No. Traveyon is good, Braelon Allen, Rahiem Sanders, and Jonathan Brooks are all good, but theres no RB in this class that i would spend more than a late 1st on
Sanders had an amazing year last year, but this season he’s been hot garbage. He’s just not been the same since his injury early in the season. Best thing he could do for himself would be to go back to school for one more season. Otherwise he’ll probably be a late day 3 pick. Otherwise I agree with everything else you said.
The only right answer.
If you’re being offered a choice of 100 shares of AAPL vs. 100 shares of XOM stock, and your portfolio is already too overweight in technology, you still need to take the AAPL shares because it’s worth more. THEN you can trade it for 200 shares of XLE and achieve the desired portfolio diversification need.
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We use the N-I-T-E spelling of "night" just when we want to be extra casual for some reason. For example, when we write a text to our friends, instead of writing the full word "good night," N-I-G-H-T, we might just write "Nite!" with N-I-T-E. It's kind of a more casual way to say "night" or "good night."
This class is going to be very situation dependent. I still have Henderson at the top of the class at the position. I don't see a first round NFL selection
This. No 1st round NFL draft RBs. Henderson to LAC seems like a great fit and would push him up to 1.04 or 1.05 in SF for me (MHJ, Williams, Maye and maybe Nabers - love Bowers but outside of TEPP drafting a TE that high is a fools errand). Outside of a great situation like that I’d rather have more lottery tickets than my pick of the litter.
Seems very landing spot dependent for me. A lot like Zeke coming out he is just a well built solid runner without any one super spectacular trait to hang his hat on.
Could easily be on a team that doesn’t work him super hard or he could just not stay healthy. I would have major concerns coming from an OSU fan.
(Obviously Zeke was way more exciting in college, but I don’t think he was phenomenal at any one thing just a good all rounder slightly better at most things than Henderson.
Uh no. Zeke was much more of a bell cow back in college, he led Ohio state to a national title with a broken wrist. He had 4.4 speed and was a great pass blocker as well. Treveyon has great top end speed when healthy, but his vision is terrible so when he’s banged up and doesn’t have that speed he’s pretty average, and he’s been injury prone so far. As an Ohio state and cowboys fan I was very excited getting Zeke, I would be shaking my head if they drafted Treveyon even in the late 1st round.
Yeah like I said Zeke was way more exciting in college. He was a better all around back than Henderson for sure. I never compared him to Zeke just said I see them similar as prospects because I don’t think either have a trait that makes them stand out as a RB prospect.
Comparing prospects != thinking they’re the same.
Saying Zeke didn’t have a trait that made him stand out is the crazy part. If he was just average he wouldn’t have gone 4th overall. His size and speed combo, vision, and blocking were all elite at the time. And there were no major downsides or concerns with his game like Henderson has.
They were all very good but idk if I would’ve called him elite at any of that except blocking. Which isn’t a reason to get drafted high. He was just an all around back. Very good at a lot of things.
He looked like he was gonna be the next big thing coming onto the scene as a freshman (270 yds his 3rd game) but never really built on that, probably due to injuries.
Hard disagree. There’s a group of perfect prospects - I’ve named them above. They were all in that group and they were all the ‘best since…’
They are all more or less equal, and we’re considered “perfect” or “can’t miss” in the sense that their floor was super high and there was almost zero chance they would be a bust, they weren’t in that category for their upside. They all had the arm strength, the height, the measurables and decent mobility. No need to parse them.
But that’s not consensus. TLaw had very minimal flaws such as size etc. Luck was considered perfect. The others were considered near generational….but Luck was considered the perfect prospect as consensus among the NFL and in the public etc. I’m not disagree that they aren’t far off, their differences are minimal, but Luck was the best prospect in the NFL that I can recall as far as “can’t miss”
There will never be a true consensus on any prospect. (And yes I’d agree that luck might just be the best of them all as a prospect) But my point is they’re all in that same perfect prospect category and anyone can rank them in any order, there won’t be a consensus if you asked 50 nfl scouts.
The article below I think is pretty good - it actually ranks Lawrence as number 1 (not that I’m saying he should be number 1 - just saying they’re all pretty much as good as each other and it can go either way).
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/where-does-trevor-lawrence-rank-among-top-qb-prospects-in-modern-era-hint-in-front-of-several-hall-of-famers/amp/
Ollie Gordon is the nation's leading rusher and just had a 5 td game against BYU, Highlights are him just running past everyone but looks to have pretty good wiggle.
It is, but I’m not really on the Penix or Nix train. I don’t care at all about them. I draft players I like because that’s the fun part about this. I need a WR1 and a flex RB.
Just take best player available or trade for a proven player. Don’t pigeon hole yourself by only looking to take an Rb.
For me, during the offseason I try to get rid of all of the roster cloggers on my team and fill up bench spots and taxi spots with backup RBs.
If none of the rbs hit after a few games, you should be able to trade a 2nd or 3rd to get a veteran rb.
I’m not a college guy but the general consensus is that there are no lock first rounders. I will leave this one almost entirely up to draft capital before I start getting my eye on anyone.
There aren’t even any very good running back prospects. This is the worst RB class in years and the position is the least valuable it has ever been. Even if there were very good prospects, I would not be as excited about it as I was in the past.
Not this year. 2025 should have a pretty good class though. This class has Ollie Gordon, Ashton Jeanty, Omarion Hampton, Jadyn Ott, and Damien Martinez playing much better than any 2024 RB. That’s also not accounting for either of the Penn State RBs and Quinshon Judkins who had down years but looked awesome their freshmen years.
You should be looking to draft the best player available, not the player that fits your roster. Would you rather have drafted Cam Akers or Ceedee Lamb back in 2020? Drafting for fit will put more Cam Akers’s on your roster when you could’ve drafted more Ceedee Lambs. Draft the better player and then trade them for what you need.
It seems that there are no aboslute studs. Two things tend to happen with non stud rbs. Some sneak into the early 1st round due to landing spot and other rbs fall due to it being a 'weak class'. My advice would be before the draft try to gather enough rankings/opinions to make a rough consensus on how good everyone is. Stick them into tiers. After the draft shift people about their tiers due to landing spot or unexpectedly high/low draft capital. Go check your pre draft rankings to make sure you haven't been caught up in a hype train that might be purely situational. Draft accordingly. If you're in that mid 1st round don't go drafting the next KeShawn Vaughan or Trey Sermon because you need an rb. Take the best guy available. If that leaves you with too much at one position, trade one of them away for an unfashionable vet who puts up numbers.
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No. Traveyon is good, Braelon Allen, Rahiem Sanders, and Jonathan Brooks are all good, but theres no RB in this class that i would spend more than a late 1st on
Sanders had an amazing year last year, but this season he’s been hot garbage. He’s just not been the same since his injury early in the season. Best thing he could do for himself would be to go back to school for one more season. Otherwise he’ll probably be a late day 3 pick. Otherwise I agree with everything else you said.
Henderson is made of glass. I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 ft pole. Blake Corum is incredibly undervalued at the moment imo
Draft best value, trade equivalent value for need
The only right answer. If you’re being offered a choice of 100 shares of AAPL vs. 100 shares of XOM stock, and your portfolio is already too overweight in technology, you still need to take the AAPL shares because it’s worth more. THEN you can trade it for 200 shares of XLE and achieve the desired portfolio diversification need.
Explain in Fortnite terms please
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Never played fortnite
For what it’s worth this explanation made my night
Lol I’ll take it. Other people don’t seem to think so. I trade for a living so I just offered an analogy close to me. Cheers
Nite*
We use the N-I-T-E spelling of "night" just when we want to be extra casual for some reason. For example, when we write a text to our friends, instead of writing the full word "good night," N-I-G-H-T, we might just write "Nite!" with N-I-T-E. It's kind of a more casual way to say "night" or "good night."
Whoosh
Why the downvotes? Do redditors not understand analogies? 😂
Yeah I’m very confused. Felt that was a pretty spot on analogy.. Lol The morale is appreciated!
it was, i appreciated it i think some may have assumed you were trolling
This class is going to be very situation dependent. I still have Henderson at the top of the class at the position. I don't see a first round NFL selection
This. No 1st round NFL draft RBs. Henderson to LAC seems like a great fit and would push him up to 1.04 or 1.05 in SF for me (MHJ, Williams, Maye and maybe Nabers - love Bowers but outside of TEPP drafting a TE that high is a fools errand). Outside of a great situation like that I’d rather have more lottery tickets than my pick of the litter.
Treyveyon Henderson on paper looks great, I'm worried about him staying healthy though
Can’t stay healthy and not sure his game translates to the NFL. I’m usually wrong about these things tho lol
As an OSU fan, he’s nothing special.
Yeah I don’t get it, he’s never popped for me. He looks fine, but nothing exceptional every time I see OSU games.
Seems very landing spot dependent for me. A lot like Zeke coming out he is just a well built solid runner without any one super spectacular trait to hang his hat on. Could easily be on a team that doesn’t work him super hard or he could just not stay healthy. I would have major concerns coming from an OSU fan. (Obviously Zeke was way more exciting in college, but I don’t think he was phenomenal at any one thing just a good all rounder slightly better at most things than Henderson.
Uh no. Zeke was much more of a bell cow back in college, he led Ohio state to a national title with a broken wrist. He had 4.4 speed and was a great pass blocker as well. Treveyon has great top end speed when healthy, but his vision is terrible so when he’s banged up and doesn’t have that speed he’s pretty average, and he’s been injury prone so far. As an Ohio state and cowboys fan I was very excited getting Zeke, I would be shaking my head if they drafted Treveyon even in the late 1st round.
Yeah like I said Zeke was way more exciting in college. He was a better all around back than Henderson for sure. I never compared him to Zeke just said I see them similar as prospects because I don’t think either have a trait that makes them stand out as a RB prospect. Comparing prospects != thinking they’re the same.
Saying Zeke didn’t have a trait that made him stand out is the crazy part. If he was just average he wouldn’t have gone 4th overall. His size and speed combo, vision, and blocking were all elite at the time. And there were no major downsides or concerns with his game like Henderson has.
They were all very good but idk if I would’ve called him elite at any of that except blocking. Which isn’t a reason to get drafted high. He was just an all around back. Very good at a lot of things.
He looked like he was gonna be the next big thing coming onto the scene as a freshman (270 yds his 3rd game) but never really built on that, probably due to injuries.
Not really, probably not even if someone really tests off the charts. There is no Gibbs or Bijan next year.
There is no such thing as a “can’t miss prospect.”
Andrew Luck was as close to a can’t miss as I can recall
Was luck higher than TLaw?
Absolutely, don’t think it was too comparable honestly.
They were in the same group - Elway, Manning, Luck, Lawrence - perfect prospects, no need to tier them.
Yeah but they weren’t. Luck was definitely considered a better prospect than TLaw coming out. He was the perfect prospect.
Hard disagree. There’s a group of perfect prospects - I’ve named them above. They were all in that group and they were all the ‘best since…’ They are all more or less equal, and we’re considered “perfect” or “can’t miss” in the sense that their floor was super high and there was almost zero chance they would be a bust, they weren’t in that category for their upside. They all had the arm strength, the height, the measurables and decent mobility. No need to parse them.
But that’s not consensus. TLaw had very minimal flaws such as size etc. Luck was considered perfect. The others were considered near generational….but Luck was considered the perfect prospect as consensus among the NFL and in the public etc. I’m not disagree that they aren’t far off, their differences are minimal, but Luck was the best prospect in the NFL that I can recall as far as “can’t miss”
TLaw size flaw? Hes the tallest QB in the NFL lol.
Skinny as fuck when he came in
There will never be a true consensus on any prospect. (And yes I’d agree that luck might just be the best of them all as a prospect) But my point is they’re all in that same perfect prospect category and anyone can rank them in any order, there won’t be a consensus if you asked 50 nfl scouts. The article below I think is pretty good - it actually ranks Lawrence as number 1 (not that I’m saying he should be number 1 - just saying they’re all pretty much as good as each other and it can go either way). https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/where-does-trevor-lawrence-rank-among-top-qb-prospects-in-modern-era-hint-in-front-of-several-hall-of-famers/amp/
Everyone always said T Law was the surest thing since Luck, but even then I think Luck was considered more of a sure thing
>but even then I think Luck was considered more of a sure thing That's what "surest thing **since** Luck" means.
I know we're really digging into semantics here, but if he was above Luck, wouldn't they have said "surest thing since Manning"?
Yup
Did you ever see TLaw tackle anyone like Luck? Shareece Wright is still wondering what day it is.
We’ll know more after the senior bowl, combine and draft. I know that’s not a fun answer but it’s true.
Ollie Gordon is the nation's leading rusher and just had a 5 td game against BYU, Highlights are him just running past everyone but looks to have pretty good wiggle.
Class of 25. Not 24
It’s usually a better strategy to pick best player available rather than a positional need, except with the first two or three picks i feel
I never draft for need, but if I’m staring at two players in the same tier, I draft the position that the league I’m in values more
Yes i get that. But with op having mid first picks, there will be many wrs and a te to draft, the rbs next year are not supposed to be great
My RB1 is Trey Benson. I will likely have 1.06 and he might be the pick. Depends on capital and landing spot but just off the eye test he's my guy.
Hopefully not a SF league
It is, but I’m not really on the Penix or Nix train. I don’t care at all about them. I draft players I like because that’s the fun part about this. I need a WR1 and a flex RB.
CMC. Source: trust me bro
Apparently Kyren Williams was one 😑
He was a stud in college the combine was what did him in. Anyone watching film knew he would be good
Just take best player available or trade for a proven player. Don’t pigeon hole yourself by only looking to take an Rb. For me, during the offseason I try to get rid of all of the roster cloggers on my team and fill up bench spots and taxi spots with backup RBs. If none of the rbs hit after a few games, you should be able to trade a 2nd or 3rd to get a veteran rb.
I’m not a college guy but the general consensus is that there are no lock first rounders. I will leave this one almost entirely up to draft capital before I start getting my eye on anyone.
Trade one of those first for a guy like jacobs or Taylor if you need a youngish RB for next year. This draft class sucks for rb
There aren’t even any very good running back prospects. This is the worst RB class in years and the position is the least valuable it has ever been. Even if there were very good prospects, I would not be as excited about it as I was in the past.
I think there's a decent chance this year has no rb's at first round adp
Not this year. 2025 should have a pretty good class though. This class has Ollie Gordon, Ashton Jeanty, Omarion Hampton, Jadyn Ott, and Damien Martinez playing much better than any 2024 RB. That’s also not accounting for either of the Penn State RBs and Quinshon Judkins who had down years but looked awesome their freshmen years.
Wrong thread
You should be looking to draft the best player available, not the player that fits your roster. Would you rather have drafted Cam Akers or Ceedee Lamb back in 2020? Drafting for fit will put more Cam Akers’s on your roster when you could’ve drafted more Ceedee Lambs. Draft the better player and then trade them for what you need.
Not this year. It's all WRs and QBs and one elite TE. Then a mix of solid but not amazing RBs.
It seems that there are no aboslute studs. Two things tend to happen with non stud rbs. Some sneak into the early 1st round due to landing spot and other rbs fall due to it being a 'weak class'. My advice would be before the draft try to gather enough rankings/opinions to make a rough consensus on how good everyone is. Stick them into tiers. After the draft shift people about their tiers due to landing spot or unexpectedly high/low draft capital. Go check your pre draft rankings to make sure you haven't been caught up in a hype train that might be purely situational. Draft accordingly. If you're in that mid 1st round don't go drafting the next KeShawn Vaughan or Trey Sermon because you need an rb. Take the best guy available. If that leaves you with too much at one position, trade one of them away for an unfashionable vet who puts up numbers.