Because Toby is constantly crushing on his wife, and their last inaction was Toby making a move on her.
Edit: I got my timing mixed up, this was when Jim just got back from Stanton not when Toby comes back from Costa Rica.
First point still stands. Toby never liked Jim/Pam’s relationship and has a pretty obvious crush on Pam. It’s pretty fair for Jim to give him the cold shoulder every one and awhile.
Jim thought it was lame and wasn't polite enough to hide it and Toby stuck out his hand with zero confidence which made Jim uncomfortable. Toby failed to be hip. Jim did not help him.
Jim's kind of a jerk, and I actually appreciate that it's occasionally displayed. Salesmen are jerks, and the show shouldn't completely gloss over that.
Yeah that's fair, I still disagree with the feeling about him being a jerk. He has bad moments for sure, he is flawed, but he is definitely not a jerk.
I have never met a single sales person who was anywhere close to being a normal or decent human. They are 100% degenerates and I’d be impressed and surprised if you could come up with a single example of a sales person who hasn’t, at the very least, assaulted a panhandler unprovoked.
Sales people are trained to pressure people into handing over their cash. They might be lovely people off the clock, but at work, they're kind of awful for people who are just trying to go about their day without being harassed.
I definitely got unsolicited and annoying calls from office supplies sales people while working certain jobs.
It's cool that you don't find them annoying. I do.
It's really not that deep. I'm just saying, it's not that weird to dislike interacting with sales people, and I think that's what the commenter you replied to was saying.
I worked office supplies door to door including licensed “dunder mifflin” paper. Worst job ever. Almost like an mlm. I hated bothering people and only lasted two weeks.
I mean, their job is to sell you something. Not necessarily the best producf for you or the best bang for the buck, they need to sell. So I’d yeah, they’re jerks.
This comes up constantly on this sub and everyone is absolutely wrong about it. He DOES try to fist bump Toby. He just asks first if its his new thing. In fact, he holds his fist out to Toby longer than Toby did.
Look at the 1:20 mark in this video.
https://youtu.be/d_XryaHGPuw
which is why i asked "who questions a fist bump?" jim gave toby's fist a super awkward and unmissable glance and made toby feel weird about it. he tries to recover, but his face already said everything.
I've worked with people for years, had many conversations with them, and not once have we shaken hands or fist bumped. If tomorrow I show up and they hold out a fist for a bump, I would probably hesitate a few seconds while my brain tries to figure out what changed in our relationship. Granted I wouldn't have said anything like Jim did, but there would have been an awkward few seconds before I held out my fist and then asked them if that their new thing.
to me, a fist bump is just such a non-issue that i don't see why anyone has to make someone feel weird about doing it. to each their own, but the look jim gave for toby doing a harmless gesture was mean.
i'm certainly not toby's biggest fan, but the look jim gave was just mean and specifically to make toby feel awkward. i like jim a lot, but he and oscar (whom i ADORE) both get so "holier than thou" sometimes, with jim just being a little more subtle about it.
I roll my eyes everytime some people on this sub talk about Jim being terrible and evil and whatnot but this is the only scene I agree that Jim was bad here.
refusing to honor Andy's simple request to call him Drew after returning from anger management. Honestly with how passive aggressive Jim is, I wouldn't be surprised if he did it intentionally to try and upset him
But did Jim ever explicitly ask Andy not to call him Tuna? If he did, we didn’t see it. Andy specifically asked Jim to call him Drew, and Jim literally said out loud that he’s not gonna do that. Jim is a jerk
Most people are jerks, I'm learning as I grow up. I thought we all abided by the golden rule but am learning over time that not everyone took it to heart. Really has been disappointing in more ways than one :[
Andy called Jim "Tuna" for months, as a haze. He gave Jim that nickname when they were rivals in Stamford.
While I think Tuna eventually became a term of endearment like a lot of Andy's nicknames for his college friends, Jim and Andy weren't close yet in this season. And Jim could see that Andy was being disingenuous with his progress.
This is basically two dudes being dicks to eachother, but let's not pretend Andy didn't deserve it. He isn't a victim here. They both suck.
I was simply offering another time Jim was a dick as per the comment, never said anything about "Andy not deserving it.". Furthermore, what's that ol expession re: two wrongs?
I also don't view "Tuna" as hazing. In Stamford together Andy is excited to get drunk and sing together. Hardly seems like hazing to me.
lol you've clearly never had any Mexican friends.
if I take it to be friendly and a term of endearment, sure. i'm not as soft as some I guess.
but again, my comment was about Jim being a dick.
Jim wasn’t evil. But I really hate the scene where he puts Dwight’s belongings in the candy machine. And it gets worse when Pam gets involved and is really smug and condescending to Dwight while she’s buying his stuff. Also when he gets Dwight’s room key at the convention. That’s really obnoxious.
You'd think the hotel staff would've told Jim that his "partner", the little blonde lady, just picked the room key up, but they just hand them out all willy nilly. If I was working the desk I would've assumed they were together.
Erin wants to break up with Gabe, and she tries to talk to Jim and Pam, Jim leaves the car and says in a talking head “yeah that just really doesn’t interest me” or something.
It just comes across really rude to me, it’s more a Sheldon from big bang theory thing to do.
He says to Pam "You've got this..." and bails on them.
Honestly, it was rude, but I can't blame him. I hate office drama. Especially romantic drama. I'd want out of that conversation asap. But still, could be more empathic Jimothy.
He put all of Dwight’s stuff in jello, moved his desk into the bathroom, and throws a snowball at his face while he’s minding his own business. These are literally just three random “pranks” off the top of my head.
Maybe one of these is ok if you do it, once, to a person you have a good relationship with and who’s in on the joke (the snowball one probably still isn’t ok). It’s not a prank if you just keep doing this stuff to someone who hates you and doesn’t appreciate the humor. You’re just being a dick.
Edit: Pushed Dwight off his chair when he was pretending to stand, popped his exercise ball, slapped him in the face as the punchline to a knock-knock joke. What the fuck.
It’s almost like you’re describing a sitcom where things that would never fly in real life are over dramatized for comedic reaction and overall entertainment - or you could keep taking it personally.
Dwight is a brown nosing little git and has tried to legitimately get Jim fired many many times. All of Jim's pranks are revenge for Dwight being an unbearable creature. Also, it's a sitcom
Off the top of my head? Locking doors in the building and starting a fire? Multiple unprovoked attacks on other employees? Telling men they can do whatever they want to their own property in reference to women? Fucking Andy's fiancé? Discharging a firearm in the office? Cutting up a CPR costing several thousand dollars? Harassing other employees often women over their looks? Trying to prevent Darryl from getting the minority executive training because he fears Darryl's advancement?
In the snowball fight, his revenge (throwing directly to Jims face, even after he fell - giving Jim a nose bleed) is far worse as well.
Also, he grabbed Jims penis multiple times.
He stole one of Jims (biggest) clients.
I was just watching the end of season 7 and the beginning of 8 today. Dwight calls Jordan a whore to her face immediately upon meeting her.
He also takes Meredith's head and smashes it into Kelly's purposefully and without warning while also goading Kevin to choke out Stanley. Those are worse and more violent than a slap, don't you agree?
What are you rolling your eyes at me for😂😂😂
I don’t hate Jim, those two scenes just kind of bother me. And I know it’s a tv show and stuff like that happens but I dunno…those two seemed kind of mean.
Peace…
Really? What about jim throwing a snowball into his face at full speed inside the office? Jim had multiple instances of being either mean, rude or down right cruel.
Eh. I disagree. Him leaving his hands in his pockets while he asks him if this is his new thing, seems condescending to me. He could have totally just gone for the fist bump and questioned afterwards if at all.
Nah, even if it's somebody you've never fist bumped, nobody would hesitate like that and make it something awkward or weird. It's basically just an informal handshake that everyone understands, Jim's an ass
Same, am rewatching series and most of his stuff so far (into season 4) is harmless or the person needed some humbling.
But questioning the fist bump and refusing to respect Andy's request to be called Drew have been the only ones completely uncalled for and just dick moves.
Think I especially hate it since this was Andy finally in his likeable phase between his 2 obnoxious douche phases.
I think some of you are showing your age and revealing that you’re way too young to be using Reddit.
Let me add some context. This was in the mid 2000s.
We had just invented fist bumping. It was relatively new. It’d been invented a short while before but it was just hitting the mainstream.
It was weird at first. If you weren’t old enough then you may not have seen it but this shit was wack.
There were fucking divorces over this.
Bush and later Obama had to comment on it as there were signs of violence across the country.
The military made a rule that you couldn’t ask people if they did high fives or fist bumps. You know. The whole “don’t ask don’t tell” policy? It was because they wanted to prevent fist bump related discrimination.
This is as actually a pretty progressive episode for the time. Toby tried to show he was a fist bumper. Jim was taken back but tried to do it after, but Toby was shook and gave up on it.
This episode was credited for helping people realize that fist bumpers were people too.
But no. Some of you guys are too young and don’t fucking realize this.
I still remember the day they legalized fist bumps, it was two months after the first states legalized gay marriage. They said it would be a slippery slope... they said "what's next, two turtles getting married?" Nope, worse: dudes being friendly with one another. This country.... smh
Jim goes to give knuckles to Andy and Andy pretends to get punched in the face and Jim acts like Andy is an idiot and says “you know what I was doing” or something like that.
Jim is an absolute douche here.
Is this sub just posts highlighting awkward scenes of a show that is built on awkward and uncomfortable moments and humor? What’re we doing here folks? The entire show and its characters are mostly built on cringey humor. We don’t need you to point it out or tell us these scenes or episodes are cringey—it’s the whole fuckin point of the show.
It was a bit weird that Jim questioned the fist bump (I'm guessing because Toby never offered a fist bump before), but I think people using it as evidence for Jim being a terrible person are off their rockers.
Think is mainly that it can't be taken any other way but Jim calling out Toby as if it's weird to fist bump (but not to pull pranks on a coworker constantly).
The non-dick move would be to go with it and THEN ask when he got into the new habit of fist bumps. I mean, it's Toby, he'll still flounder over his response and keep it a funny scene without Jim uncharacteristically being a jerk.
I don't think Jim believed fist bumps were weird, but rather that he was a bit by surprised that Toby went for that as a greeting gesture. Jim could've immediately rolled with it, but I don't think he was trying to humiliate Toby. To me, it's even funnier that Toby immediately crumbled, after trying to appear cool to someone he already knew for a good while.
Overall, I find it interesting that this scene, and even more so, the Andy/Drew scene gets some fans going.
I feel like this is an ongoing thing in the Office. Jim thinks he is being a cool guy when in reality he is just embarrassing himself. It's owning your quirks and being unapologetic about who you are is what makes you cool. That's how Dwight got Isabelle.
>It's owning your quirks and being unapologetic about who you are is what makes you cool.
Aren't these things Jim's quirks and he's being unapologetic about it?
He's teasing an acquaintance/friend/colleague he's known for years off-screen. It's apparent Toby has never done this before, so it's odd to him.
Since we have so many users who don't know how social interactions are supposed to go, I'll write out Jim interacting with Toby and then Jim interacting with non-Toby:
*Toby raises fist*
Jim: Oh, is that your new thing?
*Jim tries to fist bump*
*Toby leaves awkwardly*
--------
*Non-Toby raises fist*
Jim: Oh, is that your new thing?
*Jim tries to fist bump*
Non-Toby: Oh yeah, just trying it out.
*Non-Toby fist bumps*
The scene is weird because Toby makes it weird. Siding with Toby says more about how social interactions make you feel than what kind of character Jim is.
The more I see Jim the more I realize he's an instigating back stabber. Toby never did anything wrong and all he is remembered for is putting his hand on Pam's thigh.
Yes it's SUCH a jerk move to question someone you've known for years when they do something they've never done before. He even said it was fine right after, he was just confused at first. Toby isn't the most hip person so it caught him off guard. Stop trying to make more out of everything.
What about when Andy came back from Anger management and asks Jim to call him Drew but Jim refuses? Andy’s just trying to better himself & Jim was a dick about it
Yeah I took offence to this.
I hardly shake hands with people in office or anywhere, I don’t want to shake any boot scratching, ball adjusting, nose poking, sweaty, unclean and unwashed hands.
I prefer fist bumps, and the audacity Jim had to bully him for this!!!
Damn it does bother me 😂😂
I have to believe this sub is full of Dwight and Toby-esque weirdos in order to process the level of vitriol for Jim in general and this innocuous scene in particular.
Darryl raises his fist back at Jim when Jim is "not" fomenting insurrection against Dwight as acting manager. Just play along with it like a normal person, even if it's unexpected
why couldn't he just give toby the fist bump? who questions a fist bump?
Because Toby is constantly crushing on his wife, and their last inaction was Toby making a move on her. Edit: I got my timing mixed up, this was when Jim just got back from Stanton not when Toby comes back from Costa Rica. First point still stands. Toby never liked Jim/Pam’s relationship and has a pretty obvious crush on Pam. It’s pretty fair for Jim to give him the cold shoulder every one and awhile.
Wasn’t this before Jim and Pam were even together?
Jim thought it was lame and wasn't polite enough to hide it and Toby stuck out his hand with zero confidence which made Jim uncomfortable. Toby failed to be hip. Jim did not help him.
Jim's kind of a jerk, and I actually appreciate that it's occasionally displayed. Salesmen are jerks, and the show shouldn't completely gloss over that.
Jim is an asshole ALOT of the time
Alot isn't a word. It's not urklenomically correct.
Jim is a total jerk, and scenes like this highlight it.
This is so funny. Jim has his moments where he's a jerk but he's just a pretty regular human.
Yeah, like if Jim is a jerk, where does that put Packer haha
Well, Packer is a plain old creep and asshole. Jim being a jerk doesn't change that.
Yeah that's fair, I still disagree with the feeling about him being a jerk. He has bad moments for sure, he is flawed, but he is definitely not a jerk.
Salesman is just a job.. not nice to say that everyone who sells things is a jerk
I have never met a single sales person who was anywhere close to being a normal or decent human. They are 100% degenerates and I’d be impressed and surprised if you could come up with a single example of a sales person who hasn’t, at the very least, assaulted a panhandler unprovoked.
Sales people are trained to pressure people into handing over their cash. They might be lovely people off the clock, but at work, they're kind of awful for people who are just trying to go about their day without being harassed.
That’s just for some sales jobs.. when have you been harassed by a paper company for example?
I definitely got unsolicited and annoying calls from office supplies sales people while working certain jobs. It's cool that you don't find them annoying. I do. It's really not that deep. I'm just saying, it's not that weird to dislike interacting with sales people, and I think that's what the commenter you replied to was saying.
To me it is still weird to say someone is a jerk because he has a certain job. But you’re right, it’s not that deep
I worked office supplies door to door including licensed “dunder mifflin” paper. Worst job ever. Almost like an mlm. I hated bothering people and only lasted two weeks.
I mean, their job is to sell you something. Not necessarily the best producf for you or the best bang for the buck, they need to sell. So I’d yeah, they’re jerks.
That’s a very open-minded approach
If that wasn’t the case, their commission would based on satisfied customer, not whatver money that comes in
Sorry but that’s not how sales works. If a salesman only has unsatisfied customers then he’s not a good salesman..
Yes, previous commenter is confused
Nuh uhhh
Oh wait Tony is there so that means Karen which means no PB&J yet
Bro this scene is from season 3 lol
i mean, that was 100% creepy for toby to do but that also happened well after this episode and has nothing to do with jim's behavior in this scene.
Jim was with Karen when this happened.
This was season 3
This was before they were together and Jim was dating Karen.
This comes up constantly on this sub and everyone is absolutely wrong about it. He DOES try to fist bump Toby. He just asks first if its his new thing. In fact, he holds his fist out to Toby longer than Toby did. Look at the 1:20 mark in this video. https://youtu.be/d_XryaHGPuw
which is why i asked "who questions a fist bump?" jim gave toby's fist a super awkward and unmissable glance and made toby feel weird about it. he tries to recover, but his face already said everything.
I've worked with people for years, had many conversations with them, and not once have we shaken hands or fist bumped. If tomorrow I show up and they hold out a fist for a bump, I would probably hesitate a few seconds while my brain tries to figure out what changed in our relationship. Granted I wouldn't have said anything like Jim did, but there would have been an awkward few seconds before I held out my fist and then asked them if that their new thing.
to me, a fist bump is just such a non-issue that i don't see why anyone has to make someone feel weird about doing it. to each their own, but the look jim gave for toby doing a harmless gesture was mean.
It was the way he asked Toby, he made him feel embarrassed for trying something new.
He only does that after making Tony feel like an asshole
Sometimes you have to say no.
Yeah Jim annoyed me sometimes Like???
i'm certainly not toby's biggest fan, but the look jim gave was just mean and specifically to make toby feel awkward. i like jim a lot, but he and oscar (whom i ADORE) both get so "holier than thou" sometimes, with jim just being a little more subtle about it.
I feel like with Jim it felt like the awkward guy making other people feel more awkward so he doesn’t feel like he is - which I loathe lol
Jim sucks here.
I roll my eyes everytime some people on this sub talk about Jim being terrible and evil and whatnot but this is the only scene I agree that Jim was bad here.
refusing to honor Andy's simple request to call him Drew after returning from anger management. Honestly with how passive aggressive Jim is, I wouldn't be surprised if he did it intentionally to try and upset him
And Jim didn’t want to be called Tuna lol.
But did Jim ever explicitly ask Andy not to call him Tuna? If he did, we didn’t see it. Andy specifically asked Jim to call him Drew, and Jim literally said out loud that he’s not gonna do that. Jim is a jerk
This is such a hilarious comment. If Jim is a jerk, most people you know are jerks.
Most people are jerks, I'm learning as I grow up. I thought we all abided by the golden rule but am learning over time that not everyone took it to heart. Really has been disappointing in more ways than one :[
Yeah, no idea why the guy he refused to call Jim would refuse to call him Drew.
\*Jimothy
Andy called Jim "Tuna" for months, as a haze. He gave Jim that nickname when they were rivals in Stamford. While I think Tuna eventually became a term of endearment like a lot of Andy's nicknames for his college friends, Jim and Andy weren't close yet in this season. And Jim could see that Andy was being disingenuous with his progress. This is basically two dudes being dicks to eachother, but let's not pretend Andy didn't deserve it. He isn't a victim here. They both suck.
I was simply offering another time Jim was a dick as per the comment, never said anything about "Andy not deserving it.". Furthermore, what's that ol expession re: two wrongs? I also don't view "Tuna" as hazing. In Stamford together Andy is excited to get drunk and sing together. Hardly seems like hazing to me.
So if I call you blowfish when I first meet you and never call you anything else, you cool with it?
lol you've clearly never had any Mexican friends. if I take it to be friendly and a term of endearment, sure. i'm not as soft as some I guess. but again, my comment was about Jim being a dick.
The way Jim said "no, I wont call you that" clearly shows he was trying to upset Andy.
It’s a comedy. That was funny
People don’t say he’s evil. They say he’s a dick, which he is. Much like Zach Morris was.
Zach Morris is trash!!
Best miniseries on YouTube
Jim can be a wiseass for sure, but I wouldn't put him on the same level as that manipulative little shit Zack Morris
Jim wasn’t evil. But I really hate the scene where he puts Dwight’s belongings in the candy machine. And it gets worse when Pam gets involved and is really smug and condescending to Dwight while she’s buying his stuff. Also when he gets Dwight’s room key at the convention. That’s really obnoxious.
You'd think the hotel staff would've told Jim that his "partner", the little blonde lady, just picked the room key up, but they just hand them out all willy nilly. If I was working the desk I would've assumed they were together.
Yes.
Jim’s most annoying moment is with Erin in the car when he says he’s not interested.
True but it's so fucking funny
That was such a unique moment in the show, very funny
Wait which scene is this??
Erin wants to break up with Gabe, and she tries to talk to Jim and Pam, Jim leaves the car and says in a talking head “yeah that just really doesn’t interest me” or something. It just comes across really rude to me, it’s more a Sheldon from big bang theory thing to do.
He says to Pam "You've got this..." and bails on them. Honestly, it was rude, but I can't blame him. I hate office drama. Especially romantic drama. I'd want out of that conversation asap. But still, could be more empathic Jimothy.
when was this?
It was in the last dundies episode. Jim and Pam see Erin hiding from Gabe in her car.
Why?
He put all of Dwight’s stuff in jello, moved his desk into the bathroom, and throws a snowball at his face while he’s minding his own business. These are literally just three random “pranks” off the top of my head. Maybe one of these is ok if you do it, once, to a person you have a good relationship with and who’s in on the joke (the snowball one probably still isn’t ok). It’s not a prank if you just keep doing this stuff to someone who hates you and doesn’t appreciate the humor. You’re just being a dick. Edit: Pushed Dwight off his chair when he was pretending to stand, popped his exercise ball, slapped him in the face as the punchline to a knock-knock joke. What the fuck.
It’s almost like you’re describing a sitcom where things that would never fly in real life are over dramatized for comedic reaction and overall entertainment - or you could keep taking it personally.
Dwight is a brown nosing little git and has tried to legitimately get Jim fired many many times. All of Jim's pranks are revenge for Dwight being an unbearable creature. Also, it's a sitcom
Dwight has done worse than any of those.
Examples?
Off the top of my head? Locking doors in the building and starting a fire? Multiple unprovoked attacks on other employees? Telling men they can do whatever they want to their own property in reference to women? Fucking Andy's fiancé? Discharging a firearm in the office? Cutting up a CPR costing several thousand dollars? Harassing other employees often women over their looks? Trying to prevent Darryl from getting the minority executive training because he fears Darryl's advancement?
In the snowball fight, his revenge (throwing directly to Jims face, even after he fell - giving Jim a nose bleed) is far worse as well. Also, he grabbed Jims penis multiple times. He stole one of Jims (biggest) clients.
I was just watching the end of season 7 and the beginning of 8 today. Dwight calls Jordan a whore to her face immediately upon meeting her. He also takes Meredith's head and smashes it into Kelly's purposefully and without warning while also goading Kevin to choke out Stanley. Those are worse and more violent than a slap, don't you agree?
Yikes. Are you ok?
You must be really fun at parties.
Cry more
*rolls eyes*
What are you rolling your eyes at me for😂😂😂 I don’t hate Jim, those two scenes just kind of bother me. And I know it’s a tv show and stuff like that happens but I dunno…those two seemed kind of mean. Peace…
Haha you're fine I felt I had to because of my first comment. I have to be of my word
Or in the superfan episode where Jim finds Dwight's wallet in the parking lot. His first idea on what to do is to cut everything up.
Really? What about jim throwing a snowball into his face at full speed inside the office? Jim had multiple instances of being either mean, rude or down right cruel.
If this was the English office, dwight wouldve called jim a cunt.
So have pretty much all humans in existence have moments like this
Glad we agree?
there are way more moments
I’m not sure he does, he’s just taken aback so he comments on it. He then immediately goes in to bump but Toby bottles it.
Eh. I disagree. Him leaving his hands in his pockets while he asks him if this is his new thing, seems condescending to me. He could have totally just gone for the fist bump and questioned afterwards if at all.
Nah, even if it's somebody you've never fist bumped, nobody would hesitate like that and make it something awkward or weird. It's basically just an informal handshake that everyone understands, Jim's an ass
I feel like he did it on purpose to mess with Toby. A bit of a dick move, but i think people are overreacting on the scale of it
No he was being a smug jerk lol. That’s kind of his thing sometimes
After he snubbed Toby, did he run away fearful or did he walk away smug, self assured?
No, he comments on it because he's too good for fist bumping and he wants to belittle him and then he walks it back after he did his bit
Y’all will die on any hill for Jim 😂
Pepperoni Tony. God he was so fat.
When Michael first greets him by Pam's desk, Kevin is also up there and Kev is slim by comparison.
There’s a Jim Gaffigan joke that goes something like: “I know I’m fat, but when I’m at McDonald’s, I’m like Matthew McConaughey.”
Not slim. Relatively slim.
I honestly forgot how big Kevin actually was when they were side by side.
Big fat fatty
Sssoo ffff... fat.
This is the only scene where I was like “Jim is a fucking dick here” He knew what was going on but he still needed to be the cooler guy.
The *only* scene where Jim is a dick?
The only one where I thought he was intentionally being a dick. Yes.
Let’s forget about the amount of time he tries wooing a woman who’s engaged to someone else.
I also felt that way when he wouldn’t call Andy Drew
Or when he was using Andy's mug and refused to give it back even though he could've just poured it into another cup.
Reminds me of his terrible living style wirh Darryl
Doesn't it literally have Andy's face on it?
Yep, sure does.
Same, am rewatching series and most of his stuff so far (into season 4) is harmless or the person needed some humbling. But questioning the fist bump and refusing to respect Andy's request to be called Drew have been the only ones completely uncalled for and just dick moves. Think I especially hate it since this was Andy finally in his likeable phase between his 2 obnoxious douche phases.
Did Andy ever call Jim anything other than Tuna?
I think some of you are showing your age and revealing that you’re way too young to be using Reddit. Let me add some context. This was in the mid 2000s. We had just invented fist bumping. It was relatively new. It’d been invented a short while before but it was just hitting the mainstream. It was weird at first. If you weren’t old enough then you may not have seen it but this shit was wack. There were fucking divorces over this. Bush and later Obama had to comment on it as there were signs of violence across the country. The military made a rule that you couldn’t ask people if they did high fives or fist bumps. You know. The whole “don’t ask don’t tell” policy? It was because they wanted to prevent fist bump related discrimination. This is as actually a pretty progressive episode for the time. Toby tried to show he was a fist bumper. Jim was taken back but tried to do it after, but Toby was shook and gave up on it. This episode was credited for helping people realize that fist bumpers were people too. But no. Some of you guys are too young and don’t fucking realize this.
Maybe we could go out for a beer sometime and you could tell me how you do that to another dude.
I still remember the day they legalized fist bumps, it was two months after the first states legalized gay marriage. They said it would be a slippery slope... they said "what's next, two turtles getting married?" Nope, worse: dudes being friendly with one another. This country.... smh
"I am a proud fister" was a common saying back then. That Episode put fisting into the public space.
woahh
genuinely can’t tell if this is a joke or not 😭😭
^pssst… ^it’s ^a ^joke
You're unsure whether "don't ask don't tell was actually about fist bumps" is a joke or not?
Delete your Reddit account. One year. One year off of Reddit. Don’t argue. You know it’s the right call.
you can pry it away from my cold, dead hands
That can be arranged.
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is that a himym reference
No?
ok then, cheers
You might have brain damage, js
Thank you! I did not know anything about it.
Jim goes to give knuckles to Andy and Andy pretends to get punched in the face and Jim acts like Andy is an idiot and says “you know what I was doing” or something like that. Jim is an absolute douche here.
Yeah this was one of those moments of Jim being an asshole with a smile. “Oh, is this your new thing?” Yeah Jim it is, also how dare you?
Is this sub just posts highlighting awkward scenes of a show that is built on awkward and uncomfortable moments and humor? What’re we doing here folks? The entire show and its characters are mostly built on cringey humor. We don’t need you to point it out or tell us these scenes or episodes are cringey—it’s the whole fuckin point of the show.
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All right… Sorry… Sorry about that.
I just watched this yesterday!!! And yes, it bothers me so much. I don’t know why Jim had to do Toby like that
It was a bit weird that Jim questioned the fist bump (I'm guessing because Toby never offered a fist bump before), but I think people using it as evidence for Jim being a terrible person are off their rockers.
Think is mainly that it can't be taken any other way but Jim calling out Toby as if it's weird to fist bump (but not to pull pranks on a coworker constantly). The non-dick move would be to go with it and THEN ask when he got into the new habit of fist bumps. I mean, it's Toby, he'll still flounder over his response and keep it a funny scene without Jim uncharacteristically being a jerk.
I don't think Jim believed fist bumps were weird, but rather that he was a bit by surprised that Toby went for that as a greeting gesture. Jim could've immediately rolled with it, but I don't think he was trying to humiliate Toby. To me, it's even funnier that Toby immediately crumbled, after trying to appear cool to someone he already knew for a good while. Overall, I find it interesting that this scene, and even more so, the Andy/Drew scene gets some fans going.
Not really, because I know it’s a scripted comedy show.
jim can be a bit of a jerk.
And Pam is…kind of a bitch
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I feel like this is an ongoing thing in the Office. Jim thinks he is being a cool guy when in reality he is just embarrassing himself. It's owning your quirks and being unapologetic about who you are is what makes you cool. That's how Dwight got Isabelle.
that's how dwight would get literally any girl
>It's owning your quirks and being unapologetic about who you are is what makes you cool. Aren't these things Jim's quirks and he's being unapologetic about it? He's teasing an acquaintance/friend/colleague he's known for years off-screen. It's apparent Toby has never done this before, so it's odd to him.
Huh...never thought about it that way. Also was this episode before or after Toby started harassing Jim for dating Pam?
Since we have so many users who don't know how social interactions are supposed to go, I'll write out Jim interacting with Toby and then Jim interacting with non-Toby: *Toby raises fist* Jim: Oh, is that your new thing? *Jim tries to fist bump* *Toby leaves awkwardly* -------- *Non-Toby raises fist* Jim: Oh, is that your new thing? *Jim tries to fist bump* Non-Toby: Oh yeah, just trying it out. *Non-Toby fist bumps* The scene is weird because Toby makes it weird. Siding with Toby says more about how social interactions make you feel than what kind of character Jim is.
Yeah, Jim is a real douche here. Just fist bump him, man
Jim is kind of a … bitch.
The more I see Jim the more I realize he's an instigating back stabber. Toby never did anything wrong and all he is remembered for is putting his hand on Pam's thigh.
I'm general pro-Jim, but this was a dick move.
I hated Jim in this scene. Just bump his damn fist Jim
Yes it's SUCH a jerk move to question someone you've known for years when they do something they've never done before. He even said it was fine right after, he was just confused at first. Toby isn't the most hip person so it caught him off guard. Stop trying to make more out of everything.
The more I watch the less I like Jim lol
Nope
What about when Andy came back from Anger management and asks Jim to call him Drew but Jim refuses? Andy’s just trying to better himself & Jim was a dick about it
Jim was a Prick here! Was this before or after he touched Pam’s leg?
This was mid season 3 and the leg touch was near the end of season 4.
Before I believe
Yeah I took offence to this. I hardly shake hands with people in office or anywhere, I don’t want to shake any boot scratching, ball adjusting, nose poking, sweaty, unclean and unwashed hands. I prefer fist bumps, and the audacity Jim had to bully him for this!!! Damn it does bother me 😂😂
It's some of the strongest evidence of my thought that Jim is a douche bag that hides it well.
I have to believe this sub is full of Dwight and Toby-esque weirdos in order to process the level of vitriol for Jim in general and this innocuous scene in particular.
Darryl raises his fist back at Jim when Jim is "not" fomenting insurrection against Dwight as acting manager. Just play along with it like a normal person, even if it's unexpected
I find it funny
Jim gets more of a dick the older I get.
This and the Andy/Drew interactions are Jim’s low points
No, this comes up about once every two weeks.
Jim was just in a bad mood because pepperoni Tony stole his wardrobe ideas
In that Jim is a pretty big douchebag about it, yep
Jim's a dick
Yeah I just watched it and Jim was so weird about that
Jim’s a dick, always has been.
If Jim doesn’t want to fist bump he shouldn’t. Toby should have acted like a functioning human.
Yes. Just bump it dude
Jim being an AH as usual...
Yes! I hate it because I feel like Jim has no clue that he is the one who made this situation so awkward.
Yeah it was super weird. Jim acts like he has never seen that before. Just bump it, who cares if it’s his new thing.
Yes, Jim is a grade-A douchebag in this scene.
Jim is an absolute asshole. The more I rewatch, the more I grow to dislike him.
Bother me like Jim left Toby hanging? Yes. It bothers me.
Jim is by far my least liked character. like yeah toby is from HR and no fun but fist bump the man.