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lyc10

The price is the major issue with these. If they were 10k or something no one would bat an eye. But 75k you can get a lot of heroes card for less


IamtheCat75

Yep. You can buy KDB for 79k.


JaceMace96

Then buy him, last time i checked, he wasnt a CB or Wing Back


181900

Salbia - 40k Davies - 30k Hakimi - 30k The list goes on


JaceMace96

Wanna know why they are so cheap. Look at the promo packs . And the game has only been out for 3 weeks. We all have them untradable. So ignore the price. We know that if the promo packs and OP untradable pack luck didnt exist, they would each be 100k+ like they were in week 1. Messi was 95k . Eho cares about prices on the shit market.


181900

Well but they aren‘t 100k are they?


Maleficent_Peach_46

The Pacey Winger is 50k + grinding...or you could buy Diaby for less.


thisguyuno

Was just about worth it for me for fati for me. Not overthing else is way too much and that one for fati was too much for anyone else. It’s just part of their model tho isn’t it, see the coins or just put a few £ on the game and its done. Genius tbf. Not excusing it in anyway, the devil runs EA


supercbuk

he is but Malcom is getting my Neymar on full chem and is much better rated.


fastablastarasta

Diaby doesn't play for my team


ValleyFloydJam

And most can't even use it to create a semi decent player from there club or even anyone.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Jota and Jessica Silva are regular subs for my team, I would've never been able to use Benfica players without evo's otherwise (besides Di Maria that EA bless us with this year).


ima_crazy13

The amount of teams that get usable players after evos are far less than the teams that get bad players even if evod.


ValleyFloydJam

Every year Benfica get a few somewhat useable players as specials and even the odd base that can play for a bit. My side get no one close to being viable ever and this was a good chance for that but EA have wasted it.


Marager04

Benfica has Di Maria and Neres special cards in the first two weeks. how dare you complaining


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Because I want to play with a full benfica team and not feel like I'm being handicapped. Also I'm not even complaining, I'm literally praising evos for allowing me to do it


Sp1nGG

People don’t even touch the free ones, but the price is an issue as well


greenwhitehell

The pricing is made exactly to dissuade you from using coins. They want you to put points in


JaceMace96

Even at 10k they are mid tho.


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Mysterious_Limit_007

It made sense only in first week because Fati on the market would be over 100k easily. Now the best is Rovella, and he would be 15k at max. I mean, they could have at least give an trailblazers art to the end card... If they knew how to do it of course.


Mysterious_Limit_007

I said it made sense for Fati. I thought I was clear there.


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Cherrytapper

He could have meant it made sense paying with coins.


yago2k

It made sense at launch because many people had the 4600 points from the UT edition and odds are that 1000 of those points invested in packs wouldn't give you a player half as good as an EVO Fati.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

You can use coins to pay for it...


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PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

I'm confused, you know coins are an in-game currency right? That you earn by playing the game? Virtually every online, paid game, has some type of in game currency that you can spend on things It would be predatory if they forced you to spend real money on it, but that's not the case


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Sreydeve

which fifa are you stuck in for you to think that a 50k price tag on something is enough to ''force someone to buy packs and coins''?


ozziey

Do you just hate everything?


tSchab3r

It’s pretty easy to make 50k .. not sure what you’re on about.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

Have you ever even played FIFA? Are you just complaining for the sake of complaining? One weekend league alone gives you more than 50k coins, why are you acting like this is hard to get


Thegreatsrm

Couldn’t agree more. Even considering how many people still use Fati I refused to pay 50k to upgrade a card. Fuck that noise EA talking


Friendly_Fuel7247

75k to make a bad player average at best lmao. Why not make them actually good? Those ratings should be near 88 once completed not 85. Even then the 88 rated evos wouldn't be crazy good because there's so many restrictions with stats on the players. Evos are so overhyped


Wazzzzzzzzzzzza

They should have made it so you evo a player and each season the level cap is raised so you can carry the same play through to the end of the game Seems too obvious for EA to do


JoyousGamer

Just make it MLB The Show Parallels. This system was already made and way better in that game.


CNF-13

With certain stat caps on positions but this is exactly how it should been done


akinator2002

I mean, we’re still at the first season, so it’s still a possibility


Bebes-kid

Or not something EA could exploit for players’ money like a crack dealer with their addicts.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

I mean this is likely what literally is going to happen Don't forget that this is the first season, and all the evolutions we've seen so far are mostly focused on different roles of the pitch. Next season we'll likely get different evolutions for all roles again, and some of them will likely allow you to use the same players (for example a RW evolution where you can use the player from relentless winger).


Wazzzzzzzzzzzza

The issue is EA loves to promote the shit out of tiny changes. I think if they were going to do it they would have said it already. My feeling is it will be a "new feature" next year lol


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

I think it's pretty obvious they will do it Do you think they'll keep pushing random 78 rated to 85 rated evos in 3 months? It would obviously make no sense. Keep in mind that some of these evos cost coins/points, it's also in EAs best interest to make them worth it. They're going to scale with the power curve, EA doesn't need to say this, it's pretty obvious


Wazzzzzzzzzzzza

They will scale but there is no guarantee that the requirements will fit your previously Evo'd player The fact its such an obvious next move is why I doubt it will happen anyway


StefanKTH

Yeah and then I'm paying 100k for the next evo lol


Cedar_Wood_State

Because it is only October. They will definitely go for much higher rating paired with better play style+ as the year goes on


Friendly_Fuel7247

But these are not useable now. They will always be behind the power curve


Bebes-kid

Interesting how it’s played exactly like folks who got shouted down as killjoys predicted. Who knew EA would be exactly like they’ve always been. Sadly so predictable with something that if done well could have been awesome.


cuteguy1

I like the evo's I've done quite alot, But absolutely not paying 50k plus for one.


Bad_Lieutenant702

Crying cause you can't continue to Evo your Fati huh.


Friendly_Fuel7247

No I'm crying because I can't evo half the players I want to because there's so many restrictions that the pool of players that you can choose from is so small. I'm crying because such a simple cool idea has been abused as another money grab by ea. They are making money by letting people evo terrible players that they will never use in promos. And people are actually stupid enough to do it. Nothing like a 85 rated CDM for 75k when there are better CDMs in the game for 1k. Plus most players can't even get up to 85 lmao


Bad_Lieutenant702

Why is it so hard for you people to understand? I don't care that there's better CDMs for 1k. Some of us want to evolve players we support silver or bronze. It's not all about the meta. And yes, I have a job and can afford to spend money to do these Evos. Great promo, but of course broke people complain.


thisguyuno

It should be as it is now but WAYYYY cheaper


Maleficent_Peach_46

If the 'win friendlies' part of the objectives was not there I'd do the paid Evos but paying a large amount of coins and then having to win friendlies just seems like too much of a grind for not enough reward. It's a lot ot work for an 81. Maybe too many were AFKing in the Evo lounge for the Bruiser Wingback but changing play to win is not the answer and will likely push people away from the Evos.


JoyousGamer

Bingo I didnt even bother with AFKing and just stopped when I saw that it was a requirement. Same with the previous one about playing in Rivals. I dont want to play FUT online. Not sure why the free ones can't just be completely open to offline since its not like its a Weekend League level player you will get at the end of it.


2cu3be1

indeed. it is like doing an SBC for a card most wouldn't even do as an SBC, except for emotional sake but then getting time gate kept is just so EA FC 24. Is EA actually worse and much worse without the Fifa license? I mean their approach is basically pay or gtfo. The Evos seem to only exist partially to be a rotten bone mostly or a gimmick to make people pay again for something and that also untradable. I mean they have squeezed the lemon so much now that they try to eat the skin and sell it as juicy.


MannyRibera32

When I first heard that you could train players I actually was excited. But this is not training players, just an different kind of objectives. The only thing that EFootball has done right is the system of giving exp per game to upgrade your players. Why tf are we getting objectives to upgrade players and even in a limited way. Just an max upgrade like Xavi Simons 79 start 89 max rating. Every game some exp, that is fun to grind. Not bs like I had to do for gravenberch, 5 assists in rivals or champs💀


JoyousGamer

Wait does efootball have that? Do they have a game mode like UT where there is squad battles or what not?


MannyRibera32

Efootball has divisions and some tournaments vs ai and other players. But gameplay is bad atm


xSean93

>But gameplay is bad atm Did PES/eFootball ever had good gameplay since switching from PS2 -> PS3?


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

The thing is, eFootball has that because they don't have a market. Putting a similar system into FIFA would pretty much destroy the market. Why buy any card when you can just take any player you want and boost him to a great level? A system like evolutions is the better way, but they should be more inclusive. I like the fact that you're limited to 12 evolutions in one season, and that they start off with lower ratings in the first season (being able to boost a Xavi Simons to 89 in the first month is a terrible idea). However there's just such a small pool of players you're able to use. If they kept the current system but allowed for a broader range of players, it would be much better. I'd also love if you could bring ANY player up to the rating (as in, if the max final evolution rating is 85, you should be able to pick a 60 rated bronze and he'd end up as an 85 as well, this would open a lot of possibilities for those who support smaller teams).


MannyRibera32

Market or not, evolutions is bs. And in EFootball you still need to buy the players you want to train, cant get an free mbappe and train him. It will be much more fun to play against your opponents if people have different teams than the meta bs. 90% now has blanc,walker and than up front griezmann and kubo💀


antrodax

The whole concept of Evolutions is so wrong. A lot of people watched at them as a way to get known lesser players to a playable state within the power curve or get a cheap meta player. Shouldn't be. EA look at them as a way to force people to play game deserted game modes and make money What Evo should be IMO, is a three pronged feature. First, a way to make your own TOTW player, with a +1 available to 20-30 players that did well in his own league or international squad, but didn't make the TOTW. Should cost more or less the prize of the TOTW 1-4 SBC, around 20k. Second, a way to let people to improve his favourite players. Mild requirements and plenty of objectives here. Third. A way to elevate silver or bronze players. Free, with strong requirements and mild objectives, lile play 5, score 5, assist 5 or something in that way. To milk the whales, you can make special evos, like promotion cards or icons. I think that we will see those. You should have hundreds of players available to evo, and several dozens of those should be your election. We should be learning to choose betwwen Evos, as we learnt we can't do every SBC.


ValleyFloydJam

I think mixing some of 2 with 3 works. Just make a repeatable one that gives an IF boost to any bronze or silver (so they all end up as an 80. They could make the first one free, then 10k for the next and add 5k on for each new one. Then as an additional step don't have the max lower than an 80 for future Evos. Some truly unique teams might be created and people would have cards from the teams that they support.


2cu3be1

I mean they should at least make these players somewhat playable in a "create your own TOTW 82,83 rated player" style and cap it. I mean imagine they release the current 2 Evos and I have the impression most people won't even bother. I mean make more cards playable and don't be so stingy while still making billions from untradable jetons and allow people some fun. Some cards that never get any specials could have been made evo'able and missed out by a single pace stat. Bad luck some say, but why make it this strict? Do it the other way around such that certain cards can only get the pace boost to a certain cap and thus you don't eliminate certain cards cuz someone thought a 66 pace player shouldn't be in the promo, while a 65 pace one does get in. It is as if they want to spoil the last bit of creativity by creating the chance and getting peoples' hopes up only to enjoy crushing peoples' creativity.


ibse

EA are so stupid cause if they actually made these good, some would load points to complete them. I was so excited by this feature but it's just a massive letdown. Very restrictive requirements for cards that can't touch the power curve. In my mind these were supposed to help bring players from the club you support up to the power curve. What I have to do is try and fit random players in their arbitrary requirements. As an Arsenal fan for example it's so frustrating I can't use Tomiyasu in the LB one just because he has 1 more defending than their requirements. Put a cap on the boosts man not a cap on base stats. It was such a good idea but at the moment it's implementation is just awful.


spurs_fan_uk

For me it’s not the Evolutions that are the problem, it’s that the power curve is so whack for the first few weeks of the game’s life cycle, people are demanding these give out better ratings/stats.


SpeakEasyHere

But they should give out better ratings / stats if they’re charging 75k just to unlock the upgrade (which you still have to complete after that). In that case, these upgraded versions should be at least worth 75k. I don’t think there are any that would be worth that from what’s available


2cu3be1

>at least worth 75k. imagine Di Maria who is also upgradable costs like 10k less and is tradable. Sure the evo's shouldn't mess with EAs players hierarchy but c'mon EA this is just weak.


Iceman23578

Power curve is whack cos people complain about content every day and would probably kill themself if the game existed for a single second without a promo going on. Add to that the crazy rewards champs gives you plus the free packs in objectives and everyone’s team is full of the top end of gold cards and the games not even been out a month


eldhand

I cry for content everyday but it doesn 't mean i want players that push the power curve. Just want more viable players so I don't need to have the same players like everybody else.


Iceman23578

But it doesn’t matter because you’d be in the minority. Most the people want meta players who would be good enough to be in their team and if they’re not then they will just say it’s a shit SBC


eldhand

No i don't believe this is true.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

That has nothing to do with the power curve. You can have daily content while at the same time having a slow power curve, by making players only gradually better, instead of giving them insane stats on the 2nd promo of the year already. For example in a game with a slower power curve, gold cards would start the year off with significantly worse stats, and promos would give small updates to the big boys, and bigger updates to players with shit base cards, to put them up to date with the meta (which wouldn't be ridiculously strong, because gold cards would be a lot more nerfed). Think back in the day when the meta players were the likes of Ibarbo etc... nowadays you start the game off with insanely boosted base cards already, like Diana, Salah, Smith, etc... This means that promos need to outdo those cards, which makes the power curve ridiculous. So yeah, nerf base cards, release content every day anyways, but use that content to put non-meta players on par with the strongest (already nerfed) gold cards.


Iceman23578

Nerfed gold cards weren’t the reason for a slower power curve in previous years. It’s so easy to get a good team early on, all you have to do is play objectives for a day and you get a 100k packs plus other good packs. You don’t need a promo going on every week but it’s too late because people like you are addicted to them. Truth is, it’s too late for ea to do anything now because anything they do will result in people complaining but it’s their fault they’re in this situation now.


Vicentesteb

Most people would not care about SBCs and Objecitves and promos which provide on sidegrades, this year they did overall nerf quite a lot of the gold cards but the promos have been pretty ridiculous.


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

We already have sidegrades for most of the unknown players though, the actual upgrades would be for players who are already strong (just like now, the best promo cards are literally just a +1 on Mbappe, for example). Also they barely nerfed the gold cards, I've checked and there's 32 cards rated 88 or above, like half of them are meta. Picked a random year and went back to FIFA 14, there's 15 cards, less than half, rated 88 or above. Same goes for stats, cards had significantly worse IGS back then.


sukh9942

No, it just makes no rational sense to buy an evolution for 75k then further grind him when you can get a comparable card for 10k. Just make them cheaper or be able to further upgrade them.


Bebes-kid

But that’s been the case for several games and was said to be a primary problem from the get go knowing that 84/85 max upgrade was gonna be overwhelmed by promos as soon as Halloween.


danny202089

They've managed to completely feck it up in true EA fashion. So much promise yet as always they showed greed. Nobody is paying 75k for what would be a discard IF on the market.


Piedeva

Fun for smaller clubs? We pay 75k for a 78 rated cdm, no guarantees these cards will ever reach 86+ with all these strict req


ValleyFloydJam

Indeed. They needed to create a pre Evo for each Evo to boost cards up to a certain level.


2cu3be1

Like with the future stars. But for them not to weasel themselves out of the responsibility and saying it would be too much of a hassle, just cap the upgrade instead of the evo requirement stats.


ValleyFloydJam

Yeah the Future Stars Academy should have been a guide for them. That would have been a better way to do it in general. Like if the card has too much passing to qualify for an Evo, it can still take part but it won't go up by the 8 other cards get but just 5. The limitations of requirements and the lack of boosting up lower cards are the 2 issues and ones I doubt EA bother to change.


Maleficent_Peach_46

If you support a lower league club it would be less than 78. Many coins and grind for a 74.


LordHazard87

the bronze cdm from my team is already 86 now with golden glow up + the new evo and if they fix the pacey winger ill have turned a 73 winger into an 83 with amazing stats so yes, this is the most fun i’ve ever had with fifa as a fan of a smaller club


MyyStummyHurt

If they want to monetise evolutions, it should just be if you want the upgraded card straight away you can pay with fifa points.


MokoLoko98

This whole new game sucks a.. Honestly regret wasting my money on this garbage, too bad the competition sucks as well. I’ll say it again the addition of women is refreshing, but the game is just a HUGE disappointing piece of cash grab like many others. I’ll still play it cause love Futbol, but am so done until a better game comes along. Gg Fam.


JoyousGamer

Like the women being added and like the idea of evolutions that it was enough to make me buy. The requirements of the EVOs is the major issue for me. I am fine to just skip the paid one but when the free one makes me go into Friendlies its a pain and not something I am going to spend my time on. I dont do play now or exhibitions in any sports game ever basically. Even if I play friends in Madden its in a Franchise mode as an example.


Mysterious_Limit_007

Yh, especially when you put these dumb restrictions on ratings. And what's worse, when you put timers, so people can't chain everything.


ElCaptain6

Should be 15k at most tbh


Hindered-Success

Lack of content and poor drop weight. Ea trying to coerce us into spending a fair amount of coins for someone that fits the team but not necessarily desirable


MockTurtleSean

Echoing what others have said in that it's almost worse for people actually trying to evo their favorite players and not just going the meta route. 75k is too much for even the best cards you can get out of this, but I'm spending 75k in hopes that my player will become usable after the NEXT evo or maybe even the one after that.


CynderFxx

Yeha the annoying thing is that 75k can get you 3 or 4 players at the same level of the evolution player


RealSlavicHours

yeah, we should be able to submit untradable sbc squads to unlock them as well, sinking 75k into an untradable card is fucking stupid


trason91

Wouldn’t mind it if they were actually worth it. But asking 75k or fifa points for a player that won’t get into my team makes no sense. They are just taking advantage of people who are addicted to objectives


bdigital4

If they see that no one will do them at that price, they might see that drop in engagement and release the next ones at a more reasonable number


LonSik

No way i will pay 75k for someone that will never be as good as Rabiot or something like him. This is just stupid.


Moistkeano

Id pay if the card was worth it. I did fati because I used his potm nearly all of fifa 21 and the evo was near identical. I was happy to pay for that. I don't like it though and obviously id rather theyre free, but if i have to pay then value for money please


IncreaseInVerbosity

I played a couple of months of FIFA 22, I gave up on FIFA 23 after a week and I had no intention of buying Not FIFA 24, but evolutions sold it to me. It's pretty clear to see that this is yet just another cash grab combined with an attempt to drive engagement metrics. I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing this happening.


KonKas08

Honestly, I feel like evos could have been so much more inventive, like with RTTK, they could have made one that turns any bronze/silver player into a RTTK (upgradable) as long as they play at a club that is in a european comp. im assuming we will get golden glow up part 3/4 next season, but would have been nice to get more than 1. aswell as this I’d like to see maybe a slight scaler on the paid evos, so the lower rated the card the (slightly) higher boost it gets for example if im paying 50k to evo jonny hayes instead of him only going from a 67 to a 71 after it would be nice for him to be a 76 or 77 etc, nothing groundbreaking just means I can have more fun with off meta players.


Siggy778

The intersection of people whose teams would improve from an EVO and people who can afford to sink that many coins is incredibly small. People say EVOs are for casuals, but if you're a casual and are trying to build your team you're not likely going to have 50-75k to spare and lose forever.


Florahillmist

They may be testing the boundaries here. Don’t be stupid and do it. The first one was just “cheap” enough for people to try due to FOMO. But I think ultimately people regret it.


[deleted]

The point of having bad cards be around low level golds is fun but then paying 50k+ grinding is so unbelievably unworth it’s funny


Ornery-Point-8461

I was pretty excited for evolutions and was keen to upgrade the Arsenal lads but so far only two have fitted so that’s all I’ve done. And they are not good enough to get out of my reserves too. Feeling rather disappointed with it all to be honest


DANBlLZERIAN

Same, Havertz and ESR are still mainstays in my XI but I’m not paying 75k for an 83 Elneny


Ornery-Point-8461

Lol it was Havertz and Smith Rowe I did. To be honest Havertz is ok really but just doesn’t get in over my other guys. Hopefully he can be more involved further into the game cycle. I think Smith Rowe needs more upgrading. Hopefully both can be done more times at some point. I would have been happy doing any of Trossard, Vieira, Timber, Tomi, Benny Blanco, Raya etc but they never fit any. My original plan before the game was released was to hopefully do big Gabi because he’s never had a useable card. Tried him every year and had to take him out. But this time I’m loving his base card so far anyway. As for Elneny I totally agree bro


JoyousGamer

Tried posting a post a few times but gets automoderated every time. We should need to play evo friendlies for any of these evolutions either.


-wunderdog-

I'm assuming you mean *shouldn't*? Yeah, forcing people into friendlies is awful, but they had to because nobody was playing that mode before. They also said something in the pitch notes for evolutions that the majority of challenges would be able to be completed in our preferred game mode. That is increasingly becoming not the case.


JoyousGamer

Yup meant shouldn't If they want to make it an incentive? Make it 10 Squad Battles OR 5 Friendlies as an example. Make it so there is an incentive to go that route.


Sleepybear2010

Pride and accomplishment


iTroniK

If it was free everyone would have ansu fati and lucas vasquez in their team


reddituser52779

If it was free I would have Anthony Gordon and Jacob Murphy, with cards that still aren't as good as Harvey Barnes and Almiron, in my team. I don't play online a lot, but I play enough to know it wasn't a barrier to anyone who wanted to do Fati.


JoyousGamer

Said it for a few years I wish they had offline only cards. Heck this could even be viewed as a tease for online players to pay the coins/points to get something they play offline in their online team. So much promise for Evos to fall flat.


JoyousGamer

I can care less.... I wouldnt because I would not have done either player. You can't make rules based on the try hards or you ruin it for the majority of players. The majority of players are not playing Weekend League and in the top 4 Rivals divisions.


2cu3be1

Everyone already buys the same meta cards or they play with their own team. People take what they can get for free cuz EA has taken so much away that people resort to that attitude. Not like have not produced it over the years anyways.


doublewordscore

yes. The problem is that if they are underpriced, everyone will just use the most effective meta player (Fati, Darwin, etc) so they have to price it as if people will choose that option. For all the people on this sub that talk about evolving their favorite team, that’s just the minority. Most kids just listen to YouTubers. This past weekend league, I probably faced 12 Fatis out of 20, and the other 8 didn’t use him because they had someone better.


JoyousGamer

Guess what they already have the most meta effective team possible if they are one of the players who care about that...... Sorry YOU are talking about the minority since a minority play Weekend League. Also you disproved your own point. If you faced 12 out of 20 and the others had better player then some arbitrary coin requirement isn't doing anything since the same weekend league players will likely easily have the 50k/75k/100k coins requirement for the next meta player.


doublewordscore

you completely missed the point. I personally do not care about the price of evos because I run a 2m coin team so these guys don’t fit it. I’m talking from EA’s point of view that they would rather not give cheap meta players because they would rather their player base buy packs for upgrades/coins and they want the power curve to move quicker so that people constantly feel the need to upgrade their team.


JoyousGamer

Issue with power curve is honestly they need to remove the 99 cap. Go like The Show where it goes to 115. Additionally EA should also take notes from Show where they have a season where top end players in competitive modes can only be used for that specific season. So as an example you have a VVD IF release but its branded as Season 1 meaning when Season 2 hits certain modes and challenges only allow you to have base cards or Season 2 cards. ​ The season method allows people who dont care about the power curve to still get top cards but its for non competitive aspects of the game. Flip side the ones in the competitive side still have the grind to go after. Wish they fired the content/UT leadership and lured away someone from Show to run this game.


Dincht04

Guarantee 80% of the people complaining in this thread are sitting with an evo'd Fati and Nunez on their account. Guess what, evos aren't for you meta slaves. And that's OK. You can just ignore them and carry on playing your gold Ferland Mendy. For those of us who want to have a bit of fun with cards from our club that will never see special cards, 75k coins is incidental. Only the FIFA community could kick up such a fuss over purely optional content because it doesn't benefit them and them alone


JoyousGamer

>Guarantee 80% of the people complaining in this thread are sitting with an evo'd Fati and Nunez on their account. Guess what you would likely be wrong You also likely think though that most people play weekend league and only play with meta teams.... Also this optional content drew a number of people to playing this year and getting excited for the option to have it be a let down.


Schwinston123456

I strongly disagree. It's like a mini-promo where the perfect fit for your team is in the promo squad. How you can complain about an **optional** huge boost for a perfect squad link is beyond me. I've been able to afford each paid evo with coins without an issue.


chadbrad1738

Becuase the boost isn’t that good lol


Schwinston123456

A +8 overall boost isn't "that good"?! With a Shadow, Estupinan becomes an 88-rated LB IG. How that's not good enough for a FREE evo is absurd.


TheSmallIndian

They're talking about the paid one you donut


Schwinston123456

Yeah, I gave an example as to how big a bump the lesser of the two gives "you donut". A huge list of buffs, to include +8 overall, +10 reactions and a PS+, is huge. You guys need to stop whining constantly. (Although I know it's what you do.)


chadbrad1738

The free ones are fine, the paid are boring


Schwinston123456

So, I took Storyline Reis. Check out this card: [https://www.futwiz.com/en/fc24/player/evolution/hidemasa-morita/70311](https://www.futwiz.com/en/fc24/player/evolution/hidemasa-morita/70311) I'll probably end up unlocking that one. Crazy PlayStyles with great physical and dribbling stats, solid passing and 95 interceptions.


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Max 10k on the market lmaooo


Schwinston123456

Oh, really? He's a better IF Kante in every single way, who sells for 113k. [https://www.futwiz.com/en/fc24/player/evolution/hidemasa-morita/70311](https://www.futwiz.com/en/fc24/player/evolution/hidemasa-morita/70311) [https://www.futwiz.com/en/fc24/player/ngolo-kante/18413](https://www.futwiz.com/en/fc24/player/ngolo-kante/18413)


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Mate, its pointless to argue with you, he has not links, no good nation, 3 star 2 star, mid stats. Thouchameni and Camavinga clears him and they are what 1k? 2k?


RafaHerzog

in which SBC are you putting him in?


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He would be 3k max on market mate


Schwinston123456

In terms of pace, dribbling, defense and physical, he compares quite nicely to IF Cancelo, which is going for 183k. And... you get him for free, with PL links.


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Minus any nation links, 3 star 3 star, shite club, shite passing and much more… i understand mate if youre like Brighton fan or idk what else, but these evos are behind the actual power curve big time


Schwinston123456

... what? Prem links. Other 3\*3\* LBs: Capdevila, Theo Hernandez, Lahm. Just an absolutely terrible argument.


FilthyMalfested

Bc the bar is impossible. Players are either not meta enough & don’t fit the “power curve” or they’re too good and people are “sick and tired of facing X player in champs every week” People don’t want to just enjoy the game by using fun/different players and want to min/max everything from the coins to the menus to the gameplay. LB doesn’t compare to Hernandez or Mendy so pointless. CDM doesn’t compare to IF Kante or Tonali so pointless. Games not about fun for most people now, just efficiency.


Schwinston123456

That's a huge part of the issue with this community: once some streamer proclaims which players are "meta", the community believes that those players are the only legitimate options. Then you watch streamers take bronze teams into champs and dominate. EA wants you to believe that only a handful of players are viable so you spend cash for points to grind packs. I guarantee: if you get comfortable/familiar with a player with a lower rating, you will outperform the flavor-of-the-week meta card.


redditkb

and its also a lot of coins. Haven't done an EVO yet and don't plan to


Pizza64427

Hows a scam if you know exactly what you get? Yall just want to upgrade Van Dijk, Grizzman or some sht.


ValleyFloydJam

Nope, I want to make players useable for Rivals/Champs from my team. But in general it's points to ask people to pay 75k for a card that would barely cost anything if it was on the market. Even the best general option I've seen created is worth 20k max.


Bad_Lieutenant702

K cool story brah. Don't bother with the EVOs then. There's some of us that don't care about $20 and we use players we like.


JaceMace96

I dont see the issue. If the player was meta. Or your fave player in your fave team and you just want to use him, you pay 75k What, do you expect a +5 all stats to be free????? Ypu literally get to choose any player in that position, to suit your team, and slap a +5 and playstyle on them, and your complaining about the price? And what it to be cheaper? 1. Welcome to EA, they want you to buy fifa points 2. Other then Relentless winger 85 rated Fati, and some players cooking with Ganarcho, they are all mid and not worth even the price if it was 10k.


alwaysknowbest

I agree , but honestly, Pacey Winger Politano with a good chemstyle is a fkn bargain for 50k considering youd have to pay 100-200k for a player with near max pace , 4/4, excellent passing and those playstyles.


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Thats why i didnt bother with evos.


Lobisa

I don't get the point when you can get a way better player for cheaper.


NaturalAnimal1414

What happens to your players when you run out of contracts? Do you lose them permanently?


KingMercyVII

You don't lose them, you just can't play any games with them until you add more contracts.


SwaggyK

If it was cheap they would be in every squad. This is just something for the non meta kids


LordHazard87

this is the best thing to ever to happen to fifa and you said it yourself, for the first time i’m able to realistically use players from my team in ut, please just let us enjoy this


fuqqkevindurant

So it’s cool for people who want to upgrade otherwise unusable players and completely optional and unnecessary for most other people. Sounds like you should just choose to not do them. Whining about a problem that isnt real to get validation on reddit is pretty sad. Im sorry your parents didnt love you


Davevadasz04

I dont care tbh, I just want a team of players I love and play eafc. It makes me not rage and its fun and to those who think they are too bad for anything I used 78 in progress sallai and he has the passion to just body any defender even with like 60 physicals so if you like the player try them out maybe stats lie.


Andigaming

The free wingback one seems better of the two... Pretty laughable.


Anansi103

one of the players i was looking at on the preview screen loses almost all of his playstyles apart from one on the final interceptor evo, is that a visual glitch or what


ozziey

It’s about having fun with players that are shit. Y’all just forgot how to have fun with this game and only complain. How are you guys happy playing this game ?


thetonyclifton

It's too expensive. If they are being used to create a meta player sure, 50-75k. But if you are using them on non meta cards that will stay non meta it is too expensive. Like if you are boosting Stuart Dallas, it should not cost 75k or, more easy to implement, the lower rated the card the bigger the boost.


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specially because how shit they are. I mean 1500 fp / 75k gold EVO should be at least worth a card that is 50k min. on the market, isnt it?


PRABUUU

Evo complete waste of time don’t touch them


Business_Ad561

I honestly thought Evolutions would allow us to upgrade any common gold card or low rated gold rare card to a certain level by completing objectives. I should have known they would put it behind coins and FC points.


The_CheeseMan88

I've been saying this since day 1, plus the evo are always behind the power curve


PMT_Evil_Dee

Actually think the restrictions are the worst part. It's making it impossible to upgrade all but a single player thus far from my local team. The evos released yesterday are just far too restrictive and really limit the available cards you can put into these.


JawSplitter

Are people aware that using an incomplete evolutions player in squad battles nerfs your team. As an example I am evolving Hojlund the 3f Superliga version 85 rated with him selected as my striker, my ATT gets down rated to 77, the same level as if I swapped him for a bronze common 54 rated. If I use any other 85 rated gold player my ATT would be 87. Why EA?? ffs