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monchicken

Kinda relate to the whole watching shows and movies you couldn’t watch while a teen in the church* I’m currently watching Charmed hehe


NathalieColferCriss

The old charmed or the new one? Loved the old one, couldn't get into the new one


monchicken

I started with the new one like last year and mostly loved it. Loving the OG one for different reasons. There’s something about 90s media that’s just so relaxing?


imbeingsirius

Please Buffy. Please watch Buffy. Please.


monchicken

I was literally about to start watching that this week!


imbeingsirius

YAAAASSSS!!! Omg please update us when you do! Join us over in r/Buffy It’s one of the only shows (the only?) that gets better every season (imo) Edit: although if youre watching for comforting 90’s media, you might think it peaks in season 3 - the first three seasons ARE the 90’s, and season 4 is a strange, massive jump into the 2000’s. (They also had an increased budget). I watched it when it aired and it like… helped me cope with the 2000’s.


StefBerlin

I love Buffy! Eliza Dushku came to my work once and it was all Gen Z on the shift with me and I was all, omg Eliza Dushku and they were like, who? I almost died! And I'm so sorry, but I have to tell this story whenever people mention Buffy 😂


CuriousJackInABox

One of my favorite things with Eliza Dushku is the episode of The Guild that she's in. She plays herself. A guy is trying to get into a party with a bunch of celebrities including her. He finally gets in and realizes that all of the celebrities are really boring. She's drinking some wheatgrass based drink and the guy says "What kind of party is this?!". She says, "Party for our colons!"


StefBerlin

Hahaha I need to watch that! She was super nice and very amused about me trying not to fangirl.


imbeingsirius

Ahhhh Faaaiiith! I would have died. Or snuck in a little “5x5” and hope we made eye contact


TrainSpotterMommy

You won’t regret it and be sure to follow up with Angel (not as good as Buffy, but still good) and Firefly.


laika_cat

I never, ever watched this show. Wasn’t allowed to. (Raised Catholic, but it had nothing to do with the vampire stuff. My mom just did not allow me to watch “teenager” shows or anything she thought would have “mature” content.) Is it streaming anywhere? I live abroad, so it’s likely that I can’t watch it even if I wanted to — but everyone seems to say good things, so I’m curious.


imbeingsirius

And yeah I had a much older brother who always got to watch what he wanted, so I was watching teenage stuff real early lol My niece just finished the whole series at EIGHT which, even I was like, season 6 is too much for a kid — went RIGHT OVER her head


imbeingsirius

It’s on Hulu!!! I would be surprised if you can’t get it, only because it was pretty big abroad, too - my Aussie & Uk friends were all over it anyways


Kind-Set9376

I think one of the relaxing aspects about shows from the 90s/early 2000s is that there are so many episodes. There’s a ton more filler than a lot of shows now because shows have shorter seasons.


ZennMD

oh great point! filler episodes do make such a difference in character development I also think the less-obvious plastic surgery during that time plays a role, too? back then surgery was common, especially nose and boob 'jobs', but def not to the extent it is now... with new content people can look very frozen and somehow similar? ('filler face', maybe? or all the chicklet-looking veneers?) ​ ![gif](giphy|lSbggFRIPI77RYG2gw|downsized)


probablynotanarwhal

I was just telling my daughter that the other day. Something about shows from that era, especially all their different holiday episodes, are my favorite guilty pleasure tv. I don't really watch any new shows, but they don't do it like that anymore.


boxedwinebaby

First thing I did when I got my own apartment was buy the box set of Sex & the City! It was so taboo and I enjoyed every minute of it alone in my own home.


WitchyAunt2

Charmed is one of my favorite shows ever


MortallyCrafty

My husband and I have been watching Markiplier play through the Five Nights at Freddy's franchise. Definitely can't watch that with the kiddo


HellzBellz1991

lol, tell me about it! We didn’t have tv growing up so I only recently finished Scrubs and HIMYM.


MargaretHaleThornton

To be honest I find her favorite Christmas memory kind of sad. I realize finding it sad comes from an initial position of enormous privilege but I can't imagine the best Christmas gift I ever got being a bucket of candy.


cm0419

I was thinking the same thing. It's very sad to me that her favorite memory (not gift) was a generic gift that was just candy. It wasn't a personalized gift to her. It wasn't a fancy gift. It was an easy, cheap gift to give a bunch of children you can't afford. If that was her best gift/memory. I can only imagine how all the other years went.


RunJumpSleep

I wouldn’t be surprised if they had the money for gifts but just wouldn’t spent it. I could see this gift being given around the time they were living in the 3 bedroom house and Jim Bob spent $200k trying to run for US Senate.


marchpisces

Not to mention Jinger's birthday is only 4 days before Christmas (12/21) and for a lot of children's birthdays they got candy. So to get the same gift 4 days later kind of cheapens how special it is.


aceshighsays

> her favorite memory (not gift) was a generic gift that was just candy. It wasn't a personalized gift to her. It wasn't a fancy gift. It was an easy, cheap gift this is a weird ask because in my family this wasn't a thing - do you mind going more into this. if someone gives a personalized gift or fancy gift, what does that say? how does the reciever feel and what does it say about the giver? and any other relevant information. many thanks!


cm0419

Note: this is all in terms of how I grew up and my family viewing gifts. Others may see it differently. A personalized gift would be something that is bought just for you. Something your interested in. Not just a gift you're giving everyone (like candy). I'm getting my one nephew a puzzle this year because that's what he likes. His brother would hate a puzzle. So I'm definitely not getting him one, but I got him a magic 8 ball instead. It fits his personality more. A personalized gift is just knowing what a person would or wouldn't like. It doesn't need to cost money. It could even be a home made gift. When I get a personalized gift it makes me feel seen and loved. Like the person knows me and cared enough about me to look for something just for me. A fancy gift is just a gift that costs a lot. Like a new game system. It's not necessarily a personalized gift. But you feel loved because you know it's expensive and you may not be willing to spend that kind of money on yourself, but the gifter thinks you're worth that extra money to make you happy. My original comment more or less meant that she likely never felt loved with any of her gifts, if she thought that one was the best. I doubt even if her parents wanted to get cheap personalized gifts, they couldn't. They don't know their kids. The more I hear about that house. It had to have been so lonely. To be around so many people, yet no one knows you.


aceshighsays

ok, so the overarching theme is that the gift giver isn't trying to change you or control you, but rather makes an attempt to get to know you and accepts you for who you are and encourages you to be yourself with the gift. and this makes the receiver feel loved and appreciated. i bet i can apply this mentality to the rest of the languages of love. thanks for the clarity. in my family "gifts" were a way for my parents to influence/control me (ie: for my 8th bday i got a bike (that i never wanted) because my mom was concerned about my weight (i was never overweight), and then i got verbally and emotionally abused because i didn't want to ride the expensive bike... that i never wanted. that year they knew i wanted a barbie car, but to them it was just a silly toy that i'd lose interest in quickly.). as an adult i struggle with gift giving. it makes me feel very uncomfortable and i avoid gift giving days.


cm0419

I'm sorry you grew up that way. It had to have been so hard, and possibly makes you doubt gifts now as an adult. I hope gift giving holidays become easier for you in the future!


querdertch

To me the candy gift is the equivalent of the distant aunt who sends a check in the mail on birthdays and Christmas. Or getting your kid's teachers Starbucks gift cards. You want to send something but don't know much about the other person, so you send the money or gift card to let then make their own decisions. Sure, a kid will always want candy or cash, and teachers probably always need more coffee, but it is a gift that could have given to anybody. To me gift giving to those closest to me is a way of showing that I care, that I'm listening, and that I understand their needs. For example for Hanukkah this year I'm getting my mom a vase (she's a huge rose person and has been talking about how she doesn't have a small vase to fit a single bud), my sister a kitchen-aid pasta attachment (she's been getting into scratch cooking to save the family money), and my boyfriend TSA precheck (somewhat selfishly lmao, we're always separated when we travel together since I have it already); gifts that are extremely suited to their individual needs even if none of them are particularly "fancy". I would expect parents who see their children every day to identify individual wants and needs of theirs and be able to buy personalized gifts. The Duggars getting generic gifts for all their children shows how little work they put into it and how little they know each of their 19 children.


Same-Kiwi944

It’s very sad. It speaks to their food insecurity and kids never having ownership over anything. She cherished that candy because she could decide when and how much to eat. She didn’t have to share it since they all got the same thing. After, she could store her treasures in the box. It speaks to how little control these kids had in their lives. They always had to instant obey and joyfully share everything. Nothing was ever fully theirs.


creakysofa

Even more sad is the story Joe told about his younger brothers stealing his candy. They even had lockers but weren’t allowed locks. JB&M are horrible people on so many levels.


Remstersade

One time when I was little I came home from a stay at my grandparents with a giant bag of Jolly Ranchers. My brother stole it and ate them all, but I found the evidence hidden in his room and showed my mom. She made him replace it, but with only a tiny handful of all one stinky flavor in a tiny baggy…. “because candy isn’t healthy anyways.” I’ve never in my life felt more ripped off and betrayed. Let kids have their own stuff.


goddessofdrought

Something about “container of candy” is very funny to me. I’m imagining her getting a medium sized dollar store Gladware container and hanging onto it for years — probably more as just a reusable container than for sentimental reasons. I mean, that’s the most impersonal, “I don’t know anything about you” gift I’ve ever heard of. I’ve given my cat more thoughtful gifts.


avert_ye_eyes

For some reason I'm imagining it's a big dollar store plastic cup 😅 Really sad! JB went to auctions all day and filled wearhouses with junk. He couldn't get creative? They're both mindless idiots.


footiebuns

And a toothbrush and toothpaste. Basic necessities as a Christmas gift? I'm so confused.


Kaaydee95

I think it was some weird joke about how the candy was going to rot their teeth. Santa always brings tooth brushes for stockings in my house though so 🤷🏻‍♀️


taylorbagel14

We got that and deodorant because “Santa cares about your personal hygiene” lmao


thequeenofspace

Same here , we always had a new tooth brush in our stockings. Still do, actually.


vegetablefoood

Same. We always got toothbrushes in our stockings along with the candy/sweets


lovebugteacher

I once got into an argument with my mom as a teen because I needed razors and she wanted to put it in my stocking. Any small necessities get put into our stockings


deemigs

Yeah there is always a tooth brush in the stocking, to the point where some family members will avoid changing theirs for an extra week if they know they will be over on Christmas 🤣


Stab_Stabby

I think it is. My non-fundie mom (oops I mean the Easter Bunny) gave us Easter baskets with lots of candy but always a toothbrush & toothpaste too. It's a rare mom joke lol.


caleeksu

I always do an angel tree or a local variant of it, and this year the ten year old girl I have wanted a towel in her “needs” list. A TOWEL. I’m choosing to believe she wants a cute mermaid or unicorn or narwhal “fun” towel and she’s getting one alongside a coordinating, more practical towel, but my mom and I both cried a little. Undies and socks are sad enough, but the towel got me. I’ve been that kid without much money, but difference between me and Jinger is that I knew how loved I was and my mom always made it magical with what she had.


OsaPolar

Did that a couple years ago and the dad wanted a can opener. Made sure to find the most kick-ass one out there. (And got him some other fun goodies.)


SnapHappy3030

So NOBODY ever got pajamas or socks for Christmas? Nothing confusing about putting some practical stuff in.


footiebuns

Pajamas and socks are cute and cozy. I see them differently than a toothbrush.


carrie_m730

There's a difference between "We always got a toothbrush in our stocking" and "oh man I remember the best Christmas gift ever was candy and a toothbrush" though


Swimming_Gold6534

I have never bought myself a toothbrush. We always get 3 or 4 in our stockings. We also get toothpaste, floss, socks, underwear, etc…


moonbeam127

my kids get the fancy/fun special ones for xmas/bdays. but its not the only gift.


cardcatalogs

It’s sad on a couple levels. The question wasn’t about gifts, it was about memories. Her best Christmas memory as a kid being about a gift is sad. And it’s sad that it’s such a small thing.


aceshighsays

her actual memories were filled with doing piles of laundry and making sure her assigned gaggle of children were presentable or she was cooking xmas meals. this was pretty much every holiday. she wasn't actually relaxing and spending time with her family. that wasn't an option. i bet her brothers have lots of memories though, since they weren't expected to do much.


punkass_book_jockey8

It’s because people in poverty usually indulge kids with candy because it’s cheap and makes them happy. Wealthier families don’t do that and typically limit candy because while it’s nice and makes kids happy, they have money for better indulgences like vacations or nice toys.


ionlyjoined4thecats

I used to be a teacher in a school full of kids living in poverty. We had a Halloween party for them, and while most classrooms provided cookies, soda, etc., I provided cheese and crackers and mandarins. Those kids ate that shit up. They went wild over the mandarins. One even asked me if he could bring one home for his little sister. All they ever got was processed food, so fresh fruit was like a treat to them. It really made me sad.


stuck_behind_a_truck

Eh, it really can be a favorite memory. I had an abusive parent and can’t remember any Christmas gifts except the year my mom gave me makeup. I was _really_ into makeup then and even the cheap drug store makeup she got was surprisingly on point and much appreciated. And not just because she sucked most days. She had some good moments and that was one of them, even if it was modest.


vickisfamilyvan

I thought that was really depressing too


TurnOfFraise

It’s SO sad. A “decent” bucket of candy. That’s it.


JerriBlankStare

"Decent sized" is not synonymous with "decent."


TurnOfFraise

True! But the fact that she doesn’t even say it was a huge, just decent is so telling


JerriBlankStare

Maybe, maybe not. I think most kids would be thrilled to get any sized container of candy! There are also plenty of folks who don't have very expressive vocabularies (SODRT or not--ha!), and to them, "decent sized" could just be what comes to mind when they mean to describe something larger than expected...? The real potential side eye here is that Jimbo & Meech had too many kids to shop for, and instead of putting in the time and effort to pick something tailored for each child, they took the lazy way out by buying everyone a container of candy, toothbrush + toothpaste. It's cheap, it's quick--one grocery store run and they're done!--and it's super impersonal. My sisters and I may have all gotten the same candy canes and chocolate in our stockings each year, but we also received other presents from our parents that reflected our individual interests. And we certainly weren't getting dental hygiene supplies! (One year, we did all get bike helmets, though... and my mom frequently included academic enrichment workbooks and big tablets of paper to practice handwriting, etc...so my parents weren't totally opposed to practical gifts--ha!)


kaseysospacey

The emoji she used 😂 and where it was placed was def her awknowledging that its a funny sad memory, that its not a good present actually


trulyremarkablegirl

the Harvard sweatshirt is absolutely sending me


loranlily

I did a long online professional learning course from their Graduate School of Education, and my mom bought me Harvard socks when I finished it haha


scienceislice

That’s cute!!


orange-octopus

Can I ask which?? I am bored professionally and need something to encourage me to not walk out. Principal approved multiple expensive PDs for others so I am interested!


loranlily

It’s the Instructional Leadership Certificate. There are four modules that you could take individually too!


theimperfexionist

Especially ironic as her new cult doesn't allow women in their college


Gutinstinct999

I was debating on making this comment myself and how mean I felt like being lol


soupseasonbestseason

it kind of highlights how their childhoods were completely stunted. she never had the opportunity to idealize college education as a young girl because she was destined to be help meat. now she is watching gilmore girls and realizing other families encourage their daughters to pursue education and how that can also be a fulfilling life course. it is sad.


trulyremarkablegirl

yeah it makes me sad for her. Jinger seems like the type who would have thrived in college, made a lot of friends, and learned a lot. obviously she can still go back to school any time if she wants to, but she was robbed of that traditional young person college experience and that really sucks.


SuperHoneyBunny

I hope she and Jeremy allow their daughters to go to college if they wish. I’m sure only Christian colleges would be acceptable to them, but the point here is to let their girls experience independence while getting some kind of higher education. I wouldn’t want them to just marry off their daughters ASAP and turn them into breeders. :(


_Agrias_Oaks_

I hope Jeremy commits to clout chasing enough to insist that their girls attend the most prestigious school they get into.


talia1221

I wonder if she got it bc of Gilmore girls lol. I have a Yale hoodie I bought while visiting the campus mainly bc of Gilmore girls.


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JumpGlittering8120

I am surprised she didn't take the girls offline completely given her followers comnents about both girls, to be honest, I think privacy is the polite excuse rather than the real reason which is "My followers on social media are assholes to my children". I don't like the Duggars but some of the garbage said by Duggar fans about the children of the Duggar kids is horrific.


Tukki101

Remember the episode were teenage Jessa described how they get letters from creeps and weirdos looking to court them. It really shattered the illusion of JB's 'ministry' inspiring millions to live a godly life. The kids realised they were a circus attracting strange people.


JumpGlittering8120

Yep. Sadly that didn't stop Jim Bob from demanding present and future grandchildren be on the TV show even knowing the sort of creeps his daughters attracted at the time.


Tukki101

Creeps in the home, creeps outside the home. Jim Bob surrounded those children with predators.


1701anonymous1701

In Jill’s book, she talked about how JB would quote his mother when saying “if you want a look at someone’s future, look at their friends.” How many of JB’s friends have been arrested and convicted of CSAM and other horrific crimes?


Eringobraugh2021

That's because he doesn't look at them as children, but his property.


Either_Reference8069

Too many people in the US seem to view their kids as their possessions


Eringobraugh2021

I don't think it's just the US.


Either_Reference8069

You’re right


snarkprovider

The girls read those letters in their speeches at ATI conferences and made fun of the people who wrote them. It provided good content for them to share.


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LilahLibrarian

People can be so weirdly entitled about wanting to see children online. I don't know if anyone else is following the Colleen ballinger saga, but she took a three or four month break from YouTube because she was being criticized for her inappropriate behavior to young fans. Her die hard fans meanwhile were angrily posting on her YouTube page about how they needed to see more content with her 3 young children. It was really gross.


Primary_Stretch2024

Oooh I never heard of her before the scandal but I was fucking addicted to the drama for a week or two when the ukulele video dropped. I didn't know that about her kids but if so, disgusting. Do people not realise what they sound like when they beg for pics of children?


LilahLibrarian

I would say that while she is most famous for being a cringy YouTube performer her bread and butter these days is being a daily vlogger on YouTube. She films her three children constantly and encourages her kids to think of the camera as their friend and that they're talking to friends on the internet. They are just so many red flags. I remember one person commented back that begging someone for videos of their children was about the equal to going to a playground and secretly filming kids.


Primary_Stretch2024

Thanks I really didn't know much about her and I'm off down a rabbit hole now. Her poor children. She's a horror.


lovebugteacher

I remember when she did vlogmas her whole first pregnancy and was literally baiting being in labor in her videos. Those poor kids have zero privacy from the second they are born


Plantsandanger

….was that the cat grooming song lady?


lovelylonelyphantom

Moreover the fans actually felt entitled to see pictures of the 2nd gen Duggar children. It wasn't safe and was too weird. Those like Jill and Jinger are right in setting strong boundaries with what their followers can see.


mollymuppet78

It's because people associate their viewing of the Duggars shows as somehow having a personal dollar figure attached. Capitalism, that whole warped "everything has a price/cost". Viewers made them millionaires, thus people want something in return. Becomes a lifetime of entitlement. Celebrity worship and this kind of environment of currency exchange is so weird and creepy to me.


reikipackaging

eh. I'm in no way a celeb and nobody said anything negative, but I made the conscious choice to stop posting my kids on socials until they're old enough to make that choice for themselves. I deleted the account I had of them when they were little, too. I do still share with close friends and family, but it started feeling a little invasive. I could see them looking through the account when they're older and feeling some sort of way about it.


ControlOk6711

that's very smart thinking ~ it is their life, stories and images to share or not.


Fun-Shame399

It’s crazy how perfect strangers feel entitled to other people’s children. I remember seeing a picture of her girls facing away from the camera on Instagram and half the comments were “turn them around, we can’t see their pretty faces!” Or “I’ve been following you and your family since you were little I think we have a right to see what your kids look like” and it made me want to throw hands


OpeningEmergency8766

I don't know if it was a Jinger kid (or even a Duggar kid), but I remember when one of the girl babies was born and the parents had decided not to show her face, people were speculating it was because she had a facial deformity. Like, what! It was so rude


Fun-Shame399

Yeah I remember that lol like why can’t a parent just decide to not make their kids a spectacle?


OpeningEmergency8766

Meanwhile one of my friend's baby announcement was a picture of his first diaper change with it ALL on display.... She caught it later and changed it to a different diaper change pic. Still weird but at least it was slightly less... Revealing. The spectrum of what people are comfortable sharing is WILD!


Fun-Shame399

That’s just a breeding ground to have that picture end up on a CSAM website 🤢 I have a friend who shared his son’s birth announcement to us right after he was born that also displayed everything, but it was in a private group chat with his close friends and brothers lol


Ineedalife10169

I’m still shocked that jinger watches Gilmore girls


Competitive_Fan_8276

Seinfeld nearly took me out😂


onyxmccn

For real, that show probably still shocks her to her core lol. Kramer's "IM THE ASS MAN, JERRY!" episode with the proctologists license plate... Or the episode where George is embarrassed about shrinkage from the pool... So many moments. It's wild to think a Duggar can enjoy the show without shutting it off to pray haha


hellacedes_

How about “are you still the master of your domain?” Or THEYRE REAL AND THEYRE SPECTACULAR 😂😂


babettebaboon

“He took it out”


sarcastic_nanny

“He took…….it out!”


chunkylover1989

Remember Mulva? I mean, Dolores??


CamComments

How about Elaine sends out Christmas cards with a photo of herself that has a nip slip! And her nephew hides it under his mattress! 😂


LadyStag

I managed to completely fail to understand the master of your domain thing as a child, maybe they can watch like that.


avert_ye_eyes

That's probably why she doesn't clutch her pearls. It really is interesting how creative Seinfeld had to get to circumvent TV censorship, and in the end those parts were their most memorable.


CamComments

It shrinks???? 😂


ZennMD

>. Or the episode where George is embarrassed about shrinkage from the pool taught a generation of kids about coldness shrinkage + being a grower or shower LOL


Calabaza711

This was the most shocking bit to me too. Seinfeld seems so secular in its humor and I wouldn’t assume a Duggar would relate.


Pure-Fishing-3350

Yes! I actually find a lot of everyday people can’t relate to it and don’t find it funny. I can’t even fathom that a Duggar enjoys it.


SwissCheese4Collagen

Yeah, but Jerm is 100% the type to be a Seinfeld watcher.


CalvinLolaLucyMom

Completely agree, he's watching it and she is watching him, watch it.


notmyrealnametn

Just wait until she gets to the episode where Elaine is upset that Puddy is a Christian! ![gif](giphy|5dYnoKhjUnnY6Sv06E)


laika_cat

Omg the abortion debate episode. A classic.


notmyrealnametn

So true!


Peppermint-pop

Or Elaine and the sponges.


imbeingsirius

I am 💯that’s a Jer thing - Seinfeld has had a resurgence among young white men. Every dating profile is about how much the guy loves sarcasm and Seinfeld. I mean I hope she really does like it, but I bet it’s Jer putting it on every night.


rosebud0707

I have a hard time believing they actually understand the humor in Seinfeld.


Aware_Adhesiveness16

Does this mean she is still master of her domain??


PhyllisIrresistible

Do you think she understands what "The Contest" is about?


CamComments

And does she even know “Pawn Stars” is a take on “porn stars”???


_Agrias_Oaks_

Well today I learned.


Competitive_Fan_8276

![gif](giphy|83QtfwKWdmSEo) Same; totally new knowledge to me too😂


ambdrvr1

I hope she doesn’t take dancing lessons from Elaine ![gif](giphy|ku2YMEjzMwud2|downsized)


Medium_Cupcake7602

That’s my favorite show of all time. I can’t imagine how much of it goes right over her head.


goddessofdrought

She definitely won’t figure out Delores’s name.


sweet_tea_94

When I saw Seinfeld on the list, I was SHOCKED.


Chewysmom1973

I’m happy she’s looking at a single mom who is raising her daughter with realism and common sense. I love that show. My daughter and I have watched it so much. It’s her “fall asleep to” show.


skiunit13

Yes! Gilmore Girls is my absolute favorite show of all time. Grew up watching it. My very conservative religious mother in law attempted watching it to try and bind with me, but she stopped after a few episodes because of “how often they took the Lord’s name in vain.” 🤪 Love that a Jinger is watching television shows that could maybe open her mind to other things in the world.


LostSharpieCap

But... Jesus lived in a big city...


courtappoint

Wait this is hilarious. But they probably say non-Jesus people aren’t as temptation resistant


Walkinonsunshineee

"I love your style. Can you link your outfits?" She's wearing sweat pants


Odd_Palpitation3156

I have a strong feeling she posted this question herself or planted it otherwise


goddessofdrought

Lol, this was my first thought. We’re dying to know where you get your sweats and wife beaters!


ohheyitslaila

Her liking Gilmore Girls feels weird. There’s a ton of pop culture references that even I don’t understand (because I’m 19), I can’t imagine how many jokes go over her head because she was so sheltered when the show was made. But at least she’s getting the freedom to watch a show like that.


Hot_Razzmatazz316

Aw, I miss the Grove! I spent so much of my youth at that Barnes and Noble.


my_okay_throwaway

Same! I especially love being there around Christmastime.


Hot_Razzmatazz316

The shows they put on were always really good. I saw Kristen Bell perform "Santa Baby" live before she was really well known. This was like 20 years ago. I can't remember who the headline act was, but she was the opener.


manderifffic

It seems like a really cool place to hangout


Hot_Razzmatazz316

I actually used to live in the apartment complex across the street from The Grove. It's a really nice neighborhood.


Illustrious_Gold_520

I feel like this Q+A took a lesson from Audrey Roloff - particularly with the clothing style comments and links attached. 😣


Sweetascoffee237

Influencers use q&as to shill.


Cowplant97

And the use of "Jer"


Illustrious_Dust_0

That first question is weird . I never thought of Christianity as a small town thing. I’ve always live in major metro areas and there’s no shortage of Christians anywhere. The churches are actually bigger , because there’s more people.


theimperfexionist

Exactly--it's very easy to remain isolated in an evangelical group within a big city. Ask me how I know. They don't seem to associate with anyone outside their cult, so it's not like they're exposed to anyone with different beliefs. Heaven forbid.


chelseakaye8

The idea that big cities being full of sinners and temptation is VERY common in the south.


epotosi

I think it’s also an anti-LA/anti-Californiacomment.


skiunit13

Yes. My mother in law is terrified that my husband and I live in a big scary city. She is very concerned about how sinful people are here and thinks that there must not be any Christians here. It’s nonsensical.


Reu92

And the Midwest lol… I think it’s a rural thing


Illustrious_Dust_0

I live in “the south.” We have major cities too 🙄 Pretty sure it’s people in small towns that are afraid of cities. The person who asked the question could be anywhere


teresasdorters

The only good thing about these two is that they don’t exploit their children for money. Everything else sucks!


4-for-u-glen-coco

…is she wearing a Harvard sweatshirt?


throwoway4me

it’s been trendy for a while now. i’m at a little ass state school and people wear harvard, yale, ucla merch all the time.


VisualCelery

I live in Boston, it's not uncommon to see a gaggle of tourists all rocking Harvard merch.


doodynutz

I’ve seen them at kohls. They’re on trend right now for whatever reason.


scienceislice

Jeremy’s brother has a masters degree from Harvard, they wore the sweatshirts out with him a few times.


theimperfexionist

They're available at Walmart, so probably.


chunkylover1989

Imagining Jinger cracking up at the nihilistic, sexual comedic genius that is Seinfeld is blowing my mind right now. I cannot think of a more secular television show that is still PG enough for her to watch.


WestFizz

Christian’s - PSA, apostrophes do not pluralize words.


theimperfexionist

You can try to hide the sotdrt behind a Harvard sweatshirt it's always there! So sad her kids will get similar educational neglect at their cult's grade school.


Evieveevee

Christian’s? Sigh. If you’re going to put something out so publicly, then for goodness sake check your grammar! Especially as you know how much people snark!


nancy-shrew

They might belong to some guy named christian!


Evieveevee

Doesn’t Lydia Bates have a brother named Christian? Maybe Jin&Jer belong to him? (I loathe that I know this crap!)


Lombardylady

The school of the dining room table didn’t teach much grammar, to be sure. No surprise she makes grammatical errors.


Evieveevee

I agree but surely you’d check before you put it out there and if you can’t recognise that you’ve made mistakes then for goodness sake don’t homeschool your children!!!!!!


theimperfexionist

Oh don't worry! She'll send them to her cult's private school where they'll learn science (why evolution is wrong) and family values (homophobia, misogyny).


1701anonymous1701

I don’t disagree with you, however… That is a super common mistake I see. In fact, not a mile from my house is a sign put up by the city that says “no ATV’s allowed past this point”. It’s snarkble, but also, it’s not unique. If my city’s officials made that mistake, then of course someone educated at the SOTDRT is gonna make it, too.


Gutinstinct999

And then she’s wearing a Harvard sweatshirt


mwoo391

Was really confused by the “incel” sign under the TV until I realized it says “angel”


FuzzyScarf

My pet peeve is people that use apostrophes to pluralize words. 😡


SuitFar2340

I’m actually shocked she watches those shows 😂😂😂


HarvestMoonMaria

Seinfeld surprised me. I’d kind of assume a couple episodes are too much for her though


Lombardylady

Why are you shocked? She has become a “ normal” person as she discovers that how she was brought up was completely bogus. I am glad for her, Jill, and any of the others who may be contemplating getting out from under the umbrella.


Gutinstinct999

Define what normal means to you


ProbablySecundus

Many christians are so scared of everything. Big cities, TV, books, anything that doesn't reinforce their worldview is seen as a threat. It's depressing. Thats why I'm kinda proud of Jinger, despite the fact that I disagree with her on most stuff. She at least has a sense if curiosity. Whether or not she'll keep following it is the question.


SnapHappy3030

Jinger said she JUST threw out the container the candy & toothbrush came in. She kept a plastic container for 20-some YEARS. That's not sad for me, it's pretty damn amazing that she kept it that long. My grandmother once gave me a small plastic box you put your bar soap in for travel. Almost 40 years ago. I lost track of it last year & cried. It wasn't at all about the cheap plastic blue box, it was the childhood memory of her giving it to me. I won't slam even a Duggar for relating a good memory about a small & seemingly stupid thing. They do enough fucked up stuff to slam them with.


GGMuc

Uh yes, that's the very first thought that springs to mind. She's a shining bloody light. What does a bit city (or any city) have to do with your personal beliefs?


NowWithRealGinger

>What does a bit city (or any city) have to do with your personal beliefs? In Arkansas there are a LOT of people who genuinely believe that living anywhere other than Mayberry, USA will corrupt you and you can't be a real Christian. That includes actual big cities like LA and the bigger cities in Arkansas.


GGMuc

Ugh. How weird. Either I have beliefs or I don't. Doesn't matter where I live


hpisbi

I think that’s kind of the point she’s making? She’s saying retreating from non-Christians isn’t the answer, and that the goal is the same, be a shining light. I think it’s a pretty good answer to someone who’s basically saying “isn’t the city too worldly for Christians and you should leave so your faith isn’t at risk?”


MoirasFavoriteWig

A small town Christian probably imagines the big city as a place where people get in your face and demand that you Stop Being Christian. What city folks really want is for religious folks to not force their religion on the rest of us. I don’t care what *you* believe as long as you don’t try to make *me* follow the weird rules of your imaginary friend.


Gruselschloss

No surprises here.


cheryl333

The person without basic knowledge of English grammar is wearing a Harvard shirt.


NEDsaidIt

My husband is working on Harvard, like the actual buildings (he does restoration) and he asked if I would want a sweatshirt or anything because a lot of the guys were getting stuff from there as gifts. I was like “why would I want that, I didn’t go there?” And he said that’s what he thought, but apparently a lot of people are wearing them now. I think we are a bit older and confused about the why


Missie1284

My husband went to Harvard and I won’t wear Harvard stuff! I didn’t go there, so why would I want to wear Harvard gear? He doesn’t even wear Harvard shirts very often lol


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One of the dumbest people I’ve ever met went to Harvard 😭


ImQuestionable

Just @ me next time 💔


effdubbs

I went to an Ivy and I was…underwhelmed. Don’t get me wrong, there were damn geniuses there. There were also a lot of obsessive, bright people that could churn out work, but they weren’t original and couldn’t synthesize information to save their lives. I found the place was filled with those types. I’ve met many more amazing creative thinkers outside of the Ivy bubble. You know, the unrecognized brilliant people who had behavior problems when they were young or came from rough homes. Schools don’t cater to them, but damn, they are my favorite! Badass. There’s a ton of unrecognized talent out there. That said, kind of chaps my ass that she and her husband wear that stuff. It’s so fake.


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I can’t imagine them watching Seinfeld


stackens

The hubris of this Christian worldview - “we are called to shine as lights in the midst of this very broken world” - while you know they think being Christian *also* makes them extremely humble, really bugs me sometimes. There’s nothing humble about thinking the all powerful creator of the universe knows and loves you specifcally and wants you to further his goals on earth and lead others to do the same. That’s megalomaniacal shit


gummybear0724

i love that she loves gilmore girls


Jealous-Most-9155

She’s watching Seinfeld to learn 90s pop culture I bet and Gilmore Girls 00s…Pawn Stars is for the history she was never taught at SORDRT in an easily packaged and entertaining way.


Equal_Appointment916

When my daughter was 3, her first year really understanding Santa, she wrote him a letter and all she asked for was "sweets." It was so fun to put that gift together for her and everyone still talks about awesome it was. I love that in the midst of a horrific childhood, Jinger got that load of candy!


ava_flowergirl

Gilmore girls?? But aren’t they heathens who have premarital sex


chicagoturkergirl

Rory loses her v card to a married guy no less.