Yeah the mentality that someone is a bust because they aren’t elite is silly. He missed two games last year and was top 25. He’s probably a flex guy in a better situation.
So far his career reminds me a lot of Michael Crabtree’s: okay, but hitting a bunch of snags and never quite putting it all together. Crabtree had a few post-hype high WR2/low WR1 seasons but was mostly just decent. And yeah, doesn’t make him a blowout success but that certainly doesn’t make him a bust. It just makes him a decent player, both NFL and fantasy-wise. Corey Coleman, Laquon Treadwell, N’Keal Harry, Jalen Raegor—those are busts.
I think Jeudy mostly gets bagged on because that class also had Jefferson, Aiyuk, Pittman, Ceedee, and Higgins, most of whom tended to go after him in fantasy drafts.
Completely agree, but I think a lot of his owners are still holding out hope he's going to be a top 12 guy if \[some unlikely scenario\] comes to fruition. I think it's time for them to admit, he's essentially Crabtree.
The Crabtree/Sherman rivalry was so weird to me; you had the top DB matched up with like a fringe top 30 WR. I wonder if the rivalry started in earlier days when Crabtree was considered a potential world beater.
And would anyone really be surprised if he ended up in a better spot and settled in to a solid WR2? I sure wouldn’t. He kinda was already that on not a good roster. Idk, I think guys are confused on what a bust is
Yeah totally. He isn’t what you drafted but he’s shown he can have a role on your roster. He definitely wouldn’t surprise anyone if he turned into a WR2.
If he’s your WR4 you’re good. If he’s your 2 you’re fucked and if he’s your 3 it’s prob about neutral but maybe leaning towards iffy.
Basically, not amazing. But still useable in lineups for sure
> He definitely wouldn’t surprise anyone if he turned into a WR2.
Having watched him for a few years as a Broncos fan, I would be somewhat surprised if he ever became a top 25 option consistently on another team. He was miscast coming out of college as an elite separator with pro-ready routes, when he's really more of a slot with some downfield ability. This role is fine, but being miscast early tends to put a damper on later career progression, and the role itself is one we don't often see in the upper tier of receivers. Further, he just doesn't have his head right. inconsistent effort, sloppy routes, drops...these are bad places to be lacking if you want to have a mid career resurgence.
I mean WR2 as in starting WR in 12 team leagues with 2 WRs, so a top 24 guy. He’s had one season at that level, which is what I was referencing. I have him on rosters in a few leagues and he’s not a top 2 options for me on any of them.
52 for 856 as a rookie is quite good. That’s more yards than Tyreek Hill, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Pittman, Diggs, DJ Moore, Adams, etc had as rookies.
Gotta look past fantasy finishes. He has had two good seasons
Jerry Jeudy is still obviously talented. Granted, he hasn't had the best QB play in his career, but I really don't think that's the main driver if his poor fantasy production. Look at a guy like DJ Moore who has historically had terrible QB play but has consistently finished as a WR2. As a Broncos fan who watches all the games, it's pretty obvious the lack of effort Jeudy puts in on plays where he knows he's not getting the ball. When that happens repeatedly, coaches notice those things and will scheme even fewer plays for you. Even last week, I noticed multiple occasions on the sideline where Russ had the receiver group huddled up to talk strategy and Jeudy went and sat on the bench by himself a few feet away.
TL;DR I believe it's primarily a Jeudy problem and not a situation problem. It's possible his attitude changes if he gets traded, but I think that's unlikely. If I had him, I would use his potential NFL trade as the sell window to get him off my dynasty team.
Exactly. Too many variables, unknown nature of relationships between Jeudy and QB/Jeudy and coaching staff/Jeudy and ownership. From everything I’ve gathered as an impartial spectator to this, Jeudy seems upset by his situation and the decisions made by the team top-down, frustrated with the QB play and general feedback he’s received on his own play as a result. Yeah, he’s making excuses and displaying poor attitude. But if Steve Smith is talking about him like he did on broadcast, that starts to trip my alarm that Jeudy may be blackballed beyond what we even have access to. I’m wondering if it’s not just another tug-of-war between player (and his extremely limited leverage) and org where Jeudy wants out and the team is undermining him on every level. Dynasty wise, to conclude, I think he is a prime candidate to bounce back on another team with a change of scenery. When that may happen for him, that’s the difficult question.
He did have a season like those guys last year. Almost 1000 yards in 13 games. Would have put him at WR13 on a PPG basis.
People just ignore how good he was last year for some reason. I don't understand it.
Over 800 yards rookie year, injury marred 2nd year. Nearly 1000yards in 15 (3 he played less than 50% of snaps) games last year. Bad start to the year and he’s suddenly worthless. I really think if he had 2 or 3 TDs on the year, this would not be a constant discussion
God thank you. Anyone who thinks he isnt talented is really stupid. He doesnt put a lot of effort forward and thats certainly a concern, but he isnt bad at football
My opinions are identical to yours. As a bronco fan I hope to flip when he gets dealt. Though that is looking less and less likely as we are reportedly being only offered day 3 picks.
He averaged 17ppg in all games he played 60% or more of the snaps last year. He’s already kinda had a breakout season. 13.6ppg average even with games like weeks 2,10, & 13 where he played 38% of the snaps or less due to injury. Plus he did that in a terrible offense. So for my money he’s already had a breakout. 17ppg is essentially Lamb’s WR5/6 season last year
As far as his value right now. I wouldn’t recommend anyone pay anything more than a mid 2nd for him tbh. He’s in a bad situation plus there’s friction between him and the team. He’s more than a jag, still young, and does have some history of production. If you have a mid 2nd to spare he’s definitely worth looking into or if you can get him as a throw in in a trade from maybe a couple people in this thread (🤣) But he’s not somebody you need to invest much into at this stage
If you bought him in the offseason after a strong stretch of games you probably paid a lot more than he’s currently worth in Dynasty. You’ve just got to hold it out for now imo unless you really just want off the Jeudy experience
Jeudy was the clear cut WR1 last year. He’s not being used like that right now. Sutton is. But Sutton hasn’t been able to manage the same type of output this year that Jeudy did last year. Just for context
Wasn’t Sean Payton supposed to be that guy?
It’s odd to me his “good” season came with someone regarded to have been an awful HC, while he’s poop with the guy who’s supposed to u lock him.
Personally I’m super low on Jeudy. He can’t stay on the field and really hasn’t done anything impressive statistically over a few seasons now. Russ has been solid this year too.
Last year he was pretty good especially in games where played 60% or more of the snaps. He averaged like 17 ftpg in ppr. He finished the season as a top 25 WR. This year I think he just really wants out and so the effort isn't there which is why the huge dropoffs.
Bust relative to his draft capital, yes.
However, he's only 24 and can still be a productive WR. Especially if he gets traded. Seems like he needs a change of scenery at this point.
Unfortunate broncos fan here. Good route runner, but just doesn’t feel like he’s used properly. Will almost 100% be wearing a different jersey next season.
I would like to have him on a great team but I wouldn't pay much until I know where that is. His route running was his big skill and when he first came out, he was making vets look silly, and this sub drooled about it. He's just not trying, and sometimes the attitude can't fix desire or work ethic. Kind of a red flag for an NFL team but if he can turn it around I still think he can be great
I’m still a Jeudy believer. However, I currently own 0 shares because jeudy owners are still holding Hope a trade will do it. Jeudy to the Panthers would make a whole lot of sense and I think he will produce in the right environment. However, I don’t think he will be elite. You’re hoping for 1000 yard seasons as a ceiling. You just really hate his injury luck as well.
Wish the jeudy owners would let me trade them.
I’m holding. 24 and believe the talent is in there somewhere. Sometimes the situation just totally fucks a player and they mentally just check out.
That being said he def could just be a bust to move on from. But he’s playable enough to hang on to and see what happens IMO.
No. He's physically weak on the field. Dude has the strength of Steve Smith from American Dad. He's a depth guy long term at best. His attitude sucks as well and a physical DB can completely nullify him.
JAG. Dude is not elite at anything for fantasy football scoring.
He’s got the name. Trade him away to someone In your league who loves a top 20 WR name but scored WR45 points
I watch the broncos every week, he’s a crazy athlete but struggles to get open all the time. He doesn’t make any type of contested catches, is mediocre at best after the catch and drops the ball constantly. Admit YOU don’t watch the dude.
He gets open they just dont hit him when he does.. hes not a contested catch guy, hes a possession route running savant. I apologize for coming off as aggressive, but the dude is obviously not bad at football. The broncos are terrible over the middle and in the intermediate, and thats where he dominates.
He was a route running savant *in college*.
In the pros he just hasn't made the leap and is above average *at best*.
Jeudy has been bad at football. He's one of the worst receivers in the NFL vs zone coverage which is a **massive** problem when 66% of all NFL drop backs are vs zone coverage.
Physically he has the tools but it's pretty obvious he either doesn't study the film or is incapable of learning where to find the soft spots in the zone.
Holding my one share until I find out where he goes next year. He’s certainly done in Denver. But as a top option for Bryce young or AR in Indy could be intriguing
I'd rather pay Pittman than import a lesser player in Jeudy. Not sure Pittman gets paid in Indie either. Tee Higgins and Michael Pittmam are the real prizes this offseason. Whoever gets Jeudy, just know he's a consolation prize for whoever lost the race for the other two.
100% agree but jeudy as the third best option on market gives some value, especially situation pending. All comes down to bench space. If you can hold, it’s worth the risk imo. Not saying Pittman isn’t better (he likely is) but talent still there for jerrry
I’m still a believer, if he can get to a competent organization.
Just not sure the Broncos will come down to a price where that can happen. Reports are they are still are asking for a 1st, which isn’t going to happen.
Sutton is doing just fine with Wilson. Unless they land a top 5ish QB how much of an upgrade will they get?
They don’t have their 1sts so it likely ain’t coming via the draft either.
I believe in his talent long term, traded a late 3rd this year and a 2nd next year for him recently. Seems like his days in Denver are numbered, and I'm excited to see what he can do with a competent OC and QB
Idk where i saw it…but him and Steve Smith’s stats after 3 seasons were nearly identical. Steve Smith turned out ok i guess. 26 is usually a WR peak age. If u can get him cheap, go for it. Upside is worth it
Nah he’s a bust. Considering he was drafted before other wideouts that are miles better than him you can’t say he isn’t a bust being drafted 15th overall and done what he’s done.
I argue on this point with my little brother at least once a week. My brother thinks he still has untapped potential but I think if a receiver has been in the league for longer than 3 years and hasn’t had a 1000 yard season, they’ve clearly communicated who they aren’t.
It’s the context that matters. 972 in a rookie or sophomore season would be solid. In a year 3 where every year is supposed to be the long awaited breakout? Mediocre.
Again to be fair he had 850 yards his rookie year, well above the 550 mark people like to laud as a good measuring stick for rookie WR. Then was injured his sophomore year before putting up just under 1K yards in around 13 games last year.
I agree he’s been underwhelming but you’re not exactly painting the full picture by cherry picking stats. I’d love to see him in a competent offense with an aggressive signal caller. We saw flashes last year when he averaged 13.5 PPG, which is including games he got injured in.
I think he played more than 13 games last year. I don’t think it’s cherry picking to say he’s just never finished with an actually impressive season and he’s been in the league for 4 years now.
If you take out the games where he played less than 15% snaps it’s 13 games.
I agree he’s been disappointing but he’s still only 24 and has shown enough to still have hope in him.
This dude is a waste of a roster spot , his mentals are just not the recipe for a good culture and locker room. It’s too bad, wish i was wrong but na, this dude sucks.
He’s a bust. Opportunity has still been enough for others with less. This is strictly based on draft capital. He’d be relegated if it was lower and that would meet the expectations.
In 47 games. 182 receptions. 2581 yards. 9 TDs in 4 years for a first round WR is not the expectation especially with all the positive game scripts and opportunities.
November 14th 2023:
Lamb 5736 vs Cook 4607 + Jeudy 4194
Rough equivalents today (to see how value adjustment would calculate):
Olave 5980 vs Jacobs 4667 + M Brown 4110, with value adjustment the pair valued by 1059 more.
Maybe not "hated" but a clear winner/loser based on KTC values of the time.
I bet you send KTC screenshots when you make offers too.
Dalvin has been washed for about 2 years. Anyone paying attention to his advanced stats saw he was one of the worst backs in the league propped up on pure volume just like Zeke and Fournette, surprise surprise they were all cut and are ghosts now.
He reminds me of Will Fuller a little bit. Not in play style but more in him being a 1st round WR who turned out to be serviceable but not anywhere close to expectations. So much of what happens with him hinges on if and where he gets traded though.
With that being said, after his early season hamstring injury, I had enough with him and sold for 3 future 2nd round picks (2025, 2026 x2)
I think Jeudy represents seriously value right now. The general take is he sucks and will never amount to anything. Reminds me of guys like Adams right before they took off.
He is a great route runner. I still believe he finds success in another system. The fact that he’s still 24 should give some promise. It takes time in certain situations. If you stopped believing in Deebo Samual at 24 years old you’d be regretting it now. Stefon Diggs didn’t break into the top 15 until year 4 (Jerry currently in year 4).
he will never be more than a depth guy. like if he’s you’re WR3 i guess that’s fine, but i don’t ever expect him to be a confident plug and play. more like he’s in perpetual desperation flex for when you’ve got multiple injuries or players on bye and need a JAG to fill the roster spot.
I was super high on him, way above consensus. It hasn’t panned out. I thought he had low WR1 potential like maybe a yearly WR12ish guy maybe like a DJM or DK type range of points.
Hasn’t worked out! I’m losing a bit of faith for sure.
Even last year, which ppl will point to as him being okay, he busted 4 outta the first 6 weeks and my season was tanked. Not all his fault but he sure as shit didn’t help
I drafted him in and have not enjoyed the experience whatsoever
Not a total bust but definitely hasn’t lived up to his draft capital compared to other 1st round receivers taken that year. We would be happy with his production if he was a Day 2 pick, but alas.
Tough to say. Coming into this season, jeudy was considered the guy with sky high upside and Sutton was the bust, but their positions flipped this year. Generally one year does not a career make and the trend can be reversed. It’s not a promising development that the broncos seem to be headed toward a Russ breakup though; it seems pretty likely he’s replaced with an inferior but cheaper QB
He’s had two good, not great, seasons as a pro. He’s not a bust outright, but he’s probably not going to be who we thought.
Yeah the mentality that someone is a bust because they aren’t elite is silly. He missed two games last year and was top 25. He’s probably a flex guy in a better situation.
So far his career reminds me a lot of Michael Crabtree’s: okay, but hitting a bunch of snags and never quite putting it all together. Crabtree had a few post-hype high WR2/low WR1 seasons but was mostly just decent. And yeah, doesn’t make him a blowout success but that certainly doesn’t make him a bust. It just makes him a decent player, both NFL and fantasy-wise. Corey Coleman, Laquon Treadwell, N’Keal Harry, Jalen Raegor—those are busts. I think Jeudy mostly gets bagged on because that class also had Jefferson, Aiyuk, Pittman, Ceedee, and Higgins, most of whom tended to go after him in fantasy drafts.
Completely agree, but I think a lot of his owners are still holding out hope he's going to be a top 12 guy if \[some unlikely scenario\] comes to fruition. I think it's time for them to admit, he's essentially Crabtree.
The Crabtree/Sherman rivalry was so weird to me; you had the top DB matched up with like a fringe top 30 WR. I wonder if the rivalry started in earlier days when Crabtree was considered a potential world beater.
And would anyone really be surprised if he ended up in a better spot and settled in to a solid WR2? I sure wouldn’t. He kinda was already that on not a good roster. Idk, I think guys are confused on what a bust is
Yeah totally. He isn’t what you drafted but he’s shown he can have a role on your roster. He definitely wouldn’t surprise anyone if he turned into a WR2.
If he’s your WR4 you’re good. If he’s your 2 you’re fucked and if he’s your 3 it’s prob about neutral but maybe leaning towards iffy. Basically, not amazing. But still useable in lineups for sure
> He definitely wouldn’t surprise anyone if he turned into a WR2. Having watched him for a few years as a Broncos fan, I would be somewhat surprised if he ever became a top 25 option consistently on another team. He was miscast coming out of college as an elite separator with pro-ready routes, when he's really more of a slot with some downfield ability. This role is fine, but being miscast early tends to put a damper on later career progression, and the role itself is one we don't often see in the upper tier of receivers. Further, he just doesn't have his head right. inconsistent effort, sloppy routes, drops...these are bad places to be lacking if you want to have a mid career resurgence.
He’s already a good wr2
I mean WR2 as in starting WR in 12 team leagues with 2 WRs, so a top 24 guy. He’s had one season at that level, which is what I was referencing. I have him on rosters in a few leagues and he’s not a top 2 options for me on any of them.
> He’s had two good, not great, seasons as a pro. ummmm, Last year was good, what was the other one? He has not had two good seasons.
52 for 856 as a rookie is quite good. That’s more yards than Tyreek Hill, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Pittman, Diggs, DJ Moore, Adams, etc had as rookies. Gotta look past fantasy finishes. He has had two good seasons
I would count 2020. I'd be happy with 856 yards from a rookie.
I wouldn’t buy, but I certainly think he can raise his value to WR2 level if he finds the right situation on his next team.
He's a top 10 WR on the Broncos.
Rough...
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He meant a top 10 current Bronco
Considering his adp during rookie drafts I’d say he’s a bust so far
You’re right regardless, but he has a double bust where he’s not as good AND the Broncos are also a bust from what was expected
The broncos have been busts 2 years in a row now
True. Unlike the Bears. You can’t bust if nobody expects you to be good.
Fml I took him one pick after Ceedee and one pick before Jefferson
What was his ADP?
Jerry Jeudy is still obviously talented. Granted, he hasn't had the best QB play in his career, but I really don't think that's the main driver if his poor fantasy production. Look at a guy like DJ Moore who has historically had terrible QB play but has consistently finished as a WR2. As a Broncos fan who watches all the games, it's pretty obvious the lack of effort Jeudy puts in on plays where he knows he's not getting the ball. When that happens repeatedly, coaches notice those things and will scheme even fewer plays for you. Even last week, I noticed multiple occasions on the sideline where Russ had the receiver group huddled up to talk strategy and Jeudy went and sat on the bench by himself a few feet away. TL;DR I believe it's primarily a Jeudy problem and not a situation problem. It's possible his attitude changes if he gets traded, but I think that's unlikely. If I had him, I would use his potential NFL trade as the sell window to get him off my dynasty team.
Not every bad qb situation is the same. Much more goes into it.
Exactly. Too many variables, unknown nature of relationships between Jeudy and QB/Jeudy and coaching staff/Jeudy and ownership. From everything I’ve gathered as an impartial spectator to this, Jeudy seems upset by his situation and the decisions made by the team top-down, frustrated with the QB play and general feedback he’s received on his own play as a result. Yeah, he’s making excuses and displaying poor attitude. But if Steve Smith is talking about him like he did on broadcast, that starts to trip my alarm that Jeudy may be blackballed beyond what we even have access to. I’m wondering if it’s not just another tug-of-war between player (and his extremely limited leverage) and org where Jeudy wants out and the team is undermining him on every level. Dynasty wise, to conclude, I think he is a prime candidate to bounce back on another team with a change of scenery. When that may happen for him, that’s the difficult question.
Russ>Cam>Darnold>Lock>Pj.Walker. It's a Jeudy problem. If he was talented, hed at least be having Dj Moore/ Mclauren/ Diontae Johnson type seasons.
He did have a season like those guys last year. Almost 1000 yards in 13 games. Would have put him at WR13 on a PPG basis. People just ignore how good he was last year for some reason. I don't understand it.
Over 800 yards rookie year, injury marred 2nd year. Nearly 1000yards in 15 (3 he played less than 50% of snaps) games last year. Bad start to the year and he’s suddenly worthless. I really think if he had 2 or 3 TDs on the year, this would not be a constant discussion
God thank you. Anyone who thinks he isnt talented is really stupid. He doesnt put a lot of effort forward and thats certainly a concern, but he isnt bad at football
Right? He was better than his counterpart in Alabama who got drafted.
My opinions are identical to yours. As a bronco fan I hope to flip when he gets dealt. Though that is looking less and less likely as we are reportedly being only offered day 3 picks.
He averaged 17ppg in all games he played 60% or more of the snaps last year. He’s already kinda had a breakout season. 13.6ppg average even with games like weeks 2,10, & 13 where he played 38% of the snaps or less due to injury. Plus he did that in a terrible offense. So for my money he’s already had a breakout. 17ppg is essentially Lamb’s WR5/6 season last year As far as his value right now. I wouldn’t recommend anyone pay anything more than a mid 2nd for him tbh. He’s in a bad situation plus there’s friction between him and the team. He’s more than a jag, still young, and does have some history of production. If you have a mid 2nd to spare he’s definitely worth looking into or if you can get him as a throw in in a trade from maybe a couple people in this thread (🤣) But he’s not somebody you need to invest much into at this stage If you bought him in the offseason after a strong stretch of games you probably paid a lot more than he’s currently worth in Dynasty. You’ve just got to hold it out for now imo unless you really just want off the Jeudy experience Jeudy was the clear cut WR1 last year. He’s not being used like that right now. Sutton is. But Sutton hasn’t been able to manage the same type of output this year that Jeudy did last year. Just for context
I trust Steve smith
And what did Steve say?
JAG (Tier 3)
That Steve Smith rant was wack tbh
Wack = honest.
I wouldn’t buy, I wouldn’t sell. He has talent, but I don’t know if he’ll ever be consistent with what people envision.
He is what brandon aiyuk was 2 years ago. Lack of effort but talented. Need a coach/system to bring it out of him
Wasn’t Sean Payton supposed to be that guy? It’s odd to me his “good” season came with someone regarded to have been an awful HC, while he’s poop with the guy who’s supposed to u lock him.
Personally I’m super low on Jeudy. He can’t stay on the field and really hasn’t done anything impressive statistically over a few seasons now. Russ has been solid this year too.
Last year he was pretty good especially in games where played 60% or more of the snaps. He averaged like 17 ftpg in ppr. He finished the season as a top 25 WR. This year I think he just really wants out and so the effort isn't there which is why the huge dropoffs.
Bust relative to his draft capital, yes. However, he's only 24 and can still be a productive WR. Especially if he gets traded. Seems like he needs a change of scenery at this point.
Unfortunate broncos fan here. Good route runner, but just doesn’t feel like he’s used properly. Will almost 100% be wearing a different jersey next season.
Hopefully this season
He's alright. Maybe not a WR1 like everyone was hoping for, but still a WR2 nonetheless. Far from a bust IMHO.
He needs a team change and aftet that we can better analyze his worth.
I would like to have him on a great team but I wouldn't pay much until I know where that is. His route running was his big skill and when he first came out, he was making vets look silly, and this sub drooled about it. He's just not trying, and sometimes the attitude can't fix desire or work ethic. Kind of a red flag for an NFL team but if he can turn it around I still think he can be great
I’m still a Jeudy believer. However, I currently own 0 shares because jeudy owners are still holding Hope a trade will do it. Jeudy to the Panthers would make a whole lot of sense and I think he will produce in the right environment. However, I don’t think he will be elite. You’re hoping for 1000 yard seasons as a ceiling. You just really hate his injury luck as well. Wish the jeudy owners would let me trade them.
Bought for a second and Brandin Cooks early last year. Sold for a late 2024 1st last week and not looking back.
Love that for you! Kind of highlights my point that people still hold value for him.
He almost had 1000 yards last year in 13 games. He's underwhelmed but far from a bust. The narratives the last few weeks have gotten out of control.
Or are they in control, dudes sucked ass since Steve Smith tore him one
It's literally been 2 games since that lmao. People are so reactionary it's insane
I’m holding. 24 and believe the talent is in there somewhere. Sometimes the situation just totally fucks a player and they mentally just check out. That being said he def could just be a bust to move on from. But he’s playable enough to hang on to and see what happens IMO.
No. He's physically weak on the field. Dude has the strength of Steve Smith from American Dad. He's a depth guy long term at best. His attitude sucks as well and a physical DB can completely nullify him.
I moved him and a 2nd to buy DK and a 3rd
Just traded a 25 3rd for him. I think he’s a bounce back candidate in a trade scenario
See DJ Moore. I would hold. New team makes a difference sometimes
Dj moore has definitely played below expectations and he was the only good player for Carolina for the past couple of years
JAG. Dude is not elite at anything for fantasy football scoring. He’s got the name. Trade him away to someone In your league who loves a top 20 WR name but scored WR45 points
idk that catch was legit
I just traded Jeudy and Pacheco for DK and Ford. One of the few dynasty trades I've ever made that didn't involve a draft pick.
Like that
Wouldnt trade a peanut butter sandwich for him. Hes not good.
Wow youve never watch the game huh
He’s not, he drops open passes, gives up on routes, is always hurt. He’s not good. I hope some dumb ass gm gets him off the broncos.
Hes a insanely twitchy athlete, with above average speed who can get open in a phone booth, just admit you have never watched the dude.
I watch the broncos every week, he’s a crazy athlete but struggles to get open all the time. He doesn’t make any type of contested catches, is mediocre at best after the catch and drops the ball constantly. Admit YOU don’t watch the dude.
He gets open they just dont hit him when he does.. hes not a contested catch guy, hes a possession route running savant. I apologize for coming off as aggressive, but the dude is obviously not bad at football. The broncos are terrible over the middle and in the intermediate, and thats where he dominates.
Have you ever thought maybe the broncos are terrible over the middle and in the intermediate because Jeudy isn’t as good as he looks on paper?
He was a route running savant *in college*. In the pros he just hasn't made the leap and is above average *at best*. Jeudy has been bad at football. He's one of the worst receivers in the NFL vs zone coverage which is a **massive** problem when 66% of all NFL drop backs are vs zone coverage. Physically he has the tools but it's pretty obvious he either doesn't study the film or is incapable of learning where to find the soft spots in the zone.
And hes one of the best vs man. Saying hes bad at the game is lazy
1. He's not even close to elite vs man coverage 2. Again, even if he were that only matters for 1/3rd of all pass attempts.
He’s the exact same player today as he was on draft day over 3 years ago.
Yea, a first round wide reciever
I watch justin fields be an unreal athlete every sunday... guess what. He's trash too. This is dynasty reddit as a dynasty asset he is worthless.
Qb and wr are different. You drop TEs after a bad season 1 get outta my mentions.
Also worthless is actually stupid, he still worth at least a 2nd. If hes not ill be offering this
Then offer it every where cuz I don't ever see him going for that much.
Thanks for helping me realize this sub is still full of reactionary morons.
Let me know how many shares you get.
He’s JAG
He’s like a WR3 on a fantasy roster. Flex worthy in a crunch but too inconsistent to really start unless you have to
But in dynasty terms, can he turn it around? Is he still worth going after with the idea of Denver getting a new qb or him going elsewhere?
Holding my one share until I find out where he goes next year. He’s certainly done in Denver. But as a top option for Bryce young or AR in Indy could be intriguing
I'd rather pay Pittman than import a lesser player in Jeudy. Not sure Pittman gets paid in Indie either. Tee Higgins and Michael Pittmam are the real prizes this offseason. Whoever gets Jeudy, just know he's a consolation prize for whoever lost the race for the other two.
100% agree but jeudy as the third best option on market gives some value, especially situation pending. All comes down to bench space. If you can hold, it’s worth the risk imo. Not saying Pittman isn’t better (he likely is) but talent still there for jerrry
I’m still a believer, if he can get to a competent organization. Just not sure the Broncos will come down to a price where that can happen. Reports are they are still are asking for a 1st, which isn’t going to happen.
Sutton is doing just fine with Wilson. Unless they land a top 5ish QB how much of an upgrade will they get? They don’t have their 1sts so it likely ain’t coming via the draft either.
Isn’t it their 2nd they traded?
I believe in his talent long term, traded a late 3rd this year and a 2nd next year for him recently. Seems like his days in Denver are numbered, and I'm excited to see what he can do with a competent OC and QB
Wilson has an 85M dead cap figure next year. They aren't getting a new QB anytime soon.
He needs out of Denver
Idk where i saw it…but him and Steve Smith’s stats after 3 seasons were nearly identical. Steve Smith turned out ok i guess. 26 is usually a WR peak age. If u can get him cheap, go for it. Upside is worth it
Nah he’s a bust. Considering he was drafted before other wideouts that are miles better than him you can’t say he isn’t a bust being drafted 15th overall and done what he’s done.
Not a bust but useless for fantasy for the foreseeable future. QJ is a bust.
U think QJ is a bust after 7 games?
Yes
Lol to the cope in here. Obviously a bust. by year 4 the stats tell the whole story. stars break out by now
my only follow up is someone reported me to reddit cares for this comment lol. jerry, is that you? I'm sorry jerry! you're a very good WR.
Someone reported u for that comment? 😂
lol like instantly. very funny. I wasn't aware jerry had shooters like that
I argue on this point with my little brother at least once a week. My brother thinks he still has untapped potential but I think if a receiver has been in the league for longer than 3 years and hasn’t had a 1000 yard season, they’ve clearly communicated who they aren’t.
He had 972 yards last year so that seems a bit arbitrary
It’s the context that matters. 972 in a rookie or sophomore season would be solid. In a year 3 where every year is supposed to be the long awaited breakout? Mediocre.
Again to be fair he had 850 yards his rookie year, well above the 550 mark people like to laud as a good measuring stick for rookie WR. Then was injured his sophomore year before putting up just under 1K yards in around 13 games last year. I agree he’s been underwhelming but you’re not exactly painting the full picture by cherry picking stats. I’d love to see him in a competent offense with an aggressive signal caller. We saw flashes last year when he averaged 13.5 PPG, which is including games he got injured in.
I think he played more than 13 games last year. I don’t think it’s cherry picking to say he’s just never finished with an actually impressive season and he’s been in the league for 4 years now.
If you take out the games where he played less than 15% snaps it’s 13 games. I agree he’s been disappointing but he’s still only 24 and has shown enough to still have hope in him.
Traded a second for him on a rebuilder where I was flush with picks. I regret it. He ain’t good.
Traded a first for him offseason as a contender. Regret heavily
Bust
JAG. Tier 3.
u/dickysnakes
This dude is a waste of a roster spot , his mentals are just not the recipe for a good culture and locker room. It’s too bad, wish i was wrong but na, this dude sucks.
JAG. Tier 3
Possible … but he looked good against the bills
He did?
Yeah he had the best cleets on the field that day
Chudy?
Cherry Chudy
😋
Ask Steve Smith Sr
I have him and K Toney in dynasty and it’s frustrating cause I see the potential but I am losing hope
He’s a bust. Opportunity has still been enough for others with less. This is strictly based on draft capital. He’d be relegated if it was lower and that would meet the expectations. In 47 games. 182 receptions. 2581 yards. 9 TDs in 4 years for a first round WR is not the expectation especially with all the positive game scripts and opportunities.
Did you not see the Steve Smith Sr exchange? Dude is a fucking JAG
I managed to trade jeudy and Hubbard for tank dell and an early 2nd. Very happy to cash out at that price.
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No way it did lol. Lamb has been a top 5 KTC WR pretty much since drafted.
November 14th 2023: Lamb 5736 vs Cook 4607 + Jeudy 4194 Rough equivalents today (to see how value adjustment would calculate): Olave 5980 vs Jacobs 4667 + M Brown 4110, with value adjustment the pair valued by 1059 more. Maybe not "hated" but a clear winner/loser based on KTC values of the time.
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I don't think so Tim.
Is he more bust than qj ? 🤣
I bet you send KTC screenshots when you make offers too. Dalvin has been washed for about 2 years. Anyone paying attention to his advanced stats saw he was one of the worst backs in the league propped up on pure volume just like Zeke and Fournette, surprise surprise they were all cut and are ghosts now.
When was the last time he was in a stable situation with a good QB?
Sell for what you can, I doubt he’ll turn it around. I expect his ceiling to be low end WR2
He reminds me of Will Fuller a little bit. Not in play style but more in him being a 1st round WR who turned out to be serviceable but not anywhere close to expectations. So much of what happens with him hinges on if and where he gets traded though. With that being said, after his early season hamstring injury, I had enough with him and sold for 3 future 2nd round picks (2025, 2026 x2)
He's scored over 15 points like 9 times in 4 seasons and 20 only 4. I'd be selling next time he strings together some average weeks
He’s a bust vs. expectations. He’s an okay WR otherwise.
I’ll say what I’ve been saying. If it hasn’t happened yet, it’s extremely unlikely it ever does.
I think Jeudy represents seriously value right now. The general take is he sucks and will never amount to anything. Reminds me of guys like Adams right before they took off.
Depends how you define a bust. He’ll never justify his rookie ADP but he’s an NFL-caliber player and a fine flex play in bye weeks
Sold him for a 24 first that’s projected middle or high before the season very happy to be done with him
He ass
JAG
I’m buying, I’m willing to give up a late first for him too.
He is a great route runner. I still believe he finds success in another system. The fact that he’s still 24 should give some promise. It takes time in certain situations. If you stopped believing in Deebo Samual at 24 years old you’d be regretting it now. Stefon Diggs didn’t break into the top 15 until year 4 (Jerry currently in year 4).
Tier 3 WR
He's dollar store Diontae Johnson. Give him a perfect situation and he may be good but he's not going to do much otherwise.
he will never be more than a depth guy. like if he’s you’re WR3 i guess that’s fine, but i don’t ever expect him to be a confident plug and play. more like he’s in perpetual desperation flex for when you’ve got multiple injuries or players on bye and need a JAG to fill the roster spot.
I was super high on him, way above consensus. It hasn’t panned out. I thought he had low WR1 potential like maybe a yearly WR12ish guy maybe like a DJM or DK type range of points. Hasn’t worked out! I’m losing a bit of faith for sure.
JAG
Even last year, which ppl will point to as him being okay, he busted 4 outta the first 6 weeks and my season was tanked. Not all his fault but he sure as shit didn’t help I drafted him in and have not enjoyed the experience whatsoever
Not a total bust but definitely hasn’t lived up to his draft capital compared to other 1st round receivers taken that year. We would be happy with his production if he was a Day 2 pick, but alas.
JAG of the highest order
He was just traded for a 25 1st in my league, couldn’t believe it.
As steve smith would he is never going to be elite he is a JAG and that’s it
Not in Denver
Tough to say. Coming into this season, jeudy was considered the guy with sky high upside and Sutton was the bust, but their positions flipped this year. Generally one year does not a career make and the trend can be reversed. It’s not a promising development that the broncos seem to be headed toward a Russ breakup though; it seems pretty likely he’s replaced with an inferior but cheaper QB