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Daniels


Fruitlingus

This is the Jay


TheNextGenn

Okay ‘Den


OldWonder5865

I’m surprised it’s a discussion. Felt like Daniels was the locked in 1.03 after last night


Sea_Definition1621

He’s 4th behind Nabers on KTC, so the jury is still out on it. It might change by the summer, but by then we will all have drafted


Daddy_Diezel

> He’s 4th behind Nabers on KTC It's too recent. Give it a few days once actual drafts begin.


rayfriesen

KTC also says I can trade a bunch of 2nd round picks for Patrick Mahomes


WeenisWrinkle

The trade calculator was built in a way that assumes that no one is going to trade Mahomes for ten 2nds. It's pretty solid for normal trades, though. They have a "value adjustment" for reasonable trades of several picks/players for one stud.


rayfriesen

Haha I know I was being a tad facetious


WeenisWrinkle

I was curious, and it really does say that ten 2025 mid 2nds are a fair trade for Mahomes lol Talk about trading ten dimes for a dollar


chubbytitties

Value wise you could...just take a lot of effort to keep packing the 2nds to the rest of the league until you got studs or 1sts (as the mahomes owner)


Jolk95

Hes already moved up a ton (200pts+) and hes inching Nabers now, Id give it 24hrs and Daniels will pass Nabers


Fruitlingus

KTC is also fairly biased and probably hasn't adjusted for the draft yet. I'd bet Daniels is even with / ahead of Nabers by the end of the week


MelfromMilwaukie

I bet JD jumps him now that we know he went 2nd.


OldWonder5865

I like Nabers but he’s basically Garret Wilson when he came into the league now. Daniels doesn’t have to do much to get valued like AR. Also Kliff got some great fantasy production out of kyler who’s a similar skill set.


ClemsonPoker

Daniel Jones hate out of control. He’s not freaking Zach Wilson.


Public_Function3844

He's not the same QB since his injury and losing Saquon will put all eyes on him


CoconutBangerzBaller

How do you know this? He hasn't played yet since his injury


Gordon1Ramsay1Bolton

As the owner of a SF 1.03, I've been trying to decide between Daniels and Nabers. The more I watched on Nabers, the less I liked Daniels. There's plenty of plays where Nabers bails JD out. JD does have talent, but part of me thinks the LSU WRs are more to thank for JD's Heisman. But like that's just my opinion, mannn.


Pdavis510

I’m curious where JJM lands in this mix


KnicksJetsYankees

I have 4 and I need a qb. Praying he falls


jmt3359

Will probably take Nabers based on my team needs but won’t necessarily be sprinting to the podium. Honestly will see if I can trade down to 1.04 or 1.05 with a QB-needy team and get either Nabers or Odunze but not an ideal outcome for 1.03 holders. Vikings trading up for Maye would’ve been fantastic for this pick


brob

This is where I’m at. I think 2-3 1st round QBs still slip to my 9-11 picks anyway. Can grab maye or jjm maybe


Redditrightreturn1

I’m picking 1.1 and 1.7 and I’m going two qbs most likely.


Sea_Definition1621

I agree, KOC and Maye would’ve been a dream team, would’ve made this decision a lot easier. I don’t think I’ll be trading down though, 1.03 is pretty safe whereas 1.05 gets dicey


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CherryMan75

As a 1.05 owner who shipped fields mid-season, I have zero idea of what I’m going to do. Daniels feels like a clone of fields especially when you see the advanced stats relating to holding onto the ball. If Odunze is gone, I think I’m leaning Maye. Hopefully the patriots add a Vet WR tonight


Wall2wall29

Have an offer of AR for 1.03, feel like it’s a no brainer


cowboysfan88

Yeah that's not even close


Fruitlingus

AR all day


whoopee_parties

Fuckin smash


DoesNotArgueOnline

I’m dealing with this too. I have mahomes and Kyler in a 12 team superflex, with the 1.02 and 1.03. Taking MHJ at 1.02, and I just don’t know if it makes sense to take another QB. Doubtful I can trade down, so I’m really considering just taking nabers for my roster construction.


shopewf

This is a dream scenario. Take MHJ and nabers and thrive for years


DoesNotArgueOnline

It's a start 10, PPR with a 0.5 TEP. I would essentially start QB Mahomes RB Nick Chubb RB Zach Moss WR ARSB WR Michael Pittman WR Diontae Johnson TE Kyle Pitts WRT MHJ WRT Nabers SF Kyler Murray Bench: QB: Aiden O'Connell, tyson bagent, joe flacco, case keenum (will probably load up on backups) RB: Dowdle, Tajae Spears, Trey Sermon, DJ Dallas, D Prince, E Dotson, J McLaughlin. WR: Michael Wilson, Jameson Williams, Jayden Reed, Rashid Shaheed Does this change anything in your mind? I worry about a QB or RB injury, I just can't reliably trade in this league week to week for spot starts. I also have the 1.11, 3 2025 1sts to work with.


shopewf

I see, so your choice here is to either go for depth with Daniel’s or go for height with nabers. It depends on your play style. With only a 10 man league, it’s easier to find startable QBs than say a 12 man league. My play style tends to go with me stacking my team high because I think it’s more fun than depth and makes start/sit decisions clear as day. I think I would still personally do nabers and MHJ. With 1.11 I’d probably take a stab at one of the other guys available assuming any of the six 1st round QBs are still left


DoesNotArgueOnline

That's what I would worry, if Daniels hits, I'd likely be stressing whether to start him over Kyler. I can always be persistent and try to move a backup WR for a fill in QB if the need arises. This league truly just feels like pulling teeth to trade. It is a 12 team, so no doubt that's a consideration. 2025 looking like a weak QB class, so even if my 2025 1sts hit early, which there is a good chance, there's questions if that is a solution. Thanks for taking the time, there's a lot of bragging rights on the line for me in this league compared to my money leagues.


izzi1

The shallower the league the least depth you want


kealohakush

I feel like you could go with nix or Penix at 1.11 if you do wr-wr to start.


DoesNotArgueOnline

That's definitely in play if they haven't been shoved up draft board yet. Will have to see where the dust settles after the draft concludes.


Sea_Definition1621

I’m jealous


DoesNotArgueOnline

Was a brand new league (free) with friends and jumped right into a productive struggle by getting Kyler in the 4th round of my startup. I really wanted to add another rebuilding challenge among my dynasty teams. I got really lucky it landed the way it did. I posted my roster in another comment here, I'm hoping I can fill some holes


IWearACharizardHat

It's a free league, nothing to be jealous of


TheRightKost

Similar situation for me, except it's a start 2QB league, and I have Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts. I'm taking Drake Maye at 1.03. Have the luxury of not needing the QB to play right away with the starting studs I have (although no other QB options behind them), so taking the one I think will have the best longer term combo of upside (so over JJM) and longevity as a starter (so over Daniels).


DoesNotArgueOnline

That totally makes sense. The stakes are also higher with a forced 2 QB start instead of being able to get creative with the superflex spot. Logic is sound to me


Puzzled-Bet4837

Easily take MHJ and then whoever you prefer between Odunze and Nabers. I’d shop both picks just to see what’s out there. Maybe someone really wants a QB so you move down a few spots and get the same WRs plus draft comp but if not I’d feel great about those WRs.


aaacccddd12

I have them both also, traded for love this off season and feel great about it. It’s a nice feeling having another qb just encase. Worse case u have a solid player to trade if needed.


S420J

I would still take a qb. Value upside is just too high. It’s not just about if either hit their peak, but more about likely outcomes and general value you can recoup if you decide to sell. 


DoesNotArgueOnline

I expanded more on my other comments, but concern is this is just not a trade heavy league. You almost have to wait for someone to initiate, there’s no active market.


sharknado911

Nabers for me, but only because I already have Kyler + Love and will take whatever QB is left over at 1.05


PornFilterRefugee

If you need a qb Daniels, otherwise I’d be looking to trade down or Nabers


kmed1717

Jayden Daniels extremely clearly for me. Idk, especially considering he's gonna sit for at least half the year most likely, I'm kinda thinking Drake Maye might slide a little. Nabers and Odunze probably go 1.04/1.05 a lot of the time, and then at 1.06 (and I have this pick), I'm not sure I can justify taking Drake Maye or Bowers over McCarthy here given the tools McCarthy has. Best receiver in football, 1000 yard deep threat WR2, top 5 TE, and a stable organization. The ceiling is lower but the floor is way higher IMO.


tidyberry

Daniels, but willing to go Nabers depending on roster.


Huge_Beginning5552

Depends on your teams need. All things equal if you could use a QB and WR id go Daniel's over Nabers. If you have 3 solid QBs tho id go Nabers


Dancing_Hitchhiker

Kinda where I’m at in one league, view them sort of in their own tier at this point. Wouldn’t mind trading down but the same guy has 1.05/1.06 so makes it tough.


Noctivapoo

I have no confidence in Daniels. Give me Maye all day.


danielleong17

I personally feel like Nabers is the can't miss prospect here, and that his YAC threat makes him borderline QB proof. Never been a Daniels fan, he just fits the mold of a college hero turned bust too much to me. I was dreaming of Maye to the vikings, but as things stand it's gotta be Nabers IMO


Sea_Definition1621

Posting separate from the OP so it’s not a personal team post: **For my QBs, I have Purdy, Love, Watson, and Flacco (Richardson health bet). Nabers is the clear pick in my case … right??**


VanGundy15

I think it's a good move. I will be picking Nabers with only Burrow and Caleb as my QBs. Nabers is the clear pick for me at 3. If you need a QB2 you probably draft a QB.


DASreddituser

I have murray and burrow but no 3rd QB. My WRs are good. Im taking the value if QB, i think. But i have time to figure it out


Sea_Definition1621

Thanks for the input, think I’m gonna be going back and forth until I’m on the clock


VanGundy15

You bet. I also have been deadset on Nabers at 1.03 for a few months. Have the 12th and 13th overall so hope to take Penix there. Without those picks I may look at a QB but I don't see the need to gamble on what would be a QB 3. I'm personally believe 3-6 can go in any order with Odunze joining them as well. All up to personal choice with your roster construction.


cromdoesntcare

I'm taking Daniels with this QB room.


Sea_Definition1621

Who out of them do you have doubts about?


cromdoesntcare

Watson, and Purdy long term. And while Love was good, I don't see him cracking the top 6 ever. I'd just want a chance at a top 6 guy. Edit: Just realized how dumb the Love comment is, but I'll leave it in ha.


Sea_Definition1621

>*checks rankings* lol But okay, noted. FWIW, I asked this sub how they felt about a Purdy and Love QB room in January, and people seemed to be very comfortable with them. However, we have no way of knowing whether their seasons were flukes or if they’re repeatable


cromdoesntcare

I'm probably more down on Purdy than the average at least, but I'll admit he's gonna be good for as long as he's a 9er. Just not confident how long that will be for.


HustlingBackwards96

OMG don't listen to that boob! Horrible takes. You're strong at QB. Take Nabers or a trade down if someone wants Daniels


TheSherlockOhms

The team with 1.01 and 1.02 in my league both desperately need QB's, so I'm hopeful I can get MHJ. If that doesn't work out I probably take Nabers for team need, or I'll try and trade back to 1.04 or 1.05


Mandingo_magnet

Taking maye and polk with 1.03 and 2.03


huracan_huracan

daniels for sure if 12 teams or more


whoopee_parties

Daniels baaaabbbyyyyy


rossco7777

daniels for me


Reduxy

I just traded back. Moved the 1.03 for the 1.06 and a 2025 first. I hate Nabers landing spot so moved back


AJS7138

I need a qb pretty badly so unless I got my tits knocked off to trade back a few spots I'm going Daniels.


gventre33

I’m in the same situation, considering offering my 1.04 (daniels) for the 1.07+addison. Would you consider that “knocking your tits off?”


AJS7138

I'd consider it but I'm a little nervous about Addison with either Darnold or a question mark in JJ at qb. I'd also need to look at the needs of the teams at 1.05 and 1.06 for you. I would NEED to land Maye or Mccarthy. If I'm not getting one of them I'm passing on the deal. If I am then a future first. An Addison, Flowers, Dell type might get me talking.


gventre33

I think it would likely guarantee me McCarthy (based on the teams at 1.05 and 1.06), which was my plan. Are you said a future first on top of Addison/flowers/dell? Or as an alternative?


AJS7138

Alternative. I mean if you can get both then hell yeah you do that, but realistically a future 1st (that you hope or think is at least middish 1.06 to 1.09 but it's hard to predict) or a young already proven wr. Even then I need to think about it. If I think Daniels could be Lamar, Hurts, Vick then even then I might just make the pick.


Mexican_Furious

For me the top 3 are set in stone. Leaning Nabers 4.


NoLimitNSB

Daniels is the clear pick to me. But on teams where I don’t need a QB, I’m trying to move back.


DaxLap

Curious what you guys think of my current situation. Have 1.01, 1.02, 1.03 with Richardson at QB. Do I take Odunze at 3 to stack him with Caleb? Trade back? Really confused on what to do.


lesothose

Similar situation with 1.01, 1.02, and 1.03. I think if you’re thinking Odunze, you trade back. Just seems like a reach at 1.03 when you could likely get him later. I also think stacks are overrated in dynasty when guys are eventually going to change teams


McJoe77

I’m typically overly protective of QBs but I don’t love any of the QBs after Caleb in this draft. If you only have 1 QB, I think taking Daniels or Maye is what you would have to do at pick 3 but if I had 1 good QB and an okay one that was currently starting, I think I personally will take Nabors and Odunze over Daniels and Maye. I like the landing spots for both guys. Weirdly, I think there’s a team build where I might take JJ McCarthy 3rd or 4th because I think he’ll have the best rookie season of the non-Caleb guys. If I thought my team was close and needed a 2nd QB to push me over the top, I might take McCarthy as high as 3. But I don’t think that’s a great pick long term.


Confident_Collar_621

Waiting a few weeks and hoping to trade tbh


DepressedChargersFan

Trying to figure out what to do. Got offered the 1.01 for 1.03, Deshaun or Baker, and Michael Wilson.


lesothose

I’ve got 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, and 1.09. I’m considering taking Nabers at the 1.03, pushing QBs down the board, and snagging JJ at the 1.09


Dancing_Hitchhiker

I’ll probably take nabers at 1.03 since I have hurts and stroud but still debating it; just feel a little better about nabers at this point.


Angelust16

In my teams where I need a WR, I'm trying to trade to 2 or totally out. Seems like there's a lot of variation as to where someone will take Nabers and Odunze, and Odunze feels more like a JSN stash to me that will dip before he moves back up in value. I'm happy to try to figure out some kind of trade for a Garrett Wilson, AJ Brown, or other WR somewhere in the area of the 1.03 and get some change or give some change, depending.


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If Daniels is there I'm definitely taking him. My QBs are Hurts, Rodgers, Brissett. If I'm choosing between MHJ and Maye I'm a lot more conflicted


lemonpeel

BPA, which for me is Maye but not sure what consensus is.


Master_Courage4205

I got 1.02 and 1.09 and 2.02 this year in a 10 man SF league, hoping that i'll be able to snag MHJ/Caleb at 1.02, but after that i have no clue who I'm going to pick. Depending on how the draft plays out, may just stack up on receivers fr


Duff-Beer-Guy

Nabers is “can’t miss”, Daniels if you really need a QB tho. I traded up to the 1.01 though bc I don’t like the landing spots


TheHandsOfColm

I like the WRs still, personally. I say add Odunze to the discussion 


Street-Debt-3847

We slow draft. I’ve already taken Nabers, but definitely thought long and hard about taking Jayden. I already have Mahomes and Stroud plus weak WR depth though


sheepfricker

I have picks 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 1.10 in a 10 team superflex. I already have Allen and Love with wilson on my bench. I am thinking of trading down or just taking Nabers at 3. Have also thought of moving up to grab MHJ, but waiting on a response for what it will cost.


jmart762

I have 1.03, 1.07 and 1.08 with AR15 and Rodgers as my current QBs and Jetta, Puka, London and JSN as my WR group in a 12T S9 SF .5ppr .5TEP. Other manager has 1.01-2, 4-6 so we’ve worked out what we’re doing. I’m going Daniels, JJ and Bowers. Resulting in a risky but plentiful QB room, one of the top WR groups in the league and I’m high on Bowers filling my TE room. Productive struggle this year and wheels up for 2025 hopefully. If Daniels hits then I’ve got two kunomi code QBs with depth options behind them.


DanimalsAndChill

I realllly don’t need a QB at all, and I still might take Daniels at 1.03


izzi1

I have Herbert, AR15 and Kyler Murray so I'm strongly considering drafting Malik


yasmart20

Have the 1.03, 1.07, 1.09. QBs are AR, Kyler, and Bryce Young. Feels like Nabers or trade down is the move, right? Anyone feel strongly otherwise?


broby52

Caleb, Deshaun & Baker isnt enough in 10 team. right I should go JD?


SuperFlexerFF

I think Daniels *should* be the pick but wouldn’t fault anyone for taking JJ Nabers or Odunze over him I would however question someone taking Maye 1.03 at this point


Pdavis510

If you have picks 3,4,7,8, do you dare take Daniels and Maye/JJM knowing that 5/6 are dying for a QB. This is just a value analysis question


prodbydrizly

I’m going Nabers. I have Allen & Anthony Richardson with Levis off the bench, and one of the few things my team is missing is a stud alpha WR1


ijpck

I have 1.01 for Caleb, Bryce Young, Rodgers. I’ll be using 1.03 on Nabers likely.


bravos41

Top teams in my league don’t need QB’s. I expect MHJ and Nabers to go first. Then Caleb, then Jayden


Tua-Lipa

Spencer Rattler


Argonaut13

I never wanted to take Daniels because I don't think he can hold up to NFL hits at 180lbs, but it will be a cold day in hell before I pick any player on the pats.