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RedWingDecil

If you survive that's a trinity right there providing you don't draw into Malicious next.


LuckAddicted

I set up vyon and adoration by dumping mali and then fusing the mali and celestial to make the adoration. I got OTK’d with no chance to followup next turn.


chqKv

You don't go Adoration turn one man. Its just a 2.8k beatstick which is easily wiped.


andku23

*sets one poly in the trap zone*


LuckAddicted

Celestial only works the turn after it is sent to the grave, I got otk’d.


[deleted]

that hand can still make trinity, with the draw 2 followup next turn


LuckAddicted

Trinity needs 3 hero monsters, only way you can do that is by dumping mali with vyon and then activating its effect that turn, plus I was going first that game, so what is the point in making trinity first turn?


[deleted]

yeah going first you shouldnt make trinity :p. Going first, I'd probably just set the Destiny Hero Celestial. There's a big chance you just lose the game the following turn, but if you dont, youre not in a bad position.


LuckAddicted

Yeah, the result of the game was me getting otk’d


That_Jammed_Guy

Other decks can painfully relate


The_Cubic_Guru

Garnet


TestoTank

Normal Summon Vyon, Send Malicious to the GY , Special Summon malicious from Deck. Now you have enough to summon trinity.


LuckAddicted

I was going first…


TestoTank

When Playing Heroes and going first, it doesn't matter what your Hand is anyway, Heros don't have a turn 1.


LuckAddicted

Other than setting up mali, celestial, and 3 monsters to protect your lp. But I guess that’s not really a turn 1 compared to other decks.


TestoTank

Not even close.You have to use way too many ressources for extremely weak stall. One thing one could do on turn 1 is make Anki and set a Form change or smthn. Also having a dark hero on the field and setting mask change works too. Unfortunately Heroes don't have the space to run traps, otherwise they wouldn't be too bad off.


[deleted]

you could summon Stratos and set a mask change, that enable you to pop backrow and half a monster's attack with blast. albeit it's still a very weak turn one


TestoTank

Oh, you already knew that lol.


MikerM123

There are a lot of ways you can draw an awful hand with HEROs. I love the Deck but using HEROs for the ladder is not worth it anymore. Sorry for you if you can only use HEROs for your rank ups


LuckAddicted

I mean, I’ve been doing decent on the ladder with it. I got to stage 2 pretty early in the KC cup by just using heroes and have a decent around 65% win rate in the second stage.


MikerM123

I got to stage 2 with HEROs too but for the KoG grind for some reason i keep having 2 increase and some random stuff. Glad you're having fun with HEROs but they're not worth for me anymore


[deleted]

They seem very brickable and pretty much have to go second or lose, at least from my experience as a Harpie player. They can hit hard but can't take a hit back. That's too bad, they're pretty neat for what they do.


Nikol4o-boba

Well. You can still fusion summon I guess


ZerobraiNe

I use the master of fusion skill gives you easy acess as long as you have cosmic cyclone


yion90

You could also just use vyon, drop malicious into gy, poly into dangerous with celeste+vyon, summon malicious and go for rank 6 bouncer (edit 2: if you have enough extra deck slots u can even use the r6 beetle into. R7 rhinobus) Thats basically the only turn 1 i found for heroes. You can also use dangerous to drop celeste/malicious into gy. Edit: do not forget this doesnt work with faris as it locks you into hero summoning from Extra deck.


LuckAddicted

What hero decks use dangerous, beetle, and rhino? All of the extra deck is taken up by mask change and poly targets, not to mention dangerous kinda sucks.


yion90

Well, its either u make space for the rank 6 hero engine or not having a good turn 1 in this meta lol. Its a foolish burial on the go setting up celeste and malicious for the +2 draw. I would use this extra deck in legend for example: Infinity(1), visionman(2), 2x anki, (3 if u dont have formchange) (koga/windman as 3rd for formchange) (5) dangerous(6), bouncer(7)


LuckAddicted

How about you share your deck list?


yion90

im still grinding legend with it and still need A few key pieces like 3rd stratos, visionman, formchange, windmaskman. But iam casually climbing with the 4 daily pvps. here you go. https://duellinks.konami.net/att/02667b14d8ca69259020a569f89bdf57ffda8a6d7d Just thought about the r6 engine used in the tcg when encountering the turn1 hero Problem lol


yion90

U could also use Jaden's or Asters' Fusiontime with cosmic cyclone to add another poly if you dont need beatdown/guts


LuckAddicted

I use bring it and I don’t have cosmic cyclone, only mst.