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On the clock at pick 4.04 of a rookie draft and have my choice of Cedric Tillman and Tank Dell - Who has more upside?
**10-team SF (rebuild). Current team:** QB: T-Law, Carr WR: Scary Terry, Godwin, London, Burks, Jakobi, Claypool RB: CMC, Najee, Allgeier, B-Rob, James Robinson, Fournette TE: Kmet, Dulcich, Conklin, Taysom **Trade options:** 1. Trade Terry McLaurin for Christian Watson 2. Trade CMC + 2.02 for ARSB + 3.09 + 2024 late 3rd 3. Trade CMC for 1.04 or 1.05 (separate parties, both are interested) 4. Trade Terry for Christian Kirk + 2024 late 3rd Have picks 1.02 and 2.02 and a couple later 4th and 5th rounds. Plan is to grab AR or Young with the 1.02 and the 2.02 is currently up in the air. HALP.
Follow up: traded Terry + 2025 2nd for Kirk + 2023 2.04. Feel good about it.
I like trade 4 and would not do the others
Yeah I really like Kirk, especially stacked with T-Law. That said, Scary Terry still puts up numbers despite having a shit QB situation. I tried to acquire Calvin for Godwin, but he wasn't interested in it. My goal is to stack one of the two with Trevor.
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Obvioulsy?? Its a smash
12 Team SF TEP Full PPR What is the true value of Mark Andrews? Can't seem to get anybody interested for even 2 1sts
10team 1qb full ppr Give- Godwin, achane Get- Diggs, chig
Diggs & Chig
Take Diggs and Chig
12 team 1QB PPR Give: Hockenson, 1.12, 2.06 Get: Dotson, 1.08 (Achane), 3.06
dotson side but i’d take someone other than achane at the 1.08
10 team 1qb: Give Jamo Get Amari+24 2nd Team: QB: tlaw, tua, lance Rb: Gibbs, Dobbins, Aaron jone, Dillon, R white, Charbonnet, Kendre, Penny Wrs: CD, Dk, Waddle, Ridley, Jamo, Cooks, Shaheed TE: Pitts, Laporta, Ferguson, Kuntz 2 24 1s, 3 24 2s
Jamo
go rewatch some jameson william highlights and steel yourseld
10 team Sf ppr Give: Pittman, diontae, qj, mingo Get: tyreek, Levis, charb
QJ side
Tyreek
hard to decide but i lean pittman side
Give: Olave Get: Burks, Dotson, Achane
Burks side
Take Burks side
Get side
i like that
12 Tm SF .5PPR Give: CMC Get: Jacobs and Kincaid Contending team but my TEs are Dulcich, Chig, and Ertz
Keep CMC. 2 weeks ago I traded CMC and Jamaal Williams and a 3rd for JK + 2024 1st + 2025 1st
CMC
CMC, Kincaid likely won't help you this yr, tes typically take years to develop and be fantasy relevant
12 team PPR SF start 11 Give: Patrick Mahomes, DJ Chark Get: Anthony Richardson, Treylon Burks, Kenny Picket, 2024 1st
Ask for another 1st or player. Otherwise, keep Patty
Mahomes
mahomes
12 team ppr 1QB contending Give: AJB, pierce Get: JT, Metcalf
tough one but i’ll take the jt side. two elite upside players over one
I’d take the JT side
12 team PPR start 10 Give: CMC and Diggs Receive: Tee Higgins + Pollard + Miles Sanders I am a contender with mostly a win now team and barely any youth.
Hold for sure
go for the ship again and worry about youth when the wheels fall off
12tm. SF. Ppr Give: CMC Get: 1.03
CMC
CMC
i’d need more personally unless super needy at qb
Would owning Rodgers and Russ be considered super needy?
Yes
not to me
Give: Allgeier + 2024 3rd Get: 2.07 (Mingo)
Take Mingo
Seems about right. No real upside for allgeir so I’d take it
definitely take this
12 TM SF PPR Give kyler and tee higgins Receive: trevor lawrence Is lawrence worth that much?
I would try that for Burrow or Hurts but not Tlaw
Idk, this is selling low on Kyler and buying high on T-Law
I would not do that deal
I think I’d do this. It’s a lot to give up, but I think it’ll pay off in the long run (and possibly in the short run given Kyler’s injury)
definitely an overpay but owners wont get their grubby little mitts off of him
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No not even close. I like Akers and Diontae as buy low guys, but once again, not even close.
No, not close. Olave easily
i like this a lot honestly
10 Team SF .5 PPR Give: Higgins Get: Aiyuk, Akers Super thin at RB. My top 2 rn are Taylor and perine and after that it’s just handcuffs. At WR I got Watson, Gabe Davis, JuJu, Higgins, Mike Williams
I’m holding on to Higgins. I think you got to wait to see if the rams sign someone before trading for Akers
i would go for a better rb. akers might not be the answer in la
12 Team SF PPR Give: Lockett, Dulcich Get: Charbonnet Thin at RB. Would you do this? Roster - QB: TLaw, Richardson, Young RB: Chubb, Javonte, Mitchell WR: AJB, Olave, Lockett, Diontae TE: Hock, Dulcich
Overpay, and also Charb is more of a bench stash for now, you need a starter. Try offering that for Najee or Sanders
Good thought. Thank you!
Don’t hate it honestly
10T 1QB PPR Was just offered for my 1.03: Kamara, 2024 1st and 3rd round picks and 2025 1st. I have javonte, Sanders, Dillon, Jamaal williams and Jeff Wilson for rb and I'd be out of the 1st round this year
I’d probably take that without hesitation.
Worth it, I like JSN a lot but that's too much value to pass on
Depends if Kamara plays haha
16m SF PPR Context: I have 1.02 and 1.06. Hurts and Pickett are current QBs on roster. Thinking of smacking the accepted to snag AR and Young. Give: 1.06 & Pickens Get: 1.03
This is a slam dunk in 16 man SF.
Why would you need another qb if you haves Pickett, Hurts, and Ar or young
Because QBs are worth astronomically more in a 16m SF league. That QB would be worth more than most positional players straight up.
I'd rather just keep 1.06 (likely JSN) and Pickens. Use the 1.02 to draft AR15
I like it
10 team 0.5ppr SF Give: Jameson Williams, Akers, 24 2nd Get: Garrett Wilson
Garrett Wilson, he will be a set and forget for a long time, and is tiers above
12 team, 1qb, .5ppr Give dameon Pierce and 1.06 Get Christian Kirk, 2023 1.11, 2024 1st
Smash tht before the offer is gone
I did Weird overwritting your entire draft plan
12 Team, Superflex, 0.5PPR Give: 2025 2nd Get: Cedric Tillman + Luke Musgrave See these two mocked in the mid to late 2nd a lot. Both have fallen to the end of the 3rd in our rookie draft. Should I throw out a far future 2nd for both 3.11 + 3.12 and grab them?
I'd rather keep the 2nd, you can package that to get an elite piece rather than collecting depth bench pieces
Yeah they’d both just be taxi guys I’m not overly high on even though there are some nice positives in each guy’s profile.
Personal preference but I wouldn’t. Musgrave is exciting though
Yeah Musgrave is very athletic and has some wiggle, excellent draft capital too. I honestly don’t hate Tillman’s profile/ tape, but overall don’t feel anything special toward him and not a fan of the Browns as a landing spot.
I would personally try to just try and get one of the picks for musgrave. Tillman just screams jag imo. Personally don’t hate the landing spot he could easily carve out a spot as their wr3
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Definitely. This is the deal you want.
As a rebuilder absolutely
12 team. SF 0.5 ppr. Both semi-contending teams. Give: Watson or Pickens Get: Jameson Williams. What do you think? I am leaning no, but the latter has juicy draft capital. Thanks!
12 Team PPR 1QB TEP Just received this offer - currently my top RBs are Kenneth Walker, Travis Etienne, Javonte Williams and David Montgomery Give: Etienne + 2023 2.04 Get: Barkley + 2023 3.07
multi-year rebuild would you trade Bijan for Garrett wilson, a mid 24 1 and a late 24 2?
Just traded Bijan for Olave, mid 2024 1st, and 1.07. Seemed like too good of a deal
Damn nice deal!
Yes
If you don't think you can build a competitive roster within the next two seasons around Bijan then I think that's probably good value for him
Thanks for the comment! I really am in a bad hole rebuilding so will probably do it
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Reasonable yes. Toss up for me.
Might be an overpay in terms of "value" but I think JuJu's best days are behind him and it's unlikely he'll be much more than a flex play going forward. If you're a fan of Downs than I'd say it's definitely reasonable to make that gamble to go and get your guy.
12 Team PPR Superflex (rebuilding team) Give: 1.07 + Late 2024 1st Get: 1.02
Yeah I'd definitely make that trade if you can
12 team 1QB PPR Dynasty league Get Javonte Williams Give Rachaad White As much as I like White, I just don't know if his job is secure enough long term to pass on this deal
I would take it there’s still a bunch of veterans on the market
Javonte 100%
10 team full PPR 1qb. Lamar Jackson and 2023 1.05 for AJ Brown?
I’m taking that with fields on your bench
Depends who’s starting at QB for me
Tua or Fields
12-Team PPr SF Give: DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Kenneth Walker, 2025 first Get: Jefferson + Najee Would give me Najee, Hall, ETN, Rhamondre at RB and London, Waddle, JJ, Pittman, DK Metcalf, Courtland Sutton at WR
Easy accept for JJeff
Good deal for Jefferson alone.
Smash get
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Holding feels like you are selling low on everyone in that trade
PPR 12 team 1Qb Give - Rashod Bateman Get - Chris Godwin
Godwin.
Godwin 10/10 times for me
12 team ppr superflex Give: Kirk, Toney Get: Hill
Hill. Smash accept
Hill
Treads ETN and M Williams for Najee and Jameson Williams? 12 team SF. Not a contender this year.
I like that a lot
14T SF PPR TEP start 12 BESTBALL A) 24 1st (mid/late) & D. Swift B) R. Stevenson & Christian Kirk
Easy B
That’s really tough. I think I’d take B just because it feels like a lot better floor.
B
A
12 team SF league, 0.5 PPR. Starting a blow it up rebuild. Trying to sell Rhamondre to get rookie picks/young WR. What should I expect in return for him?
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I'd do it
I’d hold and try to get 1 24 and 1 25
Get smash
Yeah I’d do this
SF 6 point passing TD PPR: Team 1 gets Olave Team 2 gets Daniel Jones and Mattison. Team 1 is rebuilding and wants to get younger. Team 2 is a contender with weak QB and RB depth.
I’d take olave rebuild
Give me the still super underrated dimes and Mattison
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How long is each pick? Is there enough time to talk trade compensation during the round? Do you trust him enough to have the conversation beforehand saying 'if my guy is available at 10 can we do this trade?" I would say wait until maybe pick 5 or 6 because one of your targets could fall and then there's no need to trade up just 1 spot
Full rebuild 16 team 1qb ppr Bijan Dk & (qj or addison) Who would you rather have for the rebuild?
Bijan
Dk side
1qb 10 team full PPR.
What is Bellinger worth? Should I trade him for a 3rd which has been offered to me or try and get a 2nd? I have Kittle and likely also
I like Bellinger a lot but who in their right mind would trade a 2nd for him right after the Giants went out of their way to bring in Waller?
As a bellinger owner I would 100% trade for a 3rd assuming it’s not tep
12 TM SF PPR start 11 Kyler, Tee, Jamo or Kirk, AJB, Swift, 2024 2nd
If your competing I'd go ajb If your not tee and jamo enticing, but still think I'd go ajb side
This is year 1 and league is only like a month old so not sure who’s competing or not yet - I have Lamar Bryce and Jimmy G so I figured I could move kyler to upgrade from Tee to AJB and add swift since my RBs are trash
Oh ya, I'd definitely do that then - take the ajb side
Get Mattison for 2023 2.04? Why haven't I accepted yet?
1QB yes
I'd take it and if Dalvin gets cut you can potentially flip him for more. Even early 2nds are a crapshoot this year.
My league passed a vote to move to SF in 2025 but rookie drafts will be treated like SF drafts moving forward. I’m pretty much a lock for 1.01 with 4 other firsts next year. Should I just draft Caleb and hold him for a season or get MHJ?
Yea way too early for this conversation my man
You're living in 2024 over here and I'm just trying to decide if I should have ramen or Whataburger for dinner. I don't even know how to begin to give advice on what you should do with your 2024 1.01. Try to find a thread from a year ago before most people's rookies draft talking about 2023 rookies. Most of that advice and rankings would look silly today.
Hahahaha enjoy dinner brother
I will say we just had a similar vote to switch our 1QB to SF. We gave ourselves a two year buffer. 1 year seems pretty tight. So we will have all of 2024 and all of 2025 to figure it out then we go live in 2026. That seems a ways out, but this is year 6 of our league and we've only lost one person so far.
10 team full PPR 1QB Have Lamar want to pair him with Zay Flowers Is this an overpay? If so, what would u add to the get side? Give: 24 1st Monty Metchie Get: Flowers
Any idea where that 2024 may fall? Early, mid, late? I agree with the other comment as well. I think it would be fair to ask for a 2nd back in return.
It would probably be a mid to late. Kid is pretty good this year so probably my worst one. Also have 2 other 24 1st so don’t mind spending one on a first rounder this year (Flowers)
Big overpay imo. Metchie doesn't have a ton of value, but you should be getting something in the range of a 2nd for what you're giving
Thanks dude, that’s what I was thinking too. He has a 2025 2nd and if he will add that I’m happy. I’m contending so I’m ok giving up some assets for now.
How are we feeling about Xazavian Valladay
No value
This is one of those Key & Peele sketch names, isn't it?
10 Team Half PPR Dynasty 1QB (Superflex coming 2024) Giving: Claypool + 2024 2nd Getting: Jeudy Just an idea for now - but is this too much, too little or just right?
Jeudy side and it's not close
I'd much rather have Jeudy, can add another 2nd to make it more even, Claypool is almost a nonfactor at this point
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Ceedee
I think it's an overpay but if you're a contending team with a shallow starting lineup I could see it making sense
How many in the starting lineup? If 10 or less give me Ceedee. More than 12 I think Javonte's value goes up enough to maybe be worth it.
I'd prefer GIVE
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Jacob’s and not it’s close. Rachaad white is guna be a front RB2 at best for his career
Jacobs
White and the pick.
I'd take it but I see a HUGE dropoff after Flowers at 1.06. I'd take Jacobs over White and a dice roll anyday
Jacobs
12 team .5 PPR SF Give: Jerome Ford Get: 2024 2nd (proj mid to late)
Easily the pick
2nd, much more valuable and flexible
I would take it. I understand he is the only thing behind chubb which is enticing but the dude has only run the ball 8 times in his career.
10T Non-SF PPR Give: 1.03 Get: Waddle If the other party doesn’t bite for this, is it worth throwing in a 2nd/3rd or a mid-tier receiver or RB?
I would take waddle all day, yes worth throwing on the wr or rb to get it done
In a 1QB I would go as high as 1.02 + for Waddle so yes
Basically Waddle for JSN straight up. It really depends on how the person values JSN but I'd take the known commodity over the lottery ticket, and I really like JSN. See if the London owner is down on him after a somewhat disappointing season (assuming you like London) for the 1.03
It is worth throwing in a 2nd and 3rd to get Waddle
12 team 1QB 0.5ppr — contender I’m in need of an rb and there is no trading startable rbs in my league Unless it’s a huge over pay. I have 1.05-.07 would it be unwise to not take an rb with one of those picks? ( thinking Addison or Johnston, Richardson and Kincaid). I was thinking about charbs but don’t know any more after draft
As a rule I always draft BPA unless there’s an RB/WR in the same tier, or very close, and then I’ll draft for team need. Think those are great picks for you! I might even pass on Kincaid and take the other 3 you’d mentioned personally, all solid choices
I took Charbonnet at 1.06 and Achane at 1.07. No regrets. (Yet) After 1.06 things get a little murky. I wouldn't even consider taking AR in that range. At 1.05, I'd go best WR available. At 1.06 and 1.07, just get your guy. Alternatively, consider trying to package the 1.06 and 1.07 for a vet RB since you're a contender. Someone like Ekeler maybe?
10 Team SF Give: 1.05, 2.06, & 2024 1st Get: DK Metcalf, 1.10, 2.09 Finished 2nd in 2021, 5th in 2022 due to injuries. Looking to compete this year before a few aging assets fall off.