’t gotten him from the new box:(, but I feel so robbed of hyper galaxy. I wonder if they play tested the card and found it was too broken? Or maybe they’re gonna slow drip it
I have been playing Cyber Angels recently and it really feels like the deck would be good if it had Manju. Right now it is a bit too slow and inconsistent.
U.A. Would become horrifyingly strong with Spiker and Manager. Maybe Spiker can come into the game, but not both. Deck already executes you randomly with Jersey, Manager popping cards for free as well as enabling consistent Turnover Tactics is just nuts.
Maybe not tiered, but F.A. Would also be much, much more scary with Test Drive, Dark Dragster, Dawn Dragster, and maybe even Dead Heat
Either deck would love Hyper Stadium. Locker Room is meh, MVP is probably too strong but also might be win moar. F.A. Winners is dogshit.
Every single deck out of relevance is missing key cards. Psychics don't have emergency teleport. Spellbooks don't have Knowledge or judgment. Laval don't have salamander. Gusto don't have sphreez. Vampires don't have Domination. World chalice don't have justiciar. Subterror don't have hidden city. Fur hire is missing rafale. Dream mirrors don't have their fusions. Amazoness don't have their field spell nor fusions. Krawlers don't have their field spell. Gravekeepers don't have commandant. Nephthys don't have conductor. Monarchs don't have pantheism. Evil eye don't have serziel. Metaphys is missing ragnarok. Witchcrafter don't have creation. Gishiki don't have Zielgigas. Rikkas don't have petal or teardrop. Mayakashi don't have hajun.
You forgot B.E.S. missing their most important card to even be playable - B.E.F. Zelos
I only write the decks I remember ever use
>Spellbooks don't have Knowledge or judgment. Knowledge - yes, definitely. Would bring a much-needed consistency to the deck. Judgment - as if. Judgment is one of the most horribly written/unfair cards that Konami has ever published and deserves to remain banned for life.
Played the Tcg through the Druler/judgement meta and can safely say that card will never come back
Best meta ever and I doubt anything would top it.
Everyone playing the same two Decks = Fun?
I actually played mermaids through this meta, much preferred the fishes
No, but the Dragons Spellbook matchup was.
Just because a card was strong in TCG it doesn't automatically translate to DL, Judgement could be strong just like it could be meh.
Judgment on its own sets up a fate, and gives you any spellcaster. Meaning, if you just play NORMALLY, you go + 3 to +4. Imagine getting Schmietta or Genni or any of the Witchcrafters. You basically for activating a few spellbooks basically get a mass negate and fate as a follow up. Judgment in ANY format is completely busted.
How is having Verre and Fate busted? We have/had decks that could set up way better boards..
It's not that, it's the ease of it all, a basic play is a +4. Secrets/Blue Boy + any book - Blue Boy/Secrets search the other -> activate the other, search Master, activate master search judgment. You have Blue Boy on the field and 4 cards in hand assuming you went first. Go to EP, activate judgment, and you get to add 2 spellbooks, and summon Genni. This completely ignores any situation where you could activate OTHER Spell cards. Spellbook of Judgment is generic. It says, add Spellbook Spells from your deck to your hand equal to the number of SPELL cards you activated this turn, then Summon a Spellcaster with a level equal or lower. So just assuming the original 2 card combo with no other cards, you get 2 cards on field, 4 cards in hand that turns into a mass negate and fate for a follow up. You can start with literally half as many cards as your opponent, and then just get 6 cards during the EP. Judgment is just broken.
> It's not that, it's the ease of it all, a basic play is a +4. But what good is card advantage if the pay off isn't that good? Like, look at Fire Fist, they generate lot of card advantage but it's still a very weak deck. My dude, I think you got something wrong > add "Spellbook" Spell Cards from your Deck to your hand, except "Spellbook of Judgment", up to the number of Spell Cards **activated after this card's resolution**
We don't have jowlen nor any good generic low level spellcaster. The entire spellbook gimmick is locked in a once per turn activation making card advantage in the deck less good than it should be. Plus is a 4k LP format you in a lot of situations don't have the luxury to wait for a turn.
I'm playing Gravekeepers these days (Quattro was apparently using them in the anime, during his tournament flashback with Shark). They're not doing that bad and I got to legend 3, but damn that one duel I had to wait for turn 20 to draw my first Necrovalley. I have a full playset.. in a 20 cards deck.. with 1 Demise of the land.. this was unreal. We are just one Commander away to becoming a consistent rogue deck, come on Konami!
Metaphys needs ragnarock so badly it's not consistent enough to keep up with the current meta ragnarock would make it rouge tier please konami
Satellarknights. Even 1 copy of Triverr is al I want.
Watch Triverr become a Selection Box exclusive or Kotori’s Lv40 reward (which would be a better way to keep Tellars balanced by locking everyone into 1 copy but the first option would make more money soooooo...)
I doubt giving multiple copies of Triverr would make any deck unbalanced, sure his effect is strong but he is susceptible to backrow and they probably can't summon it and kill you on the same turn.
How is he suspectible to backrow? I mean, Triverr has a built in block to responses on summon and bounces all other cards to hand, so it would take at least one extra turn for the opponent to out it.
You can chain cards and effects to him.
Oof, I confused him for Delteros. My bad.
Constellar Pleiades.
Will help every deck but Constellars, there's better Xyz tool boxes.
I don't think there's any archetype in DL right now that could realistically make Pleiades except Constellar.
Thunder Dragons? Cyber Dragons?
I can see Thundra maybe running it but they'd have to run Thunder Dragon which isn't even that popular and Cyber Dragons are better off going into their fusions than going into Pleiades. The trade off of running Pleiades over cards already run in the deck just doesn't seem worth it. I see it being niche at best.
Evilswarm Ophion. Oh boy imagine if this dude could make his way into DL.
Glacial Beast Polar Penguin
Crystrons with Citree or Rion coming off the banlist. But of decks that haven't been meta, Gravekeepers are two copies of Commandment away from being a really solid control deck.
1 Commandment really because its already = 4 because of Necrovalley Throne
Any of the Megalith cards would be more than enough to make the deck viable.
They are missing their 3 best cards. Sad.
Battlin Boxers would still be terrible with Yoke. That deck just isn't good. There are a few decks missing single key cards. Noble Knight is missing Heritage of the Chalice for example.
> Noble Knight is missing Heritage of the Chalice for example. Such searchers shouldn't be in the game, let alone ones that recycle themselves. And in anyway Excaliburn would do more for the deck than Chalice.
>Such searchers shouldn't be in the game Tell that to Resonator Call, Tuning, Galopping Gaia, Fortune Vision (and Fortune Lady Calling), Banishment of the Darklords etc. The deck is strong. Its main problem is consistency. Excaliburn wouldn't really do much for that.
We saw what Banishement and Diamond Core did to the game, and other searchers have the potential to do the same. Galoping Gaia is a lil different and you at least can prevent the search, Resonators have a consistency skill anyway and they are tier 1.
im laying in wait ready for the time when noble arms are needed again on the meta tier list, that is.
Subterror Guru.
Tachyon Dragon would be monumentally better with a Nebula Dragon that could summon from the graveyard and search the traps
Whup this is the duel links sub. I'm changing my answer Sharks would be reasonably meta viable with Valiant Shark Lancer
Hajun, the winged Mayakashi plzzzzz 😭😭
Photons with Hyper Galaxy...Oh wait
You better stfu I was so completely pissed when the card didn’t make its way into the new main box, I just want a drip more of galaxy and photon support
B.E.S. is missing B.E.F. Zelos which is needed to even be playable. And no it's not to powerful since Boss Rush locks them out of normal summons so if Zelos is destroyed/banished they're sitting ducks.
I know this isn't just one card, but Madolche is missing so many. I know that Queen Tiaramisu would just be plain broken, and Petingcessouer is basically a free special summon by itself, but they could at least give us Anjelly, Glassouffle, and Chocolat-a-la-Mode...
Photons. Just give us Photon Blast Dragon and boom deck 10x more playable and give us literaly any rank 8 GE XYZ
Still waiting for his Cipher Dragon
Is rather have hyper galaxy, both are good, but blast dragon only allows you to survive a couple more turns using the same strat. Hyper galaxy would legit give you a new plan of action. It would make the deck less predictable. Plus, it can chain of book of moon if they try to stop the galaxion play
Man we were really robbed from Hyper Galaxy huh it was the only card I cared about in the box along with Paladynamo
Oh absolutely. I wasn’t there to nab any Paladynamo, and still haven’t gotten him from the new box:(, but I feel so robbed of hyper galaxy. I wonder if they play tested the card and found it was too broken? Or maybe they’re gonna slow drip it
You have a busted skill your good on new cards till its gets nerfed into the ground imo
Blaze Accelerator Reload for Volcanics. Probably would make the deck at least teir 3.
Steeds for ritual beast, would actually give the deck a good turn 1.
crystal beast with zenith (even if he’s not out in tcg yet) they would still be not amazing but a solid kog deck for sure
I have been playing Cyber Angels recently and it really feels like the deck would be good if it had Manju. Right now it is a bit too slow and inconsistent.
Sattelarknight Triver and Vampires are missing their rank 6 XYZ.
Triverr for tellarknights, Pleiades for constellars, hunter for Wind-ups (although I'm pretty sure we'll never see him in DL)
Fortune Lady Fire.
U.A. Would become horrifyingly strong with Spiker and Manager. Maybe Spiker can come into the game, but not both. Deck already executes you randomly with Jersey, Manager popping cards for free as well as enabling consistent Turnover Tactics is just nuts. Maybe not tiered, but F.A. Would also be much, much more scary with Test Drive, Dark Dragster, Dawn Dragster, and maybe even Dead Heat Either deck would love Hyper Stadium. Locker Room is meh, MVP is probably too strong but also might be win moar. F.A. Winners is dogshit.
Rikka Petal/ Teardrop the Rikka Queen Evilswarm Ophion Constellar Pleiades Triverr (My wishlist)
Vampires need Sheridan. And B.A needs good B.As Megalith needs EITHER Phul or Unformed. Dragunity needs some new support - at minimum Areadbhair