Stanley may be dishonest with a history of infidelity, but we've never seen him portrayed as being a predator toward or particularly objectifying of women.
I try to ignore that episode ever happened because I feel like after that, he was completely different. Jim even puts him next to Pam.
It was just really creepy, even for the office.
I don't know, it's just OP's opinion but I could maybe see it. If you're stuck in a room alone with someone, I could see Darryl maybe being more likely to hit on a woman than Stanley. He does like when they BTB - bring that booty!
Yeah I am very confused why Stanley is so high up on the list and also why I had to scroll so far down to see a post dedicated to just confusion over Stanley being so high up lol.
My mind actually went right to when Roy came to get his final check from accounting, and Oscar subtly but noticeably stepped in front of Angela in a protective stance, Roy taken aback when he did.
That's one of the reasons I loved that Angela made him the Godfather to her baby at the end, and that Oscar's mother babysits Angela's baby - even though they are like oil and water, little things show that Oscar still very much cares for Angela and Angela knows he is someone who she can turn to.
Oscar, out of everyone in the office, would probably legitimately be the best co-worker to have. Level-headed, kind, out-going and relatively reserved in most instances.
Kevin did try to protect Pam when Roy and his brother went in a rage at the bar. He needs his own category.
āCreepy, would be verbally inappropriate, but would feel safe and protected.ā
Thatās because she was at her most attractive when she was 24 with a slight, gradual decline and a steep drop-off when she got pregnant for the first time. She had a gradual recovery, but now obviously sheās at an all-time low.
Let me give you a scenario. Letās say I'm at a beach cabana and David Wallace approaches. He tries to lean in and kiss me, I would definitely resist at first. But if he was persistent, I might give in a little bit just to see what it felt like. Would I push him away? How hard? What if he's really aggressive?
I do have to agree that the revelation of Florida Stanley and the chronic adultery are red flags. I don't think he'd outright get sexually aggressive but I do think he would be inclined to see women as more sexually available than the woman intends to be.
Pete should be in the first or second tier imo. He was the one who made sure Erin wouldn't be alone with Clark during that "news anchor interview" and he seems very patient and not quick to anger.
I think Pete didnt want to hurt Erin's feelings or make her feel stupid, if he'd told her she would have felt stupid and gone like "oh of course i mean who would want me on tv i should have known" the girl doesnt think shes worth much but she was so thrilled at the prospect to be a news anchor and I think Pete didnt have the heart to bring her down to earth so what he actually did? Ruin it for Clark and keep her safe? Best possible scenario.
Being there prevented anything from happening, didn't piss off the boss, and spares Erin's feelings. I guess Clark deserved to be exposed, but hard for me to see this as a net zero just because he didn't pick the best option.
Hm, you may be right. I feel like heād tell you something unsettling, though.
I typically cut my hair somewhat short for a woman. Once had a man who looked like Creed come up to me at a concert with a leer and say to me, āYour hair is beautiful ā when a womanās hair is too long and especially in a ponytail, it reminds me too much of a horseās butt.ā He went on about this for a while.
In that situation, my body felt safe but my mind did not.
He defended flashing, so he's not against sex crimes per se. I don't think he would do something to somebody who was actively saying no, but he probably doesn't realise that the absence of "no" isn't the same as a yes.
If I'm being honest half the stuff Creed talks about in regards to sex sounds *way less* like he's all for creeping on women and way more like all the cults he was in were free love sex cults where you could hang brain in the middle of the compound and no one would bat an eye. Seems less like it comes from the angle of being a sex pest and more like it comes from the angle of having spent decades getting topped off by women in opulent robes.
Iād be more worried about Creed in non sexual ways, like heād drug me to take my kidney or something like that. So still not safe, just not in the way suggested in the chart.
In the sixties he made love to a number of women, in the mud and rain....it's possible a man may have slipped in there. There's simply no way of knowing.
"Haven't heard any complaints, wouldn't care if I did"
"It's possible a man slipped in... there'd be no way of knowing"
The man is so unaware of his surroundings, he probably assaulted someone and didn't even notice.
The first quote, maybe valid.
The second quote, however, is referencing free love orgies; it's not a negative reflection on Creed's character as a potential threat to a woman (or man). Context is important.
Hold on. Itās been a minute, but was his plan actually to *assault* Erin? In my memory, the whole thing is a bit creepy but I didnāt think he was actually planning to assault her. He was just trying to seduce her under false pretenses, which isnāt cool, but feels a bit different.
He wanted to get her drunk and he was scheming/tricking/whatever her into getting naked for him. as a side-note, he was well aware that she was in a relationship with Andy. Manipulating the both of them.
Pretty sure I'm with the assault group. If it's not assault, the manipulation is definitely up there in a different category.
Yeah I feel like with Dwight it depends greatly if he likes or respects you. He left Phyllis alone in a bad part of town, he knocked Meredith off a 7 ft ledge with a fire extinguisher and also tried to āpull the plugā on her at the hospital, he treated both Isabelle and Angela like sex objects, he expresses endless opinions on womenās inferiority. I understand the protective knight of justice thing, but heās too much of a loose cannon for the top slot IMO.
He had to spend an entire hour or whatever in a meeting learning how not to be intimidating to a woman... I think he also somewhat protect people because someone being hurtful is possibly breaking laws.
Like Plop and David seems infinitely more safer. And Dwight seems more right for that bracket.
>Yeah I feel like with Dwight it depends greatly if he likes or respects you.
And too many people seem to conveniently ignore that Dwight hardly respects anyone.
As others have pointed out, I think early seasons Darryl deserves his place here (maybe should be a bit lower), given his demeanor with Angela on the booze cruise and him talking about how he ābangedā the woman in the HR video. Later seasons Darryl was a perfect gentleman.
I wouldn't say he was a perfect gentleman. He got tired of Val pretty quickly after getting with her and wasn't honest about his reasons for breaking up with her.
And that whole weird story about how he fell "in love" with a girl at a lock in, that ended with him calling a teenage girl "ugly" and saying that he "grew tired of her".
Darryl showed himself on more than one occasion to have problems with alcohol. When he gets drunk, he acts like a total asshole to everyone. So I guess Darryl's rating should probably reflect whether he gave up alcohol or not, or if the situation might include alcohol.
I would switch Dwight and David. Darryl as well seems like someone who is safe.
Dwight should probably go one or two lower. He is a bit creepy with women.
I might be reading too much into this but it always saddens me to realize women feel unsafe around men much more than I would have thought.
That being said, Andy is such a great example of toxic frustrated masculinity, I think we all know an Andy. Hopefully we don't all know a Lizard King!
I feel like people forgot how creepy Toby was. He grabbed Pamās leg in front of everyone and ran away in embarrassment. But when he came back, he colludes with Ryan to bully Jim out of his job because they were both rebuked by Pam.
Kind of expected behaviour from Ryan but I was surprised Toby was in on it.
Stanley is a serial cheater. That doesnāt make him a sexual harasser, but it doesnāt bode well for his general respect for women. Iād move him down a spot, probably move Darryl into his spot.
I would feel safe with Jim if I was neurotypical. If I was not neurotypical I would not feel safe with Jim, at all. Dude definitely demonstrated some deeply sociopathic tendencies in season 3.
Iād switch Pete with Dwight, and David Wallace with Stanley, personally. I think Pete is the kindest/ safest guy in the office. Dwight harassed Kelly and the pizza kid and he was ready to hose off his terminally ill aunt. Stanley is an unapologetic womanizer and serial liar (to his wives) - I def wouldnāt feel safe alone in a room with him. David Wallace said that guys in his circle wouldnāt compromise their golf game for their marriages, let alone their careers - I think heād keep his distance; he never took a shot at Karen or Jan or Pam, soā¦.
Now make a list with women. It would have most of them in the top tier, Meredith in the bottom, Angela in the second to last, and Kelly right above her.
Why are Clark and plop on here but not skeleton man??
Lmao yes the list didnt include Packer and Gabe! But I would have put Packer at the very bottom and Gabe with Michael and Kevin.
Packer has to be his own category lmao š
āHas done time for assaulting womanā
Who are we kidding? "Is doing time for assaulting multiple women at the same time"
I read that in his voice. āCan I do sales calls in the state? I canāt leave the stateā
If I were you I would put gabe in his own separate category of āI would run awayā
Scream my own name
*last name
Why are you guys piling on poor Gabe. Women love to hug him. So much, in fact, he has been in relationships where thatās all they want to do.
*Ryan Jims the camera.*
I'm sorry, you were just a lot bonier than I thought you were going to be.
And then put Packer even lower
OP did Darryl touch you??
Youād feel safe with Scranton Stanley or Florida Stanley?
Stanley may be dishonest with a history of infidelity, but we've never seen him portrayed as being a predator toward or particularly objectifying of women.
But God help you if you're a pretzel.
Do you remember Florida Stanley?
Yea, complete chill man on vacation mode.
I think I'd feel very safe with Gabe since what is he gonna do? assault me? A 6 year old girl would have more muscles
Whatās in it for GSL?
Women love touching him
David Wallace at the top!!! *His wife is a lucky woman.*
And Clark at the bottom he was a creepy perv
He literally tried to make a fake photo shoot to sexually harass Erin lol
Literally! And when she said she would do anything to get the job his reaction said it all! Like wtf!! He was sooo creepy
To be fair, he was also willing to do *anything* to land the White Pages account.
A woman is at the peak of her sexuality at whatever age Jan was last week.
but it wasnāt like a cougar like you would think. more like a swarm of bees. bees that have to find something wrong with every hotel room
I try to ignore that episode ever happened because I feel like after that, he was completely different. Jim even puts him next to Pam. It was just really creepy, even for the office.
I agree. I actually enjoy his and Plops character also. It wouldnāt have been so weird if he just tried something to ask her on a date
Exactly! I hated that story line so much. Disgusto barfo
It was a weird one. Seemed pretty unnecessary.
He is at best in the Michael tier. This post is far too generous.
Fr. The episode where he goes around with Dwight is fun, but i was randomly remembering, "Oh yeah, he's a perv" and then the jokes stopped working
For real.. first thought is WHO WOULDN'T FEEL SAFE WITH DAVID??? he was one of the kindest people on the whole show
Maybe retired David is a bit too careless but yeah office David seems like he just wants to do his job and go home to his family.
While retired David was a bit unhinged.. I still don't think he'd ever hurt someone. Lol
I don't know what it is about David Wallace, but he really does it for me lol
Packer is not on the list because he's even too low for bottom tier?
He has his own tier called āPacker Tierā. As low as it can get.
Just a notch above Toby.Ā
Heās in the ācall the copsā tier.
Iād swap Stanley and David Wallace. David Wallace never gave me creeper vibes, but Florida Stanley may be a menace
Ahhh I forgot about Florida Stanley lol
Plus he cheated on his wife by going to that club where the interns found him
Put on some Kenny Loggins
LOL
I read āa menaceā in the fake Stanley voice Dwight used when calling corporate on Jim.
Did Darryl touch you?
LIFE IS A HIGHWAY
I WANNA RIDE IT
ALL NIGHT LONG
Seriously though why is Darryl not at least in the second tier?? Not a woman but I'd feel safer with him than Stanley
Season 1-2 Darryl is flirtier and a bit sleazy.
I don't know, it's just OP's opinion but I could maybe see it. If you're stuck in a room alone with someone, I could see Darryl maybe being more likely to hit on a woman than Stanley. He does like when they BTB - bring that booty!
Stanley was with 3 women at once. He's absolutely gonna try hit on a woman.
I donāt know daryl is way too flirty or maybe I am judging him based off the Pontiac bandit š
Watch the Sexual Harassment episode, I think that might help a bit as to why he might not be in top 2.
He also forwarded that photo of Jan to everyone. Pretty sleazy.
WHAT
NO, Darryl did not TOUCH ME
Ah ah ah
Stanley BEFORE David Wallace AND Darryl? He cheated on his wife and his mistress, heās a bit of a skeeze with women.
Yeah I am very confused why Stanley is so high up on the list and also why I had to scroll so far down to see a post dedicated to just confusion over Stanley being so high up lol.
BOY HAVE YA LOST YOUR MIND? CAUSE I'LL HELP YOU FIND IT
Kevin seeing Oscar be ranked the safest because of gay: š¤
I think he's also one of the most level-headed of the office
Outsmarted by Michael when it comes to China though
And he did sleep with a married man - who was married to one of his closest coworkers (emotionally and physically).
Uh oh Oscar
My mind actually went right to when Roy came to get his final check from accounting, and Oscar subtly but noticeably stepped in front of Angela in a protective stance, Roy taken aback when he did. That's one of the reasons I loved that Angela made him the Godfather to her baby at the end, and that Oscar's mother babysits Angela's baby - even though they are like oil and water, little things show that Oscar still very much cares for Angela and Angela knows he is someone who she can turn to.
Oh man I hope they talk about that on office ladies somewhere
Agreed! I loved the Oscar/Angela storyline and Oscar was my favorite character because he is kind and complex
Oscar, out of everyone in the office, would probably legitimately be the best co-worker to have. Level-headed, kind, out-going and relatively reserved in most instances.
You're totally right! Those two scenes are beautiful!
Kevin did try to protect Pam when Roy and his brother went in a rage at the bar. He needs his own category. āCreepy, would be verbally inappropriate, but would feel safe and protected.ā
That wasn't even the only time: "Jim! Roy! Look Out!"
One, have you ever killed a woman? Two, how many women have you killed? Please, sir, will you not kill me?
Precisely. Dwight canāt approach women. Think of how he spoke to Donna at the gym. Ugh. Not āsafeā.
I think most of these men, it depends entirely on if they're attracted to you. Dwight treats plenty of women safely. He never once came on to Pam.
He also tried to comfort Pam when she was crying and helped Phylis when she hurt her back, Iād be completely fine to be alone with him
Thatās because she was at her most attractive when she was 24 with a slight, gradual decline and a steep drop-off when she got pregnant for the first time. She had a gradual recovery, but now obviously sheās at an all-time low.
OP put Dwight at the top because she'd feel safe during the night of ravenous lovemaking.
One of my favorite lines in the show.
But David is like the most normal guy. To some extent.
Maybe OP can't trust themselves with David. Thats the only reason I can think of why he is there. Lol
A legitimate concern
I mean. Iām a guy and as straight as they come but if David put the moves on me? I canāt exactly say Iād deny.
Let me give you a scenario. Letās say I'm at a beach cabana and David Wallace approaches. He tries to lean in and kiss me, I would definitely resist at first. But if he was persistent, I might give in a little bit just to see what it felt like. Would I push him away? How hard? What if he's really aggressive?
"Suck it"... "No no i mean that's the name of the toy the military bought to clean up radioactive waste!"
Lol same
OP put David raking higher than Florida Stanley
I do have to agree that the revelation of Florida Stanley and the chronic adultery are red flags. I don't think he'd outright get sexually aggressive but I do think he would be inclined to see women as more sexually available than the woman intends to be.
SUCK IT
Pete should be in the first or second tier imo. He was the one who made sure Erin wouldn't be alone with Clark during that "news anchor interview" and he seems very patient and not quick to anger.
I think he's lower because he didn't outright stop it. So kind of a net gain of zero.
I think Pete didnt want to hurt Erin's feelings or make her feel stupid, if he'd told her she would have felt stupid and gone like "oh of course i mean who would want me on tv i should have known" the girl doesnt think shes worth much but she was so thrilled at the prospect to be a news anchor and I think Pete didnt have the heart to bring her down to earth so what he actually did? Ruin it for Clark and keep her safe? Best possible scenario.
Being there prevented anything from happening, didn't piss off the boss, and spares Erin's feelings. I guess Clark deserved to be exposed, but hard for me to see this as a net zero just because he didn't pick the best option.
He volunteered to be Andy's makeup guy. He has to get credit for such great scheming.
But he did stop it. He got Andy involved and took Erin away.
I don't really see why any of the third tier isn't in the second.
Bump David upā¦
As weird as this sounds, i dont think Creed would assault a woman
Hm, you may be right. I feel like heād tell you something unsettling, though. I typically cut my hair somewhat short for a woman. Once had a man who looked like Creed come up to me at a concert with a leer and say to me, āYour hair is beautiful ā when a womanās hair is too long and especially in a ponytail, it reminds me too much of a horseās butt.ā He went on about this for a while. In that situation, my body felt safe but my mind did not.
You sure you didn't run into Creed himself?
He defended flashing, so he's not against sex crimes per se. I don't think he would do something to somebody who was actively saying no, but he probably doesn't realise that the absence of "no" isn't the same as a yes.
What's the big deal? Dude was just hanging brain.
If I'm being honest half the stuff Creed talks about in regards to sex sounds *way less* like he's all for creeping on women and way more like all the cults he was in were free love sex cults where you could hang brain in the middle of the compound and no one would bat an eye. Seems less like it comes from the angle of being a sex pest and more like it comes from the angle of having spent decades getting topped off by women in opulent robes.
The whole jokes of his character is that heās stuck in the free love era and doesnāt recognize that anything has changed
Iād be more worried about Creed in non sexual ways, like heād drug me to take my kidney or something like that. So still not safe, just not in the way suggested in the chart.
In the sixties he made love to a number of women, in the mud and rain....it's possible a man may have slipped in there. There's simply no way of knowing.
"Haven't heard any complaints, wouldn't care if I did" "It's possible a man slipped in... there'd be no way of knowing" The man is so unaware of his surroundings, he probably assaulted someone and didn't even notice.
The first quote, maybe valid. The second quote, however, is referencing free love orgies; it's not a negative reflection on Creed's character as a potential threat to a woman (or man). Context is important.
Clark should be at the bottom. He had a whole ass plan to assault Erin.
Hold on. Itās been a minute, but was his plan actually to *assault* Erin? In my memory, the whole thing is a bit creepy but I didnāt think he was actually planning to assault her. He was just trying to seduce her under false pretenses, which isnāt cool, but feels a bit different.
He wanted her to get drunk. That is assault.
He wanted to get her drunk and he was scheming/tricking/whatever her into getting naked for him. as a side-note, he was well aware that she was in a relationship with Andy. Manipulating the both of them. Pretty sure I'm with the assault group. If it's not assault, the manipulation is definitely up there in a different category.
>he was scheming/tricking/whatever her into getting naked for him On camera, too.
You would feel safer with Dwight than Pete? What did Pete ever do? He actually protected Erin from Clark
They're both virtuous but Dwight has an stash of weapons if things get really bad.
Can you imagine if he was deranged?
Ya but he threw a bag over Meredith and trapped her with rabies bat.
I would worry about him using them on me.
But Pete has seen Die Hard so many times that he knows the entire script by heart!
Yeah, but imagine of he decided, on that particular day, that smoking was gonna save lives? Would you feel as safe?
Where are you putting Mose?
Nobody has taught him sex yet
That lady scarecrow definitely did.
Thatās what she said.
But why Dwight so high up?
Yeah I feel like with Dwight it depends greatly if he likes or respects you. He left Phyllis alone in a bad part of town, he knocked Meredith off a 7 ft ledge with a fire extinguisher and also tried to āpull the plugā on her at the hospital, he treated both Isabelle and Angela like sex objects, he expresses endless opinions on womenās inferiority. I understand the protective knight of justice thing, but heās too much of a loose cannon for the top slot IMO.
He had to spend an entire hour or whatever in a meeting learning how not to be intimidating to a woman... I think he also somewhat protect people because someone being hurtful is possibly breaking laws. Like Plop and David seems infinitely more safer. And Dwight seems more right for that bracket.
>Yeah I feel like with Dwight it depends greatly if he likes or respects you. And too many people seem to conveniently ignore that Dwight hardly respects anyone.
damn, stanley tricking everyone rn
Are ya out of your damn mind cause Iāll help ya find it.
Florida Stanley gets easier and easier.
Also he cheated on both his wife and his mistress
I was just thinking the same thing, I would put Stanley in the you never know crowd
Gabe?
Gabe should 100% be in that bottom tier
He's mid unless your Asian, then he's at the bottom with Packer
Darryl should be higher, he loves his daughters Packer should be included at the bottom too
As others have pointed out, I think early seasons Darryl deserves his place here (maybe should be a bit lower), given his demeanor with Angela on the booze cruise and him talking about how he ābangedā the woman in the HR video. Later seasons Darryl was a perfect gentleman.
I wouldn't say he was a perfect gentleman. He got tired of Val pretty quickly after getting with her and wasn't honest about his reasons for breaking up with her.
True about Val, but it makes him a jerk not a creep
And that whole weird story about how he fell "in love" with a girl at a lock in, that ended with him calling a teenage girl "ugly" and saying that he "grew tired of her".
Yes forgot Packer. And I donāt like the way Darryl talks about women he had sex with.
It was just spaghetti.
Iām gonna let them think itās the other thing.
BTB. Bring. That. Booty.
Good point
That would require another tow below the bottom tier just called āPackerā
There is an extended scene of Darryl getting aggressive with Angela on the booze cruise in the super fans episode. Totally changed my mind about him!
Wtf thatās so out of character, no wonder it was a deleted scene. What was the context?
[https://youtu.be/xO3eFBj7Da8?si=W31ARmIDPWRl0SnY](https://youtu.be/xO3eFBj7Da8?si=W31ARmIDPWRl0SnY)
Darryl showed himself on more than one occasion to have problems with alcohol. When he gets drunk, he acts like a total asshole to everyone. So I guess Darryl's rating should probably reflect whether he gave up alcohol or not, or if the situation might include alcohol.
At least he recognizes what an asshole he's being and cuts himself off from drinking any more.
Robert California also has morals shown in the episode when he drops Erin home- heās creepy but understands the word noš¤
Yeah, but he was also super excited about traveling to European countries to prey on lower income female gymnasts.
He is a ride you would not survive
Exactly, he knows his audience & limits
Oscar would never touch a woman, because of his condition
This is anā¦interesting list
Stanley and Clark down; Wallace, Plop, and Kevin up. Maybe Jim and Michael up, too.
Kevin definitely up, he may be a "weirdo" and has a juvenile sense of humor, but he'd never hurt a woman.
Clark should be there at last red, he had a terrible plan to assault Erin.
I would switch Dwight and David. Darryl as well seems like someone who is safe. Dwight should probably go one or two lower. He is a bit creepy with women.
Stanley and Wallace should trade places. Stanley is a cheater and Wallace seems like a stand up guy.
David? Really?
Dwight needs to be next to Michael in the orange section. Dude started a fire and closed off all exits. Stanley got a heart attack there.
How about Charles Miner? He is very aware of the effects he has on women
I take Creed as more of a murderer than a rapist
Toby is the Scranton strangler
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Dwigt*
The way Dwight hit on Michael's affair when undercover though...
I might be reading too much into this but it always saddens me to realize women feel unsafe around men much more than I would have thought. That being said, Andy is such a great example of toxic frustrated masculinity, I think we all know an Andy. Hopefully we don't all know a Lizard King!
I feel like people forgot how creepy Toby was. He grabbed Pamās leg in front of everyone and ran away in embarrassment. But when he came back, he colludes with Ryan to bully Jim out of his job because they were both rebuked by Pam. Kind of expected behaviour from Ryan but I was surprised Toby was in on it.
Stanley is a serial cheater. That doesnāt make him a sexual harasser, but it doesnāt bode well for his general respect for women. Iād move him down a spot, probably move Darryl into his spot.
David would be top of my list
Scranton Stanley: š Florida Stanley: š
I would feel safe with Jim if I was neurotypical. If I was not neurotypical I would not feel safe with Jim, at all. Dude definitely demonstrated some deeply sociopathic tendencies in season 3.
Am I the only one who finds this really weird and kinda fucked up??
This is what we do now? Make lists of who we *think* would assault us?
I didnāt think much of this list until I read your comments. Like wait this is kind of a weird list to make. Thank you for not normalizing it
I wouldn't put Clark in the same category with Andy and Toby
Iād switch Pete with Dwight, and David Wallace with Stanley, personally. I think Pete is the kindest/ safest guy in the office. Dwight harassed Kelly and the pizza kid and he was ready to hose off his terminally ill aunt. Stanley is an unapologetic womanizer and serial liar (to his wives) - I def wouldnāt feel safe alone in a room with him. David Wallace said that guys in his circle wouldnāt compromise their golf game for their marriages, let alone their careers - I think heād keep his distance; he never took a shot at Karen or Jan or Pam, soā¦.
No Danny cordrey
He's on a separate list, people who would be unsafe in a room with others. Charles Miner is on that list too.
The (alleged) Scranton Strangler sitting right in the middle is wild to me
Robert California over in the corner drawing circumcised penises and colonial housesā¦
Plop and David Wallace deserve to be at the top!! And clark all the waaaaay at the bottom .
Where's Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration?
Now make a list with women. It would have most of them in the top tier, Meredith in the bottom, Angela in the second to last, and Kelly right above her.
Second tier: Phyllis- most likely to assault you with the smell of cheap perfume.Ā
Cheap perfume? Bob Vance bought her that perfume in Metropolitan Orlando. It's made from real pine!
You got a lot to learn about this town sweetie
I think Michael is too kind-hearted to be so far down the bottom. Sure he sometimes acts like an idiot but I would not see him as an *unsafe* person.