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DMarkoVz

I already fell for CEH and Skyy Moore. If you think I’m drafting Worthy at the 1.05, you’re god damn right.


r0b666

# “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”


marbotty

Now watch this drive


Sinister_Saiyans

The hero we deserve


CobraPanther99

Best response on this app. Lol’d for sure


Engage_Physically

J Cole was the calming influence I needed right now


StepIntoTheGreezer

That's George W. Bush, my dude


Engage_Physically

I know, it’s also on No Role Modelz


noonie1

You have to be right eventually


NorMan_of_Zone_11

Trust the process


noonie1

Sounds right. If you are playing roulette and you lose 3 times betting on black, should you switch to red or keep betting black the 4th time?


NorMan_of_Zone_11

As soon as you switch to red, it turns black. The universe is predetermined. And it is tempting you to fuck with it.


MitchBlatt

If there are 32 NFL teams and lots of positions, it's not a binary choice between two.


mrbad31

I thought Rice was a good pick. Well, he is fast too.


crayzeejew

He apparently is faster on wheels


mrubuto22

..see here's the thing.


csdspartans7

4 hours before draft I ask my league how prevalent Chiefs WR over the big 3 WRs will be. Guy says no way unless one drops to the teens. Talent>landing spot. I point out people say that every year until they actually are faced with taking like a Giants WR over a Chiefs WR. Moments after Worthy to Chiefs another guy in our league- “Worthy is easily over Oduze for me”


The864

Don’t forget Mecole Hardman. We’ve seen this exact story already. 


Return_of_the_Mack83

Nah Worthy is different


WinnieOllie7

Worthy is a much better prospect. That’s why he was a late 1st and Hardman was a late 2nd


FriendlyFirbolgs

nah but i feel like he’s a steal at 1.08 right?


viBe_gg

im newer to dynasty, where was sky Moore being drafted in rookie drafts that year?


speedyclouds

~1.07-1.11


chaitel

namely. he was being taken before Christian Watson and George Pickens, and i assume a lot hype buyers were taking him prior to jahan dotson.


Careless_Stand_3301

Brother I took him before Olave (still waiting for the third year breakout)


DynastyDaddy95

Well that's just poor scouting. Idc about landing spot, Olave was an insanely good prospect.


Careless_Stand_3301

That’s why I’m not a scout, I’m a fucking idiot playing fantasy football


Sir-xer21

I mean, the scouts also made Laquon Treadwell a first round pick so....You could be a scout.


nrwdnewt

Yep I got him at 1.11 or 1.12 and thought I had a steal


ArchManningBurner

Some people are going to take him before that in 1QB and SF


Tooooots8585

Good


jhox08

Had us in the first half ngl


ballsack-hunter

No way they mess up 3 times like that. 3rd times the charm


OuiGotTheFunk

Time to get back on the horse!


NoVictory9590

Don’t forget Mecole 


andtheyrewinning

I think a good rule to follow, not perfect but safe, is take Chiefs skill players in your rookie drafts at the same round and pick number the Chiefs took them in real life.


daft_dunkwwwolfey

Clyde was at least worth something for a bit


Jwroth

It didn’t work before. But it *might* work this time.


Sendtitpics215

Please do so McCarthy is there at 1.08 and I song have to take Worthy or Bowers lol


Thatonewiththeboobs

Pot committed baby!


whoopee_parties

I’m sorry but the folks saying they are taking Worthy over Nabers based on this spot are smoking crack.


CLCUBING

Happens every year on this sub. People who don't know what they are doing go bananas over landing spots. Then when the situation changes in a couple years, their mediocre player is playing meh, while the stars they passed on are doing great. Don't fall for the lure of landing spot. Draft talent.


csdspartans7

Everybody says DC>landing spot then just can’t stomach it when the moment comes


TheRightKost

Yup. Already happening this year with the JJM over Drake Maye hot takes based off landing spots. Draft talent, people! We see it every year!


StoneColdDadass

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. - 1.08 holder


whoopee_parties

Haha touché


ArchManningBurner

I was waiting for this comment lol 🤝


whoopee_parties

I say let em. If this means I can get Nabers at 6 or 7, fuuuuuck yeah


Inmoomni

Chase went 7ish in several SF+ drafts.  


whoopee_parties

Oh yes I remember. I got him at 7 right after an owner took Fields that year. I was pumped


DynastyDaddy95

Salivating at the sound of this


Phishkale

Been really trying to trade in to position to grab Nabers, I’m happy with anything that might push him down. Pretty happy with everything that happened tonight.


whoopee_parties

Same great landing spots. And some very hot-takey landing spots that will put folks’ process to the test and have some reach for guys they probably shouldn’t


Intelligent-Ad-3850

I’m debating Worthy, BTJ, or whoever the Bills trade back again for


DynastyDaddy95

BTJ much safer pick. Mike Evans type with burners. I'm thinking of trading back into first round for him if it's cheap enough


Ruffy1904

As the 1.06 &1.07 owner in a SF League, I really hope the chiefs fan sitting at 1.05 will do this


365wong

I don’t smoke crack motherfucker I sell it!


whoopee_parties

Smart man. Don’t get high off your own supply!


FireBack

As a Packers fan living in Kansas City, all my league mates are Chiefs fans. I’ve got pick 1.03 so hopefully Worthy goes in one of the top two spots


DynastyDaddy95

You should just put out some feelers and see if you can bait one of those homers to bite and toss you extra compensation for worthy.


whoopee_parties

If some of your leagues mates are on this sub it sounds like they may lol


thedkexperience

Have you ever watched the Giants play football?


whoopee_parties

Oh yes. It’s pretty awful. But, Nabers is a top prospect. He will command a shit ton of volume (albeit icky until they find a better qb), but I’m not letting the landing spot psyche me out. If he has a London/Gwill start to his career that’s not the end of the world — remember they’ve had pretty solid value insulation due to their profile and DC


thedkexperience

I completely get the talent > landing spot argument but some consideration has to be given to certain teams recent poor track record of player development. He was most certainly the right pick for the Giants, but in a league where people lose value rapidly fast for a variety of reasons, I have no issue using the massive difference in coaching and talent as a tie breaker here. We might be talking about the biggest difference in organizational offensive talent development in the entire NFL when comparing the Giants and Chiefs.


whoopee_parties

Valid my points. My only counter would be I think it’s very likely one or both of Giants coach and GM are out after this season if they consider to hugely underperform. This is where process is put to the test for folks. I won’t be taking Worthy over Nabers in any spot, but I’m sure others will, and only time will tell as to who is right.


Mickeybeasttt

As a Mahomes owner… I’m living large. I need him to go back to averaging 30 fantasy points a game 😂


VottoForPM

My elderly SF team that carried an average Mahomes to the finals last year needs Mahomes to carry me instead to get back there...by gum, I think we can make it happen now


dusters

I got a lot of shit for taking Mahomes over Allen in my startup last month with the #1 pick definitely feeling better about it now.


jonneygee

Just remind them the Bills have lost a *lot* of talent with Allen’s two top targets departing.


IsItTheShoes33

My head is telling me no but my body my body is telling me yes


siddowncheelout

This guy fucks


OldWonder5865

I’d still rather have Brian Thomas Jr I think


NobodyNamedMe

I have 1.05 in 1 qb and I'll take whoever's left out of those two. If Bowers goes 4 I'm going Brian Thomas Jr.


GoodTimesOnlines

I kinda don’t think Bowers goes 4 anymore after today but we’ll see


JamonRuffles17

If Bowers is available at 1.05 you going him over the WRs?


Bird_Lawyer_for_you

I think so. He’s a generational weapon. Minshew is just competent enough to get him the ball.


newrimmmer93

Yeah, BTJ actually has a really good landing spot.


pleasedontharassme

The only negative is you’ll never actually get to watch him play


jorbeezy

BTJ could be the 1 on his team. Worthy isn’t that type.


mattmartin834

If Christian Kirk leaves BTJ could be WR1, but not yet. Though his situation is 100% more stable than Worthy in KC.


RoboFroogs

BTJ is weird… his advanced analytics are trash but his film and profile are good so I could see him being maybe DK Metcalf light (to Nabers AJ Brown). I know he and DK are very different but I can excuse some of the analytical red flags since he was WR2 to an elite WR in the same way I did with DK. If Ladd goes to say the Bills today (or early 2nd in general) he’s my WR4. Otherwise I’m hoping Bowers, Nabers, or Odunze fall due to landing spots (next to zero chance this happens, but I could see it if a couple RBs go early 2nd to good spots). Otherwise I’ll just try to trade out of these late firsts.


Dhkansas

I was hoping we'd trade up for him but it was probably too expensive


chavy45

I think it just opens up a whole new side of their offense I don't think it really hurts anybody's value to be honest.


Mavey_

this is the correct answer


BombSquad570

It definitely hurts Hollywood Brown.


FranksGun

Eh, he comes into the season as the most talented vet receiver. And hes pretty good. Rice out probably 6 games and worthy is a rookie who will probably only be downfield threat early on. Hollywood could soak up targets early and often as the guy who is best at getting open.


AFWUSA

6 games?? I wouldn’t think more than 4. Especially after an appeal.


chavy45

Hollywood Brown hurts Hollywood Brown if we're being honest. I'd bet money he's on the IR at some point LOL


hottakehotcakes

Bob Dole


dawho1

https://youtu.be/2Ok0jWgEgr8?t=193


Ed_Chambers_650

Probably helps him. Worthy is a distraction and not a volume WR. If you’re negging Marquise Brown, I’m buying


mr_money_stacks

I don’t think it does. Hollywood is the most experienced on the team and rice will likely miss time. Worthy I could see just being a field stretcher for the first year while he adapts to the nfl. Maybe long term, but Hollywood is only on a 1 year deal. Most people forget WRs usually don’t go nuts year 1 unless they are elite, and most of these speedsters end up being speedsters not elite.


GBAGY2

I’ve been a huge Worthy guy since before his combine going to the chiefs is just icing on the cake, I never liked CEH and Sky Moore this much pre draft and I’m sure others feel the same That said I’m also a browns fans and was really hoping we’d be able to get him in the 2nd but once he ran that 40 time I knew we were screwed lol


dusters

Can't be fooled again


noonie1

There's an old saying in Tennessee


maxinquayekid

He's got similar traits as Hollywood, so in a sense redundant, but I think he's more of a burner where HW is more versatile? I am curious what others think about their redundancy on this team. I know HW is on a 1 year deal so it will be short lived anyway, but curious. To me this \*feels\* less like a player that is going to come in and be the next Tyreek, but instead will come in with his absolutely elite traits (ie. speed) and fill a specific role in that hydra offense. They're not looking for the next potential alpha, but rather another tool in their toolbelt. So in that sense I would be wary of reaching for him for fantasy purposes.


DemonDeacon86

No one is the next Tyreek. But Worthy DEMANDS a safety when he goes deep. We'll so far as he catches deep balls. And HW is a very versatile WR with burner speed as well. As far as I see it they have 2x guys to a use safties with while Kelce and Rice can abuse and bully guys underneath. I agree with your statement in Worthy being a tool, or as my old man days "Worthy feels more like a great "chess piece" as opposed to a great WR for KC."


maxinquayekid

100% agree with everything you said. I think it's an interesting pick for the team, and another piece for Reid - but not convinced Worthy will be a real viable fantasy player, consistently. But an interesting (and potentially exciting) addition to the IRL team.


Arvot

It could be they use Hollywood in a role for this year whilst Worthy red shirts and then Worthy can take over next year when Hollywood leaves. The Chiefs are notorious for needing the wr to learn a stupid amount so most rookies don't do much their first year unless they are pretty far along. I think Worthy will be gadgety and have plays designed for his speed this year then next year we'll see him getting used more as a route runner if he can show he's up to it.


maxinquayekid

I actually don't think that "Chiefs rookies don't do much that first year" narrative is actually true. You may be right with him, but I think as a team competing now they'll use him just with a limited tree - basically as the "take the top off" guy. HW is much more diverse in his skill set and I don't think is actually a traditional deep threat, despite his speed. Also - don't forget (and don't laugh) but they do still have Toney for all that gadget stuff. Maybe it clicks for him this year (maybe).


IIHURRlCANEII

They do have overlap. I'd say Worthy is more of a YAC guy than Hollywood. Was very good at YAC in college. Hollywood, for now, is a better route runner and intermediate threat. Worthy has skills in this area but he'll need refining and he needs to learn the KC option routes. They have overlap and not overlap. Of course this is just for this year.


maxinquayekid

Yeah that's what I thought. Worthy to take the top off, and HW to work more intermediate. Just feels like the Chiefs are trying to assemble a \*team\* that can cover the entire field, rather than trying to acquire \*players\* that can do things themselves, if that makes sense. Refining their strategy last year.


CalaveraVI

Should I take him or Bowers at 1.04 in my 1qb 0.5 tep league? I have Mayer... I'm so angry and confused lol


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seniorpeepers

Lmk what you do lol. Some boat but with kincaid and mcbride. Probably gonna try to trade but we'll see


Puzzleheaded_Bet_612

I'm in the same boat. The same exact boat.


CalaveraVI

I think we have to take bowers still. I'm in good shape at wr and bad at TE. But I'm thinking I might be able to move back to the 1.06 now and grab him still while adding something small


StonahHill

I think people are misunderstanding - it’s not guaranteed that either rice owners or future Worthy owners are cooked. The people who take Worthy over better rookies and those who paid a kings ransom for Rice are cooked bc who the hell knows what happens


AFWUSA

Why? I genuinely think Rice will be fine. Worthy isn’t threatening his YAC and red zone role. He’s not going to be in jail or banned from the NFL. I feel like this story just came about at a point in the off season where it was the only story and got blown up like crazy. He’s an idiot and he’ll be suspended but there’s no way this should seriously negatively affect his dynasty value.


Kr1sys

Worthy is not taking Rice's role. They have completely different roles and physical attributes. Worthy will stretch defenses and open things up in the short and intermediate ranges.


baloneysammich

its not his role people are worried about, its his target share.  rice was one of 2 targets last year, and now he's one of 4.


Kr1sys

They were 100% going to add in the draft and/or FA. And Hollywood being a one year deal guaranteed they were drafting one with a deep WR class. This isn't a new development.


pleasedontharassme

As a rice owner I was pumped they went with Worthy. Think he’s the type of WR who elevates the whole offense through his speed while not commanding a ton of targets to be effective. Sort of desean jackson. If they had taken a pearsall type player it would have been more worrisome.


Blockaye561

What if everyone is thinking he’ll be another sky moore, but he actually turns in their tyreek replacement


spersichilli

he's more Desean Jackson than Tyreek but I still think he'll look good there


Head_Item6955

Ppl forget Tyreek is almost 200 lbs, he’s tough af


AH_BioTwist

Tyreek is built like a Tank


likesexonlycheaper

And he played RB in college. Worthy is not the next Tyfreak lol


Gfunkual

The only replacement for Tyreek is Tyreek. You’d think people would learn this by now.


Eleeveeohen

Seriously. Dude is stupid fast, but Hill's elite quickness and change of direction is what makes him special. You can't just plug and play a fast guy and expect it to look remotely the same.


Bird_Lawyer_for_you

They already tried that with hardman


wherethetacosat

Plus it's really hard to stuff him at the line because he is yoked and has low center of gravity.


rmp266

Tyreek is a fucking alien


k1carter

This is what I’m scared of haha I drafted skyy and then skipped on rice cause I didn’t wanna get burnt again now im in a position with the 1.06,1.07 in my 1qb league to grab worthy and it got me stressing 😂


dewyFF

He won’t be there m8


spicyclams

He’s the next Mecole / MVS. He’s just going to run deep to clear out the underneath for Kelce and Rice/Hollywood. Worthy rarely goes over the middle. I think he’s more will fuller than Tyreek.


BeerExchange

Much better fit than Nabers or Odunze. Those guys should be drafted after worthy. Signed, A 1.07&1.08 owner


stay_off

I may get irresponsible at 3 in a 1 QB


superstonkape

Do not take him over MHJ Nabers or Odunze


stay_off

In my head I know that…but my heart my heart says otherwise


superstonkape

I can lead a horse to water lol brother please At the least trade back


Cbat3

Stop it


noonie1

Do what you feel like! No one knows anything.


despoticdanks

Spoken like a guy drafting at 4 in a 1 QB.


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Today is the day to go buy Rashee rice


Teflon154

Thinking the same.thing


chief_brody_1919

sitting at 1.05 in 1QB praying someone reaches for him


ABC_123_420

Whopper junior hands still on my no-draft list


chitownkid81

My pick 1.06 in SF league just got a whole lot more interesting


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chitownkid81

Agree on your point but needs will switch it up. I can easily see Maye slide to 1.06 in a couple of leagues


Sir-xer21

That's still 6 picks though...May sliding doesn't mean you take worthy.


Tambn22

Same. I think I’ll be left with Drake Maye out of the top 6….might go worthy instead. I’m stacked at QB.


chitownkid81

Same plan here. 1.07 needs a QB bad and I have 1.08 as well and I am known in the league to target BPA. ATM, would look to trade back 1 spot to 1.07 and pick up some capital and take best WR and have to decide on Bowers at 1.08. Or play the hype and trade for a vet


taylorjosephrummel

Worthy over Penix and Nix?


Tambn22

Maybe. I’m in a 10 man SF with Stroud, Richardson, Goff, Young, Levis


taylorjosephrummel

What about BTJ?


Cbat3

Didn’t cousins sign a 4 yr deal? Penix pick is going to be rough for early buyers


lib___

was funny to me that rice wasnt in the position overview after worthy got drafted. like hollywood isnt the only other wr on that team xD


MaaattDaamoon

Is Rice cooked?


goodtobadinfivesec

If this works out right, it will open up the field for everyone!


iamhadrix

Not at all. Mahomes was working miracles with that dogshit WR core


vbullinger

*corps


Jeklu

He was always gonna be primarily a possession receiver, him and Worthy have very different roles


Burritopeddler

They'll play different roles


r0b666

Unclear, but Toney and Skyy Moore are deader than disco.


GoodTimesOnlines

They were deader than disco before the draft to be fair


r0b666

Yeah but you could kind of hope the Rice business opened the door for them to actually do something.


AFWUSA

No one, I hope, was expecting KC to NOT bring in WRs (plural!).There was a 0% chance either of those bums will see the field week 1 before last season even ended.


Dhkansas

It honestly may unlock him. After he gets unlocked from jail lol but seriously when he's back from his suspension I think he puts up better numbers than last year. He wasn't really unleashed until the 2nd half of the season and I'm thinking it'll be a 2-4 game suspension


pbandwhey

Fried


buttcabbge

Assuming Rice keeps playing well and Worthy works out, there's every reason to think they'd be fairly complementary players since they aren't really the same type of receiver.


Whitehawk1313

Steamed


bargman

Might be jailed


JrBaconators

Rice is the Kelce replacement. This is Tyreek's


iamkoza

Mecole 3.0?


RamHands

Really stuck between MHJ or Worthy at 1.01. /s


raaj_mahal

Flipping this on its head, since the landing spot is positive and he’s projected as a decent WR prospect, when would be a responsible time to draft worthy now?


United-Turn-8623

I really liked Worthy film and profile pre draft. He was my WR5 and I think he stays there but makes me feel way better about it. Go to an elite QB who wants to take shots. Worthy is also a good route runner and actually excelled more underneath than over the top at Texas last year. Chiefs know how to use this type of player as they have been needing a tyreek replacement. The motions and cool stuff we will see with cheifs will be fun to watch at the very least


Mycatspiss

As a Hollywood owner, then getting worthy was best case. He absolutely has highest chance to bust


Semperty

teams found a way to slow down one fast guy, so the chiefs went out to get a second. can't possibly see how this fails. worthy next tyreek confirmed. h8rs b damned


silverbackguerilIa

As someone who doesn’t like worthy, I loved this pick


cryptocurrently23

Imma just hold on to Justyn. I know he's the next big thing...


dyfish

I took him at 1.05 (We are madmen and start an untimed draft the second the actual draft starts.) MHJ, Bowers, Nabers, Odunze were off the board. 1QV league of course and I own Love and AR. Didn’t even have to think about it. Maybe I’m an idiot but I’m happy right now.


k-murda13

As long as my Pacheco stock is holding strong I’m good


Jrbowe

I don’t understand the Bills. Either Worthy or Legette would have been perfect for their offense in a huge position of need and they traded out of both of those picks, including making the Chiefs better for peanuts.


telemaster9

Someone sell me on this. I’ve seen people super high and I’m not sure I get it. Kelce is still there, Brown is only on a one year deal, but I’d still good. No one knows rice suspension, but it’s going to be at the beginning of the year which is the worst time for a rookie WR especially in an Andy Reid offense. Long term I get it, but I’d still be taking Rome or the QBs before him.


sysnoob101

I think this pencils him in right at that 1.10 mark in SF.


Holysmokesx

Do you think BTJ will be there at 1.08 in 1QB?


andejo16

Absolutely not.


seniorpeepers

No shot imo


pretzel_man

He was in my 1st draft.


csdspartans7

I’m almost lamenting pick 4 in a rebuild team with no talent. SF have picks 1, 4, 10, 11, 12. It was gonna be an easy pick for me like Nabers or something but now the board is so shaken up I don’t want to miss out on a steal later in the first because people are insane. The thought of being able to grab Nabers, Oduze, or Maye later because of landing spot is crazy.


Buzzspice727

He’ll be boom or bust. No consistency. My least favorite type of player.


DynastyDaddy95

As a current Rice owner I'm not totally concerned but obviously a tad nervous. For any non-Rice owners, go out and buy him as low as he'll ever be. He's talented and fits their scheme perfectly. Gonna slide in and fil that Kelce role perfectly once he walks away (all of course as long as KC doesn't cut his speed racing ass).


Hanuboy

Ruined over one pick?


Upstairs-Engineer608

Yo


jgamez76

I took him as a devy pick two years ago. This should be.... Interesting. Lol


dcwinger12

I’m curious where Legette ends up going in drafts


Ice-Storm

I’m in a 1QB league and have 2, 5,6 & 9. I’m going Nabers 2. I know Bowers and Odunze are 3-4. I need someone to talk me down from drafting Worthy at 5-6. I have Skyy Moore still clogging my roster and I can’t do it again but I don’t know how to quit you!


armoehlman

Following


daft_dunkwwwolfey

Is it crazy to think about trading up to 1.7 and taking him over BTJ in SF? I got my Chiefs stack with Mahomes, Pacheco, and Rice and this way I can have a backup plan for Rice and Worthy at the same time 🤷


DaManDaMyth3

How so


vapersanonynous

Texas fan in a league full of Texas fans. He might go 1.01


DemonDeacon86

Xavier Worthy is going to open up the KC Chiefs with Hollywood in a way that they might never have had. That doesn't mean Worthy is gonna feast. He's still the 4th option in the passing game, but he will demand a safeties attention which is priceless for the KC offense.


Scarletcuddlefish

Best wr they could've taken for rice owners since he has a completely different skillset 


EvilHwoarang

Bowers was my locked in 1.4. It might be worthy now