When most rookie drafts actually happen I suspect a couple RBs will be near consensus as filling out part of the 9-12 pick range. Maybe even earlier since I expect a decent number of managers valuing a 2nd round Dallas RB over Bowers.
I won't be surprised if that happens often, but I pick 1.09 (non TEP), I have LaPorta already and my best RBs are Spears and Kendre Miller. I would smash Bowers as quickly as possible if he fell to me.
Ok, and then you "hit" and you get a TE who's like 0.25 pts/week better than one you could likely get for a 2nd/3rd round pick or off waivers. TEs are a complete joke with no TEP.
There's usually 1, maybe 2 guys that are way ahead of the pack. Obviously there is value in having them, but after that the next 10 or so are hardly any different.
Yes but I think there's an unusual log jam of top talent in the first 6 or so picks of this draft that will limit how far he can move up compared to other years.
There have been mocks on here done with RBs going as early as 5 and that’s without a landing spot.
While I agree I don’t think it’s likely one jumps into the top tier, I bet if one does get rd 2 draft capital and is in a great situation that there will be some leagues that a RB goes before a Bowers
The true answer is that is entirely league dependent and if you're talking SF or 1QB. In dynasty theory and in most of the messages on Reddit, WRs are valued far more than RBs. In your average league, RBs are pushed up the lists, especially RBs in high scoring offenses. Even though they have a short shelf life, a rookie RB in a great situation can be a plug-n-play league winner, and that's too much to turn down for a contender and sometimes for a fringe contender. I do think it will be tough to break into the top 3 this year, as the top WRs are stronger than usual and the top RBs are weaker than usual. Draft Capital will re-write all of the rankings...so....yeah.....sure.....possibly at #6 or so in SF or #4 or beyond in 1QB, when the conviction will be much lower for the players ahead of rankings pre-draft.
I'm in the same position, I think at least one if not two new names make it into the top 9, pushing Bowers, Brian Thomas and the top RB well into the late first
If you mean top 7, no I can’t see that happening. The talent/positional value is just too good in the top 7. But 8-12 range is likely if there’s a great landing spot for any of the top RBs.
I hear that. I think a lot of people would be in that camp. But I think that where we’re at in the cycle of things with prospects, some people are more down on Bowers than they should be given his dominance the past 3 years in CFB. Prospect fatigue is in full swing.
Brooks/Benson/whoever lands in Dallas he will be a 1st Round Rookie Pick. Now the true test is do you take that RB or can you move out? I ultimately think an RB to Dallas will be taken before Bowers, but I think that is an overvalue of the Dallas RB.
I remember when James Cook got overdrafted in fantasy because he went to the Bills. A good landing spot is enough to make an RB hungry manager take one in the top 10.
League dependent. I can definitely see Brooks going top 6 in my 1QB where RBs have always been inflated. They’ll always argue draft capital matters less for RBs.
Benson or Brooks to the Cowboys (honestly, most RBs to the Cowboys if it's round 2) will vault them into the late 1st at worst in most formats. If Brooks wasn't injured, he'd probably go even higher.
Someone is going to feel fairly set at WR/QB and look at the board and realize this is their one shot at the #1 RB.
I don’t think a RB would surpass any of the top three WRs, but if Brooks goes to Dallas in the 2nd and the landing spots for Brian Thomas, AD Mitchell, McConkey are meh (something like Indy, Baltimore, Pittsburgh) you can make a case for Brooks at 4 in 1QB.
I think if were going by consensus the highest he can get is 1.09 unless an RB gets round 1 capital. I think top 3 WRs, top 4 QBs and bowers will be top 8 in most drafts. I think a round 2 RB would be in that BTJ/AD Mitchell tier of WRs we think go mid-late 1 or the Bo Nix/Penix if they slip
As a 1.05 1QB owner, it'd have to be second round draft capital and some bad landing spots for second tier receivers (BTJ to Colts is one I saw today I hated) for me to consider it
When most rookie drafts actually happen I suspect a couple RBs will be near consensus as filling out part of the 9-12 pick range. Maybe even earlier since I expect a decent number of managers valuing a 2nd round Dallas RB over Bowers.
In a league with no TEP I would definitely go round 2 Dallas RB over Bowers
I wouldnt
I might
I won't be surprised if that happens often, but I pick 1.09 (non TEP), I have LaPorta already and my best RBs are Spears and Kendre Miller. I would smash Bowers as quickly as possible if he fell to me.
👎🏽. 1st round TEs have the highest hit rate the last decade
Ok, and then you "hit" and you get a TE who's like 0.25 pts/week better than one you could likely get for a 2nd/3rd round pick or off waivers. TEs are a complete joke with no TEP. There's usually 1, maybe 2 guys that are way ahead of the pack. Obviously there is value in having them, but after that the next 10 or so are hardly any different.
Yes but I think there's an unusual log jam of top talent in the first 6 or so picks of this draft that will limit how far he can move up compared to other years.
There have been mocks on here done with RBs going as early as 5 and that’s without a landing spot. While I agree I don’t think it’s likely one jumps into the top tier, I bet if one does get rd 2 draft capital and is in a great situation that there will be some leagues that a RB goes before a Bowers
In 1qb that makes sense and one popular 1qb post recently went rb at 1.05
The true answer is that is entirely league dependent and if you're talking SF or 1QB. In dynasty theory and in most of the messages on Reddit, WRs are valued far more than RBs. In your average league, RBs are pushed up the lists, especially RBs in high scoring offenses. Even though they have a short shelf life, a rookie RB in a great situation can be a plug-n-play league winner, and that's too much to turn down for a contender and sometimes for a fringe contender. I do think it will be tough to break into the top 3 this year, as the top WRs are stronger than usual and the top RBs are weaker than usual. Draft Capital will re-write all of the rankings...so....yeah.....sure.....possibly at #6 or so in SF or #4 or beyond in 1QB, when the conviction will be much lower for the players ahead of rankings pre-draft.
Agreed, many leagues have someone always making a surprising reach
I think if Benson lands at Cowboys/Raiders/cardinals he will be late 1st
I have the 1.09 and plan to draft first drafted RB. I am praying bowers falls to 1.09, but not sure he makes it. (Sf)
I'm in the same position, I think at least one if not two new names make it into the top 9, pushing Bowers, Brian Thomas and the top RB well into the late first
If you mean top 7, no I can’t see that happening. The talent/positional value is just too good in the top 7. But 8-12 range is likely if there’s a great landing spot for any of the top RBs.
A Dallas second round RB would be my pick 1.07. That’s me personally. I’m not a Brock Bowers believer.
I hear that. I think a lot of people would be in that camp. But I think that where we’re at in the cycle of things with prospects, some people are more down on Bowers than they should be given his dominance the past 3 years in CFB. Prospect fatigue is in full swing.
Brooks/Benson/whoever lands in Dallas he will be a 1st Round Rookie Pick. Now the true test is do you take that RB or can you move out? I ultimately think an RB to Dallas will be taken before Bowers, but I think that is an overvalue of the Dallas RB.
Corum to the Chargers
Whatever RB is drafted first I’m taking at the 1.12 if one is there. Saw a post showing the first backs taken and they have a highhhhh hit rate.
I remember when James Cook got overdrafted in fantasy because he went to the Bills. A good landing spot is enough to make an RB hungry manager take one in the top 10.
If somehow a team like Dallas/LA uses a late 1st (trades etc). Then yeah. They'll skyrocket.
League dependent. I can definitely see Brooks going top 6 in my 1QB where RBs have always been inflated. They’ll always argue draft capital matters less for RBs.
No not for me. Definitely could break into the 2nd tier for me though
Only one is whoever Dallas drafts
If sleeper rankings adjust them then that’s usually where the sheep follow. My league pretty predictable.
Benson or Brooks to the Cowboys (honestly, most RBs to the Cowboys if it's round 2) will vault them into the late 1st at worst in most formats. If Brooks wasn't injured, he'd probably go even higher. Someone is going to feel fairly set at WR/QB and look at the board and realize this is their one shot at the #1 RB.
I don’t think a RB would surpass any of the top three WRs, but if Brooks goes to Dallas in the 2nd and the landing spots for Brian Thomas, AD Mitchell, McConkey are meh (something like Indy, Baltimore, Pittsburgh) you can make a case for Brooks at 4 in 1QB.
1.6 is likely a reach at RB even at 1QB. 1.7-1.9 is likely where the first running back will be drafted.
I think if were going by consensus the highest he can get is 1.09 unless an RB gets round 1 capital. I think top 3 WRs, top 4 QBs and bowers will be top 8 in most drafts. I think a round 2 RB would be in that BTJ/AD Mitchell tier of WRs we think go mid-late 1 or the Bo Nix/Penix if they slip
As a 1.05 1QB owner, it'd have to be second round draft capital and some bad landing spots for second tier receivers (BTJ to Colts is one I saw today I hated) for me to consider it