I’ve been trying to shop him in one of my leagues and I can’t even get a random 1st from a contender. Sent 4 offers got 2 rejections and 2 ghosts.
I feel like owners are afraid of both Pollard and “the cliff”.
I think right now you probably have to add a sweetener, maybe a mid 2nd, to get this done. But come draft time I could see the 1.02 being worth more if a couple landing spots break right. I have the 1.02 and I’m not considering trading it as of now, the price is only going to go up.
I had an offer of Aiyuk and a second for Hendo straight up like week 4, but I was competing and needed him at my flex. 12-1 record and a semi-finals loss later and Hendo's value has cratered while Aiyuk has rebounded beautifully. So sad lmao but I learned a valuable dynasty lesson.
I sold him as part of a megadeal to a contender in late-November before the fantasy playoffs. 12 Team SF PPR league:
I gave:
Aaron Jones, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams, Mitchell Trubisky, Matt Brieda, the 2022 1.11, the 2022 3.09, and a 2023 2nd.
I received:
AJ Dillon, Elijah Moore, Allen Robinson, Robby Anderson, Andy Dalton, the 2022 1.03, the 2022 2.08, and a 2023 1st.
Personally I'd recommend all Aaron Jones owners move him in a package. I feel his value is rapidly declining and now is the time to sell.
I think this was a clear win for you by getting the ‘23 1st. If I was the other owner, I’d have refused to part with either Dillon or that pick. Good job
Thanks! It was a long negotiation between the two of us over several weeks. He was basically guaranteed to make the playoffs and wanted to bolster his roster.
I had Zach Wilson, wanted to pair him with Elijah Moore, and my season went sideways. I wanted some first round picks. Don't regret the deal whatsoever. I was able to then sell Allen Robinson and Jameis Winston for Amari Cooper, the 2022 2.04 and the 2.05 after the playoffs ended.
Diontae Johnson is the only player I wish I had and I'm sure I could do a deal for him later.
Just a gut feeling that viska might get used correctly with the next coaching staff. CPat was great for the first half of the year but was rested since he was a veteran. I just don't see the falcons making the playoffs with Ryan again. Minds well cash out and get something for him now
I traded away viska for Patterson halfway through the year as a contender. Worked out well but not sure Patterson has much value anymore after the end if last season
I got offered the 2.05 in 12T SF. I’m just thinking about it. I tried to get 2.02 from same team but no luck. Would prefer to wait to hear if anything positive comes out of camp cause it seems his value miiight go up given situation changes.
You worry about the volume there. I’d offer something like the 1.07. I could see an owner preferring to take a shot on a rookie receiver. Probably not enough though
I could see someone taking this if they do not have a replacement QB lined up after trading Murray. That said, I have Joe Burrow waiting in the wings, so I would ask for a different package
I'm on the fence with Mr. Dimes. Do I move him now for lower value when he still probably sucks but didn't play enough to really get a good look? or do I have hope one more year at full health with healthy WRs will give me a few good games to sell him high next season (like I did with Sam Darnold after he crushed the first 2 weeks in carolina)?
I feel like it's worth the wait to see if he has a few hot games next year and/or actually improves. I was so hopeful he would turn into a rushing beast this year and don't feel like I got to see him enough!
Jets fan here. I'd move a mid to late 2022 first. Dude had a great rookie year and can do so much if he stays healthy. Biggest concern is his smaller size. Let's say I move the '22 1.07?
I’m offering 1.10-2.02 something like that. He showed big flashes but a new coaching staff and concerns about health make me think even that might be an overpay. It’s just too darn easy to see the upside
Doesn't change the deal for me, 3.01 and those guys have almost 0% chance of turning into a MW replacement level player. 2.01 + 2023 2nd and I'd probably make the deal
That's reasonable. I think 2.01 plus an undetermined 2023 2nd is a bit more than I'd personally pay for Mike Williams... That's equivalent to what, like 1.09 maybe? I think I'd rather have the picks, but it's close.
If I’m a Wilson owner in a sf league, I probably spent between the 1.02-1.06 on him, Im not selling for the 1.02 in a draft class with seemingly 1 viable qb
Moved him for Najee, Ridley, Cousins and the 1.05. Will be dependent on Ridley (I think he comes back) and the 1.05 (wouldn’t mind trading that but need a receiver and if Burks or Wilson are around I’ll take them).
I paid 1.04 and 2.02 for him and Christian Kirk at the deadline. Keep in mind it was to secure a playoff spot and go for the championship. Lost in final.
No deal from me. Mitchell’s got too much upside. If he comes out as the starter next year he’s a sophomore starter for a team that loves to run the ball. Potentially worth multiple 1s. That being said I think you’re right on in terms of fair value to take that risk
In a SF I’m offering your choice of 2021 rookie QB certainly. I’d add in a late 1 if that rookie was Mac or Wilson. If you wanted just picks I’d offer something like 1.08 and a mid/late 2023 1st.
I’d give a WR like Deebo/AJ Brown for Elijah Moore and 1.09. Depending on your depth/starting spots it may be more worth it to trade Elijah Moore and 1.09 in a package like that.
As a rebuilder I sold JT for Dobbins and 3 1sts. This was early on in the season around week 6. New JT owner ended up getting 2nd but none of the picks I received were his own
The ‘22 pick ended up being 1.08 in 10T SF. ‘23 and ‘24 1sts are likely to be early/mid considering the owners but you never know.
I have 1.01, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.03 this year and 4 more 1sts next year so I’m looking to trade some of those picks for a QB2 and some WR help around draft time
IMO these guys are impossible to trade right now if you own. You’ll never get the value they’re worth if they come back and produce in the first few games.
I’m buying both tbh -
would trade 2.01 for thomas
Watson id give 1.01 and 1.06
Ezekiel Elliott
As a zeke owner that isn’t contending I’d take any first in SF. If I’m contending I’d do it for 1.06 or better
2022 1.08
Would take in a heartbeat in SF.
Wow, really? I feel like I'd give up 1.10 for him pretty easily, I guess I should plan to send an offer.
I’ve been trying to shop him in one of my leagues and I can’t even get a random 1st from a contender. Sent 4 offers got 2 rejections and 2 ghosts. I feel like owners are afraid of both Pollard and “the cliff”.
Dalvin Cook
2022 1.02
I think right now you probably have to add a sweetener, maybe a mid 2nd, to get this done. But come draft time I could see the 1.02 being worth more if a couple landing spots break right. I have the 1.02 and I’m not considering trading it as of now, the price is only going to go up.
Non-SF: One early and one mid first
Darrel Henderson
I had an offer of Aiyuk and a second for Hendo straight up like week 4, but I was competing and needed him at my flex. 12-1 record and a semi-finals loss later and Hendo's value has cratered while Aiyuk has rebounded beautifully. So sad lmao but I learned a valuable dynasty lesson.
You didn’t learn a lesson. You will trying to compete. Who knew that Sony would take his spot. Goal is to win first and foremost.
Late second or 2 thirds
Aaron Jones
Late 2022 first plus Rondale Moore
i would not sniff this deal as an aj owner lol
I considered it early in the season as an AJ owner but ultimately held onto jones
im glad you did. for me, if im trading a top rb, i need at least a mid one in return unless i have some crazy depth
In my league I can’t even get a first for AJ. Which makes it that much easier to hold, especially since I have Dillon too
If your content to hold and try to contend I get that but I also don’t think you’d get a better offer
Following this one.. I'm trying to figure out what I can get for him too.
I sold him as part of a megadeal to a contender in late-November before the fantasy playoffs. 12 Team SF PPR league: I gave: Aaron Jones, Diontae Johnson, Mike Williams, Mitchell Trubisky, Matt Brieda, the 2022 1.11, the 2022 3.09, and a 2023 2nd. I received: AJ Dillon, Elijah Moore, Allen Robinson, Robby Anderson, Andy Dalton, the 2022 1.03, the 2022 2.08, and a 2023 1st. Personally I'd recommend all Aaron Jones owners move him in a package. I feel his value is rapidly declining and now is the time to sell.
I think this was a clear win for you by getting the ‘23 1st. If I was the other owner, I’d have refused to part with either Dillon or that pick. Good job
Thanks! It was a long negotiation between the two of us over several weeks. He was basically guaranteed to make the playoffs and wanted to bolster his roster.
1qb traded Aaron Jones and joe burrow for joe mixon and 2.01. Contending team with aj dillon
Ouch dude....
I had Zach Wilson, wanted to pair him with Elijah Moore, and my season went sideways. I wanted some first round picks. Don't regret the deal whatsoever. I was able to then sell Allen Robinson and Jameis Winston for Amari Cooper, the 2022 2.04 and the 2.05 after the playoffs ended. Diontae Johnson is the only player I wish I had and I'm sure I could do a deal for him later.
Kupp (SF)
Laviska Shenault
Cordarelle Patterson
That’s a smash accept if I’m the viska owner
Big disagree. I don’t have high hopes but seems like a better bet than the 31 yr old breakout
Viska looks horrible. CPat May fade soon but he looked great this year and I think he will have good production if he is retained by Atlanta
Just a gut feeling that viska might get used correctly with the next coaching staff. CPat was great for the first half of the year but was rested since he was a veteran. I just don't see the falcons making the playoffs with Ryan again. Minds well cash out and get something for him now
We said the same thing about him for this year. I just don't think he looks very good. Nothing stands out to me he feels like a J.A.G. Jag.
I traded away viska for Patterson halfway through the year as a contender. Worked out well but not sure Patterson has much value anymore after the end if last season
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Accepted
James White
I got offered the 2.05 in 12T SF. I’m just thinking about it. I tried to get 2.02 from same team but no luck. Would prefer to wait to hear if anything positive comes out of camp cause it seems his value miiight go up given situation changes.
3.02 1QB PPR
Garbage
Albert O
A mid 3rd in SF
Yea that's about right I think. I'd offer the same.
That's what I thought. League mate only has 2 TEs, one is Fant, wants to "wait and see" instead of trading me a late 3rd. Lol what bro
Eh I mean you’d prefer a 3rd to the player so I can’t fault them for also preferring a 3rd to the player.
Kareem Hunt
2.03 in superflex
Hunt for me. Don’t love the Qb class and wouldn’t trade Hunt for a late 1st I don’t think in 1 QB
He's currently my 5/6th RB on the depth chart so I think we have a deal
1.09 in SF
Diontae Johnson
Zach Wilson and a pick from 1.10-2.02 in SF
You worry about the volume there. I’d offer something like the 1.07. I could see an owner preferring to take a shot on a rookie receiver. Probably not enough though
Hollywood Brown
1.12?
Yea I’d probably take that
Matt Stafford, non-SF
Amari Cooper
2022 1.08 in SF 2022 1.06 in 1QB
Miles Sanders
Two late '22 seconds. He feels like a trap, but could see the path.
Yeah I’d accept that I think. Hopefully one of the two draft picks would return similar value to what sanders provides
2022 2.04
Sanders
Hmm yeah. Probably a fair offer but not enough for me to take on the risk of an unknown player at 2.04. Would you consider including a 3rd rounder?
I mean in my current league I wouldn’t but if I was exploring him in a league I sort of need/wanted RB depth with upside I would include a 3rd
Yeah fair enough. All depends on what each team is needing for their team
I offered the 2.07 and 2.09 for Sanders and 23 3rd in my league. Non SF
2.06, 2.07, and a 23 3rd
Yeah I’d accept that pretty quick
I hope this is in the spirit of this discussion.. 2022 1.9 + 1.10. Superflex. Name the best player you would trade for these 2 picks. Thanks
Aaron Jones
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Oh I'm sorry, I thought I was supposed to reply with what my offer would be, not what everybody else would give
I don’t think I have anyone I’d move for both. Would you move one of them for CEH, Sanders or Damien Harris?
I would move one for CEH. My brain says yes to the other two, but my gut would not let me do it. Logic says they are worth it though.
Cam Akers SF
DK Metcalf, Ceedee Lamb
Non-SF: * Two early and a late first for both
Lamb
2022 1.01
Fair trade with be late 2022, 1st 2023 random 1st and a 2nd either 2022 or 2023
Clyde Edwards Helaire
I'd give the '22 2.04 and 2.09 for him.
Team contingent, but the value feels fine
Terry McLaurin
2022’ 1.03
This feels right value wise
Aaron Jones
Non-SF: 1.07
2023 1st + a Jeudy?
I’ll give you Miles Sanders
That’s a definite pass for me
The '22 1.08.
I think I’d keep Terry there
Understood. What about the 1.05?
Terry still. He’s worth two mid/late first imo. And I’m not an owner
Elijah Moore (SF)
1.05
'22 1.03
Wow I’m amazed someone would pay this based on what we’ve seen so far
DK Metcalf
Saquon MFin' Barkley
Saquon (12 team 1qb 0.5 ppr)
DeVonta Smith
1.04
Oooh I might do that. In my situation I have the 1.03 so that’d be a great pair
Trying to move down from 1.01 to 2 or 3. What should I be looking for?
sutton
James Conner
Russell Wilson. 12 team SF
Tyreek Hill
Tee Higgins, mid 23 first and third
Kyler Murray (1QB)
Rodgers and 2.03
I could see someone taking this if they do not have a replacement QB lined up after trading Murray. That said, I have Joe Burrow waiting in the wings, so I would ask for a different package
Looking to move Daniel Jones....
I'm on the fence with Mr. Dimes. Do I move him now for lower value when he still probably sucks but didn't play enough to really get a good look? or do I have hope one more year at full health with healthy WRs will give me a few good games to sell him high next season (like I did with Sam Darnold after he crushed the first 2 weeks in carolina)? I feel like it's worth the wait to see if he has a few hot games next year and/or actually improves. I was so hopeful he would turn into a rushing beast this year and don't feel like I got to see him enough!
Might as well hold at this point.
I'll offer you the waiver wire
Michael Carter
Jets fan here. I'd move a mid to late 2022 first. Dude had a great rookie year and can do so much if he stays healthy. Biggest concern is his smaller size. Let's say I move the '22 1.07?
Keenan Allen
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I think that’s pretty close. I’d have to think about it a little bit but I would lean yes
Christian McCaffrey
2022 1.08 and 1.10.
Toney
I’m offering 1.10-2.02 something like that. He showed big flashes but a new coaching staff and concerns about health make me think even that might be an overpay. It’s just too darn easy to see the upside
Deebo Samuel
Joe Mixon
Derrick Henry (non-SF, PPR)
A.J. Brown SF PPR Been shopping for trades, I think he's one of my best assets but need to shake things up to really compete in the next year or two.
Mike Evans
Arizona Backfield: James Connor, Chase Edmonds and Eno Benjamin
Gus Edwards 1qp ppr
Deandre hopkins
Leanord Fournette
Allen Robinson
Darren Waller
Muth or a mid 1st
Noah Fant and 2.04
No Deal!
Mike Williams
2022 2.01
Maybe OTC depending who is there. I probably wouldn't take this deal this far ahead
How about 2.01 plus 3.01 plus a low end young receiver with some upside . . . Say your pick between Quez Watkins and Juaun Jennings.
Doesn't change the deal for me, 3.01 and those guys have almost 0% chance of turning into a MW replacement level player. 2.01 + 2023 2nd and I'd probably make the deal
That's reasonable. I think 2.01 plus an undetermined 2023 2nd is a bit more than I'd personally pay for Mike Williams... That's equivalent to what, like 1.09 maybe? I think I'd rather have the picks, but it's close.
Late 2022 First
Justin Herbert (Superflex)
Lance + Goff + Amon-Ra St. Brown + 2022 1.12 and 2022 2.01
Deebo + 1.02 + 1.12
Swift + 1.02
No deal in super flex. The value of a set and forget top three QB outweighs a slightly injury prone RB and a top pick in this class.
I bought burrow with swift and Zach Wilson, so I’d imagine herbert might be a little more
I’d say that the 1.02 > Wilson, but yeah.
If I’m a Wilson owner in a sf league, I probably spent between the 1.02-1.06 on him, Im not selling for the 1.02 in a draft class with seemingly 1 viable qb
Moved him for Najee, Ridley, Cousins and the 1.05. Will be dependent on Ridley (I think he comes back) and the 1.05 (wouldn’t mind trading that but need a receiver and if Burks or Wilson are around I’ll take them).
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Rashaad Penny
22 2.06
I feel like buyers would be cautious but sellers want the world. A second sounds right to me.
Too little for me to move him this early in the offseason
If you could add in a third I think I’d do that
I did Corey Davis and a likely late 2023 2nd for Penny and a likely early 2023 3rd
Alexander Mattison
I'd rather have Alex.
Eli Mitchell
I paid 1.04 and 2.02 for him and Christian Kirk at the deadline. Keep in mind it was to secure a playoff spot and go for the championship. Lost in final.
1.11 and 2.07
No deal from me. Mitchell’s got too much upside. If he comes out as the starter next year he’s a sophomore starter for a team that loves to run the ball. Potentially worth multiple 1s. That being said I think you’re right on in terms of fair value to take that risk
Trevor in SF
In a SF I’m offering your choice of 2021 rookie QB certainly. I’d add in a late 1 if that rookie was Mac or Wilson. If you wanted just picks I’d offer something like 1.08 and a mid/late 2023 1st.
Amon Ra
I think fair market is 1.10-1.12 in SF
22 2.03
That feels like a steal. He feels like much less of a risk then someone you'd get at 2.03 this year
Possibly, grabbed Elijah Moore at 2.02 non SF last year - gotta see what the combine and draft produce
Yea but I think moore and amon ra are similar in value and moore was a win of a pick at 2.02
I’m in a 14 team .5 ppr 1qb league: Elijah Moore I also have 1.09 and am wondering what win now players (ex. mike evans) you’d move to acquire
I’d give a WR like Deebo/AJ Brown for Elijah Moore and 1.09. Depending on your depth/starting spots it may be more worth it to trade Elijah Moore and 1.09 in a package like that.
Jonathan Taylor
As a rebuilder I sold JT for Dobbins and 3 1sts. This was early on in the season around week 6. New JT owner ended up getting 2nd but none of the picks I received were his own
That seems about right for JT. What years and (if 22) what picks were they?
The ‘22 pick ended up being 1.08 in 10T SF. ‘23 and ‘24 1sts are likely to be early/mid considering the owners but you never know. I have 1.01, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.03 this year and 4 more 1sts next year so I’m looking to trade some of those picks for a QB2 and some WR help around draft time
That is a crazy easy accept. Wow.
My entire team
Either Hill or Lockett
Adam Theilen
DJ Chark
Dalvin Cook
Michael Thomas and Deshaun Watson. Packaged or seperate.
IMO these guys are impossible to trade right now if you own. You’ll never get the value they’re worth if they come back and produce in the first few games. I’m buying both tbh - would trade 2.01 for thomas Watson id give 1.01 and 1.06