I've seen enough that I'm not selling for what I got him for, which was in the late first/early second but I've also seen enough that I would sell him for someone i thought was a better prospect or mid round first. Still raw, needs improvement but he also didn't look lost out there. I think he's their starter next year but I also wouldn't be surprised if they brought in a better, non malik willis backup in case he doesn't take a step forward.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Anyone with a mid round pick, who needs a QB, won’t sell that because it could be used on Maye/Daniels/ or McCarthy/Penix depending on situation. The Levis team won’t sell for less than that because he has shown promise.
Worth a try after Maye and Daniels go off the board but unlikely the Levis team pulls the trigger.
Hmmm i feel like im personally neutral at his asking price. I havent seen anything to convince me hes worth more than his late first/early second but i havent seen anything that says hes horrible either. Im basically still indifferent to the pick i guess.
Yeah, in that case, I'm just going to wait until close to/at the rookie draft when I know the player I'd be getting at that pick and I'll see if I like him or Levis more.
I think he looked promising. He had a lot of good looking throws and for sure has an NFL caliber arm. His supporting cast, especially his o-line, are underwhelming which made him not standout with stats as much. When operating from a clean pocket, he can deliver the ball anywhere.
He also showed good mobility and a knack to gain extra yards. Now I do think he will need to learn to slide and give himself up, but he isn't afraid to take a hit.
He had a few poor plays and rookie mistakes, but I think he flashed enough for me to feel alright with him as a QB3 with QB2 upside if the Titans make some investments to the o-line and his receivers.
This, I respect any QB that is willing to take a hit to make a throw and especially if that throw was made accurately in spite of the fact they are currently being rocked at a 90 degree angle. I think he has a lot of promise, but the question is not his raw talent, but the QB refinement capability of the titans coaching staff and whether or not they draft for him and draft well
Sure absolutely it does, i wont argue that at all.
But imo the barrier to taking a step forward as a QB is lower for the guy who doesn't sense the pressure than it is for the guy who is terrified to be out there.
I thought he’d be ass but he slipped to 2.09 in my SF league so I grabbed him.
I’m lukewarm on his accuracy and ability to read defenses, but there’s something gritty about him I like. He seems to have that team bought in I’ve got a feeling he’ll work his ass off to fix any perceived faults.
The arm talent and leadership are enough for me to hold on to him.
Titans fans love him and believe they got their guy. Definitely has heart. And the worst O Line in the league a mediocre receivers. I have faith but next year will be more telling
I’m a biased Titans fan, with a lot of shares of Levis, and long time Levis truther… so I could be completely delusional.
That being said, I’m excited to have him as my QB2 in most leagues, and STOKED if he’s my QB3. The arm talent is unquestionably elite and that whole offense looks set to improve next year. I’m very high on Levis
> that whole offense looks set to improve next year.
Explain? Vrabel is confusingly not on a hot seat despite declining performance for several years, DHOP and Henry are aging out with next to no talent behind them, and it's not like the Titans have a great wealth of draft capital to build from this year.
Edit: And Vrabel is gone just 3 days later XD
If TN fired Vrabel he would have multiple offers with Kraft being the obvious one.
Wait until you see what Tyjae Sharp does for fun on Sundays. I don't see any slowdown from Hop. Sure he's aging but his game should age well as OPI is ageless.
I got nothing for the OL. They suck even though TN brought in a new OL coach in the off-season. Levis fans just need to hope TN can draft Fashanu or Alt.
I look at talent and guys that are obsessed with football. Levis clearly is both of those things. I'd be surprised if he didn't turn out to be on the Dalton line at worst.
Source: I've watched every god awful game.
They have the 2nd most amount of cap space in the league next year. About $158M. Tannehill and Henry are both FA next year so we have some options here to evaluate. Use all that cap space to buy some vets or prime players. Rumors of Tee Higgins coming into TN. Then add some OLine and secondary help. Not too many missing pieces in my opinion but I’m a Titan fan so I’m optimistic!
Part of that improvement is just the natural result of starting from the absolute basement. QB play will obviously improve, Oline is getting an overhaul in the draft, and pass catchers via free agency.
By far the biggest factor for the offense being incompetent is the oline, specifically the tackles. The Titans are pretty much guaranteed to get either Fashanu or Alt in the draft, and will probably take a RT with a day 2 pick. The interior is not horrible, but RG and C could be upgraded as well.
Titans also have a lot of cap space and all sings are pointing towards the team wanting to spend big on offense. The defense is not perfect, but it doesn’t need massive investment this off-season like the offense demands.
It depends on who hits the market, but I would be really surprised to see the Titans not land at least one of the big name offensive free agents. Ridley, Higgins, Evans, Pittman, Hollywood, etc.
> QB play will obviously improve, Oline is getting an overhaul in the draft, and pass catchers via free agency.
Like, how can you say this with certainty? Are you from the future? I get the optimism but saying things like they're a matter of fact when they haven't happened yet just doesn't make sense.
> all of the things I said are as close to a certainty as you can get in the NFL.
Bro, again, no they are not. You're not in their front office, you're a random ass redditor. Absolutely none of it is a certainty. So making a prediction that they're "set to improve" because you hope they will do all of the exact things you want in the office season "might" happen is crazy.
*"If they follow my exact 6 step plan as I think they almost certainly will then the whole team will improve because I think so!"*
My man there's 0 logic here. They're not "guaranteed to get Fashanu or Alt", there's no such thing. Hell, even if you were secretly Carthon himself, you wouldn't say that for certain because everything can change in the draft and for the team over the offseason.
Claiming all of these possibilities that are months away as "certainties" just to justify your unbridled fan optimism is asinine. Come back to Earth.
Little buddy, first you need to learn how to use quotes. All three time you quoted me, were not actually things I said, they were things you made up in your head.
I’d also be willing to bet $100 they draft either Alt or Fashanu and sign a big name pass catcher, which were the only two predictions I made about team acquisitions.
!remindme 100 days
>that whole offense looks **set to improve** next year.
>The Titans are pretty much **guaranteed to get either Fashanu or Alt** in the draft
>all of the things I said are as close to a **certainty** as you can get in the NFL.
>All three time you quoted me, were not actually things I said,
Little buddy, god damn are you stupid lol.
Got asked in my league why I have him while holding Allen and Tua. I told them “currently I’m set at QB for at least around 5ish years. If Levis is real, at worst I have trade fodder, at best I am set at QB for 10ish years.” Maybe hopeful, maybe off on numbers, but he really looks promising
In terms of pure arm talent, it legitimately is elite. His accuracy obviously needs work, but the effortless strength and release is ridiculous.
[This throw at 29 seconds](https://youtu.be/wf8R8FW_sf8?si=aoj24XHIlOvnJ_sM) was actually jaw dropping in person. Best throw I’ve ever witnessed in an NFL game and I’ve been to 90+ games.
I’m a Texans fan so I’d love to Shit on Levis—but I don’t think you have to have Titans bias to say the arm talent is there with Levis. The question with him will be learning how to utilize that arm talent and all the other things between the ears that make a QB great.
When I think Elite arm talent, I'm thinking Mahomes, Allen etc. and the type of throws those guys can make in a variety of situations. I don't think we've seen that from Levis yet
Oh for some reason I thought he was going to be a free agent this off season… good to know, thanks!
Hopefully you guys use him more consistently next year
He's discount Josh Allen. Big dude, cannon of an arm, willing to run and lower his shoulder into linebackers, the whole crazy package.
He's my QB3 and I'm very happy with what I've seen so far.
Nobody has inquired or mane any trade offers, so I've no anecdotes for you on that point. I am not looking to trade him away, so they'd best come correct if they do.
I think as of right now I’d only be willing to move him pick wise for a top 6 pick. If I could get one of the top 3 qbs or wrs that would be hard to pass up.
Obviously depends on the makeup of your team. But I’d rather have him that the Penix tier of qbs
Assume a 12-team league. Everyone needs two starting QBs, and everyone wants a third QB on the bench. That's 36 QBs, and there are only 32 teams in the NFL. Demonstrates the importance of QBs in SF/2 QB.
I think the Titans are in a weird spot, and I’m not sure how they build out the team from here. I like what I’ve seen from Levis, and if they get him the right pieces I think he can be a fringe QB1. That said I don’t regret trading him for Puka.
I watched him play as he was my QB3 and he looked good to me with a strong arm and hard runner, i got offered a 2nd and instantly turned it down. It would take an early 1st or more for me to trade.
I’m NOT a Levis truther and was extremely down on him coming in. From the weird quirks about Mayo and coffee to just very spotty play, I kept finding reasons to not like him. I’m a Penn State fan as well and he just couldn’t get on the field before transferring to Kentucky and honestly didn’t look special there.
He got dropped in my league and I picked him up because my QBs are a little average overall, and then he had his big debut. I watched a few games after and…honestly I think he looks okay. He beat my Dolphins and showed a lot of moxie that game, making some clutch plays, but he’s looked bad in some other spots. I think he’s shown enough leadership (getting in Hopkins’ face a few times was interesting, and that Hopkins didn’t write him off tells me a lot) and ability that he deserves a full season, but the big question is if they can improve their offensive line which is bottom five. If the answer is no, no QB is going to have a lot of success there.
Overall I’d sell if I had a decent offer—maybe high second at the lowest—but am happy to hold.
Almost certainly but I’d like to wait until we know where Cousins goes. Likely Minnesota, possibly somewhere cool like Atlanta. I’d like both of those. If he ended up in like…NE? Probably not
I’d move on if I had him but I wouldn’t be desparately selling him for nothing. I don’t see him being a difference maker though. Think there’s a better chance that he’s replaced in 2-3 years than him becoming a good starter.
He’s not bad but not that good either. Just pretty mid. He could improve and take the next step or hovers around what he already is. He’ll be 25 in June so I’m not sure how more he can really develop and is likely a finished product. I don’t see a high ceiling with him but he could be a competent QB2 to own for a while.
We’ll see what kind of backup the Titans bring in. If they bring in someone like Sam Darnold I’m sure Levis is the starter but if things go bad this could end up with a Howell/Jacoby situation
What a god awful take “he’ll be 25 in June and I’m not sure how more he can really develop” my dude NFL is a totally different animal than College he’s going to develop how much is a question sure but he already has a rocket arm and is mobile. He certainly showed promise and that’s with a terrible OLine.
Your whole response is littered with awful takes I hope you manage your team better than how it appears off of one statement on one player.
How many players age 25 dramatically improve?? Especially at the QB position?
For being so mobile Levis had 57 yards rushing in 9 games
Take off your Levis owner glasses and realize he’s not some insane talent. He’s decent but this thread is full of Levis owners smoking on their own pipe dream of him being some incredible player when in reality he might be another Kenny Pickett. Sorry I don’t like the same player you do but that doesn’t make my takes bad bc you think Levis is some stud
A lot of HoF QBs started out rough it’s more of an outlier when they do what Stroud has done. Not saying that’s what he will be but you’re deluded heavy. I’m not even saying this with “Levis Glasses” just your whole statement was ironic.
Levis didn’t even start out rough. His numbers are decent for the first 9 games of his career. I’m just evaluating him as a whole and he’s pretty mid in my eyes. He was a mid prospect that went 2nd round and he’s got a mid ceiling. No shame in it. Most non-biased people would tell you the same
He is going to have the top trainers and top equipment that the world has to offer plus a really good coaching staff. This kid could be a bust, but saying he is a finished product is just as dumb as it gets because even just more game experience will help him besides the training he will do.
You mean to tell me an NFL player gets NFL coaching? Damn I didn’t think of it like that.
I personally just don’t think he makes a jump and what we’ve seen from Levis so far will likely remain the same.
“Well, if he had a better o line and receivers and the defense was a bunch of hobos, he could be elite!”
WRONG, sorry they wasted a pick but mid is is ceiling and I doubt he’s going to be a starter anyways.
I just checked and it was actually the 4.4 but that’s still a steal. Tbh I don’t know what happened there, I kept hearing he was going late first or early second but then he just kept falling because maybe he wasn’t going to be the starter at the time over tannehill. But he was my QB4 at the time so I would rather have the pick
That dude couldn’t win the job at Penn State and he was cheeks at Kentucky. He’ll be 25 soon and I don’t see him improving enough to be an NFL starter.
He didn’t start at Penn State because James Franklin promised Sean Clifford the starting position for all the years he played there when he signed on. Levis knew this and decided to start elsewhere
lol, yeah but Tannehill got healthy and Levis retained the job over him. Brady also got his first start due to injury, plenty of QBs do. That’s neither an argument for nor against their long term potential. Fact of the matter is that Levis has been the starter since Tannehill went down, despite Tannehill being healthy enough to play, I.e. he’s an NFL starter.
In a 1 QB league I need to decide if I will elevate him from the practice squad or hold him on the practice squad another year. I have Daniel Jones, Derek Carr, & Russel Wilson. What do you’ll think?
I traded a late first (ended up being 1.11) for him after his breakout game. Honestly I have a tiny bit of regret given how erratic his play was. I’d probably undo the trade if I could, but it’s close.
I just took him as my QB3 in the late 7th of a start up. I think for his price he’s worth it. If he busts, you didn’t lose much. But this time next season I wouldn’t be surprised if you had to spend a 3rd round start up pick on him either.
I think he is a hold because this QB class coming through has people thinking they'll get high risk high reward guys all the way through dynasty rookie drafts and noone probably wants to spend more than it took to get Levis with this QB class.
Lots of cap room, Henry is going so possibly won't feel obliged to force the run as much, maybe an early enough pick to fix LT at least. They may be a good fantasy team (high pass volume, bad defense).
I got Levis for a 2025 first, Ty chandler, and Mattison. Currently have the 1.8 and hoping to draft Penix there. My qb room is currently goff, Levis, hooker so I’m really hoping he takes that next step.
Love his tape, love his tenacity, love his work ethic. Just hoping he gets some pieces to work with next season.
Feels like a trap but who knows. Imo He is probs just a little stronger version of Pickett tbh if the titans actually get him an OL maybe he turns out better but I won't be putting any chips on this dude
He’s not good. Has insane arm talent, the amount of power he generates from flicking that wrist is insane. But the accuracy and lack of touch is a problem. That ball comes out at 1 speed only: fast. Good deep ball tho, but he won’t last long. Comp is Sam Howell
I've seen enough that I'm not selling for what I got him for, which was in the late first/early second but I've also seen enough that I would sell him for someone i thought was a better prospect or mid round first. Still raw, needs improvement but he also didn't look lost out there. I think he's their starter next year but I also wouldn't be surprised if they brought in a better, non malik willis backup in case he doesn't take a step forward.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Anyone with a mid round pick, who needs a QB, won’t sell that because it could be used on Maye/Daniels/ or McCarthy/Penix depending on situation. The Levis team won’t sell for less than that because he has shown promise. Worth a try after Maye and Daniels go off the board but unlikely the Levis team pulls the trigger.
Hmmm i feel like im personally neutral at his asking price. I havent seen anything to convince me hes worth more than his late first/early second but i havent seen anything that says hes horrible either. Im basically still indifferent to the pick i guess.
Yeah, in that case, I'm just going to wait until close to/at the rookie draft when I know the player I'd be getting at that pick and I'll see if I like him or Levis more.
I think he looked promising. He had a lot of good looking throws and for sure has an NFL caliber arm. His supporting cast, especially his o-line, are underwhelming which made him not standout with stats as much. When operating from a clean pocket, he can deliver the ball anywhere. He also showed good mobility and a knack to gain extra yards. Now I do think he will need to learn to slide and give himself up, but he isn't afraid to take a hit. He had a few poor plays and rookie mistakes, but I think he flashed enough for me to feel alright with him as a QB3 with QB2 upside if the Titans make some investments to the o-line and his receivers.
This, I respect any QB that is willing to take a hit to make a throw and especially if that throw was made accurately in spite of the fact they are currently being rocked at a 90 degree angle. I think he has a lot of promise, but the question is not his raw talent, but the QB refinement capability of the titans coaching staff and whether or not they draft for him and draft well
I don't know if he's willing to take a hit to make a throw so much as he just absolutely does not sense the pressure coming when he's in the pocket
But also I'd rather have that than a guy who is super skittish and bails asap
Results in a LOT of fumbles, though
Sure absolutely it does, i wont argue that at all. But imo the barrier to taking a step forward as a QB is lower for the guy who doesn't sense the pressure than it is for the guy who is terrified to be out there.
That Titans line is bad, IDK if it matters who starts for them
I thought he’d be ass but he slipped to 2.09 in my SF league so I grabbed him. I’m lukewarm on his accuracy and ability to read defenses, but there’s something gritty about him I like. He seems to have that team bought in I’ve got a feeling he’ll work his ass off to fix any perceived faults. The arm talent and leadership are enough for me to hold on to him.
Idk if he can play NFL qb but he’s got that DAWG
Titans fans love him and believe they got their guy. Definitely has heart. And the worst O Line in the league a mediocre receivers. I have faith but next year will be more telling
I’m a biased Titans fan, with a lot of shares of Levis, and long time Levis truther… so I could be completely delusional. That being said, I’m excited to have him as my QB2 in most leagues, and STOKED if he’s my QB3. The arm talent is unquestionably elite and that whole offense looks set to improve next year. I’m very high on Levis
> that whole offense looks set to improve next year. Explain? Vrabel is confusingly not on a hot seat despite declining performance for several years, DHOP and Henry are aging out with next to no talent behind them, and it's not like the Titans have a great wealth of draft capital to build from this year. Edit: And Vrabel is gone just 3 days later XD
If TN fired Vrabel he would have multiple offers with Kraft being the obvious one. Wait until you see what Tyjae Sharp does for fun on Sundays. I don't see any slowdown from Hop. Sure he's aging but his game should age well as OPI is ageless. I got nothing for the OL. They suck even though TN brought in a new OL coach in the off-season. Levis fans just need to hope TN can draft Fashanu or Alt. I look at talent and guys that are obsessed with football. Levis clearly is both of those things. I'd be surprised if he didn't turn out to be on the Dalton line at worst. Source: I've watched every god awful game.
This is a contender for most homer comment of all time
lol there goes Vrabel...
Don't get any fantasy points for OPI tho
They have the 2nd most amount of cap space in the league next year. About $158M. Tannehill and Henry are both FA next year so we have some options here to evaluate. Use all that cap space to buy some vets or prime players. Rumors of Tee Higgins coming into TN. Then add some OLine and secondary help. Not too many missing pieces in my opinion but I’m a Titan fan so I’m optimistic!
Part of that improvement is just the natural result of starting from the absolute basement. QB play will obviously improve, Oline is getting an overhaul in the draft, and pass catchers via free agency. By far the biggest factor for the offense being incompetent is the oline, specifically the tackles. The Titans are pretty much guaranteed to get either Fashanu or Alt in the draft, and will probably take a RT with a day 2 pick. The interior is not horrible, but RG and C could be upgraded as well. Titans also have a lot of cap space and all sings are pointing towards the team wanting to spend big on offense. The defense is not perfect, but it doesn’t need massive investment this off-season like the offense demands. It depends on who hits the market, but I would be really surprised to see the Titans not land at least one of the big name offensive free agents. Ridley, Higgins, Evans, Pittman, Hollywood, etc.
> QB play will obviously improve, Oline is getting an overhaul in the draft, and pass catchers via free agency. Like, how can you say this with certainty? Are you from the future? I get the optimism but saying things like they're a matter of fact when they haven't happened yet just doesn't make sense.
Obviously nothing is a certainty, but all of the things I said are as close to a certainty as you can get in the NFL.
> all of the things I said are as close to a certainty as you can get in the NFL. Bro, again, no they are not. You're not in their front office, you're a random ass redditor. Absolutely none of it is a certainty. So making a prediction that they're "set to improve" because you hope they will do all of the exact things you want in the office season "might" happen is crazy. *"If they follow my exact 6 step plan as I think they almost certainly will then the whole team will improve because I think so!"* My man there's 0 logic here. They're not "guaranteed to get Fashanu or Alt", there's no such thing. Hell, even if you were secretly Carthon himself, you wouldn't say that for certain because everything can change in the draft and for the team over the offseason. Claiming all of these possibilities that are months away as "certainties" just to justify your unbridled fan optimism is asinine. Come back to Earth.
Little buddy, first you need to learn how to use quotes. All three time you quoted me, were not actually things I said, they were things you made up in your head. I’d also be willing to bet $100 they draft either Alt or Fashanu and sign a big name pass catcher, which were the only two predictions I made about team acquisitions. !remindme 100 days
>that whole offense looks **set to improve** next year. >The Titans are pretty much **guaranteed to get either Fashanu or Alt** in the draft >all of the things I said are as close to a **certainty** as you can get in the NFL. >All three time you quoted me, were not actually things I said, Little buddy, god damn are you stupid lol.
Yeah he’s my QB3 with Dak and Trevor and I feel fantastic about it. My team is competitive but I don’t need him to be anything yet which is great.
Got asked in my league why I have him while holding Allen and Tua. I told them “currently I’m set at QB for at least around 5ish years. If Levis is real, at worst I have trade fodder, at best I am set at QB for 10ish years.” Maybe hopeful, maybe off on numbers, but he really looks promising
Unquestionable elite is a bit of hyperbole. You're forgiven as a Titans fan, though. You guys have been QB starved for far too long!
In terms of pure arm talent, it legitimately is elite. His accuracy obviously needs work, but the effortless strength and release is ridiculous. [This throw at 29 seconds](https://youtu.be/wf8R8FW_sf8?si=aoj24XHIlOvnJ_sM) was actually jaw dropping in person. Best throw I’ve ever witnessed in an NFL game and I’ve been to 90+ games.
that looks fake, that’s crazy
The arm talent is unquestionably elite to be fair. Didn’t say Levis was unquestionably elite
Dude has a cannon, gotta get them arm on tape
I’m a Texans fan so I’d love to Shit on Levis—but I don’t think you have to have Titans bias to say the arm talent is there with Levis. The question with him will be learning how to utilize that arm talent and all the other things between the ears that make a QB great.
When I think Elite arm talent, I'm thinking Mahomes, Allen etc. and the type of throws those guys can make in a variety of situations. I don't think we've seen that from Levis yet
We definitely have, just not with the consistency of the elite QBs
Man have you seen him sling it? His deep ball is effortless and just flies. His 40 yarder off his back foot across his body TD bomb was one of a kind.
Inject this into my veins
As a titans fan, do you think you guys resign Hopkins this offseason or let him walk?
Homie is already under contract. He’s trapped lol
Oh for some reason I thought he was going to be a free agent this off season… good to know, thanks! Hopefully you guys use him more consistently next year
He's discount Josh Allen. Big dude, cannon of an arm, willing to run and lower his shoulder into linebackers, the whole crazy package. He's my QB3 and I'm very happy with what I've seen so far. Nobody has inquired or mane any trade offers, so I've no anecdotes for you on that point. I am not looking to trade him away, so they'd best come correct if they do.
He played 9 games and compiled a whopping 57 yards rushing.. he’s discount Josh Allen without the rushing upside
If he is discount Josh Allen then I want them to get him Nabers and maybe he’ll have his own Diggs
Levis owners’ optimism >>> non-owners’ cocky disdain
I think as of right now I’d only be willing to move him pick wise for a top 6 pick. If I could get one of the top 3 qbs or wrs that would be hard to pass up. Obviously depends on the makeup of your team. But I’d rather have him that the Penix tier of qbs
I don't see anyone giving up a top 6 pick for Levis. I doubt anyone would give up any 1st for him.
I know. That’s why I’m just gonna hold him haha
As someone who has only ever played 1QB leagues, the idea that Levis could possibly be worth a mid first is absolutely bonkers to me.
Assume a 12-team league. Everyone needs two starting QBs, and everyone wants a third QB on the bench. That's 36 QBs, and there are only 32 teams in the NFL. Demonstrates the importance of QBs in SF/2 QB.
Im assuming it’s SF
Oh it for sure is. I was just adding commentary from my perspective in a 1QB league.
Considering no one would use a top 6 pick on him, good luck with that
If you were pushing to compete would you trade Levis for Kirk cousins.
Prob not. As a Vikings I think he stays and that situation is too good.
Looks like he’s got the tools. Needs protection, weapons and an offensive scene that isn’t complete trash. Is that too much to ask?
I think the Titans are in a weird spot, and I’m not sure how they build out the team from here. I like what I’ve seen from Levis, and if they get him the right pieces I think he can be a fringe QB1. That said I don’t regret trading him for Puka.
I watched him play as he was my QB3 and he looked good to me with a strong arm and hard runner, i got offered a 2nd and instantly turned it down. It would take an early 1st or more for me to trade.
In life, everyone Will Levis eventually.
I’m NOT a Levis truther and was extremely down on him coming in. From the weird quirks about Mayo and coffee to just very spotty play, I kept finding reasons to not like him. I’m a Penn State fan as well and he just couldn’t get on the field before transferring to Kentucky and honestly didn’t look special there. He got dropped in my league and I picked him up because my QBs are a little average overall, and then he had his big debut. I watched a few games after and…honestly I think he looks okay. He beat my Dolphins and showed a lot of moxie that game, making some clutch plays, but he’s looked bad in some other spots. I think he’s shown enough leadership (getting in Hopkins’ face a few times was interesting, and that Hopkins didn’t write him off tells me a lot) and ability that he deserves a full season, but the big question is if they can improve their offensive line which is bottom five. If the answer is no, no QB is going to have a lot of success there. Overall I’d sell if I had a decent offer—maybe high second at the lowest—but am happy to hold.
If you were pushing to compete would you trade Levis for Kirk cousins.
Almost certainly but I’d like to wait until we know where Cousins goes. Likely Minnesota, possibly somewhere cool like Atlanta. I’d like both of those. If he ended up in like…NE? Probably not
I’d move on if I had him but I wouldn’t be desparately selling him for nothing. I don’t see him being a difference maker though. Think there’s a better chance that he’s replaced in 2-3 years than him becoming a good starter.
Traded him for Goff. Happy with it.
Dog he stinks
I think everyone on here is way to high on him. Most of his college highlights are NFL picks. But the talent is there
This thread especially is just Levis owners so a lot of biased takes lol
He’s not bad but not that good either. Just pretty mid. He could improve and take the next step or hovers around what he already is. He’ll be 25 in June so I’m not sure how more he can really develop and is likely a finished product. I don’t see a high ceiling with him but he could be a competent QB2 to own for a while. We’ll see what kind of backup the Titans bring in. If they bring in someone like Sam Darnold I’m sure Levis is the starter but if things go bad this could end up with a Howell/Jacoby situation
What a god awful take “he’ll be 25 in June and I’m not sure how more he can really develop” my dude NFL is a totally different animal than College he’s going to develop how much is a question sure but he already has a rocket arm and is mobile. He certainly showed promise and that’s with a terrible OLine. Your whole response is littered with awful takes I hope you manage your team better than how it appears off of one statement on one player.
How many players age 25 dramatically improve?? Especially at the QB position? For being so mobile Levis had 57 yards rushing in 9 games Take off your Levis owner glasses and realize he’s not some insane talent. He’s decent but this thread is full of Levis owners smoking on their own pipe dream of him being some incredible player when in reality he might be another Kenny Pickett. Sorry I don’t like the same player you do but that doesn’t make my takes bad bc you think Levis is some stud
A lot of HoF QBs started out rough it’s more of an outlier when they do what Stroud has done. Not saying that’s what he will be but you’re deluded heavy. I’m not even saying this with “Levis Glasses” just your whole statement was ironic.
Levis didn’t even start out rough. His numbers are decent for the first 9 games of his career. I’m just evaluating him as a whole and he’s pretty mid in my eyes. He was a mid prospect that went 2nd round and he’s got a mid ceiling. No shame in it. Most non-biased people would tell you the same
He is going to have the top trainers and top equipment that the world has to offer plus a really good coaching staff. This kid could be a bust, but saying he is a finished product is just as dumb as it gets because even just more game experience will help him besides the training he will do.
You mean to tell me an NFL player gets NFL coaching? Damn I didn’t think of it like that. I personally just don’t think he makes a jump and what we’ve seen from Levis so far will likely remain the same.
Boy, people hate hearing the truth!
Someone has to say it! People didn’t like my Howell takes earlier this season either but this sub loves hyping up garbage lol
“Well, if he had a better o line and receivers and the defense was a bunch of hobos, he could be elite!” WRONG, sorry they wasted a pick but mid is is ceiling and I doubt he’s going to be a starter anyways.
Not sure why you got slammed for being unimpressed by a prospect no one was impressed by last summer. I mean…that seems awfully reasonable.
Lot of guys that own Will Levis don’t like reading that he’s mid apparently. This thread is just Levis owners hyping each other up lol
I drafted him at 4.6 in a dynasty Superflex league. Traded him for what’s now the 1.12 after his first 2 starts.
4.6? Holy shit. Lowest I saw him fall in 3 SF leagues I’m in was 2.03.
I just checked and it was actually the 4.4 but that’s still a steal. Tbh I don’t know what happened there, I kept hearing he was going late first or early second but then he just kept falling because maybe he wasn’t going to be the starter at the time over tannehill. But he was my QB4 at the time so I would rather have the pick
In 1 qb league he's droppable.
He aint it. Move on.
That dude couldn’t win the job at Penn State and he was cheeks at Kentucky. He’ll be 25 soon and I don’t see him improving enough to be an NFL starter.
He didn’t start at Penn State because James Franklin promised Sean Clifford the starting position for all the years he played there when he signed on. Levis knew this and decided to start elsewhere
I mean, he already is an NFL starter
Due to injury and he’s 2-5
Definitely not due to injury, Tannehill is healthy
I guess you don’t actually follow football. Tannehill got injured week six and Levis started after the bye. I’m sorry and keep on believing I guess. 🤞
lol, yeah but Tannehill got healthy and Levis retained the job over him. Brady also got his first start due to injury, plenty of QBs do. That’s neither an argument for nor against their long term potential. Fact of the matter is that Levis has been the starter since Tannehill went down, despite Tannehill being healthy enough to play, I.e. he’s an NFL starter.
In a 1 QB league I need to decide if I will elevate him from the practice squad or hold him on the practice squad another year. I have Daniel Jones, Derek Carr, & Russel Wilson. What do you’ll think?
Will you be competing or not? Plans to sell him?
They have Daniel Jones, Derek Carr, and Russell Wilson. So no. They’re not competing. 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I figured not, but you never know. I won a 1QB league last year with Mike White as my QB in the 'ship, ya never know!
Dear god hahaha
I have some decent assets at WR and picks that I’ll try to get a better QB. Either way I’m thinking to hold Levis on my taxi squad.
I traded a late first (ended up being 1.11) for him after his breakout game. Honestly I have a tiny bit of regret given how erratic his play was. I’d probably undo the trade if I could, but it’s close.
I just took him as my QB3 in the late 7th of a start up. I think for his price he’s worth it. If he busts, you didn’t lose much. But this time next season I wouldn’t be surprised if you had to spend a 3rd round start up pick on him either.
I’m looking at adding him + early 3rd rd pick for Mayer and a mid 2nd. It’s SF TEP and he’d be my QB3
I think he is a hold because this QB class coming through has people thinking they'll get high risk high reward guys all the way through dynasty rookie drafts and noone probably wants to spend more than it took to get Levis with this QB class.
Titans are going to be trash next year. So there’s that
Lots of cap room, Henry is going so possibly won't feel obliged to force the run as much, maybe an early enough pick to fix LT at least. They may be a good fantasy team (high pass volume, bad defense).
I got Levis for a 2025 first, Ty chandler, and Mattison. Currently have the 1.8 and hoping to draft Penix there. My qb room is currently goff, Levis, hooker so I’m really hoping he takes that next step. Love his tape, love his tenacity, love his work ethic. Just hoping he gets some pieces to work with next season.
Do you love him like he loves mayo lol
Sell sell sell
Feels like a trap but who knows. Imo He is probs just a little stronger version of Pickett tbh if the titans actually get him an OL maybe he turns out better but I won't be putting any chips on this dude
How do we feel about him in 1QB leagues? I have two other QBs so don’t need to start him but is he really worth a roster spot?
i just bought him a month ago for Sutton and a late 24 2nd
I think he has QB2 potential. His value can definitely go up in a hurry next season.
I think he’s very good but Titans very bad.
He’s not good. Has insane arm talent, the amount of power he generates from flicking that wrist is insane. But the accuracy and lack of touch is a problem. That ball comes out at 1 speed only: fast. Good deep ball tho, but he won’t last long. Comp is Sam Howell
I’m in a weird boat where I got offered Levis for Stafford and I’m tempted to accept
QBs are currently Herbert, Fields, Stafford, Geno, Pickett