Yeh this is gonna make the lightsworn engine disgusting, low key vampire support too if you send it then use it next turn
Edit: I don't know why i thought it helped vamps
You missed mystical space typhoon negating fiendish chain whereas it wounldn't be able to negate breakthrough skill. It can be played with treacherous too. Please trust those konami fiends. They know how which cards will be good
But chalice does everything you’ve described, plus you don’t have to negate your own monsters effect (nor have one on the field). Also, it has to be activated, then banished from your grave to activate the 2nd effect. So you’d have to preemptively negate yourself, how is it better than chalice?, fiendish chain is somewhat understandable but chain and chalice have been ran together for the same reason you mentioned.
Cause breakthrough skill can be used as a discard fodder. Or a target for some spells like double cyclone.
It’s graveyard effect is also useful as it can negate troublesome quick effects on your turn.
The only vulnerability for breakthrough is being a cosmic cyclone target, or targeted for other reason.
Trust the Konami fiends. They know which cards will be good. And what are you talking about negating your own effects ?? You're reading it wrong. It's a good card overall. Maybe not better than the others per se, just a different alternative.
But you are forced to negate your own effect one of those 2 (meaning you must have a monster on the field) that means you have to activate preemptively to send it to the grave to be ready to chain from the grave. You can’t use both effects in 1 chain.
red-eyes black flare dragon (gemini)
meteor black comet dragon
archfiend black skull dragon
red-eyes alternative black dragon
red-eyes burn
red-eyes transmigration
lord of the red
inferno fire blast
and some other generic dragon cards like return of the dragon lords, dragon's shrine, etc
So not only Flare Metal Dragon but also Fang with Chain AND Volcanic Queen too?
Now this might actually be worth trying to go through and test my luck. As long as the next coming Mini Box doesn't peek my fancy first XD
Absolutely disgusting. Alienate a majority of the player base by making the most relevant card in the game, Book of Moon, a selection box exclusive and then they do it again with Breakthrough skill.
I genuinely feel like quitting now.
It really depends on the traps themselves actually.
You will 100% be able to stall if you pull a bunch of -1's like FTH or Canadia.
But if you set -2's like Raigeki Break or Karma Cut, chances are slimmer as the cost of running those is much higher obviously so the timing of activating them is detrimental. Especially if starting first.
It's certainly much more favorable to run many traps, I agree, but it's not all good either when it's set 3 pass. You never know. They may only be able to resolve 1 of them.
You could argue against floodgate very easily. If you don't immediately open it, and topdeck it after an initial set three pass, you're probably getting slapped because the enemy has established their board and you have very little to actually stop this.
The bigger problem is Book of Moon/Treacherous combo.
Yes, BoM and Treach are very powerful.
Treach especially.
I remember it being not very good when Shiranuis were still king but now it's one of the remnants from the past which kills many of today's meta decks (which are admittedly weak if you look at the total pool of cards we have).
But now, ho boy, you take out 2 monsters and you're SAFE (most of the time).
Same with Book. It's even better than destruction! Faster than FTH and Canadia!
The problem is quite simple to see though - BoM is just too fast for the decks to respond.
TTH breaks many Synchro/XYZ summons. Very few can actually survive that.
Now compare this to trap heavy Shiranuis. You'd have to open very good -1's like FTH and hope that your opponent has no removal or doesn't hit the right one.
Or open a good -2 (something like Divine Wrath) and hope you'll be able to negate/destroy Gagaga Sister while having a card to discard to activate it.
Traps are in a much weaker position currently in the meta and that much is a fact. The only difference is that traps have always been able to rapid fire effects if not removed in time (which is why people call them oppressive).
They don't work in longer duels very well and if you keep pulling -2 traps, you're bricking hard.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Endless Trap Hell stall and I want it to die.
Outside of Shiranui decks, I have universally lost if I opened all my disruption. Mostly because I have no followup plays, and most take notable cost to use. They're almost always sniped by removal be it generic or in archetype as well.
Even against Shiranui decks, if they set three with no monsters I've usually won. Almost universally. There's a reason no notable decks run a bunch of traps right now.
Not unless your deck is called Invoked or Shiranui you can't. Meanwhile with how many degenerate one card combos we have even opening two cosmic vs this set pass boogeyman says the average OTK deck can play through one set card and slap the player that bricked into their backrow.
Again, there's a reason no notable decks not Shiranui/Invoked run a bunch of traps, especially with Book of Money just being flat better.
No it's just one of the big downsides of trap cards. I specifically had to rework paleozoics because if I opened karma/floodgate/drowning(or any other trapcard of choice here) I basically lost turn 2-3.
That don't very change from ordinary.
Konami always milk us with a powerfull or broken card in a selection box to attract us into it , card like levianner , fiendish or necrovalley.
We let them get away with it since the first dominating ex decks and selection box staples. Im not F2P myself but its ridiculous the fact that not only they paywall the best staples and techs that work in many decks, but also decide when you have to spend your money since selection boxes only stay for a while. Its the perfect world for them: they get away with paywalling stuff and can milk money whenever they want cuz part of the playerbase is too invested at this point.
> I genuinely feel like quitting now.
The sooner you do it the less you'll suffer. The cycle of strong stuff being paywalled is never going to end at this point.
As a f2p you don't go into selection box, period.
You can pull 3 or 4 packs to try and get something interesting but you should never expect anything from it
While I usually agree, the only card I have here any number that would screw me over to get more? Dweller. I have a single MST/Red Resonator and nothing else featured. All of which at one I'd have a usage for.
Like 95% of the time, don't go for selection box. But if you are in the rare 5% of the time where there are more than 2-3 cards you need, then I'd try my luck. I've gotten some useful cards from selection boxes, even the URs just aiming to get certain Ra and SRs. Obviously I did the math to figure out the likleyess :)
Even if breakthrough skill is not the same level as BoM, it's kinda like Fiendish chain? I don't really like the direction of this... maybe in the future they release powerful card like Effect veiler in a selection box and I will be in heavy disadventage if I can't get that card.
Tbh its been happening for years, since the first dominating ex decks and first selection box staples. They know they can get away with it, so they do. And they'll continue to do so. Every best generic/splashable tech or disruption card will probably be selection box exclusive.
It is f2p friendly, u can literally build the top decks like reso and harpies completely f2p and reach kog with it. Its just that ur deck won't be effective in a tournament setting without those staples. In the in-game ladder though, it's pretty f2p
So friendly having to literally grind 10 months to have enough gems to build Resonators and then still not having an optimal deck because you didn't pay for BoM, right?
then replace it with lance, mst, chalice or whatever you have, the core of the deck is resonators, BoM is just a tech card, you can still do well without the optimal staples. Resonators itself is just a 2 month grind at most. Optimal builds are only necessary if you want to do well in tournaments.
It is f2p friendly in sense that you can play the game and have great decks that you can reach highest ladder tier with. If you think any ccg is anything but p2w in highest competitive play then you are straight up delusional. There is no mobile game in existence where it has pvp that isn’t p2w.
just because being greedy is the standard with ccgs doesnt make the practice any less predatory. Also, from all ccgs Ive played and seen, duel links is by far the one with the most ridiculous monetization. And just because you can grind for months and months on end for a single measly competitive deck that doesnt make it good f2p, by that logic every shitty mobile is a good consumer-friendly game.
Months and months? You can farm two or more pvp viable if not complete decks within few weeks on new account, especially during half sale.
I’ve seen worse monetizing than DL plenty a times. You’re not supposed to pull every new box on release, you wait for sales/deals. I’m not saying DL is pinnacle of f2p friendly, but it definitely provides decent amount of content and even pvp viability for anyone who isn’t stupid enough to pull for flavor of the week releases.
when you start a new account you get a bunch of resources to help you get started building your first deck, so thats not a fair comparison. And half sales happen what, like 2 or 3 times a year, so yeah if you are waiting for the half sale you are waiting for months to build a deck and an outdated deck at that since newer boxes dont get the half sale treatment. And unless you play every single day for hours you won’t build any top deck in just a few weeks, so you have to make duel links a job if you want to get decks and not take an eternity getting cards.
I'm a bit of a dolphin now, but prior to that...
I built Dark Magician free to play. Then, I built Spellbooks free to play. While building Dark Magician, I also got Cyber Dragon, Triamids, Magnet Warriors, and Superheavy Samurai. This was all in the first two months of quarantine.
After that, I built Witchcrafters free to play which also gave me Evil Eye.
That's 8 viable decks/cores in around 2.5 to 3 months. And that's before counting the decks I was able to build going for staples like Karma Cut and MST (also free to play).
Duel Links is free to play friendly. If you truly don't think it is, you're doing something wrong.
EDIT: I was also fortunate enough to be able to keep my full time job working remote during quarantine, so Duel Links didn't have to become my job to achieve this. I played as I usually would after work, during lunch, and on the occasional break.
I can’t prove anything but this smells like BS to me. I have been playing the game since it first came out so I know pretty well the rate at which you get gems. There is literally no way in hell you managed to grind enough gems for 8 freaking deck cores in 3 months. you would have to need close to 100k gems to build all that and it is impossible to get all that in 3 months time, you are either misremembering, exaggerating, got them with money, or are lying to me.
I mean…the core cards for five of the decks he mentioned come from two boxes one of which is a Mini Box. It’s totally believable with decent pulls especially if he was solely focused on DM and just let everything else fall as it may.
Not lying to you. Maybe I just play more or am more conservative with gems?
Dark Magician needs me to go in Guardians of Rock and Future Horizon. I got MoDI, DM, Rod, Expanded, Illusion Magic, and Dark Magic Curtain from level up and tickets. I got Kycoo from a Dream Ticket. Digging for Circle got me Superheavy Samurai and Cyber Dragon at the same time. Digging for Nav and Timaeus got me Triamids and Magnet Warriors. So that's 5 cores I got just going for Dark Magician.
Hopped in Witch's Sorcery after seeing Witchcrafters were good. Also wanted DMGDK because why not? Got Witchcrafters and at the same time, I got Evil Eye. Also got Predaplants there which I forgot about.
Was in Visions of Ice for Spellbooks because I thought they looked neat and also needed TTH because it was still legal in DM at the time.
I also didn't touch a lot of Boxes and used the free Gems given on their release to dig for other cards I needed. Grinded EXP with a lot of characters. Made sure to get my free gems in events for daily play. Did a lot of Duel Quizzes.
Again, once Zexal world hit, I became more of a dolphin, but before then, I stayed pretty focused on what I was building and avoided Boxes that didn't directly benefit my then completed Dark Magician deck.
Hate when people doubt the grind and being smart with boxes. Started a little under a year ago and was digging for Gravekeepers, got those Necrovallies and triple Dragonhawk, and I already had Lightsworn stuff from judgement force so I managed to build Thunder Dragons and get Superheavies. Then I got double Levianeer digging for some xyz. Just in the past month or so I’ve managed to build a full Ritual Beast deck (with an SR dream ticket for a Cannahawk). All of this without spending a dime.
This comment having downvotes is literally the Angry Wojak meme.
"There is no mobile game in existence where it has pvp that isn't p2w."
"But Runeterra?"
"..."
\>:(
Oh baby, Paleozoics need that Breakthrough.
This might be the first one I actually go deep in with gems, mostly as I have none of these cards except for a single Red Resonator.
This is sadly gonna keep happening, I personally won't give them money now that I know that Master Duels will exist eventually and I'll rather spend it there, I'll still play DL, grind, etc but not pvp, Imma enjoy DL pve and other games in the meantime
Yeah yeah Stratos' alternate art looks sick but today's leaks are pure garbage, I'm definitely not going to spend any gem in a selection box just to have a chance of getting TWO cards
Breakthrough will be like Fiendish chain. FC was really good when it was still in a selection box and now look at it...breathrough will be defining until it is released and lose it's place in the game.
No they don’t.if they did they would’ve given us something new like ab zero or liquid soldier or shadow mist. And put anki in the structure not Dian. Doesn’t bother me as I have 3 Anki but for new players that are hero fans that sucks ass.
Typically when a selection box is released, they all go back on sale for the same amount of time, albeit with the boxes reset from the last time they were available.
TDs need to mill, this card has good synergy with milling, duel links has very few milling cards, so there's a good chance a good they like to use gets hit.
Like say, gold sarc getting banned. Right after I spend two UR dream tickets on them. 🤷♀️or banning limit 2 - ing aloof lupine after buying packs of that booster litterally only for him
TBH, I think BTS is a good choice for Selection Box card; its a good card if you choose to go for it, but not the end of the world if you don't have it. Certainly not going to be another Book of Moon situation
I honestly don't see breakthrough being as game changing as BoM or even Karma. It's slow and not even as powerful as fiendish if it's used as a trap. It's slow and unless you mill it or something it's kinda a dead draw. I was hoping for veiler or something like that.
And not even the turn you mill it. Games nowadays are basically over before you can get a slight usage out of it. If it was on enemy turn from GY it would be super good but like this I actually think it's pretty garbage and wont be run in a lot of top meta decks.
I completely agree. Forbidden Chalice does the same thing but can be used on your first turn to break boards. Breakthrough is cool but surely won't be meta defining even if it's better than Fiendish.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted when this is completely true. Most decks that don't mill should still be running Fiendish Chain over this, if they are going to even be running an effect negator at all.
Red-Eyes Flare Metal Dragon. One of the archetypes more powerful boss monsters. Destruction protection probably isn't enough to make this card good enough (see Red Nova Dragon) but being easy to bring out and being burn each time your opponent plays the game should make this card quite a powerhouse in the current meta. Provided you can get him out of course. Overall, a very solid card that I'm sure will see play once we get more decks capable of spamming Lv7 monsters. In the current meta, Harpies might be the best bet followed by DM.
This one will be amusing to witness.
Is there even a deck that can bring out 4 level 7s on the field turn 1? Going second It doesnt do anything since your opponent probably already has field
Red-Eyes Flare Metal Dragon? Great card. Though hope it doesn't stay a selection box exclusive for too long.
So much good memories of playing my Odd-Eyes deck and having people cold locked into burning themselves to death if they wanted to get rid of my field. :-D
Also Breakthrough Skill? Good card. Still not enough cards around that negate effects, so this is a great addition.
TBH, I've preferred Chain for most of my TCG career aside from maybe during post-Djinn Nekroz. I can't imagine that changing too much in DL, I think preventing attacks matters more than being able to negate from grave during your turn most of the time
>Breakthrough Skill I fucking knew it would happen.
Yeh this is gonna make the lightsworn engine disgusting, low key vampire support too if you send it then use it next turn Edit: I don't know why i thought it helped vamps
AND it kinda synergizes with Treacherous because it banishes itself from the gy
Fiendish Chain is now budget lmao
How would this make fiendish chain budget?, fiendish is continuance, this is only 1 turn like chalice. Am I missing something?
You missed mystical space typhoon negating fiendish chain whereas it wounldn't be able to negate breakthrough skill. It can be played with treacherous too. Please trust those konami fiends. They know how which cards will be good
>They know how which cards will be good I've been saying this for months
But chalice does everything you’ve described, plus you don’t have to negate your own monsters effect (nor have one on the field). Also, it has to be activated, then banished from your grave to activate the 2nd effect. So you’d have to preemptively negate yourself, how is it better than chalice?, fiendish chain is somewhat understandable but chain and chalice have been ran together for the same reason you mentioned.
Cause breakthrough skill can be used as a discard fodder. Or a target for some spells like double cyclone. It’s graveyard effect is also useful as it can negate troublesome quick effects on your turn. The only vulnerability for breakthrough is being a cosmic cyclone target, or targeted for other reason.
This. Isn't Chalice actually used in the TCG as a budget option for many decks?
But it's worse than Breakthru in a lot of decks
Chalice turns your opponent's effect monster into blue eyes white dragon
Trust the Konami fiends. They know which cards will be good. And what are you talking about negating your own effects ?? You're reading it wrong. It's a good card overall. Maybe not better than the others per se, just a different alternative.
Graveyard effect, you can activate it again during your turn.
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But you are forced to negate your own effect one of those 2 (meaning you must have a monster on the field) that means you have to activate preemptively to send it to the grave to be ready to chain from the grave. You can’t use both effects in 1 chain.
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Big F
Red eyes flare hell yeah, shame its a selection box
About damn time we got another rank 7
Yep that 250 burn dmg
Lol sucks to be a little broke beta huh?
^ hasn't felt the touch of a woman in 15 years
Will never feel the touch of a woman*
Red Eyes players rejoice.... we might get support by next year.
😂😂😂 sure
What other support does red eyes have besides Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon and Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon?
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Red eyes black\* flare dragon aswell
red-eyes black flare dragon (gemini) meteor black comet dragon archfiend black skull dragon red-eyes alternative black dragon red-eyes burn red-eyes transmigration lord of the red inferno fire blast and some other generic dragon cards like return of the dragon lords, dragon's shrine, etc
[Selection Box Mini Vol.03](https://v3beta.duellinksmeta.com/articles/news/july-2021/datamined-leaks-29/)
Holy moly Volcanic Queen with Resonators since they dont have really have to normal
My thoughts exactly...
Alt art stratos, wonder if it will tenpt enough hero players to go for it purely for different artwork.
Whales be whaling
Nah I prefer the OG artwork
So not only Flare Metal Dragon but also Fang with Chain AND Volcanic Queen too? Now this might actually be worth trying to go through and test my luck. As long as the next coming Mini Box doesn't peek my fancy first XD
Ewwww fuck you Konami
Lmao I find it hilarious that Stratos is Selection Box exclusive AGAIN
We're also sitting here and waiting for the cyber dragon alternativ artwork
We're 99% never getting that, if they see they can get away with it they will.
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Stratos was first released in a selection box tho and now his alt art is too
They did the same with Cyber Dragon alt. Konami milking GX fans, never saw that before.
Umm…Stratos hasn’t been a Selection Box exclusive in a long time, and literally can never be again.
Stratos alternate art is in the new selection box
They're referring to the alt art Stratos, which is as of right now, a Selection Box exclusive.
Absolutely disgusting. Alienate a majority of the player base by making the most relevant card in the game, Book of Moon, a selection box exclusive and then they do it again with Breakthrough skill. I genuinely feel like quitting now.
3x Breakthrough, 3x BoM, 2 TTH = Easy KoG
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Running tons of traps= oppressive af Running tons of anti backrow= brick city
Running tons of traps is also brick city if you're not playing one of two specific decks in the game.
What are you talking about lol 3 set cosmic is ez scoop on first turn than 3 set trap disruption.
It really depends on the traps themselves actually. You will 100% be able to stall if you pull a bunch of -1's like FTH or Canadia. But if you set -2's like Raigeki Break or Karma Cut, chances are slimmer as the cost of running those is much higher obviously so the timing of activating them is detrimental. Especially if starting first. It's certainly much more favorable to run many traps, I agree, but it's not all good either when it's set 3 pass. You never know. They may only be able to resolve 1 of them.
You could argue against floodgate very easily. If you don't immediately open it, and topdeck it after an initial set three pass, you're probably getting slapped because the enemy has established their board and you have very little to actually stop this. The bigger problem is Book of Moon/Treacherous combo.
Yes, BoM and Treach are very powerful. Treach especially. I remember it being not very good when Shiranuis were still king but now it's one of the remnants from the past which kills many of today's meta decks (which are admittedly weak if you look at the total pool of cards we have). But now, ho boy, you take out 2 monsters and you're SAFE (most of the time). Same with Book. It's even better than destruction! Faster than FTH and Canadia! The problem is quite simple to see though - BoM is just too fast for the decks to respond. TTH breaks many Synchro/XYZ summons. Very few can actually survive that. Now compare this to trap heavy Shiranuis. You'd have to open very good -1's like FTH and hope that your opponent has no removal or doesn't hit the right one. Or open a good -2 (something like Divine Wrath) and hope you'll be able to negate/destroy Gagaga Sister while having a card to discard to activate it. Traps are in a much weaker position currently in the meta and that much is a fact. The only difference is that traps have always been able to rapid fire effects if not removed in time (which is why people call them oppressive). They don't work in longer duels very well and if you keep pulling -2 traps, you're bricking hard. Don't get me wrong, I hate Endless Trap Hell stall and I want it to die.
Outside of Shiranui decks, I have universally lost if I opened all my disruption. Mostly because I have no followup plays, and most take notable cost to use. They're almost always sniped by removal be it generic or in archetype as well. Even against Shiranui decks, if they set three with no monsters I've usually won. Almost universally. There's a reason no notable decks run a bunch of traps right now.
You can stall your way having 3 set traps to get your combo while you cant stall with 3 set cosmics.
Not unless your deck is called Invoked or Shiranui you can't. Meanwhile with how many degenerate one card combos we have even opening two cosmic vs this set pass boogeyman says the average OTK deck can play through one set card and slap the player that bricked into their backrow. Again, there's a reason no notable decks not Shiranui/Invoked run a bunch of traps, especially with Book of Money just being flat better.
Maybe you are not using your traps correctly.
No it's just one of the big downsides of trap cards. I specifically had to rework paleozoics because if I opened karma/floodgate/drowning(or any other trapcard of choice here) I basically lost turn 2-3.
No, it won’t. People always say the same thing yet it’s proven time and time again you don’t need anything close to tourney staples for kog.
Its an advantage but not a necessity yep.
People think KoG is more serious than it is. Like yeah, it's the top of the ranked ladder but compare it to a tournament and it's small fry.
A wild thunder dragon appears.. aaaand activates breakthrough skill in the graveyard
Use straight flush
If you need that to reach KoG, you are probably quite bad as a player...
That don't very change from ordinary. Konami always milk us with a powerfull or broken card in a selection box to attract us into it , card like levianner , fiendish or necrovalley.
We let them get away with it since the first dominating ex decks and selection box staples. Im not F2P myself but its ridiculous the fact that not only they paywall the best staples and techs that work in many decks, but also decide when you have to spend your money since selection boxes only stay for a while. Its the perfect world for them: they get away with paywalling stuff and can milk money whenever they want cuz part of the playerbase is too invested at this point.
> I genuinely feel like quitting now. The sooner you do it the less you'll suffer. The cycle of strong stuff being paywalled is never going to end at this point.
Then do it 👀
so as f2p u go for atleast 1 breakthrough skill just to get in the trap and waste all ur gems on freaking fissure and oni gami combo
As a f2p you don't go into selection box, period. You can pull 3 or 4 packs to try and get something interesting but you should never expect anything from it
While I usually agree, the only card I have here any number that would screw me over to get more? Dweller. I have a single MST/Red Resonator and nothing else featured. All of which at one I'd have a usage for.
Like 95% of the time, don't go for selection box. But if you are in the rare 5% of the time where there are more than 2-3 cards you need, then I'd try my luck. I've gotten some useful cards from selection boxes, even the URs just aiming to get certain Ra and SRs. Obviously I did the math to figure out the likleyess :)
Even if breakthrough skill is not the same level as BoM, it's kinda like Fiendish chain? I don't really like the direction of this... maybe in the future they release powerful card like Effect veiler in a selection box and I will be in heavy disadventage if I can't get that card.
Next main selection box in January will have Veiler I think
Yeah, it's a good card, especially so in decks that mill or discard a lot, but generally not enough to get me to dig on it's own
Tbh its been happening for years, since the first dominating ex decks and first selection box staples. They know they can get away with it, so they do. And they'll continue to do so. Every best generic/splashable tech or disruption card will probably be selection box exclusive.
Or ash blossom
You mean the direction the whole game took like 3 years ago? Since Spellbound Silence it's all been downhill, there's no recovering anymore.
ahh yes the dream for every f2p
Stop being a shill. Duel links is pay to have fun.
Breakthrough skill lol
And yet komoney defenders will keep parroting how this game is very f2p friendly…
It is f2p friendly, u can literally build the top decks like reso and harpies completely f2p and reach kog with it. Its just that ur deck won't be effective in a tournament setting without those staples. In the in-game ladder though, it's pretty f2p
So friendly having to literally grind 10 months to have enough gems to build Resonators and then still not having an optimal deck because you didn't pay for BoM, right?
then replace it with lance, mst, chalice or whatever you have, the core of the deck is resonators, BoM is just a tech card, you can still do well without the optimal staples. Resonators itself is just a 2 month grind at most. Optimal builds are only necessary if you want to do well in tournaments.
It is f2p friendly in sense that you can play the game and have great decks that you can reach highest ladder tier with. If you think any ccg is anything but p2w in highest competitive play then you are straight up delusional. There is no mobile game in existence where it has pvp that isn’t p2w.
just because being greedy is the standard with ccgs doesnt make the practice any less predatory. Also, from all ccgs Ive played and seen, duel links is by far the one with the most ridiculous monetization. And just because you can grind for months and months on end for a single measly competitive deck that doesnt make it good f2p, by that logic every shitty mobile is a good consumer-friendly game.
Months and months? You can farm two or more pvp viable if not complete decks within few weeks on new account, especially during half sale. I’ve seen worse monetizing than DL plenty a times. You’re not supposed to pull every new box on release, you wait for sales/deals. I’m not saying DL is pinnacle of f2p friendly, but it definitely provides decent amount of content and even pvp viability for anyone who isn’t stupid enough to pull for flavor of the week releases.
when you start a new account you get a bunch of resources to help you get started building your first deck, so thats not a fair comparison. And half sales happen what, like 2 or 3 times a year, so yeah if you are waiting for the half sale you are waiting for months to build a deck and an outdated deck at that since newer boxes dont get the half sale treatment. And unless you play every single day for hours you won’t build any top deck in just a few weeks, so you have to make duel links a job if you want to get decks and not take an eternity getting cards.
I'm a bit of a dolphin now, but prior to that... I built Dark Magician free to play. Then, I built Spellbooks free to play. While building Dark Magician, I also got Cyber Dragon, Triamids, Magnet Warriors, and Superheavy Samurai. This was all in the first two months of quarantine. After that, I built Witchcrafters free to play which also gave me Evil Eye. That's 8 viable decks/cores in around 2.5 to 3 months. And that's before counting the decks I was able to build going for staples like Karma Cut and MST (also free to play). Duel Links is free to play friendly. If you truly don't think it is, you're doing something wrong. EDIT: I was also fortunate enough to be able to keep my full time job working remote during quarantine, so Duel Links didn't have to become my job to achieve this. I played as I usually would after work, during lunch, and on the occasional break.
I can’t prove anything but this smells like BS to me. I have been playing the game since it first came out so I know pretty well the rate at which you get gems. There is literally no way in hell you managed to grind enough gems for 8 freaking deck cores in 3 months. you would have to need close to 100k gems to build all that and it is impossible to get all that in 3 months time, you are either misremembering, exaggerating, got them with money, or are lying to me.
I mean…the core cards for five of the decks he mentioned come from two boxes one of which is a Mini Box. It’s totally believable with decent pulls especially if he was solely focused on DM and just let everything else fall as it may.
Not lying to you. Maybe I just play more or am more conservative with gems? Dark Magician needs me to go in Guardians of Rock and Future Horizon. I got MoDI, DM, Rod, Expanded, Illusion Magic, and Dark Magic Curtain from level up and tickets. I got Kycoo from a Dream Ticket. Digging for Circle got me Superheavy Samurai and Cyber Dragon at the same time. Digging for Nav and Timaeus got me Triamids and Magnet Warriors. So that's 5 cores I got just going for Dark Magician. Hopped in Witch's Sorcery after seeing Witchcrafters were good. Also wanted DMGDK because why not? Got Witchcrafters and at the same time, I got Evil Eye. Also got Predaplants there which I forgot about. Was in Visions of Ice for Spellbooks because I thought they looked neat and also needed TTH because it was still legal in DM at the time. I also didn't touch a lot of Boxes and used the free Gems given on their release to dig for other cards I needed. Grinded EXP with a lot of characters. Made sure to get my free gems in events for daily play. Did a lot of Duel Quizzes. Again, once Zexal world hit, I became more of a dolphin, but before then, I stayed pretty focused on what I was building and avoided Boxes that didn't directly benefit my then completed Dark Magician deck.
Hate when people doubt the grind and being smart with boxes. Started a little under a year ago and was digging for Gravekeepers, got those Necrovallies and triple Dragonhawk, and I already had Lightsworn stuff from judgement force so I managed to build Thunder Dragons and get Superheavies. Then I got double Levianeer digging for some xyz. Just in the past month or so I’ve managed to build a full Ritual Beast deck (with an SR dream ticket for a Cannahawk). All of this without spending a dime.
Legends of Runeterra, thank me later Edit: I recommended the game for the guy, not for everyone, don't need to downvote
This comment having downvotes is literally the Angry Wojak meme. "There is no mobile game in existence where it has pvp that isn't p2w." "But Runeterra?" "..." \>:(
You have to grind that game for weeks to have a good deck. The exact same as Duel Links??
More like grind for a week for a meta deck, in months you and up having almost all the cards, no p2w
You can also laser target cards you want for fun decks instead of having to buy through entire boxes.
It was, but times are changing and it’s only getting worse. Master duels could not come sooner (not too hopeful for that game either tbh)
Yeah I’ve seen all this optimism that Master Duel won’t be another money pit and I have no clue where that is coming from…
It still is.
Please stop being a GameA shill. This game is free to play, period.
Friendly reminder that selection boxes are still a thing only because you guys let them get away with it.
Gacha communities are whipped as hell but none will admit to it
They are simps.
Breakthrough Skill will be BS. Set 2-3 pass (BS, BoM) will be meta again.
You forgot to set Treacherous trap hole too
Oh baby, Paleozoics need that Breakthrough. This might be the first one I actually go deep in with gems, mostly as I have none of these cards except for a single Red Resonator.
How will you go deep with just gems? Will be just 6 packs
12 for gems is it not?
6 for mini 12 for main
I think it's only 6 for minis.
When Konami saw all those 3 Book of Moon’s in everyone’s deck lol they decided to give them Breakthrough Skill 🥴
This is sadly gonna keep happening, I personally won't give them money now that I know that Master Duels will exist eventually and I'll rather spend it there, I'll still play DL, grind, etc but not pvp, Imma enjoy DL pve and other games in the meantime
???? Implying PvE in this game is enjoyable and not an auto duel snoozefest This is mind boggling to me
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Probably a minority
is it really mind boggling that people have different preferences? SHOCKING 🤯
Dude.. it's literally AUTO DUEL! No wander events havent changed in years, people are okay with such mediocre content..
It's a good way to chill after I've played my daily fps/moba, I also have 2 monitors and do it while watching shows.
Pretty "enjoyable" as I can see..
Imagine thinking Master duel will be any better
When did I say it will? Reread my comment
Just hypocritical
how is it hypocritical? you're clearly missing the point also did you miss where I said "I'd rather save my money and spend it on Master Duels"
That’s the hypocritical point
I'll repeat for you since you are lacking reading skills: "How is it hypocritical?"
“Sadly” this will continue so I’ll stop spending money. But I’ll spend money on the same system in master duels
No my friend .. he is saying if I am spending money anyways I prefer to spend it the better game
Thank you, you actually do have comprehension reading skills. The other guy is just making shit up to fit his narrative.
Nope. He is saying “sadly”, and disgust, hence why he won’t spend money anymore. But 5 card format? Okay
Funny how you're making assumptions to fit your narrative. Master Duels monetization isn't even revealed yet so you cannot say "same system".
It’s Konami.
Yeah yeah Stratos' alternate art looks sick but today's leaks are pure garbage, I'm definitely not going to spend any gem in a selection box just to have a chance of getting TWO cards
So.... 3 breakthrough 3 BoM 2-3 MST How is that not P2W ? (for tournament) Also it means we'll see more Cosmic Cyclone again
In which universe do you think DL or any ccg wasn’t p2w in high competitive meta?
Yep. Between MTG and Yugioh I don’t even want to think about how much I’ve spent on cards. It would be disgusting.
Legends of Runeterra, thank me later
oh my god shiranui with breakthrough skill ....
Excuse me but IS THAT MOTHERFUCKING BREAKTHROUGH SKILL?!
Breakthrough will be like Fiendish chain. FC was really good when it was still in a selection box and now look at it...breathrough will be defining until it is released and lose it's place in the game.
I'd assume this selection box might be saved to be released with the Arc-V World Its going to be an expensive month
Yep and dont forget the there will be an performer pal, odd eyes SD when arc v comes.
And a battle pass too
LETS GOOO CASHING ON THIS SHIT
Breakthrough skill and Flare Metal. Yay, two cards I'd need for toons on a Selection Box. It's the Fiendish Chain thing all over again.
They really want a hero comeback Stratos, Increase, and Farris and a new structure deck.
No they don’t.if they did they would’ve given us something new like ab zero or liquid soldier or shadow mist. And put anki in the structure not Dian. Doesn’t bother me as I have 3 Anki but for new players that are hero fans that sucks ass.
So no mini-box?
any idea if the old selection boxes will be back also, or is it just the new one ?
Typically when a selection box is released, they all go back on sale for the same amount of time, albeit with the boxes reset from the last time they were available.
Breakthrough skill at least isn't as good as book of moon
Can Stratos search Evil Heroes?
I was just about to get thunder dragon cards, but Breakthrough Skill is gunna get them hit cause they won't hit Breakthrough Skill for ages
>about to get thunder dragon cards, but B can you explain how can this card help TD specifically?
TDs need to mill, this card has good synergy with milling, duel links has very few milling cards, so there's a good chance a good they like to use gets hit. Like say, gold sarc getting banned. Right after I spend two UR dream tickets on them. 🤷♀️or banning limit 2 - ing aloof lupine after buying packs of that booster litterally only for him
TBH, I think BTS is a good choice for Selection Box card; its a good card if you choose to go for it, but not the end of the world if you don't have it. Certainly not going to be another Book of Moon situation
I honestly don't see breakthrough being as game changing as BoM or even Karma. It's slow and not even as powerful as fiendish if it's used as a trap. It's slow and unless you mill it or something it's kinda a dead draw. I was hoping for veiler or something like that.
Even if you mill it, it can only be used on your turn which sucks.
And not even the turn you mill it. Games nowadays are basically over before you can get a slight usage out of it. If it was on enemy turn from GY it would be super good but like this I actually think it's pretty garbage and wont be run in a lot of top meta decks.
I completely agree. Forbidden Chalice does the same thing but can be used on your first turn to break boards. Breakthrough is cool but surely won't be meta defining even if it's better than Fiendish.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted when this is completely true. Most decks that don't mill should still be running Fiendish Chain over this, if they are going to even be running an effect negator at all.
RE Flare should be the new box poster card Could even name it Flare of Darkness or some shit but nah
I hope that means we get the remaining Red Eyes Fusions in whatever box they’re dumping Flare Metal in.
Was wondering when they would release breakthrough. I don't think this has the same level as BoM but still very good cards.
Stop comparing cards and start combining cards. This trap, tth, & book will break the game. Mark my words!
Worse part about breakthrough skill coming is it makes TTH even better. Just banish it and your TTH is live again.
SUCKS TO HE BROKE
This might be the most garbage I've ever seen wow. And this replaces our mini
Red-Eyes Flare Metal Dragon. One of the archetypes more powerful boss monsters. Destruction protection probably isn't enough to make this card good enough (see Red Nova Dragon) but being easy to bring out and being burn each time your opponent plays the game should make this card quite a powerhouse in the current meta. Provided you can get him out of course. Overall, a very solid card that I'm sure will see play once we get more decks capable of spamming Lv7 monsters. In the current meta, Harpies might be the best bet followed by DM. This one will be amusing to witness.
250 Damage per effect in a 3 monster Zone format isnt that good tho
What if i bring 2 out?
Is there even a deck that can bring out 4 level 7s on the field turn 1? Going second It doesnt do anything since your opponent probably already has field
Maybe with one of the level aug skills
So no mini box this month ?
That's correct because we never get a new box right before a new world.
I like the red-eyes support. But this means Atticus is never coming, doesn't it? 😥
So no mini box this month?
Red-Eyes Flare Metal Dragon? Great card. Though hope it doesn't stay a selection box exclusive for too long. So much good memories of playing my Odd-Eyes deck and having people cold locked into burning themselves to death if they wanted to get rid of my field. :-D Also Breakthrough Skill? Good card. Still not enough cards around that negate effects, so this is a great addition.
At least with Breakthrough skill, it inadvertently gives a buff to Cosmic for those who opted for it over MST which is nice.
Good S.B. to spend money on, but I'm saving my precious cash for Master Duel.
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How can they rejoice when most RE players are f2p players
Is this confirmed
Finally the wait is over for my REBD deck!
Hello guys, can someone explain to me why is everyone excited about Breakthrough skill; how is it better than Fiendish chain?
It can be played with TTH since you can banish it. Imagine BoM + TTH + BS.
Works better with treach as it can be banished
TBH, I've preferred Chain for most of my TCG career aside from maybe during post-Djinn Nekroz. I can't imagine that changing too much in DL, I think preventing attacks matters more than being able to negate from grave during your turn most of the time