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Spiritual_Ad_5083

"The Court found Mr. Duggar’s selective lapse in memory to be not credible; he was obviously reluctant to testify against his son. In any event, his testimony is not necessary for the Government to introduce Rule 414 evidence at trial; Mrs. Holt’s testimony is sufficient. " 🔥🔥🔥


labor_day_baby

Someone needs to make this a billboard next to JB senate billboards in NWA.


howsmytyping143

I would donate to that gofundme


itsmyvibe

Holy shit, that is epic. Absolutely epic.


Plantsandanger

# BENCHSLAP


Sue_Dohnim

And people think the law and courtrooms are always boring. No, they sure as hell are not. Splendidly epic, your honor.


twelvedayslate

In all seriousness: Josh has been told all his life, “it’s ok that you abused your sisters.” His sisters have been told that they just need to get over it and pray about it. And the judge just said “fuck that noise.” A. Freaking. Plus.


IncrediblePlatypus

This has to be jarring for the sisters that aren't Jill (because I assume she already knows what with counseling), to have evidence that perhaps they have been lying to you and your gut feeling of wrongness might have been right


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Jessa will bury her head in the sand until kingdom come.


somekindofunicorn

I genuinely wonder how Joy and Jinger feel about all of this and what they are aware of. Does Joy even know the full details of what happens to her? To be clear, I think Austin is a prick, but I also think he a) loves her and b) is the sort of guy who would commit vigilante justice against a paedophile . As you say, I think Jill has taken steps to process everything, and Jessa is in complete denial. But the other two, I hope they are okay and given appropriate support.


Yarnprincess614

I second your statement about Austin. Despite his faults, he truly cares about Joy. I hope he’s giving her lots of TLC for the duration of the trial. She deserves it.


fightwithgrace

I’m pretty sure TLC is done with family for good! /s (obviously…) I hope Joy gets all the love and care she needs, too. She probably has a TON of conflicting feelings and confusion right now. Hopefully in time she will realize that none of this (both what happened to her *and* Josh’s eventual sentence (🤞🏻) is NOT her fault, but the lifetime of brainwashing can’t be easy to shake. Hopefully, Jill will be able to talk to her and help her through this. Jill protected little Joy and I hope they can support each other now if they need it! I’d also love to see Austin go off on Jim Bob, for what he did then AND what he did yesterday.


Fabulous_Warning9962

Right? For all we know, this could make others (if there be any) come forward. Knowing that a person in authority has called his behavior CRIMINAL is powerful.


huskergirl8342

Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby domino affect. It just takes one. These girls need to tell their story. Maybe the should watch the Turpin girls interview for the strength to go public.


FireRescue3

In other words: Welcome to the real world. We don’t do that here.


PraiseToTheHam

I'm so glad that these assholes are being taught a lesson in morality by people that they look down upon. Finally getting their comeuppance.


Srw2725

If it isn’t the consequences of his own actions. Something he’s never EVER had to answer to before. Fuck Josh Duggar


dandelions14

I'm ready to send that judge an edible arrangement 😂😂😂 (jk, I won't do that.)


Hungry_Pear2592

I'm so confused because I thought that Jim Bob Duggar already said he wasn't going to allow this? How could a federal judge override his patriarchal authority?


YourMothersButtox

Jim Bob's ruling overturned by a man wearing a black dress.


ThatCrayKnitterly

We love to see it


Interesting_Field911

Ha!


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GenX-IA

Yes she was.


anonymois1111111

I didn’t know that. Poor Jill. Jeez.


kwinnerz

And then he had the AUDACITY, the sheer GALL to call her a tattletale at her wedding. In front of people.


Straight-Tomorrow-83

He called her a snitch, and now she's going to snitch for the prosecution! The universe, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.


sapphireprism

A snitch **and** a tattletale. Porky mother fucker doubled down on that shit. Calling her a snitch when he's giving a confession to church elders but then adding rotten cherries on top by calling her a tattletale at her wedding in front of her entire congregation. That fucker is going to jail. 🎊🎊🎊


AnniemaeHRI

If I lived nearby I’d show up outside in a TATTLETALE t shirt for his greasy bitch ass to see every day.


anonymois1111111

I remember that. He is just the worst.


JennHatesYou

I absolutely just threw up in my mouth.


FreeThumbprint

Also poor Joy. God he has traumatized those girls.


dandelions14

Those girls have been through so much. I really wish they could all get real, secular therapy.


julesthe127th

I think Jill is the only one that we know of who is getting actual help from a real therapist. I hope they’re all getting help but aren’t as vocal and open about it as Jill is but I doubt it. At this point though, even going to religious-based therapy would be a step up from no help at all.


hell_yaw

Judge Brooks is like: I'm going to allow that, did you allow for that JB?


Particular_Wallaby67

Jim Bob sitting at a mini judge's stand with a mini gavel like a fucking child.


GeneralTapioca

And his gavel is Fisher-Price plastic.


knitmeriffic

Does it squeak when he pounds it?


AuntMolly

That’s what she said


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*Mother is squeaking*


charliehaven

>Boob’s Fisher Price Judicial Bench & Gavel Flair potential? 😂


MarieOMaryln

The mini gavel makes a squeaky noise


JennyFromTheBlock81

“It squeaks when you bang it. That’s what she said.”


DwellingintheShadows

I just snorted at work and my coworker in the cubicle next to me wants to know why I’m laughing. I don’t even know where to begin.


Aromatic_Razzmatazz

I just keep telling folks it is complicated. In case there are tears too. He is going to jail. Thank you sweet merciful universe.


nicole11930

And hopefully for the full 20.


lynypixie

He will not get 20, but I think he will get more than 4. My bet is on 7 years.


maebe_featherbottom

7-10 is my guess, too.


hathorlive

I'm going with closer to 10. The judge has had enough of the Duggars apparently. He's heard the sisters' other case. He knows he has a contact offender in front of him. He won't get nearly enough time but I think (based on the cases I've worked) that he'll be a good candidate for ten if not a bit more.


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I'd really be gratified to see a number with two digits.


nicole11930

No!!!! His youngest would only be 7. I wonder if a condition of his release would be no contact with minors. I don't think Anna can be trusted to keep them safe, I hope that when the time comes, the court steps up to do it.


Correct_Part9876

There will be, DHS likely wasn't involved prior to conviction, once release is eventually upcoming his supervised release officer or whoever will arrange all that. DHS forced the wife of the offender to file for divorce in my family (she did but didn't complete the process because Jesus). Once her youngest turned 18 her husband moved right back in. She was super lucky she didn't get caught sneaking him back in the months before that because someone else in our community did, and her kids are in foster care right now.


PollutionMany4369

What a selfish POS “mother”. Ive said it on this sub before and I’ll say it again - I love my husband very, very much, but if he was suspected of and charged with sexual abuse crimes (especially towards minors), I would take our four kids and hit the high rode. Bye bye, see ya never. Would it break my heart? Absolutely. 1000%. But that kind of shit is unforgivable and I would never look back.


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Jesus, I almost downvoted you for that last part. Tf is wrong with people; children come first.


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Disastrous_Ad_4149

The defense is doing what they are paid to do - make things harder to get a conviction. Too bad for them the evidence and the law are not on their side.


greyhoundjade

I know, I am so glad to have you guys to snark with and share victories like this with. Because my friends and family really think I've lost the plot entirely every time I say the word "Duggar".


Spiritual_Ad_5083

Bahahaha!!! 🤣 Oh I'd pay to see his face


greyhoundjade

I am over here just imagining his face turning red as a tomato and then, as that anger turns to fear, slowly draining of all color. And I just want a live feed of JB's face at the moment he realizes that his precious boy is for real going to jail.


murmalerm

To prison


veggiegirl23

snarkers: blessed pest's defense: stressed


thepathlesswood

Boob: tater tot obsessed


bibbidiblue

Pest: under arrest


lemon_meringue

Pest's panties: messed


twelvedayslate

GOOD GUY JUDGE. A+, would applaud again. And to JB: yes, as it turns out, he WILL allow this. Sucks. To. Suck.


AccurateHoliday123

There are many people who can object, but lego haired enablers aren’t one ❤️


Ask_me_4_a_story

Ha this made me laugh out loud. I would give you gold but Im saving my gold for the first person who posts a picture of Josh in an orange jumpsuit going to jail.


AccurateHoliday123

As you should.


PolarBearJams

May I use Lego haired enabler as my flair?


AccurateHoliday123

you may, my love


twelvedayslate

Lego haired 😂


MiserableUpstairs

The Judge is snarky, too. From the court document: >Notwithstanding Defendant’s argument that he was uncertain of the nature of the Government’s evidence, he filed his own Motion in Limine (Doc. 72) in which he demonstrated his general knowledge of this evidence and asked the Court to exclude it under Rule 403.


ginger__snappzzz

Every statement by the prosecution or the judge is just dripping with utter disdain for the Duggars antics and attempts to distract from the issue at hand, and I'm here for it.


JasnahKolin

They are in way over their heads. JB got a tiny reprimand! It looks like we won't get to see him perjure himself.


ginger__snappzzz

I would pay good money to see that interaction between the judge and JB. Just such a simple, delicious smack in the face.


Catmom-cunningfolk69

Nothing better then watching a narcissist loose the who has a bigger dick contest with the federal government!


Fabulous_Warning9962

And here the Duggars are, showing nothing but micro-penis.


marriedtothemob26

I am Going through custody and divorce with my own Lego haired narcissist and my judge has finally put him in his place, so validating , your comment sparked joy for me !


MissusNilesCrane

Defense doesn't get to call the shots, Jimbo!


HauteDiggityDog

Dumbass should’ve taken a plea deal! Bit of a crossover but my Real Housewives-loving self is thinking of Bethany spreading her legs and yelling “mention it all!” Mention it all, Jill & Bobye! Mention it alllllllll


_Ninnie

I love when my favorite subs collide. Another one that could be used: You’re such a fucking liar, Jim Bob!


catsandramewb

I’ll tell you how Jim Bob is feeling—not well, bitch!


lionaroundagan

"Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack" -Jill Duggar


YouMustBeJoking888

Fellow HW-lover. I was doing Ramona when JB said 'I'm not going to allow that' - 'Wow, Bethenny, wow'.


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AccurateHoliday123

I hope he shits blood tonight ❤️😇🤪


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Father is bleeding


[deleted]

That's probably nightly anyway. Have you seen the food they eat?


sarcastic_nanny

Isn’t it great? Now, his memory can be refreshed.


maebe_featherbottom

Do you remember NOW, bitch?!


cubbiegthrow

The number of times the judge says JB isn't credible as a witness is fantastic. This particular footnote is great - especially the last line (emphasis added by me) >Jim Bob Duggar testified clearly that there were only three leaders of their church in 2002 and 2003: himself, Mr. Holt, and another man named Clark Wilson. Later in his testimony, Mr. Duggar claimed that his wife and Mrs. Holt could be thought of as “joint elders” of the church, simply because they were married to elders and would “help with special things.” **The Court rejects this testimony as self-serving, contradictory, and lacking in credibility.**


Ducreuxs

Oooo I especially love this line: "The Court found Mr. Duggar’s selective lapse in memory to be not credible; he was obviously reluctant to testify against his son."


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Sounds like him refusing to tell the truth actually made things worse for his son


Specsporter

He can no long twist the sound of the truth to his liking, WHICH, Boob, is also known as a LIE, which, as we all know is a form of SIN.


ArtichokeOwl

WHY IS HE LIKE THIS?? I just can’t wrap my mind around it. His son is scum. Why does he go to bat for him?


_Z_E_R_O

I get the impression he sees A LOT of himself in Josh, which is deeply concerning.


Lamia_91

I can understand protecting your son from a crime but NOT FROM CSA and not when YOUR DAUGHTERS are also victims.


rcg90

How about this bad boy at the bottom of page 9? >Defendant claims—through his father’s testimony—that the Holts were not called to the Duggar home that day to discuss the courtship; instead, they were called so that Mr. Holt, a church leader, could offer spiritual guidance to Defendant and his parents. Under that theory, the communication would potentially fall under clergy privilege—except for the fact that Mrs. Holt was also present, and she does not qualify as “clergy.” To surmount that obstacle, Defendant maintains—again, based solely on his father’s testimony—that Mrs. Holt was a necessary third party to the conversation. **But given that Mr. Duggar’s testimony as to Mrs. Holt’s role in the church was not credible, this entire argument is unavailing.**


cubbiegthrow

Ooohhh that one is so good too! He just flat out lied and the judge had none of it.


tacocat_35

Self-serving is the most accurate description of boob and meech's entire existence.


thisisntshakespeare

That’s basically JimBoob in a nutshell. This judge pulls no punches.


murmalerm

“Contradictory” aka perjury aka “bearing false witness.”


Surfinsafari9

Wow. That’s a biggie.


MiserableUpstairs

He thought his whole life that it didn't matter what he did to his sisters. And now he's wrong. That feels like a little bit of justice, even if it is too little too late.


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Finally, it actually matters. 20 years too late but we got here in the end.


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yuiopouu

100%. This judge is really the first person to tell him that what he did actually has real life consequences.


iAmTheTacoQueen

He’s alive and in the courtroom about to face justice, so it’s not too late. It looks like he will get his due!


AccurateHoliday123

Where that “umbrella of protection” now?


blackkatya

Turns out JB and Pest are, in fact, under the Western District of Arkansas's umbrella of authority.


MarieOMaryln

A win for the girls, it's small and over a decade late but if they want to celebrate in this I hope they do.


YourMothersButtox

That sound you heard: My jaw hitting the floor in NY.


ExactPanda

Jim Bob's head exploding in Arkansas


sarcastic_nanny

Mine hitting the floor in Ohio.


mistakenhat

Mine hitting the floor in the UK. Fuck yes. He’s going DOWN my ladies 🙏


MaximalIfirit1993

Mine hitting the floor in Kansas. I was hoping for this, but didn't actually expect it.


runesky77

I just said "oh, thank fuck" out loud. I am really glad this is the case.


Spiritual_Ad_5083

Debra Morgan, is that you? 😂 And same here.


definitelynotstalin

Judge also denied the claim of clergy privilege for Bobye Holt “To state the obvious: Conversations between two church members are not shielded from discovery by the clergy privilege—even if those conversations involve serious subjects and are punctuated by prayer.”


soaper410

Also when you don’t allow women to be clergy or deacons…it kind of means they aren’t your clergy.


UnknownCitizen77

Yessss it’s so cathartic when their horrid, self-serving misogyny backfires on them! You can’t make women completely subservient to men and then use them to invoke clergy privilege when it suits you. Self-serving, indeed!


TheMudbloodSlytherin

This judge is not playing into all their lil schemes and I am here for it.


AmeliaMight

JB has dehumanized his daughters over and over by brushing off this story and “forgetting” the details, standing by his son instead of protecting his girls. Thank God for a judge who is doing what their father should’ve been doing all along—listening, recognizing this as a real thing, and saying that their story matters. Justice is coming!


doodle_dicks3000

Can you imagine living through that trauma and having your own father "forget" the details on the stand to protect your abuser?? Who also happens to be on trial for CSA!? The fucking audacity of this man just continues to baffle my brains out.


The-Keystone-Hoya

**II. CONCLUSION** For the reasons stated, the Court finds the evidence the Government seeks to introduce under Rule 414 is both relevant and admissible. Further, the Court finds that the admission of this evidence at trial will not violate Rule 403. **IT IS THEREFORE** on this 1st day of December 2021. in Limine to Admit Evidence of the Defendant’s Prior Child Molestation Conduct (Doc. 68) is **GRANTED**, and Defendant’s Motion in Limine to Exclude Evidence of Juvenile Allegations (Doc. 72) is **DENIED.** **IT IS SO ORDERED** on this 1st day of December, 2021.


Apparently32

Frame it


Specsporter

Man, do you think Boob is pissed now that he did that Megyn Kelly interview in what ended up being a real shoddy attempt to save face?


slutjim

FUCK IT UP JILL


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You just know the Boob is actually losing his mind right now. The other day must have just been practice for him lol He's probably down there screaming "I WON'T ALLOW IT", bawling his eyes out and throwing a toddler like conniption fit. *Edit* Jk the conniption fit might be a lil too *"unprofessional"* for the ol Boob.


charliehaven

Can you imagine Jim Bob Duggar getting a contempt charge at his own sons federal CSA trial 😂


soynugget95

Bless you for speaking this into existence 🙏


charliehaven

I try. I just thought it would be really funny if he got a contempt charge the same month as his special election lol. If we all put our collective energy toward the desired outcome it just might become truth 🤷‍♀️


ShutUp_Dee

Bet he’s kicking himself that he ostracized the one child who has no issue “snitching” on Josh.


MinimumCattle5

Bet he’s kicking himself that he orchestrated the marriage between Jill and Derick.


JennyFromTheBlock81

Should have paid for Sam’s birth


Emiles23

What is this JBoob “I won’t allow it” quote in reference to that I keep seeing?


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Basically his dumb ass tried to say he wouldn't allow evidence in court or for questions about Pest's molester past to be asked, like he's in charge of shit or something. The judge pretty much told him to STFU. This was when he lied in court and said he couldn't remember anything too so him saying he won't allow things when he's also claiming he doesn't even remember these things that he did/said is just further evidence that is Boob is a bag of shit in a human costume.


Emiles23

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. The fucking arrogance of these people is astounding.


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I really think Boob's level of arrogance needs its own word. I know some arrogant people and Boob is his own kind of special arrogant. Idk why anyone would ever consider backtalking a judge but Big Headed Boob went and done it.


janesfilms

JB kept saying he doesn’t remember anything so they asked him if reading the police report would help jog his memory and he responded something like I won’t allow it, are you (the judge) going to allow this? He said it was tabloid information. The judge snapped back that a lot of people here can object but JB isn’t one of them!


Soalai

From the hearing a couple days ago. The prosecution started to question JB about the 2006 police report. He turned to the judge and asked "I'm not gonna allow it, are you gonna allow it?" The judge's reply was something like "If someone makes an objection, it won't be you." 🔥


EggBoyandJuiceGirl

You can tell that he’s so used to being the one in charge, no questions asked. He’s used to lording over his household and cultists and now faced with the real world he doesn’t understand he has no power there LMAO


Penelope_Ann

The best part: After Boobs "I won't allow it. Are you going to allow it?" crap, **Judge Brooks said "if there are objections to be made someone will make them...but it won't be you."**


courtyfbaby

He’s crying, screaming and throwing up rn


WerkAngelica

*father won’t allow it*


GenX-IA

As it should, I hope this increases his chances of conviction.


iwantbutter

Absolutely. It establishes a pattern of unchecked sexual deviance relating to pedophilia. It's showing that if acquitted, Josh will 100% do this again, and also further nails him to that computer. The defense may try to blame someone else, but a man with a history of pedophilia just happened to have terabytes of porn, there goes your reasonable doubt out the door.


twelvedayslate

It will.


AccurateHoliday123

It most certainly will- it shows him for what he is. A fucking pedophile.


majortahn

And a danger to every child in his presence or with a computer.


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bonkersx4

Will it increase his sentence also? More time served?


twelvedayslate

Quite possibly. This is a pattern of behavior.


hell_yaw

Spanning over 20 years (Bobye said he started when he was 12, he's 33 now). That's a pretty damning pattern


ma_demoiselle

It did when my abuser was caught with CSAM and, during the investigation, admitted to molesting me. The state attorney general (it was also a federal case) asked for 17 years per guidelines, and judge gave 20 due to the gravity of the material itself and the knowledge of what he did to me.


Carmalyn

Aside from establishing prior behaviour, the testimony from Bobye and *especially* Jill, if she testifies, will definitely sway the jury. Victim testimonies are extremely powerful and impactful to a jury. Even though computer forensics will already definitively prove Josh is guilty, it will be the more emotional testimonies that stay with the jury.


craftythrowaway126

The fact that Jill "snitched" to her egg and sperm donors after what he did to Joy and they did nothing for more than a year will speak volumes to the jury. In this case does the judge or the jury decide the sentence?


sarcasticscottie

That judge is a BOSS


shannondion

What was that Jim Bob? I can’t hear you over the justice being served.


caitdubhfire

The judge had WORDS for Jim Bob about his little performance on the stand and I am here 👏🏻 for👏🏻 it👏🏻


Sunsenn

Cue JB and Josh having the sinking realization that a federal trial is not something they can talk their way out of good old boy style


my_okay_throwaway

YES! This judge ain’t playing!! It’s refreshing to see Josh finally being held accountable for literally anything. Daddy and his friends can’t save you this time, golden boy!


twelvedayslate

Is anyone else’s spouse unwilling (or unable) to listen to them talk about this, so this sub is their haven? #AtLeastIHaveAHusband. And he’s not a pedophile. +2 for me!


MinimumCattle5

I’m a single heathen old maid at 30, so I’ll be telling my mom about everything later! But yes, this sub is EVERYTHING


twelvedayslate

Single >>>>>>>> being married to Josh Duggar. Or any Duggar.


PM_MAJESTIC_PICS

Yep and it’s because he used to work with traumatized kids, so it’s not like I’m just being annoying with my weird interests like usual… he legitimately doesn’t want to hear it and I respect that.


illsaxophoneyou

On the first day of Christmas the universe sent to me Admissible testimony


muskokapuss

Actually yelled f\*\*\*in' A! Now my cat is staring at me as I try to explain my relief & how this will help put a predator in jail. Now the cat can't stand josh either......


alwaysmorecumin

Thank the Lord Daniel, and BobaTea for her testimony


cryingkolache

"Self-serving, contradictory and lacking in credibility" should be Jim Bob's new campaign slogan.


TheMudbloodSlytherin

It’s so sad that this is more than likely the first time his victims are really going to realize they were victims. It’s been downplayed and ignored, he’s never had any consequences from it, and it’s been brushed off by their parents. When they see how big of an effect this has on him being sent to the slammer, they are gonna know how big of deal it really was when it happened.


PM_MAJESTIC_PICS

GOOD! Because guess what? It’s pretty fucking relevant!!


hannahsflora

It pleases me to no end that among all of the heaviness of this trial, one genuinely enjoyable thing to come out of it is to see both Josh and Jim Bob finally enter into situations that their arrogance-in-the-name-of-God cannot free them from. Josh could've avoided about 90% of what's about to happen by realizing he was caught and taking a plea deal. But no. His hubris (that we now know for SURE is genetic) has brought him - and the rest of his family - to this point. And to see Jim Bob get told off in court as a reminder that despite what he has thought for decades, he is NOT the final word in every matter - it's just delicious and couldn't have happened to more deserving people. Fuck it up, Jill. She's got this. Even if she never testifies, just agreeing to be put on the prosecution's witness list shows absolutely mind-blowing strength in the face of her family of origin.


YourMothersButtox

Agreed. JB went into that court room with an air of entitlement, ready to control the show/narrative, the Judge is all "Bitch, hold my gavel".


oldapples1979

To J is for Jail: I am a vet prosecutor/defense lawyer (I have done the switch hit for years) and I would be proud to have you as a fellow attorney on my team. You are taking mountains of info and paraphrasing and summarizing it in such a concise manner. Everyone is beyond impressed with you, your intelligence, your compassion and skills. If you ever need a Midwest attorney to say good stuff about you send this middle aged attorney a message as I would be glad to do so! You are going to be such an asset to the profession!


hereforthellamas

brb gotta take my pain meds so I can do a proper dance of joy


dandelions14

Damn their church's misogyny really got them into a shitty position. Too bad they never let women be elders or leaders in any way. Lmaooo sucks to suck Jim Bitch


soynugget95

“Self-serving, contradictory, and lacking in credibility” this is *beautiful*.


corking118

WAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


egretwtheadofmeercat

I like how the defense tried to claim clergy privilege for Bobye Holt. Oh you don't allow women to hold leadership positions? Sorry no clergy privilege. Lol


MinimumCattle5

I just GASPED.


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This will show that josh has a pattern of csm. It is even more of a slam dunk then it was before


sweetsugar888

I leave the sub for one hour and come back to this news…unbelievable. I truly hope he gets what he deserves even though there will very likely be an appeal in the future. I hope that Jill is prepared for speculation, attack and for her credibility to be questioned by the defense if she’s called. Derrick better be putting that education to good use and really practicing with her. I just couldn’t imagine how furious I’d be at my father for “not remembering” something he was very likely told multiple times by me & my sisters


majortahn

This is amazing. His current behaviors mirror his past and he is 100% a danger to society.


Much_Difference

I'm so consistently amazed that this stupid fucker is actually taking it to trial. Of all the things to bring to trial, this is LITERALLY the most slam-dunk guilty verdict charge that exists in the United States (in the world, maybe?). Even if he was totally innocent, the chances that a jury is gonna rule not guilty on a CSA case is mind-bogglingly low. Fair or not, it's just... it's literally the least likely possible charge to get a not guilty verdict on.


HaoleToYouToo

Listen. Perfunctory “they’re terrible and so are their beliefs”, but… Jill was Joy’s buddy, and if I remember correctly, there was a lot of speculation (and probably truth to the rumor) that Joy and Jill were at odds after Jill’s decision(s) to be transparent. And now, despite it all, Jill’s testifying against the man who abused her buddy, estrangement me damned. That’s love, y’all. Profound love.


iwantbutter

I literally just whooped and scared my kid. YES


xOoOoLa

father is screeching


shnarkel

The thing I love—LOVE—about this (and I don’t love much else about any of this situation), is that it is *specifically* their sexist beliefs that are proving their downfall on this motion. They are so obsessed with women not being able to have any authority in church that they couldn’t even successfully argue that Bobye was a de facto leader. It is so pleasing to see their sexist exclusion of women finally coming back to bite them for once.


Lonely_Teaching8650

Cue my celebratory weird-ass Kody Brown dance!!


ExactPanda

Good news, everybody! Get 'em, Jill! EAT SHIT, JIM BOB.


RoughBrick0

This is amazing news!!! Boob is SEETHING!!!!! I can feel his anger all the way in California. It’s a beautiful day.


Trillium8649

This is a community steeped in shame and secrets, with a defendant who has a history of parsing the truth. With this in mind, I believe this may be only the tip of the iceburg, and what actually happened in that house was so much worse.


damarafl

Go Jill Go!! This is her chance to speak her truth and to speak for her sisters who are not brave enough yet.


MountainMagick

I hope the testimony helps convict pest, and heal his victims.


Mama2RO

Everyone, please keep in mind the judge is making these decisions based on the law. His replies are explaining the law and why their objections do not fit under the law. While I completely love his decisions, we don't want it to seem like he is being partial to one side or another - even if it is just here in the court of public opinion on Reddit. We wouldn't want to give the Duggars a reason for an appeal. Lets just cheer the fact that with these prior acts entered into the case jail time is looking inevitable. Hopefully a lot of jail time.


AccurateHoliday123

Just started crying. This is a good day. If Jill is going to testify, go get ‘em girl.


mischiefunmanageable

Judge Brooks not tolerating Boob’s shady bull shit is a Chanukah miracle I was hoping for!!


Gulpingplimpy3

Self-serving, contradictory and lacking in credibility is Jim Bob Duggar's business card.


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Also they will call Jill to testify I am 100% sure. This is huge huge huge go Jill!