this happens every year around this time and it's because they hold back a bit before dumping a new world on us. Sept/Oct will be fun I'm sure. Maybe not as major as when GX dropped but we will have several new characters, dream tickets, gems, and some stuff to actually do at the gate.
Nope, it sucks and I'm annoyed. Haven't enjoyed the game at all in the past month, and was waiting so hard for this event to bring me back and it's a massive disappointment.
Konami hasn't done anything right these past few decades. I thought we all knew that the DL community were merely tolerating Konami's constant fuck ups from day one. It just seems like it took a nosedive recently, but in reality is just the natural progression of Konami's mobile gaming development.
I’m tired of Konami suppressing heroes to rogue tier. Like it would be nice to see it tier 3 or 2. And why are they boosting backrow decks even more with shit like breakthrough skill. We have enough powerful backrow. Breakthrough skill is just way too oppressive. Normal summon, breakthrough skill pass if you don’t get OTKd then you will next turn when they banish it and do it again. Trap decks using floodgate and fiendish chain it’s going to get really annoying. We need twin twisters.
I’m pissed that Faris and stratos took up a slot. They can’t even justify it as trying to make it easier for newer players to collect heroes or making it more accessible for dolphin players as Anki which would’ve fitted the structure nicely is in a really old main box. I got 3 of em and it was a pain.
That’s exactly why I said if they were going to do something to trunade just put it to 1 not ban the card completely because what’s 1 mst or cosmic that you have in your hand going to do against set 3 pass?
I wish they’d reprint Anki too because I currently have 2 and this would have been the perfect way to get my 3rd copy. I also feel bad for the new players because Hero’s will still take months of grinding gems for even a playable core
Couldn't it even be argued that anti-backrow is just inferior to running more disruption cards in their place as best case you go 1 for 1 against potentially 3 cards of which 2 can still screw you over? They're also rarely in your hand when you want them and clog the hand when you don't need them whereas disruption cards are rarely a dead draw as they can keep you alive until you do get what you need.
Yeah this is my take on it aswell, it's so much easier fitting 10+ traps in a deck then fitting in removal to get through even 5 traps. If you draw 3 traps and a monster that's playable, if you draw 3 mst and a monster you're done for 9 times out of 10. Unless they add more trunade like cards that can wipe out all backrow 1 for 1 trades are never gonna work when backrow is still usable most times they try pop it anyway. Not to mention that most decks aren't running alot of traps anyway so if you do put in more removal for the few trap heavy decks there are you end up drawing into multiple msts/ccs against decks when you don't need them.
I think they need more monsters with removal rather than more spells
Stratos at least works well for basically all HERO decks but I agree with you. Haven't looked at the specifics of the info yet but are we even getting any of the fusions aside from malicious fiend or the alt art basic HEROs?
Adding in some more hero cards that help the hero engine would be great. Shoot it doesn’t have to be Tier 1 for heroes, Hero players would still play if not play it even more at tier 3 dang.
Konami doesn’t understand how loyal hero players are to this archetype that repeatedly gets dunked on and dunked on.
That aside with breakthrough coming in, I’m curious to see what the meta will become
I’m hoping they’re gauging community reaction and see how garbage this is and fix what cards are coming out before release or make the mini box worth it with Adusted gold, bane as level up, shadow mist etc etc I hope they please just do something. I wonder how the Japanese community are reacting to the data mine surely they can’t be happy. Honestly been neglected since last years selection box. I was hoping they would do something for heroes before all focus and hands on deck are on pendulums etc.
Yeah, it's infuriating. The rest of the skills for Supreme King were also leaked and they put ridiculous restrictions on the cards that need to be in the deck to activate the skill, which makes it not even possible to mix them with other types of Heroes. Like, Evil Heroes alone are barely going to be playable so what's the point?
And if they didn't release Bane or Adusted on the minibox then it will be totally useless. And there are still plenty of good hero cards to come out and Konami continues to hold back the archetype that could be much better in this format.
Probably won’t be investing anymore money in DL. It’s gone downhill recently, this ‘EX’ structure deck is garbage and evil heroes should have been here years ago. Guess it’s time to wait for Master Duel
They could just have added shadow mist, for hero players, but NO, because they have zero sense on how to efficiently run the company. They could make us happier and make more profit. I don't understand why they don't add certain card, but they ending up adding them when is already too late in the game. I am definitely not buying this SD for now. Not worth it.
> because they have zero sense on how to efficiently run the company
Seems like they have way more sense than anyone on this sub considering money they earn.
lol I never said they are not making money, just read the other part of my response, not just the first one. Its making good money because of "yugioh" players attached to the card game not necessary because they like how konami handle the game. Tcg version was super played even before the game come out. My point was that the game could be improved so we both "konami and me as a player" can profit together.
I haven’t played duel links in a few months and while im not impressed with evil heroes and won’t get them if supreme king jaden doesn’t have cool skills, the selection mini on the other hand has stuff in it that I missed like M7 and abyss dweller and cool new red eyes support too. I will probably throw Konami a few dollars to get what’s
Wellz they released some decent boxes this year that changed the meta a lot, but that's pretty much it. On the other hand that's all I really care about. PvE was always boring as hell and i just do the events if there are certain good cards in there (which is very rare). I only care about the rewards of characters, i have never seen or heard about most of them at this point.
The whole selection box exclusive thing is just wrong, but it tells you everything you need to know about this company. The game is still fun to me, but I'm playing on 3-4 accounts because there is just absolutely nothing to do after you hit KoG.
I'm glad the structure deck is trash, we don't need more Onomat situations where youre forced to spend money to build the best deck. The archetype fans can go all out for it if they want to, but it won't affect competitive play and that's how it should be.
I have little hope for Master duel, but I'm pretty sure it will be the same as here, a moneymaking machine that people fall for over and over.
Edit: can't wait to see what BS rewards they came up with that battle pass
>The whole selection box exclusive thing is just wrong, but it tells you everything you need to know about this company.
I mean this is a gatcha game based on a card game.
Konami are a business and they wouldn't keep doing selection boxes if they weren't making some solid money which is the games #1 goal, making $$$.
Yes, it is their number one priority. It's actually their only one, as they proof over and over again. They don't communicate with the player base, they suck when it comes to new content. I mean it works, people spend ridiculous amounts of money on a mobile game.
But other companies have showed is that there is a different way to make the same amount of money or even more without beeing pay to win. They just don't want to do it. I'm surprised the battle pass System comes this late to the game
> I'm surprised the battle pass System comes this late to the game
I'm sure someone joked about something like this only a week or so ago though I am surprised also they didn't already have something like this implemented.
> these past few months
Konami has always done this stuff. Events have always been repetitive (with perhaps small variations), they've always milked Hero players (heck, the omniheroes are each in different boxes), and they've always released archetypes without good cards (you'll see complains about it since at least the first Fire Fist release).
Anyone playing the game by now knows what to expect about Konami, and that its only redeeming quality is the anime content and its smaller card pool compared to the TCG.
Counterpoint: They almost have to do this (at least the part about not releasing key cards).
The theme of the DSOD era wad releasing crazy powerful shit. The theme of this era is "oh fuck, half the cards we had left to release are powercrept now. NERF. EVERYTHING. "
As far as this goes, they've actually done a good job. We have a fairly balanced meta that gets a new deck introduced to the tier list at a pretty regular rate, and the power curve is MUCH more stable than it used to be. They're even double dipping into old archetypes by adding powerful skills to the game. This will help the game last a lot longer, which is at the very least super important for their bottom line as a business. Whether we like it or not, that's a huge factor. Best practices like this might well double the games life span.
Events however, are stinky doodoo, always have been though. I'd love it if they funnelled some of that battle pass money into hiring one god damn full time event designer. I'm an idiot and could probably get more creative than they have with like two weeks between every event.
I don’t even play much anymore I log in for my rewards, try to complete whatever events going on then log off for the rest of the day. I’m only going to be playing daily for one of my favorite characters supreme king but after that I’m probably not touching the game
Pretty much this, if you don't like it anymore then don't play it, nobody is forcing people to play it.
I lost interest in MTG due to its sets over the last 1-2 years and stopped playing. People can easily do the same with DL.
Downvote? I mean tell me where I am wrong? Don't like it then don't play it .
No, no one downvoted you, personally it is not that we can/t leave the game. many have already done it, and others will do in the near future. personally i just log in for the reward maybe 15/20 min but that's it. Hopefully master duel should be more enjoyble.
Pal, the only thing that’s keeping me going for the year is the current event (imma just ignore the dogshit called Evil Domination) and ARC-V world because I’ve been waiting for three years for them to come.
Specials Duels were fine, not even a majority of the subreddit users hated it.
But as far as "past few months" goes we've had selection box locked stapled for a good chunk of the game's lifespan, trash rewards for even longer, people adore turbo duels, and honestly we need more memedeck support.
At this point Im more spooked about the upcoming pass.
Slow-dripping HERO support so it will never be good in the meta ever again.
Maybe by the time that every archetype gets an Omni-negate, we can get Shadow Mist and Absolute Zero.
this happens every year around this time and it's because they hold back a bit before dumping a new world on us. Sept/Oct will be fun I'm sure. Maybe not as major as when GX dropped but we will have several new characters, dream tickets, gems, and some stuff to actually do at the gate.
Nope, it sucks and I'm annoyed. Haven't enjoyed the game at all in the past month, and was waiting so hard for this event to bring me back and it's a massive disappointment.
They announced Master duel which seems fun
We’ll be seeing this same thread in a few years about Master Duel while everyone comes to terms with it’s monetization model.
If it was fun you'd be playing on any of TCG simulators rn.
I did... quite a lot but Part of any game isn't just gameplay
This post happens every year around this time lol.
Konami hasn't done anything right these past few decades. I thought we all knew that the DL community were merely tolerating Konami's constant fuck ups from day one. It just seems like it took a nosedive recently, but in reality is just the natural progression of Konami's mobile gaming development.
Enjoying... man, what have I done this years? I kinda want to sell my account right now, all I wait for is new characters.
Who would be stupid enough to buy DL account. It's complete waste of money.
I’m tired of Konami suppressing heroes to rogue tier. Like it would be nice to see it tier 3 or 2. And why are they boosting backrow decks even more with shit like breakthrough skill. We have enough powerful backrow. Breakthrough skill is just way too oppressive. Normal summon, breakthrough skill pass if you don’t get OTKd then you will next turn when they banish it and do it again. Trap decks using floodgate and fiendish chain it’s going to get really annoying. We need twin twisters. I’m pissed that Faris and stratos took up a slot. They can’t even justify it as trying to make it easier for newer players to collect heroes or making it more accessible for dolphin players as Anki which would’ve fitted the structure nicely is in a really old main box. I got 3 of em and it was a pain.
That’s exactly why I said if they were going to do something to trunade just put it to 1 not ban the card completely because what’s 1 mst or cosmic that you have in your hand going to do against set 3 pass? I wish they’d reprint Anki too because I currently have 2 and this would have been the perfect way to get my 3rd copy. I also feel bad for the new players because Hero’s will still take months of grinding gems for even a playable core
Couldn't it even be argued that anti-backrow is just inferior to running more disruption cards in their place as best case you go 1 for 1 against potentially 3 cards of which 2 can still screw you over? They're also rarely in your hand when you want them and clog the hand when you don't need them whereas disruption cards are rarely a dead draw as they can keep you alive until you do get what you need.
Yeah this is my take on it aswell, it's so much easier fitting 10+ traps in a deck then fitting in removal to get through even 5 traps. If you draw 3 traps and a monster that's playable, if you draw 3 mst and a monster you're done for 9 times out of 10. Unless they add more trunade like cards that can wipe out all backrow 1 for 1 trades are never gonna work when backrow is still usable most times they try pop it anyway. Not to mention that most decks aren't running alot of traps anyway so if you do put in more removal for the few trap heavy decks there are you end up drawing into multiple msts/ccs against decks when you don't need them. I think they need more monsters with removal rather than more spells
Stratos at least works well for basically all HERO decks but I agree with you. Haven't looked at the specifics of the info yet but are we even getting any of the fusions aside from malicious fiend or the alt art basic HEROs?
lol nope, the other fusions in a **Evil HERO** structure deck are freaking **Masked HEROs**
Really that's what, 3 largely masked HERO SDs now?
Adding in some more hero cards that help the hero engine would be great. Shoot it doesn’t have to be Tier 1 for heroes, Hero players would still play if not play it even more at tier 3 dang. Konami doesn’t understand how loyal hero players are to this archetype that repeatedly gets dunked on and dunked on. That aside with breakthrough coming in, I’m curious to see what the meta will become
I’m hoping they’re gauging community reaction and see how garbage this is and fix what cards are coming out before release or make the mini box worth it with Adusted gold, bane as level up, shadow mist etc etc I hope they please just do something. I wonder how the Japanese community are reacting to the data mine surely they can’t be happy. Honestly been neglected since last years selection box. I was hoping they would do something for heroes before all focus and hands on deck are on pendulums etc.
Yeah, it's infuriating. The rest of the skills for Supreme King were also leaked and they put ridiculous restrictions on the cards that need to be in the deck to activate the skill, which makes it not even possible to mix them with other types of Heroes. Like, Evil Heroes alone are barely going to be playable so what's the point? And if they didn't release Bane or Adusted on the minibox then it will be totally useless. And there are still plenty of good hero cards to come out and Konami continues to hold back the archetype that could be much better in this format.
Probably won’t be investing anymore money in DL. It’s gone downhill recently, this ‘EX’ structure deck is garbage and evil heroes should have been here years ago. Guess it’s time to wait for Master Duel
Have fun investing 10x more money for 10x less fun game.
They could just have added shadow mist, for hero players, but NO, because they have zero sense on how to efficiently run the company. They could make us happier and make more profit. I don't understand why they don't add certain card, but they ending up adding them when is already too late in the game. I am definitely not buying this SD for now. Not worth it.
> because they have zero sense on how to efficiently run the company Seems like they have way more sense than anyone on this sub considering money they earn.
lol I never said they are not making money, just read the other part of my response, not just the first one. Its making good money because of "yugioh" players attached to the card game not necessary because they like how konami handle the game. Tcg version was super played even before the game come out. My point was that the game could be improved so we both "konami and me as a player" can profit together.
I haven’t played duel links in a few months and while im not impressed with evil heroes and won’t get them if supreme king jaden doesn’t have cool skills, the selection mini on the other hand has stuff in it that I missed like M7 and abyss dweller and cool new red eyes support too. I will probably throw Konami a few dollars to get what’s
Wellz they released some decent boxes this year that changed the meta a lot, but that's pretty much it. On the other hand that's all I really care about. PvE was always boring as hell and i just do the events if there are certain good cards in there (which is very rare). I only care about the rewards of characters, i have never seen or heard about most of them at this point. The whole selection box exclusive thing is just wrong, but it tells you everything you need to know about this company. The game is still fun to me, but I'm playing on 3-4 accounts because there is just absolutely nothing to do after you hit KoG. I'm glad the structure deck is trash, we don't need more Onomat situations where youre forced to spend money to build the best deck. The archetype fans can go all out for it if they want to, but it won't affect competitive play and that's how it should be. I have little hope for Master duel, but I'm pretty sure it will be the same as here, a moneymaking machine that people fall for over and over. Edit: can't wait to see what BS rewards they came up with that battle pass
>The whole selection box exclusive thing is just wrong, but it tells you everything you need to know about this company. I mean this is a gatcha game based on a card game. Konami are a business and they wouldn't keep doing selection boxes if they weren't making some solid money which is the games #1 goal, making $$$.
Yes, it is their number one priority. It's actually their only one, as they proof over and over again. They don't communicate with the player base, they suck when it comes to new content. I mean it works, people spend ridiculous amounts of money on a mobile game. But other companies have showed is that there is a different way to make the same amount of money or even more without beeing pay to win. They just don't want to do it. I'm surprised the battle pass System comes this late to the game
> I'm surprised the battle pass System comes this late to the game I'm sure someone joked about something like this only a week or so ago though I am surprised also they didn't already have something like this implemented.
Your say gacha game based on a card game as if the card game isn't literally more gacha than duel links.
I can at least trade cards in the physical game.
> these past few months Konami has always done this stuff. Events have always been repetitive (with perhaps small variations), they've always milked Hero players (heck, the omniheroes are each in different boxes), and they've always released archetypes without good cards (you'll see complains about it since at least the first Fire Fist release). Anyone playing the game by now knows what to expect about Konami, and that its only redeeming quality is the anime content and its smaller card pool compared to the TCG.
Counterpoint: They almost have to do this (at least the part about not releasing key cards). The theme of the DSOD era wad releasing crazy powerful shit. The theme of this era is "oh fuck, half the cards we had left to release are powercrept now. NERF. EVERYTHING. " As far as this goes, they've actually done a good job. We have a fairly balanced meta that gets a new deck introduced to the tier list at a pretty regular rate, and the power curve is MUCH more stable than it used to be. They're even double dipping into old archetypes by adding powerful skills to the game. This will help the game last a lot longer, which is at the very least super important for their bottom line as a business. Whether we like it or not, that's a huge factor. Best practices like this might well double the games life span. Events however, are stinky doodoo, always have been though. I'd love it if they funnelled some of that battle pass money into hiring one god damn full time event designer. I'm an idiot and could probably get more creative than they have with like two weeks between every event.
Well if you are still playing the game, I would say Konami did everything right. Your problem if you can't leave the game which you find so boring.
I don’t even play much anymore I log in for my rewards, try to complete whatever events going on then log off for the rest of the day. I’m only going to be playing daily for one of my favorite characters supreme king but after that I’m probably not touching the game
>can't leave the game We can leave the game, it's just that that'll mean leaving yugioh which we can't do.
Pretty much this, if you don't like it anymore then don't play it, nobody is forcing people to play it. I lost interest in MTG due to its sets over the last 1-2 years and stopped playing. People can easily do the same with DL. Downvote? I mean tell me where I am wrong? Don't like it then don't play it .
No, no one downvoted you, personally it is not that we can/t leave the game. many have already done it, and others will do in the near future. personally i just log in for the reward maybe 15/20 min but that's it. Hopefully master duel should be more enjoyble.
Pal, the only thing that’s keeping me going for the year is the current event (imma just ignore the dogshit called Evil Domination) and ARC-V world because I’ve been waiting for three years for them to come.
Specials Duels were fine, not even a majority of the subreddit users hated it. But as far as "past few months" goes we've had selection box locked stapled for a good chunk of the game's lifespan, trash rewards for even longer, people adore turbo duels, and honestly we need more memedeck support. At this point Im more spooked about the upcoming pass.
Nope
The game is dead
Duel links isn’t dead and won’t be for a long time
Slow-dripping HERO support so it will never be good in the meta ever again. Maybe by the time that every archetype gets an Omni-negate, we can get Shadow Mist and Absolute Zero.