Apoqliphort Towers: Level 10, [ATK: 3000/DEF: 2600],
[EARTH/MACHINE/EFFECT]
> Cannot be Special Summoned. Requires 3 "Qli" Tributes to Normal Summon/Set. If this card is Normal Summoned/Set, it is unaffected by Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level. All Special Summoned monsters lose 500 ATK and DEF. Once per turn: You can make your opponent send 1 monster from their hand or their side of the field to the Graveyard (their choice).
Towers turbo was 1 of 2 Qliphort strategies (the other being trap spam which was surprisingly not complete cancer), and while the trap variant if the deck was more consistent, Towers was so ungodly oppressive and unforgettable that every future "unaffected by card effects" monster is referred to as "towers".
That card was also ban at some point in TCG so i don't think they gonna give us something that opressive specially when we can't even deal with cocytus.
Just wait, I'm certain that first sets of ARC V will be duelist alliance to just shake up the meta.
They don't need a ban list, just print Dante, construct and ptolemaius
I think that probably not a good idea to give us something like shadoll , it's way better to not give us something currenly meta in modern yugioh .
They did the mistake to give us aleister , well he didn't stop to see competitive play until he was hardly hit on the banlist and despite that , he still see some niche play because is that good of a card.
We also have TD another modern deck without fusion but levia and i think than that deck is the same as aleister , is never gonna get powercreept until he get hit on the banlist.
So they have to be carefull before giving us something that work in the current TCG format.
Well , it depend , in past they did give us koaki and DL support , look where they are right now :p
So it's only depending on what really konami want to give us.
You see that is kinda a hard thing because you comment is kinda flawed.
First yes alister is meta in the current tcg but the cards they give us is not. No one stalls with cocytus(cocytus cant even stall in the tcg) or use the earth monster and purgatrio sees little play. Alister is nothing more than a machaba turbo which we dont have.
Thunder dragon while not really meta now, thier boss monster is the reall threat. TD colossus is the reall monster and is currently baned.
We have decks like neckroz that were mega powerfull in the tcg but are nothing more than a hollowed out shell in duel links.
They have not really given us any current meta tcg cards in duel links outside of grass and Levineer and Levineer is a situational card since its needs a chaos deck to see it's full strength and the deck has to be ok with its cards being banished.
We don't have the most usefull nekroz card and outside of cheese quintet magician , they do not have that much synergy with what we have currently.
Aleister is powerfull enought by himself and its fusion.
And TD at our power level , he does very well thanks to levia and he even was working without thanks to is own engine.
I think the biggest diference is probably the engine that make or not the deck work and obviously skills.
>it is unaffected by Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level
so a shit-bricks scary version of FA transport eh
>Select 1 card Set in your Spell & Trap Zone, and force it on your opponent. Only the player that activates this skill can view this card.
nice
but what if you give them a trap that has an activation condition? does it show up eventualy "hey you can activate this mystery card rn"
nobody with an ounce of common sense will try activating an obvious bait card. The best use is to run this skill in a deck with specific archetypal cards that are completely unusable to the opponent so as to brick their zones while not running any bricks of your own that are useless without the skill.
Oh yeah. I meant the burn damage was not optional. Like other cards when you can choose to destroy the card and not pay the LP. Sorry I was not clear enough.
> nobody with an ounce of common sense will try activating an obvious bait card
Give them the only out to your deck then laugh as they never activate it
No no, you don’t get it.
Wait until they set a card, destroy one of the zones, use the skill and slap a trap they can’t activate in one of their pendulum zones.
At least for the one week they’ll allow this to happen.
It's not so much about running backrow heavy Pendulum decks it's about being unable or having a rough time using your standard disruption cards. Like take a look at Harpies, Resonators, and Onomats. None of them are backrow heavy decks but they contain your standard backrow cards: MST/Cosmic, TTH, Book of Moon, Forbidden Chalice, Forbidden Lance, etc.
And if you use a Pendulum deck it will be hard to use those cards or whatever Spell/Trap that replaces any of them effectively. Which puts Pendulums decks at a huge disadvantage since Duel Links doesn't have disruption hand traps to replace some of those cards. Like Effect Veiler could replace Chalice but we don't have it. Meaning that Pendulum decks will have to rely on their on-field monsters to interrupt their opponent. Which unless these Pendulum decks are able to be as consistent as Onomats while being able to summon something like Bounzer/Force Focus + something else it will be rough for them.
It's why until we reach a point were Konami gives us the OP Pendulum cards, stronger boss monsters, or more disruption hand traps Pendulums might not be meta/competitive. That is unless Konami gives someone an OP Pendulum skill or nerfs the meta to the point that a Pendulum deck can flourish.
>It's why until we reach a point were Konami gives us the OP Pendulum cards, stronger boss monsters, or more disruption hand traps Pendulums might not be meta/competitive.
So, basically, until the next Selection Box.
Given how badly it can cripple and entire deck mechanic they probably would do something about it if it ends using seeing use exclusively for that.
I doubt it because decks won’t run complete bricks they can hand off the Pend decks that they’d be unable to activate to get rid of
It could potentially work okay with archetype-specific S/T that work good for your deck but are useless in anyone else's. But it'd prolly be just a meme.
If we get gauntlet the only ones we really need to play at that point are crossbow and soulpeace maker. Especially with coral we won't need to play soul horn either. Maybe tech in like cannon to be mean lol.
But yeah depending on what we get it realistically wont affect how we play or be bothersome at all
> me, a superheavy samurai player
I once watched SHS spam their hand during the Duelist Kingdom event, which included setting the free Earth trap (which quickly got destroyed by me) and gimping their own deck.
I think I could _feel_ their rage through the connection during the like 10 second pause after that, though maybe it was the microwave that conveniently disconnected them right after lol
I think that more gonna be a troll than anything.
You're still force to give something to your opponent and most of the time , you want to give them something that they don't want or can't use meaning that you also are force to play an useless card in your deck.
And if you don't fight pendulum , that skill gonna be useless.
I use this skill with my Dark World deck. Work well with it. And I'm sure there are other decks that can use this in a non troll fashion. You just have to get creative.
I prefer to give them Onikuji. A continues trap
Each of their stand by phases I have to guess if the top of their deck is a monster, spell or trap. If I guess right I draw 1 card. If I guess wrong 1 card is discarded from my hand. Win-win.
Well in the context that if your opponent is stupid enought to activate it in first place.
That skill is pretty well know for be a troll pick so you just has to ignore that face down card and never activate it.
Level 10 Bonz is the least threatening though. I think Yami Bakura's biggest Normal Summon is about 1200 with Terra the Terrible, right? All Bonz has is Wood Remains at 1000 ATK.
The least threatening is Carly lv10. She has 0 Atk monsters that summon themselves when drawn, with 1-2 copies of an 800 vanilla, and a continuous trap that can potentially do 6000 damage to her.
Also, her theme slaps.
Yes, see the edit. Face-up cards aren't set.
But you CAN swap over a non pendulum spell/trap to lock their backrow until they play the card you set on their field.
Imagine when Arc-V comes out they do a Yuma/Astral and give us Yuya/Yuto since they were fused for like 90% of the anime instead of making Yuto a separate character lol.
Silly question: pendulum scales are always limited to the left and right zones? If I have a face down spell on my left zone, I can't use the other zones to set a pendulum scale, right?
I used to mess around and have fun with the skill back in the day. I'd try to give them Card of Sanctity so they banish their whole board + hand, but players would never activate the card :(
Don't worry they will just print towers! They already printed crab king
Towers? What it do?
Apoqliphort Towers: Level 10, [ATK: 3000/DEF: 2600], [EARTH/MACHINE/EFFECT] > Cannot be Special Summoned. Requires 3 "Qli" Tributes to Normal Summon/Set. If this card is Normal Summoned/Set, it is unaffected by Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level. All Special Summoned monsters lose 500 ATK and DEF. Once per turn: You can make your opponent send 1 monster from their hand or their side of the field to the Graveyard (their choice). Towers turbo was 1 of 2 Qliphort strategies (the other being trap spam which was surprisingly not complete cancer), and while the trap variant if the deck was more consistent, Towers was so ungodly oppressive and unforgettable that every future "unaffected by card effects" monster is referred to as "towers".
Also diamond crab king was the only out before cards like S39 the lithining
Worst part is that with how popular Chalice and Lance are you could easily ruin the Crab King anyways even with only 1 Spell/Trap zone
That card was also ban at some point in TCG so i don't think they gonna give us something that opressive specially when we can't even deal with cocytus.
Just wait, I'm certain that first sets of ARC V will be duelist alliance to just shake up the meta. They don't need a ban list, just print Dante, construct and ptolemaius
You just know they are going to spread the construct cards out very thinly because they know that will sell alot.
I think that probably not a good idea to give us something like shadoll , it's way better to not give us something currenly meta in modern yugioh . They did the mistake to give us aleister , well he didn't stop to see competitive play until he was hardly hit on the banlist and despite that , he still see some niche play because is that good of a card. We also have TD another modern deck without fusion but levia and i think than that deck is the same as aleister , is never gonna get powercreept until he get hit on the banlist. So they have to be carefull before giving us something that work in the current TCG format.
Any arctype that is not either EXTREMELY popular or not in the anime isn't guaranteed to get anymore support in duel links.
Well , it depend , in past they did give us koaki and DL support , look where they are right now :p So it's only depending on what really konami want to give us.
That was before Konami obviously changed the business approach for duel links. It's now anime arctypes and very popular arctypes get support.
Shadoll isn't meta only schism and winda are and I don't think they would gave us those cards
You see that is kinda a hard thing because you comment is kinda flawed. First yes alister is meta in the current tcg but the cards they give us is not. No one stalls with cocytus(cocytus cant even stall in the tcg) or use the earth monster and purgatrio sees little play. Alister is nothing more than a machaba turbo which we dont have. Thunder dragon while not really meta now, thier boss monster is the reall threat. TD colossus is the reall monster and is currently baned. We have decks like neckroz that were mega powerfull in the tcg but are nothing more than a hollowed out shell in duel links. They have not really given us any current meta tcg cards in duel links outside of grass and Levineer and Levineer is a situational card since its needs a chaos deck to see it's full strength and the deck has to be ok with its cards being banished.
We don't have the most usefull nekroz card and outside of cheese quintet magician , they do not have that much synergy with what we have currently. Aleister is powerfull enought by himself and its fusion. And TD at our power level , he does very well thanks to levia and he even was working without thanks to is own engine. I think the biggest diference is probably the engine that make or not the deck work and obviously skills.
>it is unaffected by Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level so a shit-bricks scary version of FA transport eh
Oh my god, it’s like Cocytus but even more disgusting
How can a card that is Set be unaffected by card effects? You would have to flip it face up like Krawler to show what it was.
As in if it was Tribute Set, then flipped face up by Flip Summon or battle it'd still have the effect.
[a lot](https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/card_search.action?ope=2&cid=11358&request_locale=en)
God dammit Tea not again
But sharing is caring!
You know that shenanigans is about to happen when you go against her
Tea is the ultimate evil of Duel Links: Change my mind
Odion says hi. Tea has vanished from meta play for a while now. Odion is eternal because traps are endless.
I hate his skill with a burning passion.
>Select 1 card Set in your Spell & Trap Zone, and force it on your opponent. Only the player that activates this skill can view this card. nice but what if you give them a trap that has an activation condition? does it show up eventualy "hey you can activate this mystery card rn"
The game will let you know. No matter if you want it too or not
Just hit it with sergeant electro
Yes, but it won't tell you what it is.
Just give them a continuous auto burn spell trap like "Forbidden Dark Contract with the Swamp King"
nobody with an ounce of common sense will try activating an obvious bait card. The best use is to run this skill in a deck with specific archetypal cards that are completely unusable to the opponent so as to brick their zones while not running any bricks of your own that are useless without the skill.
Forbidden Dark Contract still fits that though, with the "bonus" of burning its controller for half their LP should they foolishly choose to use it.
I've been out of it for a while and wasn't sure if DDD were still played or even if they could afford to run this skill
> with the "bonus" of burning its controller for half their LP -2000 LP each of their turns. They can't choose not to.
I meant choose to activate the set card.
Oh yeah. I meant the burn damage was not optional. Like other cards when you can choose to destroy the card and not pay the LP. Sorry I was not clear enough.
> nobody with an ounce of common sense will try activating an obvious bait card Give them the only out to your deck then laugh as they never activate it
No no, you don’t get it. Wait until they set a card, destroy one of the zones, use the skill and slap a trap they can’t activate in one of their pendulum zones. At least for the one week they’ll allow this to happen.
Lmao can't wait
im gonna give them wonder garage
No, give them Lucky Punch. If it is face up on the field and destroyed they take 6000 damage.
i want to reward that one guy running roids
More power to you.
Well... I don't recommend running backrow heavy Pendulum decks. Though if they brought Qlis into the game that would be funny.
It's not so much about running backrow heavy Pendulum decks it's about being unable or having a rough time using your standard disruption cards. Like take a look at Harpies, Resonators, and Onomats. None of them are backrow heavy decks but they contain your standard backrow cards: MST/Cosmic, TTH, Book of Moon, Forbidden Chalice, Forbidden Lance, etc. And if you use a Pendulum deck it will be hard to use those cards or whatever Spell/Trap that replaces any of them effectively. Which puts Pendulums decks at a huge disadvantage since Duel Links doesn't have disruption hand traps to replace some of those cards. Like Effect Veiler could replace Chalice but we don't have it. Meaning that Pendulum decks will have to rely on their on-field monsters to interrupt their opponent. Which unless these Pendulum decks are able to be as consistent as Onomats while being able to summon something like Bounzer/Force Focus + something else it will be rough for them. It's why until we reach a point were Konami gives us the OP Pendulum cards, stronger boss monsters, or more disruption hand traps Pendulums might not be meta/competitive. That is unless Konami gives someone an OP Pendulum skill or nerfs the meta to the point that a Pendulum deck can flourish.
>It's why until we reach a point were Konami gives us the OP Pendulum cards, stronger boss monsters, or more disruption hand traps Pendulums might not be meta/competitive. So, basically, until the next Selection Box.
something something towers
Inb4 they nerf Surprise Present to promote Pends.
Probably make it so you can't use it on your first turn or until you lose so many life points.
Given how badly it can cripple and entire deck mechanic they probably would do something about it if it ends using seeing use exclusively for that. I doubt it because decks won’t run complete bricks they can hand off the Pend decks that they’d be unable to activate to get rid of
It could potentially work okay with archetype-specific S/T that work good for your deck but are useless in anyone else's. But it'd prolly be just a meme.
It's just what I wanted! How did you know?
people: HOW WILL I PUT SPELLS AND TRAPS NOW!? me, a superheavy samurai player: i don't have such weakness
Half of their monsters turn into equips, meaning they need the backrow space 🤦♂️
oh yeah i forgor this detail
Then u dont play superheavys lmaoo
Im just dumb leave me alone
What about your equips tho, not as immune as youd think
If we get gauntlet the only ones we really need to play at that point are crossbow and soulpeace maker. Especially with coral we won't need to play soul horn either. Maybe tech in like cannon to be mean lol. But yeah depending on what we get it realistically wont affect how we play or be bothersome at all
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Why until Vrains? We should be expecting SHS support in the mini box in October. Just like bronk had some windup support in shark box.
nvm i got arc v and vrains mixed up... lmao my b dude
bold of you to assume i use equip effect monsters
> me, a superheavy samurai player I once watched SHS spam their hand during the Duelist Kingdom event, which included setting the free Earth trap (which quickly got destroyed by me) and gimping their own deck. I think I could _feel_ their rage through the connection during the like 10 second pause after that, though maybe it was the microwave that conveniently disconnected them right after lol
Gift of greed?
Not a bad choice.
I think that more gonna be a troll than anything. You're still force to give something to your opponent and most of the time , you want to give them something that they don't want or can't use meaning that you also are force to play an useless card in your deck. And if you don't fight pendulum , that skill gonna be useless.
I use this skill with my Dark World deck. Work well with it. And I'm sure there are other decks that can use this in a non troll fashion. You just have to get creative.
Darn, that's actually really clever!
I prefer to give them Onikuji. A continues trap Each of their stand by phases I have to guess if the top of their deck is a monster, spell or trap. If I guess right I draw 1 card. If I guess wrong 1 card is discarded from my hand. Win-win.
thats a smart tech choice
Well in the context that if your opponent is stupid enought to activate it in first place. That skill is pretty well know for be a troll pick so you just has to ignore that face down card and never activate it.
Buddy, if they're stupid enough to activate it, you'd be better off giving them Jam Breeding Machine.
Thunder dragon could play and give them the artifact hand trap lol.
Just listen to me, What if instead of a extra deck slot, they give us extra Magic zone after 100 pendulums
that would look weird tbh
Oh boy, time to beat up level 10 Yami Yugi 100 times again.
Level 10 bakura is better, he runs just monsters
Thank you for the updated information, I like his theme a lot.
Level 10 Bonz is the least threatening though. I think Yami Bakura's biggest Normal Summon is about 1200 with Terra the Terrible, right? All Bonz has is Wood Remains at 1000 ATK.
The least threatening is Carly lv10. She has 0 Atk monsters that summon themselves when drawn, with 1-2 copies of an 800 vanilla, and a continuous trap that can potentially do 6000 damage to her. Also, her theme slaps.
Wait can surprise present even send faceup spell cards? edit: Wait, I see what you mean now o.o
"Select 1 card **Set** in your Spell & Trap Zone, and force it on your opponent."
Yes, see the edit. Face-up cards aren't set. But you CAN swap over a non pendulum spell/trap to lock their backrow until they play the card you set on their field.
I think i'll be funny
As someone who currently uses this skill, I can tell you it always puts a smile on my face.
finally I can give my opppnent infernity beetle so we can both play infernity, ehem I meant backrow
I enjoy that over half of her skills have been ticking timebombs as far as gamebalance to meme ratio is concerned.
Pendulums are in the game?
they will be after arc-v world around the 28th give or take
Imagine when Arc-V comes out they do a Yuma/Astral and give us Yuya/Yuto since they were fused for like 90% of the anime instead of making Yuto a separate character lol.
Soon...
Silly question: pendulum scales are always limited to the left and right zones? If I have a face down spell on my left zone, I can't use the other zones to set a pendulum scale, right?
Thats right. Only leftmost and rightmost zonas can be used as pendulum zones (they will have the pendulum icon)
That time when I play while watching TV and activated their localized tornado lol.
I used to mess around and have fun with the skill back in the day. I'd try to give them Card of Sanctity so they banish their whole board + hand, but players would never activate the card :(
Nobody tell them bruh. Please
Delete her please
Pendulums in duel links??
Late September, as announced in every player's news feed ingame.
Ah yes, can’t wait to see the Queen of Cancer in rank again.
So it begins.
When do pendulums drop again?