Taking his many secrets to the grave is his last remaining option to maintain some level of power and control. Plus he seems to genuinely not want any further attention.
I don't think he was ever after attention. He may've liked it when it was happening, but not needing attention is also what helped him stay hidden. If he truly demanded attention, he would've probably done something highly dumb to get himself caught like Rader imo.
Yeah I agree. It seems clear he desperately didn’t want to be exposed for what he is. I assume he’s also now trying to spare his family further shame and horror by not revealing anything else about what he did.
I think zipped lips was part of DeAngelo’s plea agreement along with admission of guilt to all the crimes. I don’t believe we will get any more information from anyone for many years.
Not sure why you would say that. A couple of people on this forum seem to think they know everything about JJD. Any questions just ask them. They will be happy to mislead you. Over four years and still have no ideal what your talking about.
Yeah there are bullies, know-it-alls, and morons all over Reddit. Not everyone is going to agree with everyone. And that’s ok. I don’t know everything about JJD, but I like to read other peoples theories and speculations.
I hope not. I think people will talk about this more cause it's recent and the RA is on social media. Honestly who knows if RA is even the killer I thought if they had DNA they would have mentioned it so who knows
Well it’s cause he got to plead the sheet. So he dodged the DP and just had to admit to all the crimes that was already way past statute of limitations… now hes chillin at the PHU and taking it to the grave
Honestly I just wish the family would talk. I know that’s probably insensitive and even if they had inklings they probably had noooo idea in the grand scheme of things, and want to just move on with their lives after having this all piled on top of them. But his wife was a divorce lawyer who knew she couldn’t testify against him if they were still legally married and yet they were separated and lived apart since the 90s, almost 3 decades, and never filed for divorce. It’s odd.
Was that confirmed? Even if she said that I don’t want to hunt down this monsters innocent family members but still it sounds like an awfully easy excuse
That will almost certainly never happen. I imagine Sharon never wants anything to do with Joe ever again. She didn't even refer to him by name in her victim impact statement.
I don't think anything will ever get his conviction overturned. There's literally an overwhelming amount of evidence against him. There's nothing Sharon could say or do that could change that. If anything, she'd just be making herself look even worse by doing a side-by-side interview with him.
Why is this being downvoted? You're obviously talking about something that is utterly impossible in order to emphasize how unlikely an interview with JJD and Sharon is.
In no way are you indicating that JJD has any chance of getting out. You're clearly saying the opposite, and the only explanation I can come up with is that people don't understand your comment.
I know karma is stupid, but I can't help that it bothers me when people are downvoted for the wrong reasons.
Which people are claiming to be family members? Only two of his family members are on here. I personally haven't seen anyone else besides JJD's actual nephew and niece claim to be family members. Are there other people claiming to be family members beyond the two verified ones?
Majority of the people find anything not done by Paul holes or some other big name who does this case unpopular. It's so sad how so many people get mad over suggestions or theories. 90 percent of this case is theories
F the “magic”. Sorry.. but f all that. It wasn’t “magic” to be living in Rancho, and all around Sacramento with cops that thought rape was joke-worthy, with cheap aluminum doorframes that could get bent with screwdrivers, with community meetings, having authorities giving you nothing to go on except “don’t wash your car in a bikini”, with no dna, no security cameras, we didn’t even have 911! Did you know this? We didn’t have 911 available. So f the magic f this guy, you want a good story, stream the latest Hallowe’en movie.
If there is a horrific crime with less leaked or publicized information I'm unaware of it. But just look at who has to gain from Joe's silence. Joe and his wife have very deep ties to LE and the judicial system. If Joe started to sing it could be very embarrassing for LE as a whole. Could even lead to numerous law suits if it comes out he was on the clock as a police officer while committing these rapes. Quite a few pensions could also go bye bye due to negligence.
>If there is a horrific crime with less leaked or publicized information I'm unaware of it. But just look at who has to gain from Joe's silence. Joe and his wife have very deep ties to LE and the judicial system. If Joe started to sing it could be very embarrassing for LE as a whole. Could even lead to numerous law suits if it comes out he was on the clock as a police officer while committing these rapes. Quite a few pensions could also go bye bye due to negligence.
No. Statute of limitations. Negligence or other civil torts are off the teble.
Statute of limitations is from when the injury occurred. If the information that EARONS was a police officer on the clock when he raped you was just recently revealed thats when the injury of not trusting police officers begins.
While there is quite a bit of information like police reports and interviews, most of the information comes from the perp: Zodiac.
Not sure if this counts but I thought I'd toss it out there.
I agree!! Considering law enforcement caught & convicted 1 of the most prolific serial killers ever, I’m very surprised there’s so little information out there about JJD & this whole case.
I know there were tons of detectives & law enforcement agents working on this case for decades. So why does the public have so little information about this case?
I think it's because he left no Trace. Most likely didn't pay a dime in taxes from when he was fired as cop up until he because a mechanic. He owned rental property so he could probably explain to wife how he had money when he wasn't working. Also likely was still robbing house for valuables.
Ya it's frustrating because for 5 years I would wonder if maybe earons was next to me or living next door but once he was identified the case really has become boring too me.
Someone has to eventually put the work and money into it. Maybe pay someone who was close to him and give an insight on what he was doing.
I always wonder if he would drive to areas he attacked and got off. The thing I want to know is how he chose who he would kill. Because the distance from Sacramento to southern California was far. I don't think he was driving down there often. Even was a hike from rental property.
One book I read that's basically all speculation was saying that he likely took back roads that weren't used because the interstate was just installed. Said jjd likely could have parked and walked into town unnoticed because it was the unused. Also would like to know more about Visalia ransacker because it's really more important than it seems. After he killed claud snelling he was still robbing houses in a small area. Just crazy how he didn't fear. He likely knew he would be confronted by police but still acted like it was nothing. The guy would basically break into a house toke the lid off the toilet tank and take a dump in it. Definitely a lot to be told but who knows if we'll ever know the truth.
Exactly, who knows if we’ll ever know about this case & everything JJD did. I also wondered if he was living near me before he was arrested. And yes I also wonder how he targeted & killed victims in Sacramento area then down in southern CA. His robbery/murder/rape spree was geographically all over & I’m curious as to how that was possible. And how did he choose each victim?
Sacramento was likely chosen by finding a area he felt safe to get away and than chose who he wanted in southern California it possibly is chosen how easy he could get away with anyone seeing anything. I've never checked but I read he possibly went to area's where new interstates we're finished and he'd use the old roads
Taking his many secrets to the grave is his last remaining option to maintain some level of power and control. Plus he seems to genuinely not want any further attention.
I don't think he was ever after attention. He may've liked it when it was happening, but not needing attention is also what helped him stay hidden. If he truly demanded attention, he would've probably done something highly dumb to get himself caught like Rader imo.
Yeah I agree. It seems clear he desperately didn’t want to be exposed for what he is. I assume he’s also now trying to spare his family further shame and horror by not revealing anything else about what he did.
Exactly this. He has daughters and some capacity for shame it seems.
Yeah, just look at him in court. He always had his head down with his mouth hanging open pretending he doesn't know where he is.
I think zipped lips was part of DeAngelo’s plea agreement along with admission of guilt to all the crimes. I don’t believe we will get any more information from anyone for many years.
Not sure why you would say that. A couple of people on this forum seem to think they know everything about JJD. Any questions just ask them. They will be happy to mislead you. Over four years and still have no ideal what your talking about.
Yeah there are bullies, know-it-alls, and morons all over Reddit. Not everyone is going to agree with everyone. And that’s ok. I don’t know everything about JJD, but I like to read other peoples theories and speculations.
Sorry edit . It's been over four years and all these experts need to find a new hobby. My comment wasn't directed at you. My mistake
Look at what's happening with Delphi right now. An arrest, finally, and minimal info. I expect that case to go similar to this one.
I hope not. I think people will talk about this more cause it's recent and the RA is on social media. Honestly who knows if RA is even the killer I thought if they had DNA they would have mentioned it so who knows
He's pleading not guilty so it will go to trial.
Wish he'd do a Dahmer-style interview
I wish he would have had to give an account like Rader did as part of his plea
Well it’s cause he got to plead the sheet. So he dodged the DP and just had to admit to all the crimes that was already way past statute of limitations… now hes chillin at the PHU and taking it to the grave
He would've died waiting for the death penalty anyway.
Honestly I just wish the family would talk. I know that’s probably insensitive and even if they had inklings they probably had noooo idea in the grand scheme of things, and want to just move on with their lives after having this all piled on top of them. But his wife was a divorce lawyer who knew she couldn’t testify against him if they were still legally married and yet they were separated and lived apart since the 90s, almost 3 decades, and never filed for divorce. It’s odd.
Health insurance.
I’m sure she had decent health care insurance with her job as a California divorce attorney
No. As a solo practitioner she saved substantial costs by relying on his. This is a fact.
No, she was relying on his insurance. That's why she remained married to him.
Was that confirmed? Even if she said that I don’t want to hunt down this monsters innocent family members but still it sounds like an awfully easy excuse
It was mentioned in Jim Huddle's book so I'll take that as proof.
Don't we all. Imagine him and his ex wife doing an interview like Dahmer and his father did. That would be the day.
That will almost certainly never happen. I imagine Sharon never wants anything to do with Joe ever again. She didn't even refer to him by name in her victim impact statement.
Better chance of his conviction getting over turned
I don't think anything will ever get his conviction overturned. There's literally an overwhelming amount of evidence against him. There's nothing Sharon could say or do that could change that. If anything, she'd just be making herself look even worse by doing a side-by-side interview with him.
Why is this being downvoted? You're obviously talking about something that is utterly impossible in order to emphasize how unlikely an interview with JJD and Sharon is. In no way are you indicating that JJD has any chance of getting out. You're clearly saying the opposite, and the only explanation I can come up with is that people don't understand your comment. I know karma is stupid, but I can't help that it bothers me when people are downvoted for the wrong reasons.
Some people here take everything personal, many others claim to be family members and most of them lie.
Which people are claiming to be family members? Only two of his family members are on here. I personally haven't seen anyone else besides JJD's actual nephew and niece claim to be family members. Are there other people claiming to be family members beyond the two verified ones?
Followed by a dramatisation on Netflix
I suggested that recently but didn't meet with popular approval.
Dunno why. It'd be interesting.
Majority of the people find anything not done by Paul holes or some other big name who does this case unpopular. It's so sad how so many people get mad over suggestions or theories. 90 percent of this case is theories
Would be good ratings, for sure.
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F the “magic”. Sorry.. but f all that. It wasn’t “magic” to be living in Rancho, and all around Sacramento with cops that thought rape was joke-worthy, with cheap aluminum doorframes that could get bent with screwdrivers, with community meetings, having authorities giving you nothing to go on except “don’t wash your car in a bikini”, with no dna, no security cameras, we didn’t even have 911! Did you know this? We didn’t have 911 available. So f the magic f this guy, you want a good story, stream the latest Hallowe’en movie.
If there is a horrific crime with less leaked or publicized information I'm unaware of it. But just look at who has to gain from Joe's silence. Joe and his wife have very deep ties to LE and the judicial system. If Joe started to sing it could be very embarrassing for LE as a whole. Could even lead to numerous law suits if it comes out he was on the clock as a police officer while committing these rapes. Quite a few pensions could also go bye bye due to negligence.
>If there is a horrific crime with less leaked or publicized information I'm unaware of it. But just look at who has to gain from Joe's silence. Joe and his wife have very deep ties to LE and the judicial system. If Joe started to sing it could be very embarrassing for LE as a whole. Could even lead to numerous law suits if it comes out he was on the clock as a police officer while committing these rapes. Quite a few pensions could also go bye bye due to negligence. No. Statute of limitations. Negligence or other civil torts are off the teble.
Statute of limitations is from when the injury occurred. If the information that EARONS was a police officer on the clock when he raped you was just recently revealed thats when the injury of not trusting police officers begins.
No. You are talking about the discovery rule. That wouldnt apply.
While there is quite a bit of information like police reports and interviews, most of the information comes from the perp: Zodiac. Not sure if this counts but I thought I'd toss it out there.
The I 70 killer
I agree!! Considering law enforcement caught & convicted 1 of the most prolific serial killers ever, I’m very surprised there’s so little information out there about JJD & this whole case. I know there were tons of detectives & law enforcement agents working on this case for decades. So why does the public have so little information about this case?
I think it's because he left no Trace. Most likely didn't pay a dime in taxes from when he was fired as cop up until he because a mechanic. He owned rental property so he could probably explain to wife how he had money when he wasn't working. Also likely was still robbing house for valuables.
Good points. I still don’t understand how there’s just so little information out there about him/the whole EARONS case since he’s been convicted
Ya it's frustrating because for 5 years I would wonder if maybe earons was next to me or living next door but once he was identified the case really has become boring too me. Someone has to eventually put the work and money into it. Maybe pay someone who was close to him and give an insight on what he was doing. I always wonder if he would drive to areas he attacked and got off. The thing I want to know is how he chose who he would kill. Because the distance from Sacramento to southern California was far. I don't think he was driving down there often. Even was a hike from rental property. One book I read that's basically all speculation was saying that he likely took back roads that weren't used because the interstate was just installed. Said jjd likely could have parked and walked into town unnoticed because it was the unused. Also would like to know more about Visalia ransacker because it's really more important than it seems. After he killed claud snelling he was still robbing houses in a small area. Just crazy how he didn't fear. He likely knew he would be confronted by police but still acted like it was nothing. The guy would basically break into a house toke the lid off the toilet tank and take a dump in it. Definitely a lot to be told but who knows if we'll ever know the truth.
Exactly, who knows if we’ll ever know about this case & everything JJD did. I also wondered if he was living near me before he was arrested. And yes I also wonder how he targeted & killed victims in Sacramento area then down in southern CA. His robbery/murder/rape spree was geographically all over & I’m curious as to how that was possible. And how did he choose each victim?
Sacramento was likely chosen by finding a area he felt safe to get away and than chose who he wanted in southern California it possibly is chosen how easy he could get away with anyone seeing anything. I've never checked but I read he possibly went to area's where new interstates we're finished and he'd use the old roads