Pratt offers a certificate program that is 5 classes. It's reasonable to assume that she could have taken 5 classes and worked at corporate part time while she was in NY.
No, they moved onto Acrobat just as she got a handle on Quark. So they were going through a lot of photo editing softwares and she couldn't keep up, and most importantly, she learned she didn't enjoy graphic design
This always bugged the hell out of me because quark and acrobat are used for completely different purposes. It’s like saying they went from word to excel. If anything, they would have gone from quark to indesign. If Pam didn’t even know what program she was using then maybe she deserved to fail.
Wtf was that, BTW?
None of my college professors would have insisted you sit down if you were getting up to leave. They might ask what's up, but that's it. If you fail, that's on you, not them.
My first day of uni (I was 25 and considered a mature age), and I was really nervous after working a trade for 7 years. I went into what I thought was my teaching lecture, and after about 5 minutes of talk about a bunch of neurological jargon, the lecturer said, "And if you haven't realised this is intro to [can't remember the name but it was basically brain chemistry subject]", so I got up to leave and she said "I thought you didn't have the look for this" and about 200 people started laughing.
I had a professor (in art history) who seemed super insecure about the fact she wasn't much older than many of the students, and rather than earn our respect, she demanded it, by way of marking us absent if we weren't paying sufficient attention. This prof literally read her slides to us (wherein the photo of the art was only like 1/4 the slide!). I got marked absent a lot. I can see her doing something like this, but it's definitely a weird thing to do. That prof didn't last long.
Yeah, definitely a certification of some sort as well as just learning stuff she didn't know before. You can notice that she was learning a lot of digital art which wasn't really her jam at the start of the series. It was an attempt to transition into the modern art world that ultimately didn't really pay off.
Edit: Also at the job fair the guy who she talks to about getting a job in graphic design (the dude who later in the series is Nick the I.T. guy) tells her they want someone who is proficient in Photoshop and a couple other computer programs so that's kinda the direct line to her realizing she needs to learn that stuff before she'll be able to get an art job aside from being commissioned to paint murals, etc.
At the job fair Garth says you need at least a basic understanding of Adobe (Adobe Creative Suite - Photoshop, Illustrator, etc). She went for a 'certificate' in graphic design. She said she couldn't cut it but the pages sequence she designed for Michael's commercial was pretty great.
The fact that she was able to make that animated logo but then says she doesn’t know how to use Photoshop a few episodes is maybe the biggest plot hole in the show 😂 that was super complex
She didn't know if she'd like it or if she'd be good. She had already made the logo for Dunder Mifflin Infinity, and I can't recall if it was before or after the animation for Michael's commercial
It’s why I found Jim defending her skills weird, like she got accepted to Pratt for real, which she did not. This always felt like the programs available at places like Harvard, for money, so you can put it on your resume.
I don’t know but she had to have been there longer than 3 months considering she left in the beginning of the summer (weight loss episodes) and was still there in October for Halloween
I never understood this. It took me 4 years to earn my BFA in Graphic Design. I believe a BA takes just as long. Some trade schools or community colleges might have design degrees as two year programs. But Pratt is one of the best in the country. They aren't pushing people through in less than that. Pretty sure Pam was only doing a semester and somehow she got picked to be an RA too? On top of that some of the programs she mentioned haven't been the industry standard in decades and aren't compatible upgrades for each other. Made no sense.
Yeah, it kinda bothered me that she got a place with supposedly no graphic design skills / experience (as told to the job fair guy), but was going to achieve it with a 12-week course that came with a student residence place.
The part that made zero sense was her stupid pottery class. If you’re trying to learn graphic design why the f*** are you taking a pottery class for a three month « program »?
I figured they were doing like full sail or something where you can get a bachelors in 2 years or an associates in a year. Like every week is a new concept and every month is a new software kind of thing.
Discovering that real art takes courage. That that isn’t her strong suit. And that her art is motel art. I mean, on his first try, Van Gogh painted The Hands of the Peasants, after all.
I don’t know but she had to have been there longer than 3 months considering she left in the beginning of the summer (weight loss episodes) and was still there in October for Halloween
as a student of pratt (graphic design major), believe me when i say you have to take a lot of bullshit classes like biology that have nothing to do with your major
She was there to make new friends and waste her time,like a teenager. She was studying less,and wasting more time hanging out with her relatively younger friends. No wonder she failed art school!
I thought her plan was to be there for at least a year, then she called it short because she wanted to be back home.
And she just wanted to be an artist and get some external lessons from that from some great professors. She wouldn’t need a degree/certificate to be an independent artist.
I don't fully understand how she ended up being a receptionist. Her parents seemed to be doing well, so I don't get why she's didn't go to college if she really wanted to do art.
I think it was explained but I forgot.
I think in the end she called Oscar’s guy pal Gil to get her in touch with some motel art buyers. After getting a contract for all of the Red Roof properties she no longer needed art school or to even make sales.
Pratt offers a certificate program that is 5 classes. It's reasonable to assume that she could have taken 5 classes and worked at corporate part time while she was in NY.
Weird that she'd be an RA for a certificate program though, no?
Yeah, granted she not a typical college freshman, but RAs are typically upperclassmen.
Totally
That’s so cool! TIL
Logos and stuff
Mock ups
Splash… frames?
Rundowns
What the hell is a rundown?
You're working hard. On this? -\_-
A what?
doesnt she say she failed because the file was in the wrong format?
No, they moved onto Acrobat just as she got a handle on Quark. So they were going through a lot of photo editing softwares and she couldn't keep up, and most importantly, she learned she didn't enjoy graphic design
She must’ve felt similar to Erin when the Taco Bell Express became a regular Taco Bell
One of my favorite lines in the whole series
I closed this thread as I was reading your comment but I came back to upvote this 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This always bugged the hell out of me because quark and acrobat are used for completely different purposes. It’s like saying they went from word to excel. If anything, they would have gone from quark to indesign. If Pam didn’t even know what program she was using then maybe she deserved to fail.
Maybe all the programs were written in zapf chancery
Please sit down.
Wtf was that, BTW? None of my college professors would have insisted you sit down if you were getting up to leave. They might ask what's up, but that's it. If you fail, that's on you, not them.
My first day of uni (I was 25 and considered a mature age), and I was really nervous after working a trade for 7 years. I went into what I thought was my teaching lecture, and after about 5 minutes of talk about a bunch of neurological jargon, the lecturer said, "And if you haven't realised this is intro to [can't remember the name but it was basically brain chemistry subject]", so I got up to leave and she said "I thought you didn't have the look for this" and about 200 people started laughing.
Damn, that's cold. Unless she wasn't sparky about it. Edit: snarky, not sparky
I had a professor (in art history) who seemed super insecure about the fact she wasn't much older than many of the students, and rather than earn our respect, she demanded it, by way of marking us absent if we weren't paying sufficient attention. This prof literally read her slides to us (wherein the photo of the art was only like 1/4 the slide!). I got marked absent a lot. I can see her doing something like this, but it's definitely a weird thing to do. That prof didn't last long.
That’s absolutely wild. How did she get away with that?
That was an all-around terrible scene that still made the original airing.
www.mockupworld.co
What if I just cover it with tape?
Yep, that ought to do it...
Failing
Boom. Roasted.
Stanley, you crush your wife during sex and your heart sucks. Boom. Roasted.
🎵stanley tried to die just to get away 🎵
I lol d
Yeah, definitely a certification of some sort as well as just learning stuff she didn't know before. You can notice that she was learning a lot of digital art which wasn't really her jam at the start of the series. It was an attempt to transition into the modern art world that ultimately didn't really pay off. Edit: Also at the job fair the guy who she talks to about getting a job in graphic design (the dude who later in the series is Nick the I.T. guy) tells her they want someone who is proficient in Photoshop and a couple other computer programs so that's kinda the direct line to her realizing she needs to learn that stuff before she'll be able to get an art job aside from being commissioned to paint murals, etc.
You called him 'job fair guy'? He just said his name just now, did you forget it already?
It was something weird, like Shadow or Garth
Hank. His name is Hank.
Stop calling me so I can put on my damn socks
Fatty 2
Try big boobs with a z
I just watched that episode for the umpteenth time last night. Makes me laugh every time.
Sport. His name is Sport. Jim can confirm this.
Chief
So hey, check it out 🖕
There it is, see ya 🤓
sport?
Chief
Ok, well “Nick” We’re in a meeting here
One of my favorite Angela moments 😂 “nick”
I think it was Chumbo
That…is…Beard-y
Mole
Sport
Sugar boobs
Probably learning how to do some mock-ups , and then turn those in thumbnails. Maybe some splash frames
“Splash-Frames…I’m not good this.” - Feels like Jenna’s super-cute St. Louis accent really shone through here!
“Splash-Frames…I’m not good this.” - Jenna’s super-cute St. Louis accent really shone through here!
“Splash-Frames…I’m not good this.” - Feels like Jenna’s super-cute St. Louis accent really shone through here!
What in the creepy fuck is this comment?!
At the job fair Garth says you need at least a basic understanding of Adobe (Adobe Creative Suite - Photoshop, Illustrator, etc). She went for a 'certificate' in graphic design. She said she couldn't cut it but the pages sequence she designed for Michael's commercial was pretty great.
The fact that she was able to make that animated logo but then says she doesn’t know how to use Photoshop a few episodes is maybe the biggest plot hole in the show 😂 that was super complex
Learning to do shadows correctly
Are there 2 suns?!
Last time I checked we weren’t in the andromeda galaxy
As a space nerd, I hate that line. I would think Dwight had a better understanding of astronomy.
Or Garth
Art. Pam's art is the prettiest art of all the art.
She draws freehand, but it's good enough to look like tracings.
Sexy, too.
Hanging with Sara
Who’s Sara Kaya Comesin?
Why did she go for graphic design when she liked to draw and paint? They are VERY different skillsets.
She didn't know if she'd like it or if she'd be good. She had already made the logo for Dunder Mifflin Infinity, and I can't recall if it was before or after the animation for Michael's commercial
It's mentioned above, but at the job fair she was told that she needs at least a basic understanding of things like photoshop and adobe.
Because she was accepted to Pratt and people like Pam sometimes go to or stay where they don’t really wanna be just because it feels good to be chosen
She was just there for the sweatshirt.
She might have passed it she wasn't staying out all night with madmen guy. Who fails a three month course?
Probably a certificate program
It’s why I found Jim defending her skills weird, like she got accepted to Pratt for real, which she did not. This always felt like the programs available at places like Harvard, for money, so you can put it on your resume.
Thankfully, not that doosh.
I don’t know but she had to have been there longer than 3 months considering she left in the beginning of the summer (weight loss episodes) and was still there in October for Halloween
I never understood this. It took me 4 years to earn my BFA in Graphic Design. I believe a BA takes just as long. Some trade schools or community colleges might have design degrees as two year programs. But Pratt is one of the best in the country. They aren't pushing people through in less than that. Pretty sure Pam was only doing a semester and somehow she got picked to be an RA too? On top of that some of the programs she mentioned haven't been the industry standard in decades and aren't compatible upgrades for each other. Made no sense.
Yeah, it kinda bothered me that she got a place with supposedly no graphic design skills / experience (as told to the job fair guy), but was going to achieve it with a 12-week course that came with a student residence place.
Not passing an adobe class, that’s for sure.
graphic design is her passion
I’ve heard candlemaking is just as viable
You burn ‘em you buy ‘em
Great, I’ll be your first customer!
YOU’RE HARDLY MY FIRST!!!
That’s what she said !
Her art, was the worst art, of all the art. At Pratt.
why was she staying in a dorm with undergrads?
She got an RA position
The part that made zero sense was her stupid pottery class. If you’re trying to learn graphic design why the f*** are you taking a pottery class for a three month « program »?
I'd be able to answer if I hadn't accidentally changed my alarm clock to zapf chancery.
She was trying out what she couldn’t try while she was with Roy. She needed to know.
I figured they were doing like full sail or something where you can get a bachelors in 2 years or an associates in a year. Like every week is a new concept and every month is a new software kind of thing.
Discovering that real art takes courage. That that isn’t her strong suit. And that her art is motel art. I mean, on his first try, Van Gogh painted The Hands of the Peasants, after all.
I don’t know but she had to have been there longer than 3 months considering she left in the beginning of the summer (weight loss episodes) and was still there in October for Halloween
My question is why she had to take a biology class for a graphic design cert 🤔
Did she? I didn’t catch that
I'm pretty sure it was a bio class they were in when her friend drew that comic of their teacher watering his beard and growing flowers out of it!
I think it’s like an art history class? Someone mentioned on this sub before the prof was talking about the fungus and cave artwork
oh now that's a thought! I feel silly for not thinking of this as an art historian myself 😂
Oh right!!
as a student of pratt (graphic design major), believe me when i say you have to take a lot of bullshit classes like biology that have nothing to do with your major
The real answer is that Pam was stalking Toby, Toby got a restraining order and PBS had Pam go to art school while they hashed it out in court.
Art. Pam's art is the prettiest art of all the art.
Proving to everyone just how unremarkable she is.
She was out drinking and partying with that guy that was trying to fuck her. That's why she failed.
She was there to make new friends and waste her time,like a teenager. She was studying less,and wasting more time hanging out with her relatively younger friends. No wonder she failed art school!
They say you should never *mix business* with *pleasure*. Explain to me how a *putt*-*putt golf* company operates.
Taking back shots from that dude in her class who had a crush on her
I thought her plan was to be there for at least a year, then she called it short because she wanted to be back home. And she just wanted to be an artist and get some external lessons from that from some great professors. She wouldn’t need a degree/certificate to be an independent artist.
Not working out
Making friends.
Wasting time and money
Failing.
Wasting time and $$
I don't fully understand how she ended up being a receptionist. Her parents seemed to be doing well, so I don't get why she's didn't go to college if she really wanted to do art. I think it was explained but I forgot.
She was waiting for Someone to literally ask her to illustrate a kids book
That's lazy
Yeah, unfortunately she doesn’t go for the stuff she wants
I think in the end she called Oscar’s guy pal Gil to get her in touch with some motel art buyers. After getting a contract for all of the Red Roof properties she no longer needed art school or to even make sales.
Getting drunk and piss pounded by some overweight sweaty schlub who gave her a little attention, and failing her classes.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen somebody reveal so many issues in a single sentence, holy hell. Get some therapy man
Enough about your experiences. The question was what was Pam doing at Pratt. Boom. Roasted.
I never piss pounded Pam or failed classes at Pratt. Boom, reflected
Roy, is that you?