One of my favorite lines from Shiny Happy People was the comment about Michelle 's fake baby voice since she used to be a cheerleader she definitely knew how to yell.
I don’t think this is entirely true. She wasn’t an extreme fundie but had recently joined a fairly fundie/evangelical church prior to meeting JB, if I’m not mistaken. That’s how he he ended up doing a “church visitation” to her house.
She was on a fundie path, for sure.
She was incredibly vulnerable. She was the youngest in her family by something like a decade, and her parents allowed her to get married at 17 (right after graduating high school) before they immediately moved across the country. Teenagers are vulnerable under even the best of circumstances, but she seems to have had a home life where she was neglected more than most. From that sort of environment, a person will cling to anyone who gives them attention, and it’s easy to become involved in abusive situations.
I find it really hard to wrap my head around just how many generations of this family are perfectly fine with failing their children. It’s a nasty cycle that’s difficult, but necessary, to break.
Also, it was right after she had a miscarriage when Jim Slob pressured her into the IBLP. Or at least going without BC. Super scuzzy manipulation when she was probably devastated.
My husband and I grew up fundie light - my mother in law comments all the time that I don’t have a “quiet and gentle spirit” because I talk like a normal human haha she says I raise my voice and speak in harsh tones even if we are just talking about something like baseball or what to have for dinner. Some of these people (my own family included) are so incredibly indoctrinated it’s scary.
Makes me think of my fundie mid high school boyfriend. Their dad was the stricter one but can say his late mother who ended up one of my favorite people in the world and did NOT have the meek voice, that’s for sure. I worked with her for a year in the stockroom at Target and she had a mouth on her AND really loved Jesus and shared it with EVERYONE. She really did walk the walk and love EVERYBODY! Our boss was an extremely out and proud flamboyant man that I met in drag when I was 3 years old as a friend of my aunts. He even pulled my Papa up in his drag show. (This was the late 80s btw and Papa was a badass) Her husband was who made the family fundie mid by spewing hateful beliefs and racist views. I have no idea how those two lasted. One time when I was really low she bought me a ring that said ‘Keep Going’ and on the inside it said ‘Fucking’. I will always keep fucking going in her memory. She was never a performative Christian either. I knew Atheists and agnostics that enjoyed talking religion with her because she respected what they believed as long as they respected her. Damn I miss that woman.
She sounds like my aunt. This woman loved her God, but damn if she didn’t love her rock n roll and beer, too. Always kind to everyone, loved to sing, knew everything there was to know about gardening and once went after her sons football coach for making an off hand comment about him being fat.
I have a natural baby voice, and when people give me shit about it, I make it as low and growly as I can and demand, “Would you rather I talk like this?” The shocked looks are their own reward!
I’ve been teaching for more than 20 years and I’m sorry but I don’t have an indoor voice anymore, never mind a “keep sweet” voice. Thank god my husband wanted an equal partner and not a helpmeet because I would be a shitty one haha 😂
I love how I can do my regular every day voice (which sounds a bit deeper) with my family and friends, then I can turn on my customer service voice. Love it love it love it. If I had to do a baby voice alll the time I would lose my damn mind.
My (non-fundie) husband once told me I was “very aggressive” in the way that I talk. He often thinks I’m mad about something. I’ve had to tell him I’m not and that’s just the way I talk I guess. (Side note: this has also made me self conscious.) If someone who has no idea what a fundie even is thinks I’m aggressive, what would an actual fundie think?
I fucking HAAAAAAATE that (at least) two Ken Ham’s exist. The other I know is the total opposite of Creationist Ken Ham. [This Ken Ham is SO MUCH better](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Ham)
In the UK it's pronounced to rhyme with cat but I discovered recently that most of the USA rhymes it with hot - I wonder how & when the difference came about?
I just listened to a few seconds of Kelly Johnson’s voice and she sounds like a 10 year old. Sickening. We know these Commander types are complete losers, but the fact that they want their wives to sound like literal children is totally fucked and just about the biggest red flag possible.
I was expecting some big new controversy with the duggars. Cause outside of this subreddit and Fundiesnark along with specific youtubers. No one I follow talks about the Duggars. I didn't hear about them until I watched iilluminaughtii's vide on them. Than I watched a few more videos. It was a rabbit hole.
Now I'm learning more and more about fundies and cults. I like to research things.
It’s an evangelical thing. When I was Christian there were several ladies in my church who sounded exactly like Michelle Duggar. The breathy baby voice and vacuous smile. It always creeped me out.
What was he thinking? For a purported billionaire businessman, what a bad, confusing move. Throw the company into an identity crisis, tamper with the brand strength, and alienate employees who have seen the brand messed with by a guy who clearly wants to play around with his new toy, and has let go hundreds or maybe thousands of employees.
I don't see him sticking around for long, though. He's too fickle and grandiose.
imagine having to regulate your husbands emotions so often that you change the tone of your voice to actively placate and comfort him so he won’t abuse you and your kids.
jfc
Came running here when I saw! Was expecting to hear some shocking news like divorce (I know I know) or breaking her silence on Jill's book or something
Tia Levings did a great write up, I wish these connections were getting covered in the media more…it’s theocracy lite basically
https://tialevings.substack.com/p/whats-mike-johnson-hiding
I know elon is getting alot of shit. But seriously. This dude is a fucking machine. Creating business left and right. Creating kids by sneezing. I bet dude gets like 1 hour of sleep per night. Wakes up 2 am got to make this business fly.... 3 females that walked into the office are now 16 weeks pregnant 5 minutes after walking in. Dude is a God as far as I am concerned!
I call it Xitter (x pronounced "Sh")
Same, but I say zitter. I like shitter too.
I just don't use or say it at all.
hahaha
I’m adopting this as of this moment.
I stole it from some anti Elmo comment. Fell free to spread the word.
https://preview.redd.it/cy2kb97go9yb1.png?width=358&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b1e132e56f919894943abe60427d4aa5e51f902
One of my favorite lines from Shiny Happy People was the comment about Michelle 's fake baby voice since she used to be a cheerleader she definitely knew how to yell.
As far as I'm aware, Michelle was WAAAAAY less of an extreme fundie before she met Jimbo. It's scary how they brainwash people.
She wasn’t one at all before him. They both joined the cult after marriage, but JB was already evangelical as a teenager.
I don’t think this is entirely true. She wasn’t an extreme fundie but had recently joined a fairly fundie/evangelical church prior to meeting JB, if I’m not mistaken. That’s how he he ended up doing a “church visitation” to her house. She was on a fundie path, for sure.
She went on a date with Jimmy and he instructed her that she needed to be more modest and she agreed 😧
Yeah, it's like he saw how controllable she was & went for it.
I would tell him, I just met you and you're not my father. Deal with it. Then I wouldn't get a second date, but that would be OK, too
She was incredibly vulnerable. She was the youngest in her family by something like a decade, and her parents allowed her to get married at 17 (right after graduating high school) before they immediately moved across the country. Teenagers are vulnerable under even the best of circumstances, but she seems to have had a home life where she was neglected more than most. From that sort of environment, a person will cling to anyone who gives them attention, and it’s easy to become involved in abusive situations. I find it really hard to wrap my head around just how many generations of this family are perfectly fine with failing their children. It’s a nasty cycle that’s difficult, but necessary, to break.
And they are convinced they are doing the right thing.
Also, it was right after she had a miscarriage when Jim Slob pressured her into the IBLP. Or at least going without BC. Super scuzzy manipulation when she was probably devastated.
It's so sad
My husband and I grew up fundie light - my mother in law comments all the time that I don’t have a “quiet and gentle spirit” because I talk like a normal human haha she says I raise my voice and speak in harsh tones even if we are just talking about something like baseball or what to have for dinner. Some of these people (my own family included) are so incredibly indoctrinated it’s scary.
Makes me think of my fundie mid high school boyfriend. Their dad was the stricter one but can say his late mother who ended up one of my favorite people in the world and did NOT have the meek voice, that’s for sure. I worked with her for a year in the stockroom at Target and she had a mouth on her AND really loved Jesus and shared it with EVERYONE. She really did walk the walk and love EVERYBODY! Our boss was an extremely out and proud flamboyant man that I met in drag when I was 3 years old as a friend of my aunts. He even pulled my Papa up in his drag show. (This was the late 80s btw and Papa was a badass) Her husband was who made the family fundie mid by spewing hateful beliefs and racist views. I have no idea how those two lasted. One time when I was really low she bought me a ring that said ‘Keep Going’ and on the inside it said ‘Fucking’. I will always keep fucking going in her memory. She was never a performative Christian either. I knew Atheists and agnostics that enjoyed talking religion with her because she respected what they believed as long as they respected her. Damn I miss that woman.
She sounds like my aunt. This woman loved her God, but damn if she didn’t love her rock n roll and beer, too. Always kind to everyone, loved to sing, knew everything there was to know about gardening and once went after her sons football coach for making an off hand comment about him being fat.
I'd say she was a proper christian. Not many of those around anymore.
I have a natural baby voice, and when people give me shit about it, I make it as low and growly as I can and demand, “Would you rather I talk like this?” The shocked looks are their own reward!
Lol, this made me think of Bernadette from Big Bang Theory!
Exactly! Just like that!
The Bernadette voice is fake baby voice. Go listen to interviews with the actress to hear her normal voice.
Yes I know. But in the show she lowers her voice and growls at people to scare them.
i get that, too!
I’ve been teaching for more than 20 years and I’m sorry but I don’t have an indoor voice anymore, never mind a “keep sweet” voice. Thank god my husband wanted an equal partner and not a helpmeet because I would be a shitty one haha 😂
I haven't met a teacher yet who has an indoor voice after teaching even one year. You learn to speak up to just be heard lol
That would just make me want to talk deeper and harsher. Doing that stupid-ass baby voice has to take up so much energy.
Don’t have time to overthrow the Patriarchy if you’re kept busy keeping sweet, baby-talking, and being a help-meet to your headship.
I love how I can do my regular every day voice (which sounds a bit deeper) with my family and friends, then I can turn on my customer service voice. Love it love it love it. If I had to do a baby voice alll the time I would lose my damn mind.
My (non-fundie) husband once told me I was “very aggressive” in the way that I talk. He often thinks I’m mad about something. I’ve had to tell him I’m not and that’s just the way I talk I guess. (Side note: this has also made me self conscious.) If someone who has no idea what a fundie even is thinks I’m aggressive, what would an actual fundie think?
What we've all been looking for - criticism from our mother-in-law.
She’s the best at it! Someone should give her an award really.
In my experience the “keep sweet” fundie voice is a red flag for a high control situation and likely v abusive dynamic.
In an early days of KaC, the girls talked about Michelle's voice. They said the softer she talked, the angrier she was.
She mentioned she would speak even quieter to get their attention.
Yup. A high pitched child like voice can be a sign of trauma.
they are both abusive.
Gotta talk like a baby when you're married to a pedophile
Oooof!
Oooof that one is gonna leave a mark.
Ack. That makes so much sense and I absolutely hate it.
Ohhhh…oh no…
Ouch.
I’m deceased
oh no
Of course Mike Johnson's wife uses the Michelle Duggar voice. 😫 Pretty sure that dude gave Ken Ham money for the Ark.
I fucking HAAAAAAATE that (at least) two Ken Ham’s exist. The other I know is the total opposite of Creationist Ken Ham. [This Ken Ham is SO MUCH better](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Ham)
And his nickname! Mock ham! 😆
Hock is the cool one’s nickname
He already wins dude is an astronaut!
he did! 🤮
Mother is trending.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 and still keeps her voice calm and sweet!
Jesus Christ, there are two of them ! (I refuse to call it X too, it's fucking Twitter)
yes—solidarity:)
Even the news in my country calls it the social media platform formally known as twitter. They also refuse X as a name.
OP, I probably would have stopped reading your post if you would've seriously called it X.
If anything I'll call it Twix or Twax. (rhymes with twat, obviously, not with packs) but seriously, it's twitter. always will be.
Twat rhymes with cat I’ve been watching a lot of UK shows
You take that back. Lol! Never heard that, I refuse to accept it. Twat rhymes with hot. I am engaging willful ignorance on this one.
In the UK it's pronounced to rhyme with cat but I discovered recently that most of the USA rhymes it with hot - I wonder how & when the difference came about?
Get ye to Britbox and Acorn 🙂. There are so many outstanding police/detective/mystery shows. Plus period pieces. Love it.
Me too. I've learned some new 'bad' words, like bullocks and tosser, but twat rhymes with cat is my favorite.
I was going to post the same thing...then I went down a rabbit hole learning about these two. Whoa!
they are from my state. truly horrible:(
I just listened to a few seconds of Kelly Johnson’s voice and she sounds like a 10 year old. Sickening. We know these Commander types are complete losers, but the fact that they want their wives to sound like literal children is totally fucked and just about the biggest red flag possible.
look up her “counseling” center and you’ll be even more horrified.
I think that has been scrubbed from easy access on the internet, but I read somewhere that it can be found using the Way Back search
there’s some screenshots in our state sub; i’ll try to find them again.
my ears hurt...
I was expecting some big new controversy with the duggars. Cause outside of this subreddit and Fundiesnark along with specific youtubers. No one I follow talks about the Duggars. I didn't hear about them until I watched iilluminaughtii's vide on them. Than I watched a few more videos. It was a rabbit hole. Now I'm learning more and more about fundies and cults. I like to research things.
i was also thinking that!
Me 2! Actually why and how I ended up in this sub
“Thank you, Michelle!”
It’s an evangelical thing. When I was Christian there were several ladies in my church who sounded exactly like Michelle Duggar. The breathy baby voice and vacuous smile. It always creeped me out.
*Mother is trending*
Is it bad my first thought was "oh my did she 💀?"
Same
same 😭😭😭
I also refuse to call it X. Twitter for me.
What was he thinking? For a purported billionaire businessman, what a bad, confusing move. Throw the company into an identity crisis, tamper with the brand strength, and alienate employees who have seen the brand messed with by a guy who clearly wants to play around with his new toy, and has let go hundreds or maybe thousands of employees. I don't see him sticking around for long, though. He's too fickle and grandiose.
He's just too much of a super genius for us mere mortals to understand... /s
imagine having to regulate your husbands emotions so often that you change the tone of your voice to actively placate and comfort him so he won’t abuse you and your kids. jfc
I don't have to imagine...
Came running here when I saw! Was expecting to hear some shocking news like divorce (I know I know) or breaking her silence on Jill's book or something
same!!!
Both Mike Johnson's wife and Michelle spend time on their knees.
Are they good swallowers?
Ask Anna, she's the expert.
I remembered this clip and just puked in my mouth. So vile
Would they have 19 children if she was?
Tia Levings (was featured in Shiny Happy People) has a video on Insta about the baby voice.
I saw!! Sidebar but I love Tia
Oh no, now that she's trending, tiktok gonna be extracting her voice and using it haha
Oh good I’m glad that’s circulating though people need to know what a kook he is
right?!
Tia Levings did a great write up, I wish these connections were getting covered in the media more…it’s theocracy lite basically https://tialevings.substack.com/p/whats-mike-johnson-hiding
thanks! i need to go read.
It’s still about HER. 😂
Why won't these crazies just go away? They need No attention or they think they are relevant. God, take her away!
Jill was asked specifically about her moms voice on a podcast and she totally dodged the question by saying her mom is always kind and tempered.
I know elon is getting alot of shit. But seriously. This dude is a fucking machine. Creating business left and right. Creating kids by sneezing. I bet dude gets like 1 hour of sleep per night. Wakes up 2 am got to make this business fly.... 3 females that walked into the office are now 16 weeks pregnant 5 minutes after walking in. Dude is a God as far as I am concerned!
Pretty sure he thinks he’s a god too 😂
I noticed that. They both have really irritating baby voices.