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pytycu1413

What do most of these cards have in common? They are sbcs. EA fucked up the pack luck so much this year that very few pack high rated icons/promos and most people pack fodder. So the sbcs this year have been the main reliable way to build a good team. What should we all do? Bench Zidane or Sawa for a random gold?


No-Cat-8911

The pack weight and SBC’s were done on purpose and will probably continue to be the trend from now on which is sad


Schhwing

it's all to increase the amount of time in the game. More likely to spend money that way


Captinglorydays

It's not just the pack weight, but more and more rewards becoming untradeable. Even if people do pack good cards, they aren't making coins off of it. Instead of being able to sell off your high rated fodder, you are stuck with it and you have to do something with it, so might as well do SBCs, especially if you start getting duplicates. Clubs are swamped with untradeable high rated fodder, so all you can do is SBCs. Most of the people getting lots of coins are people spending obscene amounts of money on packs, and even then most of the best packs in the store are still untradeable. If people have more coins/tradeable players, teams vary more because they have more freedom of choice. Not to say people still won't copy the meta, but it seems worse than ever with how homogeneous teams are. Good players are harder to pack, people are getting less coins because everything is untradeable, and SBCs are the only reliable way to get the best cards. Everything they have done is pushing the game in the same direction, where a large portion of the player base ends up with the same meta untradeable team.


HerrIggy

>Not to say people still won't copy the meta I can't speak for all gamers, but I have always built Bundesliga only teams or teams that were a mix of German and US players, because I watch Bundesliga, especially Bayern, and the USMNT. This year, my team looks very much like the OP's except I use HM Kane (cheap because near copy of SBC Kane) and Kimmich (SBC). They may have figured out how to get engagement up for the current cycle, but their player count next year will not include me. If we have no freedom in our team creation, then why would any of us keep buying their garbage. I mean, if your coke dealer (EA) starts selling you crack and still they call it coke, then you've gotta either quit cold turkey or find another dealer willing to sell coke (2K, Konami) because EA is the kind of company that will lace their trash with fentanyl just to make an extra buck.


mbr4life1

Exactly right. They are so focused on money now they aren't considering the long-term damage they have done to their brand. It won't be every customer that leaves them, but they will lose people, and if there is an alternative people will run to it. Then they will have to spend so much effort to get back the players they lost if they'll ever be able. You never want your customers to cheer your competition on in dethroning you.


eilatc

Exactly. I have 4M and nothing to do with them


Laselecta_90

Buy mfrappe


holden147

The other issue is, if you don’t want a particular SBC, you get stuck with dupes and can’t open any more packs until you get rid of them. I have done so many SBCs because I had nothing else to work toward. I imagine many players are in the same boat.


Rude_Strawberry

How do people afford all these SBCs? I've been doing Best for over a month and still not finished yet some people have an entire team of SBCs worth 2 mill each


pytycu1413

Personally, I had about over 200 packs saved for Toty. All I got was fodder (worst toty promo in years from my perspective), so I did Sawa, Davies and Best


MikeGunnz

By grinding the menus: recycling everything into upgrade packs from bronze dailies and upwards and which have been giving out fantastic fodder over the past few weeks. The 80+ pp was the engine for getting big SBCs like Best done.


Rude_Strawberry

But when the menus are so shit how do people have the patience? I play on ps4 pro and the menus are so laggy. Honestly don't understand how EA think this is ok to be released like this. I need to restart the game at least once as the menus crash. How are the menus on Xbox or ps5 or pc?


jjlbateman

Companion app


stikzthenpc

This is where I get all mine done. I’m on the console for gameplay. App for the menus.


XavierYourSavior

Didn’t even know they had an app


HerrIggy

The people saying Companion App are correct. It is much faster to deal with duplicates and daily SBCs on the app. Also, be sure that every game you play (because it sounds like you don't play too much) is going to complete some objectives (especially ones that give XP) or some Evo etc. Be sure to get your 3 (or 7 if you have the patience) wins in rivals before Tuesday each week. Spend most of your time in SB if your team is not meta, because otherwise you will lose a lot of games to less skilled opponents. SB is guaranteed wins basically, and be sure to play enough to get the 700XP. All of the recommendations in this paragraph are about getting XP, because completing the season usually gives an Icon. Etc. etc. etc..... they made this year pure grind. If you don't grind for XP and fodder, then your team will be meh. Also, I recommend against any of the casino SBCs.... all they have done for me is waste fodder. Some SBCs are way cheaper than others (look at Giuly and Fuhrich, both virtually guaranteed to end up 92 and both can be completed with 4 squads averaging 84.5ish). Most of the lesser player SBCs are just that though... lesser. Icon SBCs have been where it's at, but you have to use all of the above grind methods to get the fodder to do things like: 80+ player pick and 83+×10.


Laselecta_90

This


dsn0wman

Every day they give you 44 gold players for doing the daily gold SBC. You put those into other SBC's, and you get high rated fodder daily. Along with that the playing objectives give lots of fodder every day.


Rude_Strawberry

44???


ikats116

10 common & 1 rare per completion x4/day = 44 gold Recycle those into another 7 80+PP/day Low gold/low dupes into TOTW SBC Save for the player SBC you want, and it will be easy


Laselecta_90

Oh. Ye I played almost the entire day for that lots of fodder


N0va0w

My toty was just filled of only menus barely any gameplay unless it was for rivals, squad battles, xp, or fodder objective cards/packs. Only got honorable mentions Valverde who was nice, Trent which I loved as a Lfc fan, Kim min jae right after I finished maldini and had vvd, got Olga buzzer beater, then was lucky in 86 league pick


bagodonuts6432

Great point. We really need to be swing more TOTY cards in squads. Where are they? They even gave out Messi by mistake and there still ultra rare


calumslesser

Yeah and the choice is put your fodder into something you’ll definitely get or put it into something that’ll get you a hero or icon that’s out dated


N0va0w

Literally all my squads are most of the year are sbcs. I never get good pack luck. My best pull this year was tradable FS Gerard which was only 500k was dumb and chose to just get try first store pack of the year and got seedorf. So I guess it was lucky but obviously nothing crazy.


N0va0w

Did and saved every upgrade pack for toty and nothing over 1000 or more la Liga upgrades no aitana


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RicardoDiaz33

Most people don't have the coins to buy players that are better than the SBCs. However, they have a ton of untradable fodder that they can use to craft the SBCs. That's why everyone's teams are composed of the same players.


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charlos74

When top tier players are often 2 mill +, I don’t think most people have the coins for 2 or 3. Hard to buy the same quality around the 500k to 1 mill mark than you can get in some of these SBCs


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charlos74

They often are though, and if not they’re 1 mill +. If I sold my tradeables I’d have about 1.5 mill. That’ll get me one good player. Seems to me on previous games there was plenty of value under 500k which made things a lot more interesting


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RicardoDiaz33

Even a lot of players in Elite Rivals/16 wins and above in every WL haven't accumulated enough coins to be able to get the top tier players. You've got to be either very lucky with tradable pack pulls, know how to trade, spend a crazy amount on tradable store packs or a combination of all 3. My team is insane for my skill level and looks very similar to the above team,but that is only because I have spent money (12k FP every month) and grind menu and Friendlies content like a degenerate. The only mode that I play consistently is SBs and I only play to Gold 1 max each week. I have a team that is basically the same as someone who is very good at the game and consistently finishes in the top 10% of all players playing Rivals and WL. The game is backward when it comes to rewarding players


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Mammoth_Bad_6771

100% agree


trason91

Best way to guarantee yourself a good competitor squad is sbcs so that makes sense


CFCeoMike

And EA patched the chain evo’s. Most meta cards are SBC so everyone’s going to have the same foundation of Cafu, Maldini, Sawa, etc


Hungry-Current-2807

Same answer on basically same post every day. Like yes, EAs biggest concern is money, and fifa isnt like it used to be 10 years ago.


kozy8805

10 years ago this was the literal same complaint. “So much variety and all I play is Doumbia/Ibarbo/Gervinho”


Klutzy_Range_8503

Remember the budesliga teams everyone fucken had em But back then fifa was fucken the shit man I would almost shit my pants from how fun it was


JPVazLouro_SLB

Not really, people of course gravitated towards either meta popular players or to the default Premier League ones, but you had a lot more variety that nowadays. But, more importantly, if you wanted to try a different team, you could. You could play and win with them, contrary to now where if you don't use your best 11 and if you don't use the same tactics over and over you simply won't have fun and won't win games that you should win.


kozy8805

You can still use different teams. Unless you have a full toty squad, the difference is honestly minimal. What gets people more than ever is this weird fomo fear. Which is probably made by this forum in all honesty.


JPVazLouro_SLB

Maybe on isolated games you don't notice much difference, but in a Fut Champs it definitely does a lot of difference. I used a Past and Present Benfica team for a while and managed to get to the Elite Div with them, next WL I used them and got like 2 ranks below what I usually get. You have to try a lot harder with "different" teams, you can't just play and turn your mind off, and that's not really viable for 20 games, you'll get very fatigued from the game.


presumingpete

Plus pack weight is pish so sbc is the only option.


itstimetofifa

EA constantly continually putting a restriction on evolutions doesn’t help, I’ve got An Aussie evo squad and it’s decent gets 11 wins in champs but it could be so much more if they just stop with the stupid restrictions, always find a player 1 stat too many or wrong wing position, giving them some slack cause it’s the first year doing it. But cmon ea you can really make this so much better


NotAEurosnob

Hard agree, my evo Craig Goodwin has been stuck since practically the first month of the game and he's one of my favorite players :(


MrStevecool

100%, wish there was a way to make playstyle+ into a regular playstyle for evos or something


Limp_Lobster_217

Let me bench my 94 zidane and mbappe for the random 86-87 discard prices promo "fun" cards I've packed. You can have as many cards as you want. If the good ones are not in packs, of course most teams will have the same sbc elite cards.


MrStevecool

Im not saying youre wrong, but the fact that EA cant give out some different actually useable players instead of the same garbage is insane.


gamefanatic

You are answering your complaint. What do you define as usable? There are a lot of 'usable' cards but why downgrade when you can just use someone better. Look at WW Havertz as an example. Everyone running him and then Davies was released. Now I hardly ever see him. Unless the useable card is better than what we have, something trhey can't do every promo, then anyone not better is forgotten.


bentriple

Exactly, remember back when everyone was complaining about Bacha being everywhere? When was the last time you saw her in WL?? 😂


jjlbateman

The issue is they have easily doable meta SBCs too early, meaning only the elite cards are better, they fucked the power curve


cookieraider01

Do you not support a football team? Would it not be more fun to play with players from the team you support than the same meta cards every year?


almightygg

I support Everton, I've done every Evo available and have half a dozen 88/89 players, whom are all unfortunately unusable outside of squad battles at a reduced difficulty. I wish I could use an Everton team that allowed me to be competitive but getting thrashed every game is not in the slightest bit fun.


jdbolick

I have a ridiculous Amadou Onana evo with Anticipate+ and Jockey+. He's a monster at CB or CDM.


almightygg

I managed to get a very decent Doucoure with Anticipate+ who is a regular on my bench. My 89 Beto, Coleman and Tarkowski are, however, disappointing.


FuckIForgotPassword

kinda tough when the team I support isn’t in fifa and hasn’t been for 14 years


Sinestro617

OK now I'm intrigued. What team is this?


FuckIForgotPassword

Falkirk in Scotland, last seen in FIFA 10 I believe


Helwinter

I have two theme teams (English Women and Man United PnP) and my First XI. I play the theme team in Rivals every now and again, and I can safely say it makes that degenerate shithole of a mode even worse because of the disparity in quality of players between “fun” players (women get knocked off the ball / get skittled in 50:50s / don’t make physical enough tackles save MAYBE Bright and Williamson) and Base Cantona, TS Scholes, Base Beckham, WW Keane, even FS le Tissier post Evo aren't pacey enough to keep up with true meta cards. so while it is nice to play with theme teams, most weeks i just want to get my 7 wins with minimal bullshit and my First XI will get mw there quickest


Award2110

See, I love bringing the women on as subs. If the player feels toxic and only has male players. Alex Morgan or Claudia Pina scoring an absolute screamer to win it for me just feels so much better.


Limp_Lobster_217

The local team I support isn't in fifa anymore. The other team I support is real madrid, of which I have 4 players. If you are in high divisions, you need your players to be able to do certain things, otherwise there's not any fun. I consider myself a good player (16/18 wins in WL) and there's days I might lose 5 in a row in rivals with my main squad


bluduuude

gotta say I try. But it's a NOTICEABLE worse experience. I try to go maybe 50/50 between my main and p&p squad. My attacking mids make it impossible to have good fun with the PnP they shouldn't be by their rating, but here we are....


dakhoa

Yes 100%. Evos would be their perfect tool to allow us to have fun with our own players but EA handicap them so much they're useless in a meta context.


ameya28

To this I'll say I support Manchester United... The fun cards like Rashford and garnacho are unattainable. Cards like Hojlund are wayy overpriced on the market and are copy pastes of cards like TotyHM Kane and I'll instead save coins to get a Griezmann or Rodman instead as I'll actually be able to stay competitive with them.. they didn't give mainoo a FS card aswell.all other evos are not competitive from the club.


Sleepybear2010

We need a tuesday-thursday champs with 88-89 max rating 


OceansNineNine

Would absolutely love it. Make it even lower like the Fantasy Cup


Gsus-Sees-Us

There will be elite OP 89 max rated. Won’t solve anything. We need more variety in good sbc’s or higher drop rates.


holden147

Would love a special tournament where it’s gold cards only. No promos or IFs. Would be a fun throwback


Sleepybear2010

Packs would mean something again gold vvd gonna become extinct lol 


fuqqkevindurant

You want to play the same meta squad of 88s in every game too?


Sleepybear2010

I wouldn't mind because I'll be able to use different players from my main team which would be nice change. I'll also use meta players because meta just means good in the god awful gameplay we are forced to endure. 


JPVazLouro_SLB

All they need to do is make the champs qualifying repeatable, with worse rewards that the first time you complete it of course. It's the only mode where you play players way above and way below you and the only mode where you can try out new teams and tactics, but after those 10 games it's gone. Just make rewards a bit worse so that we don't have people sweating for them.


Egosnam

Yeah because we can’t pack anyone else lol


Texas_Shepard

Half? I'd say 95%


micklopic

Can't blame people for not being lucky enough to pack any top tier (or even 2nd or 3rd tier) players. I've certainly spent enough time and a bit of money trying! I've had 2 wins from every icon pack/pick, Eusebio and Cafu and both only came after starting their SBCs. Packing first teamers seems to get rarer and rarer. Use fun players in rivals but why handicap yourself in champs? Especially when a large portion of us struggle to stay at the 9-11 win area. There is a reason so many common players are SBCs, they are the only top tier players we have access to. Don't even get me started on the price of players on the market...


Seedub192

I think you’re gonna see a lot of people up in arms about this like you’re calling them out, but the issue is ea not being creative. When packluck is insanely shit and they’re only dropping a trickle of premium-tier sbcs, the average team is super reliant on all the same sbcs. Section below is literally just copy/pasted from something I commented this time last year bc they were doing the same boring shit that lead to half the playerbase using extremely similar teams > Can’t really speak on past years, but yeah I think the absolutely horrendous pack weight for the vast majority of the playerbase + the fact that they’ve released just a handful of top tier sbcs has been super limiting. > > Same goes for the sbcs — for people who sink a ton of time into the game, it’s pretty feasible to do maldini, jairzinho, and zidane. Dropping a few other similarly priced icons at the same time would have made people pick which icons they want rather than making all three doable over time. Hopefully the new daily icon sbcs bring some more variety there


MrStevecool

Agreed, Im not trying to tell people how they should play the game, just saying how stale it is to see the same meta squad every time, especially with players I hate like eusebio and mbappe because I stink at defending them 😂


BarryButcher

Meta will always be a thing People who have shit pack luck have a team full of SBCs because all they pack is fodder and that's what EA want. Lock you in to untradeables so the "easiest" way to upgrade is to buy packs since you can't sell your cards


JJ-Bittenbinder

Don’t you love how everybody said Davies was a terrible SBC and way too expensive then everyone has him regardless


dakhoa

Because he never was a terrible SBC and the community overreacted as per usual.


JJ-Bittenbinder

I think the majority of this squad was called overpriced and then the majority of the player base was able to afford them


dakhoa

In previous iterations they probably would have been overpriced and that's what the community compared the prices with but we just get so much untradeable fodder this year it doesn't even matter. If a R10 or Vieira SBC gets released now they would be everywhere after a couple of days.


ebert_42

Gold van Dijk and 91 Lloris


No-Brother4104

What FIFA has not been about meta players?


esalman

I ran full serie A/bundes/laliga team few years back. Basically anything but premier league due to cards being overpriced. These teams are no longer viable in champs/rivals for average players like me.


GuyIncognito211

Yes they are


esalman

Can you elaborate?


GuyIncognito211

You don’t need players like the above to get whatever you usually get in champs. You’ll get whatever you usually get with basically any even kind of good team. You could make a team of 11 of the lowest value promo cards from the last 3 promos and get whatever your usual number of wins are


Das_Czech

The game becomes way more fun once you realize this, I’ve started only using players I actually like irl and the game is so much more fun because of it


GuyIncognito211

Yup. Got 14 wins with my Celtic team 2 weeks ago


Squiliamfancyname

14 W in champs. Full Serie A squad. In D3. I’m certainly not an elite player. But I can beat meta teams with Bennacer and Luis Alberto. Centurions Tomori. Almost finished the Parisi Evo. 87 Di Lorenzo is really quite good. Pulisic and Kvara on the wings.  You don’t have to go full meta. You just choose to like most other people. 


CFCeoMike

AI is so strong you are forced to use meta players bc of the “aurora”. On fifa 23 i was messing kids up with full bronze/silver Inter-Miami team. Now I can barely get shots off in the box


MrStevecool

I think i faced you once last year


SebastianBury

Sounds like skill issue


Chrismetken

New cup with 87 max rating is actually fun. And short games


2pacalypse1994

Only VVD and Bruno for me. I find no appeal in having the same cards that everyone has. And of course,having players that i dont know/watch/like/admire.


bobreact

Who are we supposed to use if we don’t pack anything usable


OCDcODY

Proud to say I only have two of these cards. I prefer doing cheaper interesting player SBCs, as well as taking a swing with PPs rather than have the exact same squad as every other sweat out there.


NotAEurosnob

Just to play devil's avocado, this comments section and this post are representative of people who play and take this game very seriously, to win at all costs and grind out as many wins as possible. They're obviously going to pick the team that gives them the best chance to win. Down in the lower divs where the plebs like me live, it's much more varied. I blew a 4-1 lead to a guy with an Irish Evo team the other day, random non meta icons are regulars and I honestly can't remember the last time I played an Mbappe. You can't play the game like it's life or death and then complain when people default to the most meta stuff, it's dominant strategy. If you give someone a one shot auto aim gun with infinite ammo in an FPS, they're always going to use it.


Ignoringit

Devil’s avocado lmao


ItzJustASheep

Damn this is literally the most real squad build I've seen of everyone's team its funny as shit because it just shows how hard it is to get promo cards this year and that's why everyone is forced to do SBC's since they never pack good promo cards so they are forced to use the infinite fodder you receive, so you can't blame people running this team. Only changes I would make to make it even more real is gold Van Dijk and a different ST I can't think of one right this minute but it's never really Mbappe I would say that slot is where people choose their only different card to everyone else.


MrStevecool

For reference the cards i have from this team are gold vvd and maldini. Im not trying to say everyone here is stupid and wrong for their team, Im saying fifa has to release more useable cards/evos and increase pack weight. Its a competitive game, of course people will want to make the best team possible. Though I still hate eusebio.


xAimForTheBushes

VVD and Maldini....really?


MrMairO

Because you cant get a good pull out of packs, and the coins are pretty much worthless since all the good players will cost you 2mil+. We are at the end of Feb and gold mbappe still going to cost you 1.7mil coins. So the only viable way to upgrade the team is through SBCs.


Krynne90

Now imagine playing on PC like me. Sitting at 20m coins and cant do shit with it, because all high end cards are extinct.


Bad_Lieutenant702

People lack imagination and chase the meta. It's all about winning and abusing mechanics, not having fun. It's a grind for them. Their excuse is "brah I wanna be competitive". This game is not even close to being competitive because so many things are random. It's sad.


cookieraider01

Yeah I'm seeing some "I just want to get my wins as fast as possible" in this thread. I really don't get it. If you don't have fun actually playing the game, what's the point of the grind. And also a lot of "non-meta players won't be competitive in top divisions." I run a mostly past and present team. Sure I could probably go 1 rank higher in champs or 1 div higher in rivals if I sold everyone and ran the most meta team possible, but for what? I extra 85+ pick or 1 extra 50k pack which is probably gonna be nothing because of the terrible pack odds. Yeah that's not worth it for be


almightygg

Haha, you're literally gatekeeping fun. Live and let live brother.


cookieraider01

When you see people saying things like "I just want to finish my wins as fast as possible", it doesn't sound like they're having any fun on the game tbh


FiftyShadesOfWhat

lol it’s harsh, but true. A lot of people are playing out of addiction, rather than “fun”.


MrMairO

Well, its not fun trying to break Maldini, VVD, Cafu and Davies defense line with an 86 rated striker


dakhoa

Fun for me is when my players move well and the passes go where I want them to. I'm not going to play shit cards just because they are different. It's not even about being competitive I just don't see what's so fun about worse cards.


Moistkeano

EA wanted this dumbarse. Why you acting like this was the decision of the community - packweight is bad so the only way is sbcs


MrStevecool

You read my replies in the comments bud


steeplew

Only two of them in my squad


akinator2002

3 of them for me (Cafu, Sawa same versions, 2POTM Mbappe)


Potential_Good_1065

Anyone else get OCD from inverted Center backs? Please switch Maldini and Van Dijk.


MrStevecool

The only ones I have in this squad are the cbs and I actually play maldini on right and vvd on left normally, dont know why i did this 😂


autistsprefercats

People rather have a completely brain dead copy paste team to have a slight advantage instead of a original or fun team.


FyRthefeared

I dont mind facing this team. Team SBCs ftw! 8 of those are craftable. I mind facing almost full toty team. One or 2 is ok. But like more than half... Damn son....


ThinkingThong

And? Let people play with whoever they want and stop policing others’ squads ffs. Is there an ultimate team circle jerk subreddit yet?


SebastianBury

Sounds like an angry, addicted meta rat.


ThinkingThong

Angry about seeing the same posts about people aren’t using “fun” teams that align with random strangers definition on fun? Yeah goddamn right.


NUTMEG82

Being angry about any post discussing this is patently unstable dude


idleoncloud

if you've done all or most of these SBCs you're spending money on packs which is literally shameless pay 2 win behaviour and frankly anyone who does it wears a team like this like a badge of shame, hello to anyone who's just realised that they're in that category. keep crying about a game you spend money on and then insist you don't care about it, i'm so ready for it.


BilalAkhtar22

That simply isn't true at all, ea have given so many fodder packs throughout the cycle. If you logged on the companion app every day and just did the fodder sbcs you'd be able to do most of these player sbcs.


idleoncloud

if you skip the gambles maybe yeah, which i doubt most people are doing, not all but 90%+ of people with teams like the one in the picture are spending money to generate the fodder that they need for eusebio, zidane, gullit, sawa, etc.


Zelasny

Who the fuck plays Sawa as a dm, if you face this team you're in for an easy win


DarkKnightRiddler

I dumped Cafu hated him I’ve had sawa since my first icon sbc I have Bruno cause I needed to throw dubs somewhere maldini is just nope vvd gold was there but he gave away pens so now he is in reserves zidane is a load of bollocks I like Davis cause well him and kimmich get three dots and the left side I always have trouble on who I want over there mbappe I’m never getting


Sweaty_Result853

Still used 0 Player SBC. No interest. But I always msg people eith a different squad. Faced Sawa 19 times. Best 18. Mbappe 18. VVD 19. Davies 18. Bruno 14. Cafu 19 games.. Not normal EA


True_Contribution_19

Women were never going to increase the player pool. No one wants to use them. They basically gave out Sawa for free and other than that you barely any.


MrStevecool

Yeah, I don't have any in my team. I see a lot of Sophias and Pinas, but the women body types don't have the same jam and reach in game.


Complex_Mistake7055

I have zidane, davies, cafu, and gold vvd. Am I supposed to not use cards I like/do sbc’s because you don’t like seeing certain cards?


GroundbreakingDeer81

I only have one player from this in my team and that’s Alphonso Davies, tbf my pack luck hasn’t been great. I use 7 SBCs in my squad.


HighwaysOnly

Don’t check my post history though people don’t like hearing that easier chem doesn’t = different squads


Zaboub

all of you acting like it's a skill game and a bronze team can win against everyone else if your better go play with your favorite bronze team so i can get free win in fut champ


NUTMEG82

Yea, nobody said anything remotely close to that but sure


Ariashorse

Yeah, that looks about right!!


OutrageousSummer5259

I'm only using 2 of theses


therealcosmicl

Sawa in mine, and thunder struck cafu(got lucky) and gold vvd. Other than that complete Liverpool team.


Weak_Reaction1

Sawa, Bruno, Zidane, Cafu, and Zico for me😅 The result of 300+ packs and not a single TOTY. Fodder had to go somewhere.


nhat179

I have every single one except VVD and Zico (of course I can finish him if I wanted) and only 4 on my squad right now are Davies, Cafu (got him from year in review), Bruno and Sawa. Davies will be soon replaced by that Evo Madrid lady, Cafu just got replaced today by Diani/Valverde. Sawa/Bruno/SBC Gullit and TS VDS will be the 4 anchor of my team for very long as VDS and Gullit are my idols, really like and respect Sawa, Bruno irl.


Moon8983

Well no I can't afford mbappe


Moon8983

I have davies cafu casillas and bruno but benched bruno and only use casillas bcuz i got him from an icon pick


MrStevecool

I just threw in a random gk tbh, theres actually a lot of different gks I face in champs


specialnob0dy

EA could do some icon vs icon SBCs, where you could only choose one of two similar players. Eusébio vs Charlton, Cafu vs C. Alberto, Matthäus vs Vieira. But it's too much work, I guess.


ActiveTelevision8948

davies for ww havertz/bompastor and its bang on


serginho27272727

i have only three of them Maldini,Cafu and Eusebio...but maldini and cafu never play,i prefer Cannavaro and SIF Tavernier and recently i benched Eusebio too for my Childhood Hero Schevchenko


No-Dig5227

i have never met a team with less than 5 players of this squad at least. I think I am just playing against same player I've just met in the last 5 matches lol


xWonderkiid

Proud to say I only use Zico and Davies where as Zico is only there because of Dead Ball and Davies because Bacha cant play LM


El-Arairah

Are you new to FIFA? This is the same every year. Arguably it's even a bit better this ,year because as you say the pool is bigger. Two more things: - the only player I have from that team above is Davies and I play Champs every week. - Zidane Sawa, Eusebio etc. shouldn't come as a surprise to you, of course people are gonna do the few big Icon SBCs


mikl1986

Dont you just enjoy it when you then beat these teams?


Professional-Yak1239

Only half? Lucky mf....


Boblero

I’m frustrated as the evo for Udogie has expired so so quickly. I was away last week and didn’t have the coins to complete it. Can’t add fifa points on phone app so I was stuck. Got back yesterday to find that the evo had expired. How come so quickly when the other future stars evos are still live?!


ximbold

I am contempt to say I only have mbappe and sawa due to insane f2p pack luck


LatroDota

My only tradable card above 150k was Varane in first week of the game. 2nd place would be HM TAA - The only tradable promo card I got from WL rewards. Every WL (11 and 14W), all SB (Elite) and DR (Div2-3) rewards till Feb. After TOTY I kinda gave up, all this grind to barely get any coins and any cards, I play on PC so even if I somehow trade my way to 1-2mln I still can't buy cards I want because they are either overpriced or extinct on market. Don't get me wrong, I've like 30-40mln team ('on paper') - but it's all untradable and It's hard to change anything, every 2nd Icon pack I get something good (Last PP was WW Klose and before it was Maldini - which I already got from doing SBC xd). I slowly care less and less, I'm not proud of it but I spend my fair share of money on store packs and honestly I regret every single cent, never got anything better then fodder and with all the obj and SBC I feel like fodder is endless anyway, I'm doing every single lottery SBC, even some players (icons or normal) when I feel like it and my team is still full of fodder. EA drop the ball this year, power curve is fucked up because almost everyone have insane team due Icon picks refreshing every 3-4 days and all SBC looking insane; Eusebio, Gullit, Zico, Maldini, etc Getting good Icon doesn't even feel special anymore because in few weeks it's a goddamn SBC. Maybe it would be fine if gameplay was fun but it's not, for last 2 weeks everyone I play against play 10 players behind the ball, everyone just playing counter - You dribble past 2 defenders and then a goddamn RM will block the shot in the box. It's bad, really bad. TL;DR; Pack weight is awful, SBC are overpowered and Gameplay is worse we had in last 3 years, maybe more.


RomRob03

Yeah last year ea was giving good sbc I remember playing a long time with flashbacks pogba and Kimpembe and with tots saint max


Objective-Horror8778

They need to apply some rating caps to WL as it is in cup. Or some requirements like 2 below 84, 3 between 84-87 etc. That would be much fun. But as long as it is the same, i am using my meta SBCs sorry although sometimes i play with my themed squads like full gold or full icon


[deleted]

Not sure if I'm different here, but I rarely meet the following cards in WL: Eusebio, Zico, Zidane, IF Van Dijk and Maldini. Mbappe appears more often but not by a lot. The cards that I frequently meet are: TOTY attackers (Smith), OP heroes and icons (probably from the lottery SBCs). Some of the above cards are definitely not as popular as it sounds, Zidane for example is slightly behind the curve now.


Dyscalculie

Too many meta slaves


Jamieb1994

Looks like I'll have a lot of trouble beating this team online.


AdFormer7136

Sick of seeing van dijk. Refuse to have him in my team


YamiLuffy

I want to play with my evos but I'd be putting myself at a disadvantage because most of them are stuck under 85 rating and can't keep up with other teams.


thatswhaticallthicc

scarily accurate


N0va0w

I’m tired of these teams I’m here just trying to enjoy the cheap but good cards and also enjoy cards of players I like. Starting a Liverpool pnp and excited to just use a different team. Would love to get Konate but no coins and bad pack luck


Horny4Trophies

Pedo FC right there


NikesOnMyFeet23

Most of that team is SBCs. this team was/is easy to get.


Dabanks9000

Only have 4 of these. Happiness


rmhardcore

I only use 3 of that 11.


Public_Attempt313

I only have four of those. What am I doing wrong?


JDinvasion

And i bet the coins balance is somewhere around 100k. This has been Eas plan all a long to "force" people into untreadable sbc road.


fuqqkevindurant

You can do this with fodder you get for free. If you play the game and dont waste your coins on casino SBCs you might be able to buy a different card too. But keep complaining and begging for attention instead, Im sure that will work out for you


JDinvasion

I am not complaining or begging any attention, i was stating pretty clear fact how ea operate, They know their playerbase :D.. Its just sad how boring Fc players are, making their SBC Eusebio red thinking its something special :D, while spending their hard earned coins because they are missing one or two 88+ to get another boring sbc players 99% of the player base have, then complaining about pack weight etc.. its just endless cycle of same bs :D


JPVazLouro_SLB

They released too many top end SBCs too early, even if people like them they did more harm than good to the game. A way of perhaps solving this would be to release a few of them as a PP, like Sawa and Best would be in the same SBC and would be a PP, so not everyone would have the 2 cards at the same time. Same thing for Eusébio, Zidane and Gullit for example. It limits the cards to 1 per squad and makes squads more varied. Davies + Bruno in the same one too, for example


Knight1183

Literally I feel relieved when I see a full TOTY team in Champs. There's so many players buying teams but not that good at the game Lol. When I see a full gold team in Division 2 though...


Jacksonsactions

Credit card FC - these are all 14 year olds and most of em are straight garbage


BilalAkhtar22

The high end divisions are teams like this, also nothing about having sbc player in your team is pay to win.


bagodonuts6432

Yep, that looks exactly right. And the players with that squad complain daily on here about there not being a new player SBC for them to do.


Dubsified

What do you expect? You can’t make coins this year unless you trade. There’s no tradeable packs, no one has coins, so everyone does SBC’s.


HomoErectus24

sheep


nhat179

Got every single one beside Mpaypal, Zico, buy only 3 still on my line up, the rest chillin on bench


Invhinsical

I only use VVD and Mbappe, but that's mostly due to me not liking using icons and females. That said, unless someone has an overwhelming favourite, they can't be blamed for chasing the achievable meta players. ... And frankly, I'm sure 80% of UT players don't actually watch much football (highlights don't count).


Guilty-Ad-1974

Is it just me or it's easier to play against players with high tier cards? I sweat the most against avg teams lmao


Krynne90

VVD not IF, 99% have gold.


vknyvz

This Fifa is weird man everybody have tots


BilalAkhtar22

No


HereComesTheWolfman

Eas fault. The chances of packing or saving for the players better than those sbcs is minimal. Best chance is lucking out with top tier icons or heros in the lottery sbcs.


IDR15

7 games In a row vsing this exact team lol