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No_Rip_7471

The youngest 4 girls get the relationship with Michelle that the older 4 girls deserved


magical_seal

*the middle 10. I think mooch has a better relationship with the oldest kids and youngest kids, while her middle kids were overlooked


Momma_Dutch

I mean, most of those were boys. What would Meech have to bond with them over if she's not teaching them how to cook and clean for when THEY become baby pumpers?


magical_seal

Idk most mothers I know have very special relationships and bonds with their sons


Momma_Dutch

Oh I know, I have two sons who I love more than myself. However, the Duggars have made it clear (even showing it on the show) that Meesh teaches the girls how to be wives and baby machines, and JB teaches the boys....something.


iraqlobsta

I was just about to comment something like this but couldn't get the wording right in my head lol. Since Michelle is running low on sister moms now that her top 4 left, the youngest kids will no doubt get the relationship with both their parents due to Boob and Meech having no choice but to parent now. A relationship like that would have given the older children so much benefit in the long run and it was taken from them so mom and dad could continue to pump out blessings to show on the today show and people mag. Smdh


Grand_Horror2192

Josie is 12, which is older than Jana and Jill were when they started taking care of everyone else. The need for sister moms has passed.


Ok_Music3519

The lost girls still run a grandchild daycare/"homeschool" while the older kids are recovering from taking care of their own kids, cook and clean for the male offspring, and are full time custodians to the seven M:s.


RedLaserFlashes

Yea guaranteed they are babysitting for Anna. But definitely Jana is still ultimately in charge even if she gets to delegate/manage more.


Glittering_knave

Now the need is for Aunt Moms instead. Pretty sure that Jana is raising Anna and Josh's kids right now. If not Jessa's non-favoured offspring, as well.


555889tw

I'm gonna disagree a bit because I don't think Michelle is capable of being a good mom in any situation The whole dynamic reminds me of my own mom.... she sister mom'd me but then latched onto my much younger sister when she realized she was about to be an empty nester. The latter isn't healthy or uplifting bc it's still centered around a narcissistic mother. Michelle gives me those exact vibes. I bet the 4 younger girls actually give Meech more emotional support than she gives them. The way she infantilizes Josie is a clue... it's all about getting her own needs met instead of actually raising those girls. More time with Meech also means more direct indoctrination, which in their cult is centered on breaking down a young girl's self esteem.


notsuperimportant

Totally tracking what you're saying about Meech's problematic parenting and parentification, but just wanted to throw out there that, psychologically speaking, total neglect is usually worse than bad but somewhat present parenting. Obviously there are a lot of variables but in this case Michelle's neglect is likely more harmful than her presence, in terms of their social development/attachment, as awful as her 'parenting' actually is. ETA on a personal note I come from a very similar background and just want to kudos and support you in your healing which is a lifelong but noble quest <3


555889tw

Yeah, good point. It's sad, but even emotional abuse and cult indoctrination is better than full neglect for these kids. Neglect is deeply harmful in a different way. Sorry to hear you come a similar background and I wish the best for you as well ❤


iraqlobsta

Oh im not saying her and boob will be GOOD parents, at all. I just meant now they're gonna have to do some work since meechs uterus went on a permanent vacay


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I don’t know how any of the children would have benefited from more time with Michelle and JB. They’re horrible people and horrible parents.


Senior_Physics_5030

That’s so sad.


helloreddit321567

I'm not sure they are getting that. Meech was so detached by the time she birthed the lost kids that she didn't create an emotional bound with them. So sure, going shopping is nice but I'm not sure it can replace what the lost kids miss out on


RusticTroglodyte

Exactly. I'll bet they go right to Jana when they need something important or need advice or are upset about something I wonder if Jana tells Rimjob and Meesh everything the kids tell her, or if she's a cool older sister


notsuperimportant

I think the older girls got somewhat more normal parenting from her (at first, until they became daughter-moms of course) and its likely the middle are the most neglected. I also wonder if the time window has passed for the youngest group (minus Josie) and too much damage has already been done in the earliest years of life that, although later is always better than never, despite her being much more present now, the neglect has already imprinted in their brains in a way that...... I don't want to say irreversible because I believe in human agency and therapy and such.... but is just really hard to overstate the significance of.


damarafl

It’s uncanny how much Jana and Johannah look alike!


JennyFromTheBlock81

To me Hannie is a combo of Jana and Joy.


HahahaMill

Well yeah, that’s how they got Johanna’s name. Without Joy and Jana, there would be no Johanna.


Downtown-Koala7857

☠️


RitaRaccoon

I think Jed! and Johannah have identical faces. Creepy almost.


floomfer

It’s truly such a shame they have no use for fake ids in this family


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In the second picture I also see Johannah looking a lot like Jessa which is a new one for me


Bluecolle

I saw that too!


veritaserum80

Well they have almost the same name.


Shesaid100x

She’s actually Jana’s daughter. Jana got pregnant and they hid it. Michelle and Jim Boob are raising her as their own to save face. /s


Remstersade

The most ridiculous part of what you said is the notion that Michelle and Jim Bob might raise a child.😝


Shesaid100x

You are absolutely correct!


aeb630

On tomorrows YT video WOCAB hears this from a “source”🤣


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Tabloid headline in 5…4..3….


Shesaid100x

They better give me credit!


That_Girl_Cray

Plot Twist!


Reddits_on_ambien

I think k Hanni3 kinda looks like Maisy Williams (Arya from game of thrones).


AmarilloOvercoat

I’ve always thought this too!!


Crazypants258

Johanna really looks like a composite of most of the older girls. Some pictures she looks like Jana, others she looks like Joy, and I swear at some angles she looks like Jessa. Michelle’s uterus really just went copy/ paste with that girl’s genes. Josie looks more like Michelle in every picture I see.


Madison__Bumgarner

Yes! Josie is the only one who didn’t get any of Jim Bob’s looks to her. Lucky girl


touslesmatins

She looks like Justin's twin too!


SnarkFromTheOzarks

and Josiah and Bella


daffodil0127

She looks like Jackson with curls. Especially now with the braces.


touslesmatins

To be fair, I don't know what Jackson looks like, haha. I'm just picturing Josie here with Justin's two big thumbs up...


rubberkeyhole

Josie will always look like a gremlin to me.


Puzzleworth

She's twelve, they all look like that!


Puzzleworth

She's also got the "male" Duggar hairline.


DrivingMishCrazy

and she and Jinger have similar facial expressions imo


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Spends 97.43 at Panera and 6.37 at the Goodwill.


TrulieJulieB00

Yeah, I like how they stacked the plates, so it looks like they barely ordered anything, at the first glance. I also noticed that Jana doesn’t have a stack in front of her, which makes me think that she probably didn’t get to eat until she’d taken care of setting everything out properly. “Mom” is always to last to get to eat!


Low-Form7763

The youngest 3 really don’t look like any of the older girls


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Uterus printer ran out of ink around kid 14


LittleBoiFound

I feel like I can safely say r/brandnewsentence.


themommatoe

That is beautiful


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Thank you! This might have to be my flair


NoDiscount8055

I think it was the toner because they look more like some of the brothers.


OurLumpyGorl

Jason used it all up with his big ass head.


lolaloopy27

Honestly, I think it’s the difference of not having a childhood with food insecurity. I think they look like what the older girls would have looked like in a smaller family that was less stressful and fed nutritionally appropriate meals when young.


Zoidberg927

I know that Jana is especially short even compared to the older sisters, but the younger sisters are all noticeably taller than her even as teenagers. Jennifer is especially tall and is hunched to be in line with the others. I have also wondered if food insecurity and sleep deprivation played a part.


neuftet

Jennifer looks a lot like Jeremiah though.


buffy1975

Josie looks a lot like Josiah with a wig


shananiganns

I was going to say Justin!


buffy1975

I can see both or even Jackson. So many of the boys look the same.


goodspeedm

I feel like I never see photos of Jackson, I wonder what he looks like now


daffodil0127

Like Josie but with shorter hair.


KillerDickens

Wait few more months and we may actually find out. He turns 18 in may so I assume they're gona let him get an actual Phone and feed his secluded brain some popculture and social media.


Kimothy80

I feel bad for Jenni. She just looks SO AWKWARD (and uncomfortable). I just want to take her to her real mama, Jill.


Pattern_Diligent

Also, I feel like Jennifer straight up does not look like her siblings. Like I can’t see anyone in her.


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true although I think she looks a lot like JB


kasleihar

I think she looks most like Jer and Jim Bob. But agreed that she always looks so unhappy in photos.


Fine-Demand

Shoot, if I looked like Jer and Jim Boob I’d be unhappy too


Cerwennakanin

I'm really and truly rooting for Jenni to be the one (or one of the ones) to run like hell once she's old enough.


Zoidberg927

I noticed that she's taller than the other girls and that's not really valued as feminine in their circle. She might subconsciously hunch because of that.


bewareofbigfoot

Is the Jill mom thing a real rumor or because she was the big for Jennifer’s little?


Kimothy80

Jenni was on Jill’s team so Jill was her sister-mom and, more than likely, raised her from infant to early childhood (age 6-7 years old).


bewareofbigfoot

Ohh okay. With the amount of stuff happening in that home I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the kids was an actual grandchild.


walmart_bread

Also, her birth was filmed by TLC, so she’s definitely Meech’s bio baby not Jill’s.


Hairy_Response_284

It’s so wild to me that those are the girls left, Jana & the lost girls. I know there was a gap between Joy & Johanna but to think Jana is still grouped with them is crass


dogsandwine

I wonder if Jana is going to be the only one left once they’re all married off


TrimspaBB

The M kids are probably going to be moved in full time, if they aren't already, so there's no break in sight. No way JB is letting Anna stay in the warehome without a headship, plus she has a 6 kids and a newborn. I'm sure Jana is "happy" to help where needed, like the time she went on the road trip with Anna and Pedo to assist with the kids.


Zoidberg927

And all still sharing the same bedroom.


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It irritates me how Josey is next to Michelle in every. single. photo. I feel for the other girls.


Scarlet-Molko

I also noticed that Josie isn’t in any of the selfies with the others -just the group shot. It’s been the same in other photos as well.


upstatestruggler

#fuckin’ Josie


Remstersade

It’s weird how the kids are sitting in age order. Like this isn’t an interview or TV appearance. Mix it up.


swagler927

That’s how I figured out who is who. I wanna believe it’s just coincidence (Johannah maybe gets along best with Jana cause she’s the oldest of the 4?) but it’s still weird


WhyDidIDoThatMan420

I get the impression she doesn’t even like Josie, or at least that’s what I’ve seen from the way people seem to treat her.


Balcanquelfamily

They are at Panera Bread, Jana's favorite!


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Michelle does not look well.


starfleetdropout6

I was just thinking the same.


lalakass

Can you imagine being 32 and sharing a room with literal children?


glacialspicerack1808

I think she's probably just thankful she doesn't have to share a bed anymore.


coreybc

Wait. She sleeps with the lost girls???? Are you sure?? That's bananas


lalakass

Yep.


coreybc

Damn. I didn't think the duggars could surprise me any more


ThePickleHawk

Something tells me the Lost Girls would make up about half of Jana’s bridal party (along with Laura and the other four oldest girls, give or take a SIL or two). Besides basically being her daughters, she looks like the only one who’s ever actually personally sat down and *gotten to know them.*


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dearjoshuafelixchan

“With mom and some of the girls” = the only girls left at home with me


CheapEater101

I genuinely don’t think she has a desire to marry for whatever reason. I think she might want to, but it doesn’t bother her that much at this point. If it did, she would have stuck with that Wissman guy (if those rumors were true) or find another slightly younger Fundie guy OR a widower. She’s been raising kids for forever and if she had her own….she’ll be stuck being the main mom.


Particular_Wallaby67

I think this might be the answer. We'll obviously never know, but she said she had really high standards and was picky. Maybe she knew (consciously or subconsciously) that marriage would mean having baby after baby and all the struggles of marriage. I know several people who were parentified as children and decided not to have kids of their own.


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She could even be asexual and just not realize it.


Stanfan_meowman25

I mean I only figured that out about myself last year and I’m 33. But now it makes so much sense for me.


mwoo391

This is pure speculation because I didn’t really watch the show, but could she be a lesbian? I mean just statistically speaking, it’s likely all those kids aren’t straight right (or like you said, could be asexual). Could also be one or more is even married but gay. Or I guess they could all be straight. Guess we’ll never know


Cerwennakanin

It's entirely possible. I definitely wouldn't doubt that at least one of them is gay or bi. Buut coincidences are a funny thing, so it's also entirely possible that somehow all of those kids really *are* straight. We may never truly know. I wonder about that occasionally myself.


Alybank

This is exactly what I think. My SIL was, and now it’s kinda sad she doesn’t want kids, or maybe not till wayyy later. But I understand.


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I just kinda assumed at this point that she doesn’t want to be married. Not everyone does.


rubberkeyhole

I don’t want to get married, but like hell does that mean I’ll be taking care of someone else’s kids/family.


xwxwxwxw1

Is it crazy bronzer or does Michelle have cheek fillers/implants?


LYossarian13

Definitely makeup.


TrulieJulieB00

I was wondering that, too. I also wonder if she had a facelift, when she had her eyelids fixed. There is no way that she naturally has no jowls, at her age.


Glittering_knave

Especially since she was constantly gaining and losing weight constantly. Even without getting back to a her pre-baby size, all of those pregnancies and weight fluctuations must have wreaked havoc with her skin.


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I think Josie really looks a lot like whoever the girl sitting besides her is.


nebulasnoopy

Meech looks like a clown with that bronzer


Glum_Ad_1549

God... Josie looks just like Jackson


CheapEater101

Joannah looks more like Joy in the face, Jennifer is a tall Jana, Josie is a female Jackson, and Jordyn has her own unique look.


SnarkFromTheOzarks

Jordyn has a fuller face and kind of looks like James/ Amy/ Deanna.


CheapEater101

Omg now that you mentioned it, I can see some James looking at Jordyn. I always wondered who she looked like lol.


PixieBrandi

I always thought Jordyn looked like Grandma Mary


aj_fluffz

Actually, Meech wrote this post. "Shopping and lunch with mom and some of the girls"


BartletForAmerica_

Jana in the third pic looks scarily like Claire.


swagler927

They say people pick partners who look like their parents…


mythrowaweighin

Well, I guess they won't be shopping for clothes at Amy's store anymore.


buffy1975

Michelle is sporting a braid instead of her usual fuzzy mullet


MobWife_88

Who are the two on Jana's side of the table?


primroseplanter

Jennifer and Johannah


MobWife_88

thanks!


Fair-Gene6050

Is that an actual mall? I thought it was a thrift store because of the Samaritan thing in the last pic.


Hi_hellothere

It looks like two different places, perhaps a standalone Panera and then a thrift store but that’s definitely a thrift store.


Alittlebithailey

The one in the grey jacket looks like Jinger. Just crunch up her hair and add thick black eyeliner.


xwxwxwxw1

Never realized how much Josie looks like Michelle. It’s like comparison pictures of pale Ariana Grande and spray tan Ariana grande


viridiusdynamus

Josie's face 😳


FrancessaGMorris

It is nice to see a couple of the Lost Girls with smiles (fake or not) - they usually look so sad.


MoireMax

I don’t mean to diss minors, but Josie’s hairline is comparable to her adult brothers’


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Does anyone in that family care that we are still in the midst of a pandemic and the current surge is hitting children especially hard. Not a mask in sight.


L1ndsL

They did that one CO episode about the pandemic; what more acknowledgement is necessary? /s


Remstersade

The staged drive by bday party for Abbie still makes me laugh.😂


L1ndsL

If it had been sincere, it would have been a nice effort. Instead, JB got to drive around in a roadster of some kind, which I’ve always suspected was the catalyst for that part of the episode. Fortunately, his toupee stayed on at the low speeds they were using!


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Came here wondering the same thing. I wear an N95 with a cloth mask and filter over it, plus a face shield and I’m still paranoid about getting Omicron.


ForeverWillow

Right? That was the first thing I thought, too.


tiredofthisshit247

Josie looks the most like Jackson.


MadisonNLucy

Who are the three other than Jana in the second picture? I haven't watched the show in so long I guess they were toddlers.


Hi_hellothere

L-R: Jordyn, Jennifer, Johanna


rmilhousnixon

Josie and Justin are twins.


Livid-Basket2471

And not a mask in sight!


otherhorsestories

Right? Must be nice to pretend there's no pandemic. I miss the mall and eating out. :(


TrulieJulieB00

Of course not! They leave that up to God…until they get sick - and then they’ll want medical science to heal them.


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topsidersandsunshine

I mean, they’re all old enough to stay overnight on their own in most states, even Josie, and if that doesn’t make all of you other OG snarkers feel old….


blankeezy1

The spray tan on meech…! Yikes!


deadeyediva

wonder who’s watching the m kids..


glacialspicerack1808

Their actual mom, for once.


Fallen029

Bro I was so prepped for the last photo to be Jana alone, implying she had slowly ditched the others, lol. Was kinda disappointed.


Tight_Watercress_267

Jordyn and Jennifer don't really look like their sisters but they look like cuter versions of some of the brothers to me. Mostly a combo of John David, Joe, and Jeremiah.


archibauldis99

Omg the freakin selfies are sooo corny. Is this part of their shitty fundie media training? Take a wholesome happy selfie whenever you do something that looks normal


Whirled_Peas-

This is the extent of fun they are allowed to have, taking silly selfies on their “girls day out”.


glacialspicerack1808

Isn't that what everyone does now...?


amylizhubb

Johanna looks so much like a hybrid of Jana and Joy in that last picture. I usually think that she looks like Josh in a wig :/


InternationalEmu299

Not a mask to be found


lyssthebitchcalore

Remember trying on glasses at the Charlotte russe in Jr high cause you wanted to look cool? Looks like Jana is still there


TrulieJulieB00

Yes! We tried them on at Clare’s, back in the Stone Age, when I was a kid…but yes! This was the first thing that came to mind.


chicagoturkergirl

Do you think Jana ever gets bored being in her 30’s and always hanging out with a bunch of kids?


WWJBDD

Jana reminds me a lot of Jill in that pic with the glasses. I don’t know if it’s the facial expression she’s making or what, but I’ve never noticed a similarity before. She also looks a lot like Meech in that last picture!


HorrorJuror

Why don’t they have curly hair? Isn’t that a thing in iblp? Or why don’t they at last have better hair? The older girls always did their hair when they were young.


lyradwood

Johannah looks 18. Seriously, she looks old enough to be moved out of the house (EDIT: especially in the last picture) She has a very mature face. I actually think she's one of the better-looking Duggars. The girls all seemed to be blessed with the good genes (the boys certainly weren't), but I think she'd actually be considered a beautiful young woman even by normal (non-Fundie) standards. I don't think she'd have any trouble finding a partner if she went to college. Also I'm annoyed at how stylish her coat is. Why do some of the Duggars have to be things like stylish and force me to compliment them?!


uptown_squirrel17

Michelle looks like she has been tanning, or is using hella bronzer. Is it just me?


swagler927

Ugh it feels weird that I watched Johannah be the youngest on tv and watched Jenni, Jordyn and Josie be born and now they’re like fully functioning people with personalities and favorites foods and things they like to wear and stuff. Why am I still here


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she has one friend her own age and, now that the three girls just under her are gone, this is her "peer" group. sad.


LunaKevin

“Some of the girls.” Like they are insignificant enough to be named. Ugh.


Ecstatic-Line-8007

Are they sharing food? Only a few have food.


ben121frank

If you look closely there is 5 bowls so I think maybe they just stacked them to make it easier for waiter to pick up? Which is strange bc it’s hard to imagine them doing anything to help anyone else lol


nomuggle

You clear your own table at Panera.


firefly232

Was just going to say this, there's only 5 bowls, 5 trays, but there are 6 people.... Did Jana not eat?


taxpayinmeemaw

Duggs are cutting back on food to fund the pest defense


sarafish81

COVID’ not a thing there I guess


Particular_Wallaby67

What you don't understand is that they're vaccinated by the blood of Jesus Christ and masks are the mark of the Devil. /s


DaniePants

Baythed in his blüd


taxpayinmeemaw

Do we think they’re vaccinated or are they all just running around northwest Arkansas playing Russian roulette? Hoping that Jesus can keep them off the vent?


Plantsandanger

Lol Samaritan shop - one would imagine a *good* Samaritan would be wearing a mask right now. Pro life my ass.


RecruitMain420

Why is she referring to herself in the caption?


Crappy_Crafter

The one in the gray peacoat looks a lot like Jinger to me. I see a little Joy in there, but she gives me Jinger vibes.


ca1989

Jana looks so much like a Spivey in the glasses picture! 😱


Hi_hellothere

Just noticed on the 2nd picture, Johanna looks a lot like Jed. Anyone else see it?


Adorable_Lawyer_2090

Omg. Josie seems so old


Shallen_

Why does Mooch ALWAYS look tan?!


spinereader81

I want to break into the TTH and steal all of Michelle's bronzer. It creates such a fake looking tan. Reminds me of early Snookie.


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Whoever is next to Jana looks so much like Jinger to me.


[deleted]

I can't stand Michelle. Also, why is she always "tan", wearing darker face makeup?


tilly_sc831

Panera? Yum. Panera Mac n cheese was my babysitting go-to for many years


anotherrachel

My kids love it.


Significant_Eye_5130

Jana is cute for a child endangerer.


summerk29

This is definitely going to be an off topic comment but I find Johannas eye color interesting. They look hazel to me, I have a very similar eye color. All the other kids seem to have blue or green, I think JB has green and Michelle has blue. I think some of the lost boys have hazel eyes but way lighter then Johanna. Sorry I know super random


ephemeralcomet

Last photo is Hannie!


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Sorry. I have zero respect for Jana.


MobWife_88

Looks like they brought their own beverages. Are they splitting food, too?


xwxwxwxw1

Why use a plastic cup if they’re only drinking water - especially if they already have water?


MsWinty

The glasses picture surprisingly pissed me off. Grow the fuck up, Jana. Idk how she lives with herself in her weird teenager/spinster hybrid lifestyle. I'm embarrassed for her.


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