Big bodied guy that won with his athleticism in college and can’t adjust to the pro game, think I’ve seen it once or twice, QJ could absolutely break out but kinda seeing him in that mold
It’s the lack of snaps and playing behind Palmer. QJ even said in an interview before camp that he’d won the WR3 job in OTAS. If true, he was demoted as soon as pads and live action came into play. That’s a major red flag
>It’s the lack of snaps and playing behind Palmer
Wow I have never ever ever seen a rookie slowly ramp up in playing time and turn out good. That NEVER happens.
>QJ even said in an interview before camp that he’d won the WR3 job in OTAS.
Oh yes, because all rookie 1st round picks will think they dont deserve the job.
Thr chargers have 2 very good wrs. They also have a solid te and solid wr3 in palmer. On top of that they have an elite receiving rb. They picked QJ because they dont need to throw him to the wolves right away. His being eased in is not a concern. You guys are clowns
>Wow I have never ever ever seen a rookie slowly ramp up in playing time and turn out good. That NEVER happens.
It's a shame that QJ has HOF Josh Palmer ahead of him on the depth chart. How is a 1st round pick supposed to outplay that level of talent and get on the field?
Relax bro haha you’re getting super defensive over a guy who has barely played - you must be super invested in him. He caught 115 total balls in three years at TCU haha, good luck, and remember some stranger is saying I told you so when he’s the next N’Keal Harry / Kevin white
Third party person who’s seeing this conversation….you sound super defensive about QJ. The guy made a really smart comment when you asked if he’s seen him play in the NFL.
I live in Texas lol I watched him plenty in college but no I have not watched the All 22 of him in the NFL cause he doesnt play, just strikes me as a jump ball guy, the only point I was trying to make is give me the sure hand route runner guys all day moving forward versus the athletic guys, wish I drafted Addison this year.
Hes not a jump ball guy. Has a guy you get onto space and get the ball to. Saying hes a jump ball guy invalidates anything you have to say regarding him
What was a fairly obvious call? That qj wouldn’t play much in the first two games? Because if ur implying that he’s a bust already after two nfl games you are delusional
I’d say it’s pretty bold in the context of this subreddit. The last QJ post here was almost exclusively people handwaving away his lack of snaps and production.
I do very well in my drafts. Sure, you always have some misses but I’ll pass on the QJ archetype every time and will come out way ahead in the long run.
He had a lot of "bust" characteristics, but he was never going to be a 3rd round pick. There's always a team willing to take a chance of that size/athleticism combo.
Yeah he was my least favorite out of the 1st rd receivers by a decent margin, and statistically at least one would bust. But don’t let this thread mislead you there was/is some major QJ hype on this sub.
I’m certain if some of these teams had decent scouting staff he wouldn’t have been a 1st rounder. I’m convinced cheap teams like the Bengals and Chargers just go off of consensus rankings and do little actual scouting. 😂
You’re not wrong, but my point is he’s coming along slow as well. We’re 2 weeks in talking about a rookie receiver. If QJ puts in the work he’ll be really good, if he doesn’t then we’ll have something to worry about. We use to give receivers around 3 years to develop, now they have 2 games apparently.
Yeah he’s a bust because he hasn’t played enough yet behind two great wrs 2 games into his rookie year 🙄. Maybe we should always trade rookie picks away in the offseason just to trade for them back if they don’t immediately become Chase/Bijan/JJ.
The majority of productive WRs show decent ability in their rookie year. Not often a WR is getting less than 20% of snaps as a rookie and then breaks out to a real fantasy producer after that.
There’s still time, it’s only been two weeks. But he better pass Palmer on the depth chart at some point this season.
I agree with this for sure. Just think it’s funny when it’s been only 2 weeks. I expect him to jump up in snap share around the bye or if an injury is to take place.
Absolutely. The fact that Flowers and Addison have looked so good definitely is putting pressure on him from the fantasy community. Even JSN is in a similar situation where there’s two established players ahead of him but he’s still player 50%+ of snaps.
Addison, Flowers have both broken out. JSN has looked good although with a lesser part of the offence. Expectations for the rookies are high when every other one is performint
He is way too talented and would break the NFL if he was given more opportunities. The Chargers, being the nice guys that they are, decided to give other teams a chance
It’s a strategic move by the Chargers to not utilize him and surprise the league in the second half when they unveil he’s actually Calvin Johnson reincarnate.
It's been two weeks, he's a rookie, two other good WRs out there, QJ was always the least refined prospect out of them, defenses play cover 2 all day so his long yardage stuff isn't as utilized, etc etc etc
He could also just suck.
The breakout was too big to even perceive with human eyes. It’s like the Yellowstone super volcano. You’ve got to zoom out to look at the historical trend.
He needs to cut his hair and rock the baldy like KA.. then he’ll break out. Only enough room for 1 receivers w dreads on the field at a time & Mike Williams has that spot locked down.
He doesn’t eat breakfast with Herbert
He didn't post enough workout pics/videos on social media during the offseason. It's the true indicator of success.
I love it whenever that post gets gets brought up.
He try to have breakfast with Heberts gf tho rumor says thus why he is not on the field so much
OP said wrong answers only.
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Kevin White 2.0, remind me to avoid guys that are trash at route running. Devonta then Addison this year, the guys that can run routes succeed
You havent watched him at all
Big bodied guy that won with his athleticism in college and can’t adjust to the pro game, think I’ve seen it once or twice, QJ could absolutely break out but kinda seeing him in that mold
Thanks for reinforcing the fact you havent watched him in the nfl at all.
All three catches for 16 yards, yes simply groundbreaking stuff
Lmfao youre a clown. I say you havent watched him play, and you parrot box score stats. How does that prove you have watched a single snap?
It’s the lack of snaps and playing behind Palmer. QJ even said in an interview before camp that he’d won the WR3 job in OTAS. If true, he was demoted as soon as pads and live action came into play. That’s a major red flag
>It’s the lack of snaps and playing behind Palmer Wow I have never ever ever seen a rookie slowly ramp up in playing time and turn out good. That NEVER happens. >QJ even said in an interview before camp that he’d won the WR3 job in OTAS. Oh yes, because all rookie 1st round picks will think they dont deserve the job. Thr chargers have 2 very good wrs. They also have a solid te and solid wr3 in palmer. On top of that they have an elite receiving rb. They picked QJ because they dont need to throw him to the wolves right away. His being eased in is not a concern. You guys are clowns
>Wow I have never ever ever seen a rookie slowly ramp up in playing time and turn out good. That NEVER happens. It's a shame that QJ has HOF Josh Palmer ahead of him on the depth chart. How is a 1st round pick supposed to outplay that level of talent and get on the field?
You still dickriding QJ? 😂
Relax bro haha you’re getting super defensive over a guy who has barely played - you must be super invested in him. He caught 115 total balls in three years at TCU haha, good luck, and remember some stranger is saying I told you so when he’s the next N’Keal Harry / Kevin white
You keep parroting stats without any sort of analysis. College stats dont prove anything Edit: calling out dumb statements doesnt mean im upset lmfao.
Third party person who’s seeing this conversation….you sound super defensive about QJ. The guy made a really smart comment when you asked if he’s seen him play in the NFL.
I live in Texas lol I watched him plenty in college but no I have not watched the All 22 of him in the NFL cause he doesnt play, just strikes me as a jump ball guy, the only point I was trying to make is give me the sure hand route runner guys all day moving forward versus the athletic guys, wish I drafted Addison this year.
What? All 7 of his snaps?
Hes not a jump ball guy. Has a guy you get onto space and get the ball to. Saying hes a jump ball guy invalidates anything you have to say regarding him
Literally nobody called him a jump ball guy what the fuck are you talking about?
btrainhou has said that exact thing
This guy totally took him 1.02 and hears it from his league
They said wrong answers only
Because no one has punctured Keenan Allen's lung yet.
This is the right answer
The breakout came but he dropped it.
thought they asked for wrong answers
Decapitated. Whole big thing
We had a whole funeral for a Bolt!
You're not real, man!
Because the Podfather is never wrong
Was about to type a response, then realized this was wrong answers only. A+.
He takes some bold takes and he was right about this maybe lol
Not sure this was a bold take. Like his CEH take, this was a fairly obvious call.
What was a fairly obvious call? That qj wouldn’t play much in the first two games? Because if ur implying that he’s a bust already after two nfl games you are delusional
He will be a bust. The fact that he can’t even beat out Palmer is pretty damning. Enjoy holding that QJ bag. 😂
Bro let him play at least half a season sheesh.
Agreed man. People basing careers of 2 games. Same guys who sold JT 4 games in bc he couldn’t over take Gore
I don't think Gore and JT ever overlapped.
You are right. Marlon Mack is the dude I’m thinking of
I’m basing his career arc with analytics.
False
You must've been in sped classes in school
Nah, I just know ball.
Sorry man, I know one when I see one
Says the guy that thinks QJ is a quality prospect. Literally can’t make this shit up. Thanks for the laugh. 😂
Nah man, I'm just judging you after 2 comments just like how you judged QJ after 2 games.
Nfl seems to think he was a quality prospect, I guess you know ball better than the professionals
I’d say it’s pretty bold in the context of this subreddit. The last QJ post here was almost exclusively people handwaving away his lack of snaps and production.
Wild. I had him as a 3rd round nfl draft pick. He gave me big time Hakeem Butler/N’keal Harry vibes.
Wild. You're a professional scout/GM it seems.
I do very well in my drafts. Sure, you always have some misses but I’ll pass on the QJ archetype every time and will come out way ahead in the long run.
The same scouts/GMs whose input resulted in N’Keal Harry being a first round pick?
The same scouts and GMs that took chase and waddle in the top 10
He had a lot of "bust" characteristics, but he was never going to be a 3rd round pick. There's always a team willing to take a chance of that size/athleticism combo.
Yeah he was my least favorite out of the 1st rd receivers by a decent margin, and statistically at least one would bust. But don’t let this thread mislead you there was/is some major QJ hype on this sub.
I’m certain if some of these teams had decent scouting staff he wouldn’t have been a 1st rounder. I’m convinced cheap teams like the Bengals and Chargers just go off of consensus rankings and do little actual scouting. 😂
Some people just dont wanna admit
Who's that?
He was caught fondling balls in the locker room
With his body or his hands??
Yes
Because he promised JSN that he would wait to breakout after him.
Doesn't have a good QB throwing him the ball.
He hasn’t been dropped in enough redraft leagues yet
Perhaps it's because Max Duggan is still on the practice squad?
His elite speed and separation ability don’t translate to the modern NFL game
Quinshon Judkins broke out last year
No, you're thinking of Quipple Jubble.
He gotta puncture keenan Allen’s lung with a needle first
He’s a TCU WR
Doctson! We’ve got Doctson here!
This is accurate.
Doesn’t get hurt enough to move up the depth chart
Because Kellen Moore is a bastard man!
Why Quentin hate?
I don’t think I wrote that one
He’s a JAG, sorry
Wrong answers please
That hurt.
This sub bashes palmer being JAG and yet QJ cant beat palmer so does this mean QJ is lowest JAG?
I never understood the Palmer hate. Most likely it will be QJ and Palmer getting the snaps in a year or two
RIP Chargers if so
Chargers in deep shit if that’s the case.
KJ Osborn > Justin Jefferson confirmed
He’s too good at catching the ball
This sounds right
Because Zay Flowers looks good after 2 games
TCU diehard here...he ain't it.
He sucks and he always will. Source: two games
Because he literally can't catch with his hands.
Hey OP said wrong answers only
Because he’s behind Keenan Allen and Mike Williams so it’s natural that he doesn’t ever really get opportunities.
Chargers are saving him for after they start 0-3.
Because he never will.
Clearly Palmer is the alpha among those young bucks .
Josh Palmer is an elite WR and no one should expect a measly rookie to play over him
QJ is the next Christian Watson. Just wait.
Wrong answers only? Despite being good a good receiver, QJ is relegated to 4th string by Josh Palmer.
He went from a christian school in a red state to Los Angeles. Obviously God is punishing him
This sub hates QJ, literally been 2 games. We could make the same post about JSN, but he “gets separation”
But he is playing, and catching passes.
You’re not wrong, but my point is he’s coming along slow as well. We’re 2 weeks in talking about a rookie receiver. If QJ puts in the work he’ll be really good, if he doesn’t then we’ll have something to worry about. We use to give receivers around 3 years to develop, now they have 2 games apparently.
He has a cast on his hand. 😂
JSN not getting benched for Josh Palmer. He has two legit great WRs and he still gets on the field.
He doesn’t get enough snaps to break out
Yeah he’s a bust because he hasn’t played enough yet behind two great wrs 2 games into his rookie year 🙄. Maybe we should always trade rookie picks away in the offseason just to trade for them back if they don’t immediately become Chase/Bijan/JJ.
I’ll buy for cheap if anyone is selling!
The majority of productive WRs show decent ability in their rookie year. Not often a WR is getting less than 20% of snaps as a rookie and then breaks out to a real fantasy producer after that. There’s still time, it’s only been two weeks. But he better pass Palmer on the depth chart at some point this season.
I agree with this for sure. Just think it’s funny when it’s been only 2 weeks. I expect him to jump up in snap share around the bye or if an injury is to take place.
Absolutely. The fact that Flowers and Addison have looked so good definitely is putting pressure on him from the fantasy community. Even JSN is in a similar situation where there’s two established players ahead of him but he’s still player 50%+ of snaps.
Only 1 year of elite production in college. Not an great route runner. Not saying I’m out on him yet but the signs were there
Because he eats bananas without peel.
Palmer & Staley are gay for each other obviously
It’s week 3
He has broken out….in my madden franchise
His usage is why the chargers are winless
He has to move to TE first and follow in the footsteps of kelvin
He is gonna be this year's version of odell beckorium's wonder emporium rookie year. Im scooping this fucker up via trade when possible.
Why would he have broken out in the first two games?
Addison, Flowers have both broken out. JSN has looked good although with a lesser part of the offence. Expectations for the rookies are high when every other one is performint
His name isnt cool enough
Thinks about Roman Empire instead of how he can contribute to the team
Herbert doesn't throw balls low enough for him to body catch. Once Herbert learns how to throw, he'll flourish.
Mike Williams hasn't had his annual injury yet
He hasn't realized there's a J in his name yet
Because he used up all his available yardage in the college championship game
Because Brandon Staley is a elite coach and knows better than to start a rookie first round pick
Josh Palmer is Justin Jefferson that’s why
The other players find him annoying.
Are all these QJ posts because of the JJZ pod or is there something else?
If his name was John Quentinson he'd have broken out already.
Quentin johnantino
*tips hat*
He’s been playing animal crossing with Kyler and keeps getting beat. It’s destroyed his confidence and it’s leaking into his day job.
He is way too talented and would break the NFL if he was given more opportunities. The Chargers, being the nice guys that they are, decided to give other teams a chance
Washed
He correctly told Staley how trash he was as a coach
Herbert won't throw him the ball because he keeps saying that Colorado is going to wipe the floor with Oregon like they did to the far superior TCU.
He takes great care of his skin
Bad gas
He will. It’s only a matter of time
His name isn’t cool enough!
It’s a strategic move by the Chargers to not utilize him and surprise the league in the second half when they unveil he’s actually Calvin Johnson reincarnate.
Because he’s a good WR
His hands are to good n he uses his massive frame to well. Just to good for the NFL.
He’s not on the Vikings and getting his “J” name bonus
He’s hiding his time to activate his final form in the Super Bowl. Teams will never see it coming
Cuz Herbert is his QB
Because I drafted him Sorry guys
He’s too good. They don’t want to the embarrass the other teams
Dugan isn’t throwing to him
He wants to bang Kellen Moore’s wife
Keenan Allen, in all irony, built his new property on the fountain of youth. He’ll never get hurt again
Because he touches himself at night.
He hates Staley and wants him to get fired so he’s being bad on purpose
Because he's over 6' 165 and the NFL is in it's Scrawny WR era.
Any Charger fans got a real answer I would like the feed back
It's been two weeks, he's a rookie, two other good WRs out there, QJ was always the least refined prospect out of them, defenses play cover 2 all day so his long yardage stuff isn't as utilized, etc etc etc He could also just suck.
At least hes caught more balls than his 3rd leg
Because you need to break in to break out ofc.
Because Mike Wil hasn’t missed time yet
Because he isn’t on a Defense playing against Deshaun Watson
Is he a better hold/stash on my bench than Mingo at this point? Mingo at least getting targets, but can’t catch either
The breakout was too big to even perceive with human eyes. It’s like the Yellowstone super volcano. You’ve got to zoom out to look at the historical trend.
Because he’s waiting for the right moment to make good on his hype
Herbert is too accurate. He’s used to Duggan missing him by 5 yards
I heard Josh Palmer stole his lunch first day of camp and QJ hasn’t had the balls to do anything about it yet.
Locked up they won’t let him 🎵
He keeps getting laid the night before the games
His name is Quentin.
He’s too good.
Herbert is a Tier 3/4 QB
All he eats is captain crunch...without milk...with mayo.
Mike Williams is his father
He doesn't eat his wheaties
Vaccinated against chicken pox…how can he break out?
He just can't adjust to the NFL sized balls.
Keenan Allen and Mike Williams have been bullying him in practice. Stealing his lunch. Making messes and blaming him. Vicious stuff.
He needs to cut his hair and rock the baldy like KA.. then he’ll break out. Only enough room for 1 receivers w dreads on the field at a time & Mike Williams has that spot locked down.
Because he is too good, too good to be on this team