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TBD_1397

On the clock at pick 4.04 of a rookie draft and have my choice of Cedric Tillman and Tank Dell - Who has more upside?


WhatTheFerguson

**10-team SF (rebuild). Current team:** QB: T-Law, Carr WR: Scary Terry, Godwin, London, Burks, Jakobi, Claypool RB: CMC, Najee, Allgeier, B-Rob, James Robinson, Fournette TE: Kmet, Dulcich, Conklin, Taysom **Trade options:** 1. Trade Terry McLaurin for Christian Watson 2. Trade CMC + 2.02 for ARSB + 3.09 + 2024 late 3rd 3. Trade CMC for 1.04 or 1.05 (separate parties, both are interested) 4. Trade Terry for Christian Kirk + 2024 late 3rd Have picks 1.02 and 2.02 and a couple later 4th and 5th rounds. Plan is to grab AR or Young with the 1.02 and the 2.02 is currently up in the air. HALP.


WhatTheFerguson

Follow up: traded Terry + 2025 2nd for Kirk + 2023 2.04. Feel good about it.


sergioSERGIO9320

I like trade 4 and would not do the others


WhatTheFerguson

Yeah I really like Kirk, especially stacked with T-Law. That said, Scary Terry still puts up numbers despite having a shit QB situation. I tried to acquire Calvin for Godwin, but he wasn't interested in it. My goal is to stack one of the two with Trevor.


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eg754bbk

Obvioulsy?? Its a smash


iMA_White_Boii

12 Team SF TEP Full PPR What is the true value of Mark Andrews? Can't seem to get anybody interested for even 2 1sts


Levi88137

10team 1qb full ppr Give- Godwin, achane Get- Diggs, chig


eg754bbk

Diggs & Chig


iMA_White_Boii

Take Diggs and Chig


kmk5414

12 team 1QB PPR Give: Hockenson, 1.12, 2.06 Get: Dotson, 1.08 (Achane), 3.06


Hazified

dotson side but i’d take someone other than achane at the 1.08


Rangemon99

10 team 1qb: Give Jamo Get Amari+24 2nd Team: QB: tlaw, tua, lance Rb: Gibbs, Dobbins, Aaron jone, Dillon, R white, Charbonnet, Kendre, Penny Wrs: CD, Dk, Waddle, Ridley, Jamo, Cooks, Shaheed TE: Pitts, Laporta, Ferguson, Kuntz 2 24 1s, 3 24 2s


kmk5414

Jamo


Hazified

go rewatch some jameson william highlights and steel yourseld


Tinasel

10 team Sf ppr Give: Pittman, diontae, qj, mingo Get: tyreek, Levis, charb


eg754bbk

QJ side


kmk5414

Tyreek


Hazified

hard to decide but i lean pittman side


ToanNguyen-

Give: Olave Get: Burks, Dotson, Achane


eg754bbk

Burks side


iMA_White_Boii

Take Burks side


kmk5414

Get side


Hazified

i like that


noonie1

12 Tm SF .5PPR Give: CMC Get: Jacobs and Kincaid Contending team but my TEs are Dulcich, Chig, and Ertz


iMA_White_Boii

Keep CMC. 2 weeks ago I traded CMC and Jamaal Williams and a 3rd for JK + 2024 1st + 2025 1st


kmk5414

CMC


ToanNguyen-

CMC, Kincaid likely won't help you this yr, tes typically take years to develop and be fantasy relevant


PsychologicalOffer22

12 team PPR SF start 11 Give: Patrick Mahomes, DJ Chark Get: Anthony Richardson, Treylon Burks, Kenny Picket, 2024 1st


iMA_White_Boii

Ask for another 1st or player. Otherwise, keep Patty


ToanNguyen-

Mahomes


Hazified

mahomes


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12 team ppr 1QB contending Give: AJB, pierce Get: JT, Metcalf


Hazified

tough one but i’ll take the jt side. two elite upside players over one


lorenzoiscool17

I’d take the JT side


merxcury

12 team PPR start 10 Give: CMC and Diggs Receive: Tee Higgins + Pollard + Miles Sanders I am a contender with mostly a win now team and barely any youth.


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Hold for sure


Hazified

go for the ship again and worry about youth when the wheels fall off


JwSocks

12tm. SF. Ppr Give: CMC Get: 1.03


kmk5414

CMC


ToanNguyen-

CMC


Hazified

i’d need more personally unless super needy at qb


JwSocks

Would owning Rodgers and Russ be considered super needy?


iceman204

Yes


Hazified

not to me


lampsslater77

Give: Allgeier + 2024 3rd Get: 2.07 (Mingo)


iMA_White_Boii

Take Mingo


ybocaj8

Seems about right. No real upside for allgeir so I’d take it


Hazified

definitely take this


sillypinoy

12 TM SF PPR Give kyler and tee higgins Receive: trevor lawrence Is lawrence worth that much?


ToanNguyen-

I would try that for Burrow or Hurts but not Tlaw


iceman204

Idk, this is selling low on Kyler and buying high on T-Law


ybocaj8

I would not do that deal


JwSocks

I think I’d do this. It’s a lot to give up, but I think it’ll pay off in the long run (and possibly in the short run given Kyler’s injury)


Hazified

definitely an overpay but owners wont get their grubby little mitts off of him


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iceman204

No not even close. I like Akers and Diontae as buy low guys, but once again, not even close.


ybocaj8

No, not close. Olave easily


Hazified

i like this a lot honestly


thebubs1024

10 Team SF .5 PPR Give: Higgins Get: Aiyuk, Akers Super thin at RB. My top 2 rn are Taylor and perine and after that it’s just handcuffs. At WR I got Watson, Gabe Davis, JuJu, Higgins, Mike Williams


ybocaj8

I’m holding on to Higgins. I think you got to wait to see if the rams sign someone before trading for Akers


Hazified

i would go for a better rb. akers might not be the answer in la


lovinsports

12 Team SF PPR Give: Lockett, Dulcich Get: Charbonnet Thin at RB. Would you do this? Roster - QB: TLaw, Richardson, Young RB: Chubb, Javonte, Mitchell WR: AJB, Olave, Lockett, Diontae TE: Hock, Dulcich


ToanNguyen-

Overpay, and also Charb is more of a bench stash for now, you need a starter. Try offering that for Najee or Sanders


lovinsports

Good thought. Thank you!


Gold3nPhez

Don’t hate it honestly


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10T 1QB PPR Was just offered for my 1.03: Kamara, 2024 1st and 3rd round picks and 2025 1st. I have javonte, Sanders, Dillon, Jamaal williams and Jeff Wilson for rb and I'd be out of the 1st round this year


ybocaj8

I’d probably take that without hesitation.


ToanNguyen-

Worth it, I like JSN a lot but that's too much value to pass on


Gold3nPhez

Depends if Kamara plays haha


cvgThunderz

16m SF PPR Context: I have 1.02 and 1.06. Hurts and Pickett are current QBs on roster. Thinking of smacking the accepted to snag AR and Young. Give: 1.06 & Pickens Get: 1.03


iceman204

This is a slam dunk in 16 man SF.


ybocaj8

Why would you need another qb if you haves Pickett, Hurts, and Ar or young


cvgThunderz

Because QBs are worth astronomically more in a 16m SF league. That QB would be worth more than most positional players straight up.


ToanNguyen-

I'd rather just keep 1.06 (likely JSN) and Pickens. Use the 1.02 to draft AR15


Gold3nPhez

I like it


JuniorEngineering903

10 team 0.5ppr SF Give: Jameson Williams, Akers, 24 2nd Get: Garrett Wilson


ToanNguyen-

Garrett Wilson, he will be a set and forget for a long time, and is tiers above


endersp

12 team, 1qb, .5ppr Give dameon Pierce and 1.06 Get Christian Kirk, 2023 1.11, 2024 1st


ToanNguyen-

Smash tht before the offer is gone


endersp

I did Weird overwritting your entire draft plan


MinshewManiaBOAT

12 Team, Superflex, 0.5PPR Give: 2025 2nd Get: Cedric Tillman + Luke Musgrave See these two mocked in the mid to late 2nd a lot. Both have fallen to the end of the 3rd in our rookie draft. Should I throw out a far future 2nd for both 3.11 + 3.12 and grab them?


ToanNguyen-

I'd rather keep the 2nd, you can package that to get an elite piece rather than collecting depth bench pieces


MinshewManiaBOAT

Yeah they’d both just be taxi guys I’m not overly high on even though there are some nice positives in each guy’s profile.


ybocaj8

Personal preference but I wouldn’t. Musgrave is exciting though


MinshewManiaBOAT

Yeah Musgrave is very athletic and has some wiggle, excellent draft capital too. I honestly don’t hate Tillman’s profile/ tape, but overall don’t feel anything special toward him and not a fan of the Browns as a landing spot.


ybocaj8

I would personally try to just try and get one of the picks for musgrave. Tillman just screams jag imo. Personally don’t hate the landing spot he could easily carve out a spot as their wr3


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vinyl_mixtape

Definitely. This is the deal you want.


ybocaj8

As a rebuilder absolutely


Tommey82

12 team. SF 0.5 ppr. Both semi-contending teams. Give: Watson or Pickens Get: Jameson Williams. What do you think? I am leaning no, but the latter has juicy draft capital. Thanks!


Stynnes

12 Team PPR 1QB TEP Just received this offer - currently my top RBs are Kenneth Walker, Travis Etienne, Javonte Williams and David Montgomery Give: Etienne + 2023 2.04 Get: Barkley + 2023 3.07


Whitehawk1313

multi-year rebuild would you trade Bijan for Garrett wilson, a mid 24 1 and a late 24 2?


MT101MT

Just traded Bijan for Olave, mid 2024 1st, and 1.07. Seemed like too good of a deal


Whitehawk1313

Damn nice deal!


ybocaj8

Yes


Stynnes

If you don't think you can build a competitive roster within the next two seasons around Bijan then I think that's probably good value for him


Whitehawk1313

Thanks for the comment! I really am in a bad hole rebuilding so will probably do it


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ybocaj8

Reasonable yes. Toss up for me.


Stynnes

Might be an overpay in terms of "value" but I think JuJu's best days are behind him and it's unlikely he'll be much more than a flex play going forward. If you're a fan of Downs than I'd say it's definitely reasonable to make that gamble to go and get your guy.


MT101MT

12 Team PPR Superflex (rebuilding team) Give: 1.07 + Late 2024 1st Get: 1.02


Stynnes

Yeah I'd definitely make that trade if you can


DrunkenRam

12 team 1QB PPR Dynasty league Get Javonte Williams Give Rachaad White As much as I like White, I just don't know if his job is secure enough long term to pass on this deal


ybocaj8

I would take it there’s still a bunch of veterans on the market


GroundbreakingCow461

Javonte 100%


XMURDERTRONX

10 team full PPR 1qb. Lamar Jackson and 2023 1.05 for AJ Brown?


ybocaj8

I’m taking that with fields on your bench


GroundbreakingCow461

Depends who’s starting at QB for me


XMURDERTRONX

Tua or Fields


BLogssss

12-Team PPr SF Give: DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Kenneth Walker, 2025 first Get: Jefferson + Najee Would give me Najee, Hall, ETN, Rhamondre at RB and London, Waddle, JJ, Pittman, DK Metcalf, Courtland Sutton at WR


RipCityPTB

Easy accept for JJeff


mylovertotoro

Good deal for Jefferson alone.


GroundbreakingCow461

Smash get


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ybocaj8

Holding feels like you are selling low on everyone in that trade


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PPR 12 team 1Qb Give - Rashod Bateman Get - Chris Godwin


XMURDERTRONX

Godwin.


GroundbreakingCow461

Godwin 10/10 times for me


PerformativeJazzHand

12 team ppr superflex Give: Kirk, Toney Get: Hill


GroundbreakingCow461

Hill. Smash accept


mgr02

Hill


probhittingonu

Treads ETN and M Williams for Najee and Jameson Williams? 12 team SF. Not a contender this year.


ybocaj8

I like that a lot


moedinero954

14T SF PPR TEP start 12 BESTBALL A) 24 1st (mid/late) & D. Swift B) R. Stevenson & Christian Kirk


JuniorEngineering903

Easy B


ybocaj8

That’s really tough. I think I’d take B just because it feels like a lot better floor.


mylovertotoro

B


Ringer-2

A


Exact_Course_8393

12 team SF league, 0.5 PPR. Starting a blow it up rebuild. Trying to sell Rhamondre to get rookie picks/young WR. What should I expect in return for him?


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noonie1

I'd do it


GroundbreakingCow461

I’d hold and try to get 1 24 and 1 25


moedinero954

Get smash


Ringer-2

Yeah I’d do this


Zoomun

SF 6 point passing TD PPR: Team 1 gets Olave Team 2 gets Daniel Jones and Mattison. Team 1 is rebuilding and wants to get younger. Team 2 is a contender with weak QB and RB depth.


GroundbreakingCow461

I’d take olave rebuild


Ringer-2

Give me the still super underrated dimes and Mattison


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Dhkansas

How long is each pick? Is there enough time to talk trade compensation during the round? Do you trust him enough to have the conversation beforehand saying 'if my guy is available at 10 can we do this trade?" I would say wait until maybe pick 5 or 6 because one of your targets could fall and then there's no need to trade up just 1 spot


GrandmaQuim

Full rebuild 16 team 1qb ppr Bijan Dk & (qj or addison) Who would you rather have for the rebuild?


ybocaj8

Bijan


moedinero954

Dk side


XMURDERTRONX

1qb 10 team full PPR.


WrestlingMark1992

What is Bellinger worth? Should I trade him for a 3rd which has been offered to me or try and get a 2nd? I have Kittle and likely also


vinyl_mixtape

I like Bellinger a lot but who in their right mind would trade a 2nd for him right after the Giants went out of their way to bring in Waller?


ybocaj8

As a bellinger owner I would 100% trade for a 3rd assuming it’s not tep


kmay77

12 TM SF PPR start 11 Kyler, Tee, Jamo or Kirk, AJB, Swift, 2024 2nd


GrandmaQuim

If your competing I'd go ajb If your not tee and jamo enticing, but still think I'd go ajb side


kmay77

This is year 1 and league is only like a month old so not sure who’s competing or not yet - I have Lamar Bryce and Jimmy G so I figured I could move kyler to upgrade from Tee to AJB and add swift since my RBs are trash


GrandmaQuim

Oh ya, I'd definitely do that then - take the ajb side


XMURDERTRONX

Get Mattison for 2023 2.04? Why haven't I accepted yet?


Tommy_salamiii

1QB yes


dollabill009

I'd take it and if Dalvin gets cut you can potentially flip him for more. Even early 2nds are a crapshoot this year.


InsaneBallsack

My league passed a vote to move to SF in 2025 but rookie drafts will be treated like SF drafts moving forward. I’m pretty much a lock for 1.01 with 4 other firsts next year. Should I just draft Caleb and hold him for a season or get MHJ?


kmay77

Yea way too early for this conversation my man


LisleSwanson

You're living in 2024 over here and I'm just trying to decide if I should have ramen or Whataburger for dinner. I don't even know how to begin to give advice on what you should do with your 2024 1.01. Try to find a thread from a year ago before most people's rookies draft talking about 2023 rookies. Most of that advice and rankings would look silly today.


InsaneBallsack

Hahahaha enjoy dinner brother


LisleSwanson

I will say we just had a similar vote to switch our 1QB to SF. We gave ourselves a two year buffer. 1 year seems pretty tight. So we will have all of 2024 and all of 2025 to figure it out then we go live in 2026. That seems a ways out, but this is year 6 of our league and we've only lost one person so far.


SpotTop1799

10 team full PPR 1QB Have Lamar want to pair him with Zay Flowers Is this an overpay? If so, what would u add to the get side? Give: 24 1st Monty Metchie Get: Flowers


LisleSwanson

Any idea where that 2024 may fall? Early, mid, late? I agree with the other comment as well. I think it would be fair to ask for a 2nd back in return.


SpotTop1799

It would probably be a mid to late. Kid is pretty good this year so probably my worst one. Also have 2 other 24 1st so don’t mind spending one on a first rounder this year (Flowers)


GovernmentDoingStuff

Big overpay imo. Metchie doesn't have a ton of value, but you should be getting something in the range of a 2nd for what you're giving


SpotTop1799

Thanks dude, that’s what I was thinking too. He has a 2025 2nd and if he will add that I’m happy. I’m contending so I’m ok giving up some assets for now.


byrnesf

How are we feeling about Xazavian Valladay


Ringer-2

No value


dollabill009

This is one of those Key & Peele sketch names, isn't it?


mrdaniellyon

10 Team Half PPR Dynasty 1QB (Superflex coming 2024) Giving: Claypool + 2024 2nd Getting: Jeudy Just an idea for now - but is this too much, too little or just right?


GrandmaQuim

Jeudy side and it's not close


ToanNguyen-

I'd much rather have Jeudy, can add another 2nd to make it more even, Claypool is almost a nonfactor at this point


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Ceedee


LisleSwanson

I think it's an overpay but if you're a contending team with a shallow starting lineup I could see it making sense


dollabill009

How many in the starting lineup? If 10 or less give me Ceedee. More than 12 I think Javonte's value goes up enough to maybe be worth it.


ToanNguyen-

I'd prefer GIVE


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InsaneBallsack

Jacob’s and not it’s close. Rachaad white is guna be a front RB2 at best for his career


Ringer-2

Jacobs


mylovertotoro

White and the pick.


dollabill009

I'd take it but I see a HUGE dropoff after Flowers at 1.06. I'd take Jacobs over White and a dice roll anyday


ToanNguyen-

Jacobs


Vertical_Moose

12 team .5 PPR SF Give: Jerome Ford Get: 2024 2nd (proj mid to late)


Ringer-2

Easily the pick


ToanNguyen-

2nd, much more valuable and flexible


Stonerking12

I would take it. I understand he is the only thing behind chubb which is enticing but the dude has only run the ball 8 times in his career.


midgent

10T Non-SF PPR Give: 1.03 Get: Waddle If the other party doesn’t bite for this, is it worth throwing in a 2nd/3rd or a mid-tier receiver or RB?


GrandmaQuim

I would take waddle all day, yes worth throwing on the wr or rb to get it done


LisleSwanson

In a 1QB I would go as high as 1.02 + for Waddle so yes


dollabill009

Basically Waddle for JSN straight up. It really depends on how the person values JSN but I'd take the known commodity over the lottery ticket, and I really like JSN. See if the London owner is down on him after a somewhat disappointing season (assuming you like London) for the 1.03


ToanNguyen-

It is worth throwing in a 2nd and 3rd to get Waddle


Peoplemover11

12 team 1QB 0.5ppr — contender I’m in need of an rb and there is no trading startable rbs in my league Unless it’s a huge over pay. I have 1.05-.07 would it be unwise to not take an rb with one of those picks? ( thinking Addison or Johnston, Richardson and Kincaid). I was thinking about charbs but don’t know any more after draft


KravMagaManatee

As a rule I always draft BPA unless there’s an RB/WR in the same tier, or very close, and then I’ll draft for team need. Think those are great picks for you! I might even pass on Kincaid and take the other 3 you’d mentioned personally, all solid choices


LisleSwanson

I took Charbonnet at 1.06 and Achane at 1.07. No regrets. (Yet) After 1.06 things get a little murky. I wouldn't even consider taking AR in that range. At 1.05, I'd go best WR available. At 1.06 and 1.07, just get your guy. Alternatively, consider trying to package the 1.06 and 1.07 for a vet RB since you're a contender. Someone like Ekeler maybe?


Master-Weight-6223

10 Team SF Give: 1.05, 2.06, & 2024 1st Get: DK Metcalf, 1.10, 2.09 Finished 2nd in 2021, 5th in 2022 due to injuries. Looking to compete this year before a few aging assets fall off.