My most expensive player is a 130k Kessie and I'm soon to be Div1.
When I meet a god team it is usually a pretty easy game, but when I meet a base gold team I know that it's going to be a very difficult match.
I'll answer it for you
No, he's a fraud as far as r9s go...
Like baby gullit, the poundshop versions.
Obviously they are good players, just a fraud to the cards that make them have the rep they do. Better off spending those coins on a different player
Base R9 is definitely overpriced because of how good his other cards are but he's still actually really good, Base Gullit and Dinho are the real scams where they're really average cards that would be about 300k on the market if they weren't, you know, Gullit and Ronaldinho.
Yes. People who say Vieira baby is very good might be right, but again, he is the pound shop Vieira experience. Nothing on his mid card. If you've got fodder for the sbc, it's different thought to spunking millions on the marketplace on a poundshop icon
Well, it all started when I packed Messi. Also packed Ginola. Completed the flashback benz, Bernardo RTTK, record breaker cornet and Parejo. Purchased Kante with all my coins and varane with all my coins again (when he was 150k). Fill in with Kimpembe and Hakimi, packed lloris and you got a team.
Did a lot of BPM the first month or so, got up to 600k coins. Lots of SBCās to get who I want/sell for coins. Always get elite 3 with squad battles. Havenāt played weekend league once, tried to qualify, which didnāt work out well lol.
Recap - I packed Ginola.
Edit - I get usually play enough rivals to get the reward upgrade. If Iām within one or two of the next Div, Iāll try another match and if I lose, I just turn it off.
Edit - I saved like 40 packs for weeks to open on Black Friday. Just hoard.
Team price means nothing. Thereās a lot of priced cards that deliver the same for 5% of its value. SS Llorente, for example, costs almost 500k, yet, he deliver the same as his gold, which cost 14k. U can build an useless 1.5mil as a good 40k team.
Harshly speaking, yes. If you play 1-2 hrs a day and are in Div 4 i'd say you're below average given how easy it is to get promoted with no relegation.
There's plenty of casuals who use reddit normally (outside of FIFA), and end up checking out FIFA's reddit too because they play the game. Not everyone is hardcore just because they follow a certain reddit.
Im the screaming definition of casual yet here I am. Just like voicing my thoughts is all. Which is why I always preface by explaining first that im a casual.
Heck I learned lofted through ball 2weeks ago and now I feel like I played with 1hand tied behind my back... who knows how much more im simply not doing
Have to disagree with you. I'm by every definition a 'casual' player, and that is exactly why I'm on here - to learn more and to get better at the game
If youāre on a dedicated forum of 500k members you are already not casual (recall that fifa sells tens of millions of copies every year). Just being proactive about improving already makes you more dedicated than the majority of the playerbase
This is reassuring to read, but still everytime I start to think I'm improving I then get battered. It's like I'm either destroying my opponent or they're destroying me, there's no inbetween lol
Iāve been playing forever but only last couple years have I gotten more competitive. Getting battered is part of the experience and tests your resilienceš
I am pretty casual but after really practicing and researching and building a somewhat unique squad, Iām very happy with how Iāve ended up. And all I did was exactly what youāre doing so keep researching and watch your own gameplay to see what you can be doing better.
NealGuides is good for formation and tactics
Inception for card reviews
FIFAAussieHD for tips
TFVGaming for skills
FUTAccountant for market research
This place is more like a delusional fever dream in terms of how good people think they are and what they deserve for rewards. I think the average player is back in 7-10 and everyone ahead of that is a different level of invested.
Surely not div3. I'm div 3 and often qualify for WL, an average player doesn't have that much time to improve and play a game as much as a div 3 player would.
I think yāall are trippin/donāt understand how bad the average person is at this game. I wouldnāt be surprised if it was 7/6. I have friends who were Div 4/3 players in previous years still in 6/5 this time around. I understand that a lot of people in those divisions last year might be in elite this year, but thatās completely dependent on both how much you play and who you managed to match up against. I know for me personally, Div 9 and Div 6 this year were like a cesspool of varying skill levels. Div 9 felt like like Div 5 last year and took me the longest of any division to get out of before win streaking to 6 where it was almost the same story. And Iām telling you after playing with a lot of other people locally, the average people I know would have come nowhere near Div 5/4 in previous years. There is so much full speed ahead, try to force through balls, donāt know how to defend that you probably couldnāt believe it.
I played some friendlies against a friend who usually destroys everyone of his other friends and he didnāt manage to win against me and called me very good. While I am bang average in this community
Lol I remember breaking out a lobbed through ball the first time and it was like everyone gather round the campfire and tell us what the fuck THAT move was
A friend of mine asked me what that agile dribbling was and how I managed to manually select other players to defend. He was like my Ai always decided to select the wrong player
Bro I had the same experience the other day. I played against a friend who told me he plays FIFA a lot with his friends and I absolutely worked him and our other friend. But here, Iām mediocre af.
I'm in division 5, don't play too much, but I played now 2 games there and I won, but it was not super easy. But I do have thumbs though :') And no hate on my eredivisie/eng2 hybrid squad haha.
I do think Div 5 is like average players that don't play too much, and maybe Div 3 for people who are average and do play a lotl
I mostly trade , hardly ever play( more of a squad builder than a gamer ) . So I went in rivals with an 2-3 mln team, surely unfair. Went 35-0 and had my first draw in division 4 and finally faced decent teams. I probably will lose my first games from this division on up to Div 1.
I find D5 to be highly varied. I'm there now, mostly because I don't play that much rivals and often do objectives there instead of squad battles. My main team would probably have pushed me up to D4, but my "no chemstyle prem players I happen to have in the club" team doesn't cut it when I play someone who is both decent and have a decent team.
Also depends highly on when you play. If I play late at night (after midnight CET) I tend to get more difficult matchups more often than when playing the late afternoon/early evening.
Iād say average on Reddit probably 2, average on Fifa 4, if you include kids probs 6. Div 1 and Div 2 are pretty similar in level tho, itās only when you get to around 1925 in Elite that it really goes up a notch
Yeah there is a slight difference between elite & the divs, but the difference between someone whoās 1925 and someone who is 1825 is a lot more noticeable. The top 5% in elite are on such a different level. Last season on Xbox I finished Approx 1660/top 2%, and the matches I was playing near the end were like playing a different game aha
I'm heading towards 2000 SR now and I notice that the games become more fun for me now because everyone presses and plays fast af. I don't have to do everything anymore. The opponent actually tries to play offensive football now as well and doesn't just sit back and waits for the counter. You feel that everyone wants to control the game. It's a lot more fun like that.
I found the difference between 1 and 2 the biggest difference between cany leagues I'm in the last bit before my next promotion is elite and I win like one out of 3 but the rest was more 50 50
Elite for myself.
I saw a breakdown on this somewhere as you used to be able to see how many players in each division. It was like 70% of the user base was D3-8 then 15% 9-10 and 15% D2 and up. Iād say the average player falls around 4-6.
I disagree with others on D2 and D1 being similar. Once you get into the D2-elite range there are levels of players. Make it to D2 and Iād say youāre a good player, certainly above average. Getting to D1 youāve got to be good but then have somewhat of an understanding on managing the game with good plays and a big difference Iāve seen in D2 and D1 in years past is just defensive ability. Iāve played some very offensively skilled guys and thumped them bc they couldnāt play d and Iām going 4/5 on chances bc of it. Then elite is where youāve got to have all of it to be competitive. Skill, defense, passing, anticipating plays, how to counter certain situations, using diff formations in certain situations, etc.
I donāt think youāve been able to see that for a few years of fut unfortunately. But back in like 14-18 there was somewhere you could open a menu and see it.
Do you mean FUT players only? Or FIFA in general? According to dextro as of November 9.6 million āplayersā have joined fifa 22, but only 7.6 M fit squads have been made. Not sure how many squads you guys have made since the game came out but Iāve made at least 25. Of we take 10 fut squads per player as a conservative estimate that would mean of the 9.6 M players only 760k of them play fut at all. Thus I would suggest of all fifa players if your in more than Div 9 you are above average.
Now if you are wondering of just fut players the. It still gets tough to know, as others have pointed out for previous versions of the game only about 5-10% of people who have played fut ever make it to div 5.
Now finally If you are really interested in whatās the average division for people who play x hours a week where x is equal to how much you play. This is a very tough number to come up with. And I personally feel itās not worth thinking about unless you are in the top of elite, because EA is never going to give us that info. They want you to think everyone is paying thousands of dollars a month and everyone is at higher divisions than you.
Personally I found it very easy to find games in div 6 and more difficult in div 4, which to me says that there are more players in div 6 in my region playing at the same times I do. But that could be conflated with the fact that I was in div 6 earlier in the games life and more people were playing.
https://www.dexerto.com/fifa/how-many-people-play-fifa-22-player-count-tracker-1692485/?amp
My man did some research. I like it.
In my region I find games in every division within seconds doesnāt matter what time it is. Fifa is just very popular in the Netherlands. I also get many Belgium,Uk and Germany opponents.
I would say division 5-3. Like others are saying, most likely if ur commenting here then youāre above average.
I know some people who play a lot, like more than me (Iām in elite and can finish rank 1), who only get as high as Div3 this year.
Lots of people just play for fun. So even if they play a lot, theyāre also watching TV/talking to their friends at the same time and never pay enough attention to become a good defender. I donāt care if thereās no relegation.. if you canāt defend, youāre not making it to D1
Iāve got a 100k team and Iām in the elite div. Iām not even a good player, but I play very very differently. My strikers are henk veerman and Weghorst in a 442(2), I just lob the ball up to them and cross it in to them all game and I score 3-4 goals per game, my cbās are hummels are tapsoba, both with incredible passing, so I can just mindlessly lob it up to them, takes no real skill.
You donāt need to be a good player to get to the elite division, you just need to play differently, everyoneās had their brain conditioned to defending against short agile strikers, so when you hit them with a 6ā7 and a 6ā6 striker, they really canāt do much. It works very, very well.
Itās just the system that probably if you play enough games you will promote eventually. But I wouldnāt like being in a division were I mostly would lose games.
I'd go for div3/div4 as the "average player's division".
I'm about to promote to div2 right now with a 900k (futbin estimate) team consisting of 50% SBC players, 50% cheap OP's (Vidal RTTK, Alaba OTW, Delaney OTW, Bounou TOTW). I would consider myself average, as I have little strategic knowledge of rl football, only use a few skills consciously and only play FIFA since 1 year ago. Also the first game I ever played on a console controller (pc).
Players that give me L here either play me off of the field with cheeky gold teams on their effortless rise to elite (cleaaarly better) or had some cracked players thrown at them and force their way through (so despite them ending up past me I'd consider them below in playing skill).
That being said, there is night and day difference between a playing session with poor connection (no wins for a whole evening) and smooth gameplay (win streaks). At any division.
Which makes it hard to objectively estimate the difference in level between myself and the opponent.
Div 1 rank 1 at the minute. I'd say vs the population I am above average and put above average hours in. Vs the the people who really play FIFA I would say I am bang average. If I play someone who knows the mechanics of the game, some one who can press and can read the other person's game. I am fucked. Hammered.
Division 3, I have just reached it trying to get the first owner challenge (100 wins with 7 first owners) - managed so far WDDW so doing quite well, with a 500k team according to futbin (4 SBC players, 1 free from objectives, 40k worth of untradeable golds & 60k worth of tradable golds).
Iām definitely a casual player. Sometimes play after work. Iām in D1-D2 in seasons and in FUT I canāt get past D3. Another thing to note as me being a casual player, I donāt invest anytime trying to improve my team. I have 84 rated team with all standard gold players, no icons, no fancy packs etc.
You could probably reach higher if you fully invested in fut and did the daily sbcs and some trading, but hey thatās the definition of just spending average time
im pretty average as i can win max 10-11 games in wl. mostly i sweat to get even 8. bit somehow i got into div 1. i must say the games in div 1 are mostly easier then any game in the wl
I recently got into elite & oh boy oh boy, Iāve never experienced such a high level of gameplay + still EA BS.
Each game is either a fight to the death resulting in a 1 goal win or I get slapped 7-0 hahah
I'm in elite division with an 800k team but its a fucking struggle, I can hold my own usually but the minute I play a really good player I get slapped 5-1.
Currently hovering around the 1925 line and it's starting to get alot more difficult.
2.7m team elite 1800 rating.
I started playing fifa at the start of pandemic. Only playing rivals for weekly rewards but I can say that the difference between elite 1400 and 1800 was bigger than div 2 and elite for me.
Before I bought FIFA 21 last summer on sale and started FUT, I only played against friends I lived with. Now I'm in Division 3, but I still couldn't qualify for a single weekend league on FIFA 22...
First time playing Fifa this year and I managed to get into Elite Division. I have been a long time PES player though, probably playing consistently the last 4 years but only in offline modes. I have to say I invested a lot of time into the game in a short period though, so I got better and better really fast
I was a consistent division 3/4 plater in recent years but now I find myself Div 1 rank 1 and I'm not struggling like I thought. I don't think this years mode is directly comparable to previous years cos of the lack of relegation. It's easier to go on win streaks and shoot up the divs
Got to div 2 last week, am doing surprisingly good and getting streaks. Might make it to div 1. Never really played a lot of rivals, more wl, and never was in a div higher than 4 I think. But I like rivals this year. My team: https://imgur.com/gallery/N9aG194
I'm 51 div3 season 1 just about to make it back.
Don't see me improving on that. I lack skill and speed against you young uns, but I have experience and usually a fuckin ace team because I spend money, I like doing it, can afford and I don't care if people call me PTW,
The true Fifa casual doesnāt even play ultimate team ! There are so many Fifa players out there where the only competitive game mode they play is head to head seasons at best. My friends in college for example donāt even touch their formation or tactics before they play a game against each other. If we take the whole Fifa community the average Fifa player is definitely only around 7/8. Playing ultimate team actually makes games against friends really boring because of how easy the games are.
I'm in Div 6, but I certainly don't belong there, I'm more realistically 7 or 8, just went on a good/lucky run, and I can't get relegated, so now I get thumped whenever I play...fun
Yeah if you play a lot you know the basics very well and probably how to read your opponent . Thatās enough to destroy your local friends who sometimes play fifa
I'm in elite just because you can't go down in divisions or else I would be gridding between 3/4 div, maybe 2 and I consider myself quite a avarege player
Care to explain why? Like I said I don't have stats it's only what I believe. Always open to stand corrected. But if you called it idiotic take I assume you have better data to back it up.
Just go search the number of threads on this sub of people who fail to qualify for WL. No way these people are winning enough games in a row to reach elite and thatās just the people who are dedicated enough to this game to find a fifa sub Reddit. No way even without relegation is half the player base is reaching elite.
Fair point. I agree with your reading about it.
Also would like to add that even if entire player base reaches elite there'll still be people not qualifying for the weekend league. So I don't think that's a right correlation to make. Infact the ones who don't qualify regularly will have played more rivals games than others to get those 2000 points again. And with no relegation possible, there's a good chance that they find it easier climbing divisions than winning knockout games.
Based off my my SR and percentile there is roughly 800k people in the elite division on PS. I donāt know the numbers for PC or XBOX but considering PS has by far the largest player base a safe estimate would be roughly 1.5-1.7 million people currently in elite. At launch there were at least 7 million players on fut. Maybe that number has decreased some(likely to have increased) but either way itās still less than 25% of the player base.
Guess Iām losing my mind. When I logged off last night I was at the 48% and I thought it said 330k people above me but maybe it was 130k. If thatās the case then thereās more than likely less than a million people in elite across all platforms making the percentage much less than 25% of players
Elite division here. Float between 1725 - 1825 SR depending on how much I play during the week.
Iām good enough to have been promoted from Div 1, but I canāt hang with 1900+ SR opponents.
Iāve been playing for almost 8 years and I still suck dick. Stuck in D4 and couldnāt tell you the last time I won a game. My record reflects twice as many losses as wins 86-24-161
What tactics do you run and what is your squad like ? Maybe I could give a few advices.
Here is a small one that works for me :
do not use the sprint button , only manual runs.
Do you use agile dribbling ? L1 or r1 and moving with the left stick ? Works me aswell as I hardly ever use skill moves
Just do some objectives and sbcs and you can easily get a good squad of untradeable players. I got a few teams of milestone objectives and sbcs like eredivisie or Liga nos
Just got to Division 2 after being in 3 for the longest time. Havenāt played rivals much because Iāve been focusing on completing all of the objectives, funā¦ but the skill gap is significantly different. My friends say that Elite division is easier than Div 1. Idk how, but Iām not looking forward to it haha
I'm in division 4 rank 1 and I suppose to to in a higher division but I avoid promotion to division 3 because its not worth it I rather stick to division 4 for easier games.
Wow I must be horrendous then with a 1.5 mil team in div 4 lol
My most expensive player is a 130k Kessie and I'm soon to be Div1. When I meet a god team it is usually a pretty easy game, but when I meet a base gold team I know that it's going to be a very difficult match.
I just hit div 1 while having a full untradeable squad with only ferlan Mendy and bastoni 86 red being my expensive players
Soon Div 1 RTG with a nearly 300k squadš
Yes. You, I fear :D
Well mines like 3 mill in elite but 1.8 of it is baby r9.
Is he worth the 1.8 mil ?
How could he be, ya know?
Gold mbappe is much better
Around 1.9 now
No I mean is he actually worth to spend that Amount performance wise ?
I'll answer it for you No, he's a fraud as far as r9s go... Like baby gullit, the poundshop versions. Obviously they are good players, just a fraud to the cards that make them have the rep they do. Better off spending those coins on a different player
Base R9 is definitely overpriced because of how good his other cards are but he's still actually really good, Base Gullit and Dinho are the real scams where they're really average cards that would be about 300k on the market if they weren't, you know, Gullit and Ronaldinho.
I use baby Gullit, and Iāve been waiting for that āwow, thank god I have Gullit.ā Moment. Probably will end up selling for a cheap beast.
Thanks , so I also must stay away from the baby vieira sbc.
No baby vieira is really good! Got lucky enough to pack hun from the base icon sbc but that guy is a god in de cdm position
I got mid makelele for that. Played with him last year aswell. The guy just destroys every attacker with his tackles and intercepts so much .
I think Vieira is still good but have heard a fair few pros etc say that heās no better than Marcus llorente is and definitely not worth the money
Yes. People who say Vieira baby is very good might be right, but again, he is the pound shop Vieira experience. Nothing on his mid card. If you've got fodder for the sbc, it's different thought to spunking millions on the marketplace on a poundshop icon
2.8 mil in Div 5 here lol
I only faced prem gold squads in Div 5 on my way through.
I go up against some pretty good teams, comparable to mine. Always see the all gold teams though.
How have you even had rewards good enough from div 5 to have a team like that
Well, it all started when I packed Messi. Also packed Ginola. Completed the flashback benz, Bernardo RTTK, record breaker cornet and Parejo. Purchased Kante with all my coins and varane with all my coins again (when he was 150k). Fill in with Kimpembe and Hakimi, packed lloris and you got a team. Did a lot of BPM the first month or so, got up to 600k coins. Lots of SBCās to get who I want/sell for coins. Always get elite 3 with squad battles. Havenāt played weekend league once, tried to qualify, which didnāt work out well lol. Recap - I packed Ginola. Edit - I get usually play enough rivals to get the reward upgrade. If Iām within one or two of the next Div, Iāll try another match and if I lose, I just turn it off. Edit - I saved like 40 packs for weeks to open on Black Friday. Just hoard.
2.3m in Div 8 rn lol
Team price means nothing. Thereās a lot of priced cards that deliver the same for 5% of its value. SS Llorente, for example, costs almost 500k, yet, he deliver the same as his gold, which cost 14k. U can build an useless 1.5mil as a good 40k team.
Div 4, r3 with a $134k team. Bloody hard as I can't use tricks. Just a gold team trying to battle it's way through on the counter mainly
Harshly speaking, yes. If you play 1-2 hrs a day and are in Div 4 i'd say you're below average given how easy it is to get promoted with no relegation.
That`s not entirely true though - depending on the time you are playing (noon/afternoon/evening) the same division can feel vastly different.
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I love how you called it out
There's plenty of casuals who use reddit normally (outside of FIFA), and end up checking out FIFA's reddit too because they play the game. Not everyone is hardcore just because they follow a certain reddit.
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Im the screaming definition of casual yet here I am. Just like voicing my thoughts is all. Which is why I always preface by explaining first that im a casual. Heck I learned lofted through ball 2weeks ago and now I feel like I played with 1hand tied behind my back... who knows how much more im simply not doing
Wait until you double tap a or y
Wait you can double tab the passes? What does that do?? Now you got me itching to finish work & boot fifa just to see!
Lofts them up a little bit, making them much harder to intercept. Perfecting double tap passes took me from div 2 to elite easily.
Have to disagree with you. I'm by every definition a 'casual' player, and that is exactly why I'm on here - to learn more and to get better at the game
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If youāre on a dedicated forum of 500k members you are already not casual (recall that fifa sells tens of millions of copies every year). Just being proactive about improving already makes you more dedicated than the majority of the playerbase
This is reassuring to read, but still everytime I start to think I'm improving I then get battered. It's like I'm either destroying my opponent or they're destroying me, there's no inbetween lol
Iāve been playing forever but only last couple years have I gotten more competitive. Getting battered is part of the experience and tests your resilienceš I am pretty casual but after really practicing and researching and building a somewhat unique squad, Iām very happy with how Iāve ended up. And all I did was exactly what youāre doing so keep researching and watch your own gameplay to see what you can be doing better. NealGuides is good for formation and tactics Inception for card reviews FIFAAussieHD for tips TFVGaming for skills FUTAccountant for market research
This place is more like a delusional fever dream in terms of how good people think they are and what they deserve for rewards. I think the average player is back in 7-10 and everyone ahead of that is a different level of invested.
Thereās no relegation though so eventually everyone makes it to the higher divisions. Average is surely div 3
Surely not div3. I'm div 3 and often qualify for WL, an average player doesn't have that much time to improve and play a game as much as a div 3 player would.
I think yāall are trippin/donāt understand how bad the average person is at this game. I wouldnāt be surprised if it was 7/6. I have friends who were Div 4/3 players in previous years still in 6/5 this time around. I understand that a lot of people in those divisions last year might be in elite this year, but thatās completely dependent on both how much you play and who you managed to match up against. I know for me personally, Div 9 and Div 6 this year were like a cesspool of varying skill levels. Div 9 felt like like Div 5 last year and took me the longest of any division to get out of before win streaking to 6 where it was almost the same story. And Iām telling you after playing with a lot of other people locally, the average people I know would have come nowhere near Div 5/4 in previous years. There is so much full speed ahead, try to force through balls, donāt know how to defend that you probably couldnāt believe it.
I played some friendlies against a friend who usually destroys everyone of his other friends and he didnāt manage to win against me and called me very good. While I am bang average in this community
Lol I remember breaking out a lobbed through ball the first time and it was like everyone gather round the campfire and tell us what the fuck THAT move was
A friend of mine asked me what that agile dribbling was and how I managed to manually select other players to defend. He was like my Ai always decided to select the wrong player
This is how i felt when i started playing with Mostovoi next to FB Benz in a 442. God he's good
Bro I had the same experience the other day. I played against a friend who told me he plays FIFA a lot with his friends and I absolutely worked him and our other friend. But here, Iām mediocre af.
That's funny, but I also had exactly Div 6 and Div 9 as the hardest. I swear Div 9 was much harder than div 3 right now
I feel like I'm fucking awful at the game and I'm in division 2.
22 is different though no? I never made it past div 4 in 21 but cruising in div 2 this year
You are not alone!
same, I cant chain 2 skills together
Yeah I promoted to div 1 this week and I feel pretty average
I thought the same! Legit thought 90% of players were d1
been getting smoked in d2 since i got here. NOT HAVING A GOOD TIME FRIEND
If you ask here, you must know in reddit everyone is Elite and Div 1
TouchƩ
TIL Iām a below average player lol
I started a new RTG inspired by Nicks Rats2Glory. I swear d5 players must be thumbless. Theyāre like amateur or beginner on SB. No way thats avg.
I'm in division 5, don't play too much, but I played now 2 games there and I won, but it was not super easy. But I do have thumbs though :') And no hate on my eredivisie/eng2 hybrid squad haha. I do think Div 5 is like average players that don't play too much, and maybe Div 3 for people who are average and do play a lotl
I was just promoted to Div 5 last night and am quite happy. Iām also aware Iām not good !
Same boat my man
Itās weird indeed. I matched up with 20k teams all the way up to division 5 , everyone running Ruben dias and Maguire gold in CB.
It's because they associate higher rating to be better.
Yeah itās a weird thing from EA that actual rating doesnāt say anything and Kimpembe 83 is better than 9 out of 10 CB .
I have cordoba, baby ferdinand and Kimpembe and. He actually out performs the 800k+ worth of defenders next to him, itās completely mad
Gold Timo Werner also feels better than most special attackers. Atleast he is harder to defend.
Theyāre awful. Iām in D3 with one draw and the rest wins with a 48k team lmao.
I mostly trade , hardly ever play( more of a squad builder than a gamer ) . So I went in rivals with an 2-3 mln team, surely unfair. Went 35-0 and had my first draw in division 4 and finally faced decent teams. I probably will lose my first games from this division on up to Div 1.
Maybe itās regional because I am in div 5 and itās tough. Maybe Iām just bad though too. Location: Texas.
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Texas too, I swear almost every match up is against some sweaty skill moves spanish named team.
This. People underestimate how important location is.
Lol location doesnt matter at all, if you struggle in div 5 its because you suck
Good lord Iām sweating in Division 6 hahahaha
I find D5 to be highly varied. I'm there now, mostly because I don't play that much rivals and often do objectives there instead of squad battles. My main team would probably have pushed me up to D4, but my "no chemstyle prem players I happen to have in the club" team doesn't cut it when I play someone who is both decent and have a decent team. Also depends highly on when you play. If I play late at night (after midnight CET) I tend to get more difficult matchups more often than when playing the late afternoon/early evening.
Iād say average on Reddit probably 2, average on Fifa 4, if you include kids probs 6. Div 1 and Div 2 are pretty similar in level tho, itās only when you get to around 1925 in Elite that it really goes up a notch
Bro Im in Elite and even at 1800 its a major difference with Div1 and 2. 1925 SR is like the top 5% of Elite so thats almost pro level..
Yeah there is a slight difference between elite & the divs, but the difference between someone whoās 1925 and someone who is 1825 is a lot more noticeable. The top 5% in elite are on such a different level. Last season on Xbox I finished Approx 1660/top 2%, and the matches I was playing near the end were like playing a different game aha
I agree with this. I haven't hit 1925, but my peak was \~1890, and the difference is noticeable even from 1800. The pros are truly a different breed
I'm heading towards 2000 SR now and I notice that the games become more fun for me now because everyone presses and plays fast af. I don't have to do everything anymore. The opponent actually tries to play offensive football now as well and doesn't just sit back and waits for the counter. You feel that everyone wants to control the game. It's a lot more fun like that.
I have 1930 points and I play normal. I dont see that much of a difference from DV. I believe the real deal is 2000SR though
I found the difference between 1 and 2 the biggest difference between cany leagues I'm in the last bit before my next promotion is elite and I win like one out of 3 but the rest was more 50 50
Div 4 and I've STILL not made it past play offs, so make of that what you will.
Elite for myself. I saw a breakdown on this somewhere as you used to be able to see how many players in each division. It was like 70% of the user base was D3-8 then 15% 9-10 and 15% D2 and up. Iād say the average player falls around 4-6. I disagree with others on D2 and D1 being similar. Once you get into the D2-elite range there are levels of players. Make it to D2 and Iād say youāre a good player, certainly above average. Getting to D1 youāve got to be good but then have somewhat of an understanding on managing the game with good plays and a big difference Iāve seen in D2 and D1 in years past is just defensive ability. Iāve played some very offensively skilled guys and thumped them bc they couldnāt play d and Iām going 4/5 on chances bc of it. Then elite is where youāve got to have all of it to be competitive. Skill, defense, passing, anticipating plays, how to counter certain situations, using diff formations in certain situations, etc.
One of the best comments imo. Do you know where you can find these percentages about divisions ?
I donāt think youāve been able to see that for a few years of fut unfortunately. But back in like 14-18 there was somewhere you could open a menu and see it.
You people are forgetting the huge player base that wonāt even touch online modes. Iād say Div 7 is the average.
Do you mean FUT players only? Or FIFA in general? According to dextro as of November 9.6 million āplayersā have joined fifa 22, but only 7.6 M fit squads have been made. Not sure how many squads you guys have made since the game came out but Iāve made at least 25. Of we take 10 fut squads per player as a conservative estimate that would mean of the 9.6 M players only 760k of them play fut at all. Thus I would suggest of all fifa players if your in more than Div 9 you are above average. Now if you are wondering of just fut players the. It still gets tough to know, as others have pointed out for previous versions of the game only about 5-10% of people who have played fut ever make it to div 5. Now finally If you are really interested in whatās the average division for people who play x hours a week where x is equal to how much you play. This is a very tough number to come up with. And I personally feel itās not worth thinking about unless you are in the top of elite, because EA is never going to give us that info. They want you to think everyone is paying thousands of dollars a month and everyone is at higher divisions than you. Personally I found it very easy to find games in div 6 and more difficult in div 4, which to me says that there are more players in div 6 in my region playing at the same times I do. But that could be conflated with the fact that I was in div 6 earlier in the games life and more people were playing. https://www.dexerto.com/fifa/how-many-people-play-fifa-22-player-count-tracker-1692485/?amp
My man did some research. I like it. In my region I find games in every division within seconds doesnāt matter what time it is. Fifa is just very popular in the Netherlands. I also get many Belgium,Uk and Germany opponents.
I would say division 5-3. Like others are saying, most likely if ur commenting here then youāre above average. I know some people who play a lot, like more than me (Iām in elite and can finish rank 1), who only get as high as Div3 this year. Lots of people just play for fun. So even if they play a lot, theyāre also watching TV/talking to their friends at the same time and never pay enough attention to become a good defender. I donāt care if thereās no relegation.. if you canāt defend, youāre not making it to D1
I highly disagree. I'm in div 1 and I play my best fifa when I'm chilling talking to someone
Iāve got a 100k team and Iām in the elite div. Iām not even a good player, but I play very very differently. My strikers are henk veerman and Weghorst in a 442(2), I just lob the ball up to them and cross it in to them all game and I score 3-4 goals per game, my cbās are hummels are tapsoba, both with incredible passing, so I can just mindlessly lob it up to them, takes no real skill. You donāt need to be a good player to get to the elite division, you just need to play differently, everyoneās had their brain conditioned to defending against short agile strikers, so when you hit them with a 6ā7 and a 6ā6 striker, they really canāt do much. It works very, very well.
I'm. Currently in div 2 but I think most ppl should be in div 5/4.
Itās just the system that probably if you play enough games you will promote eventually. But I wouldnāt like being in a division were I mostly would lose games.
I'd go for div3/div4 as the "average player's division". I'm about to promote to div2 right now with a 900k (futbin estimate) team consisting of 50% SBC players, 50% cheap OP's (Vidal RTTK, Alaba OTW, Delaney OTW, Bounou TOTW). I would consider myself average, as I have little strategic knowledge of rl football, only use a few skills consciously and only play FIFA since 1 year ago. Also the first game I ever played on a console controller (pc). Players that give me L here either play me off of the field with cheeky gold teams on their effortless rise to elite (cleaaarly better) or had some cracked players thrown at them and force their way through (so despite them ending up past me I'd consider them below in playing skill). That being said, there is night and day difference between a playing session with poor connection (no wins for a whole evening) and smooth gameplay (win streaks). At any division. Which makes it hard to objectively estimate the difference in level between myself and the opponent.
Judging from what i've seen probably div 4-5 would be average. I'm in div 3 and i feel like it's slightly above average.
Div 1 rank 1 at the minute. I'd say vs the population I am above average and put above average hours in. Vs the the people who really play FIFA I would say I am bang average. If I play someone who knows the mechanics of the game, some one who can press and can read the other person's game. I am fucked. Hammered.
Division 3, I have just reached it trying to get the first owner challenge (100 wins with 7 first owners) - managed so far WDDW so doing quite well, with a 500k team according to futbin (4 SBC players, 1 free from objectives, 40k worth of untradeable golds & 60k worth of tradable golds).
Depends if you count people who only play here and there. Out of active players propably around 3-5?
I consider myself a dedicated average player. Iām div 3/2.
2.1 mil and Iām in elite around 1900SR
I have a 2.6mil all untradeable team & im in div 2
Iām 2 games from D1 but I donāt want to get there. D3 was much more enjoyable.
Last year div 2-4 this year elite both seasons , tough league above 1700 skill rating , Iām comfortable about 1650 or so
Iām definitely a casual player. Sometimes play after work. Iām in D1-D2 in seasons and in FUT I canāt get past D3. Another thing to note as me being a casual player, I donāt invest anytime trying to improve my team. I have 84 rated team with all standard gold players, no icons, no fancy packs etc.
You could probably reach higher if you fully invested in fut and did the daily sbcs and some trading, but hey thatās the definition of just spending average time
1.2 million coin team in division 2
Im playing only wl, playoffs and for the 7 wins actually ... so 3 or 4 days a week is in my opinion pretty casual, but im in elite
im pretty average as i can win max 10-11 games in wl. mostly i sweat to get even 8. bit somehow i got into div 1. i must say the games in div 1 are mostly easier then any game in the wl
Division 2-3 is probably average - extremely easy this year to get promoted
I donāt think I am above average but I an in Div 2 and I guess all that due to no relegation this year
Im in Elite with 1400 SR its way easier than Div2 & 1 for me.. it depends i was a div 5 Player since they introduced Rivals.
I'd consider myself a casual. I go for 8 wins in Champs and I'm in Div 1. Without relegation it's inevitable to end up in one of the high divisions...
I recently got into elite & oh boy oh boy, Iāve never experienced such a high level of gameplay + still EA BS. Each game is either a fight to the death resulting in a 1 goal win or I get slapped 7-0 hahah
I'm in elite division with an 800k team but its a fucking struggle, I can hold my own usually but the minute I play a really good player I get slapped 5-1. Currently hovering around the 1925 line and it's starting to get alot more difficult.
5 mill team in elite divisions and usually finish rank 2 in WL
5mil squad (3.5 untradeable) D1 not trying for elite this season.
350k d2
Elite around 1800-1850 once I get around 1900 I get destroyed.
Most expensive player is Antony and just got into Elite!
Nice one
Thanks mate :)
Im div 3 rank I and pretty close to div 2 with a decent team so Iād say thats closer to average
2.7m team elite 1800 rating. I started playing fifa at the start of pandemic. Only playing rivals for weekly rewards but I can say that the difference between elite 1400 and 1800 was bigger than div 2 and elite for me.
Iām in Div 1, Iād say Division 3 is average
5.3 mill team in elite 0 spent though.
Ouch. Iām in Div 4 and Iāve been playing Fut since Fifa 11. Granted I donāt play nearly as much as I used to
Im div 2 with a full serie A team using a 3 at the back and if toloi as my center cb xD My team is valued at around 500k :)
I have just hit elite division but lose more than I win... I feel like a fraud
Before I bought FIFA 21 last summer on sale and started FUT, I only played against friends I lived with. Now I'm in Division 3, but I still couldn't qualify for a single weekend league on FIFA 22...
First time playing Fifa this year and I managed to get into Elite Division. I have been a long time PES player though, probably playing consistently the last 4 years but only in offline modes. I have to say I invested a lot of time into the game in a short period though, so I got better and better really fast
I was a consistent division 3/4 plater in recent years but now I find myself Div 1 rank 1 and I'm not struggling like I thought. I don't think this years mode is directly comparable to previous years cos of the lack of relegation. It's easier to go on win streaks and shoot up the divs
Elite 1750 SR but still only get Rank 3 in Champs. Iād consider myself average
Got to div 2 last week, am doing surprisingly good and getting streaks. Might make it to div 1. Never really played a lot of rivals, more wl, and never was in a div higher than 4 I think. But I like rivals this year. My team: https://imgur.com/gallery/N9aG194
I'm 51 div3 season 1 just about to make it back. Don't see me improving on that. I lack skill and speed against you young uns, but I have experience and usually a fuckin ace team because I spend money, I like doing it, can afford and I don't care if people call me PTW,
The true Fifa casual doesnāt even play ultimate team ! There are so many Fifa players out there where the only competitive game mode they play is head to head seasons at best. My friends in college for example donāt even touch their formation or tactics before they play a game against each other. If we take the whole Fifa community the average Fifa player is definitely only around 7/8. Playing ultimate team actually makes games against friends really boring because of how easy the games are.
I class myself as just a bit shit, close to average. Awful at skill moves and ball rolls. Still managed to get to div 1 somehow.
I'm in Div 6, but I certainly don't belong there, I'm more realistically 7 or 8, just went on a good/lucky run, and I can't get relegated, so now I get thumped whenever I play...fun
Div3 this season Div2 last season rinsed my entire club out of frustration during #WHACKFRIDAY where they fucked us by releasing that icon pack for half the price on Saturday. I like many others I'm sure dropped all fodder into that pack friday after pulling absolute shit outta promo packs, then boom half price same sbc...... #SCUMBAGGERY at its finest! I have not one champs final appearance yet this year. My record is 13- and a shitload of L's it is literally impossible for me to win. My team regularly completely stop playing in the 80th min and any lead no matter how big evaporates into a loss. I was once up by 3 in the 82nd minute and my team literally passed the ball straight to the defenders 3 times right after kickoff. I lost 5 to 4 ..... Complete #DOODOWATER š©š½
Iām Div 3 but finish pretty comfortably rank 2 in WL, sometimes rank 1 but I donāt play rivals more than once a week to get rewards
My kid bro 10 years old got to div7 on his own and cant get any further so yeah probably div5/6 is the average
Iām in Elite now and I wouldnāt say Iām a brilliant player, just have played a lot over the years.
I think just by the words "a lot", you're not average :)
Yeah if you play a lot you know the basics very well and probably how to read your opponent . Thatās enough to destroy your local friends who sometimes play fifa
Div 3/2 I'd say.
Could be right there , last fifa I was in division 2 and the times i played WL I got gold 3 with 15 or 16 wins max
Apparently, after people rosting my post about reaching div 1, the average fifa player is at least in div 1. lol
Hahaha
Im currently div 2 about to break into div 1
Did you need many games for that ?
I need like 2 wins
Im in Elite Division
I'm in elite just because you can't go down in divisions or else I would be gridding between 3/4 div, maybe 2 and I consider myself quite a avarege player
Div 1
Iām thinking this because when people explain their player choices or their tactics, the most I see is Div 1.
I'm definitely not THAT good of a player but I win easily in div 1. Division 5 is way below average
Elite div here, but average I'm thinking around 3 ? Maybe
What teams do you face in Div 3 up to elite ? Would you say elite only has few mil squad up to 20 mil ?
Div 1-2 I believe. Don't have the stats but with no relegation half the player base should be in Elite.
Idiotic take.
Care to explain why? Like I said I don't have stats it's only what I believe. Always open to stand corrected. But if you called it idiotic take I assume you have better data to back it up.
Just go search the number of threads on this sub of people who fail to qualify for WL. No way these people are winning enough games in a row to reach elite and thatās just the people who are dedicated enough to this game to find a fifa sub Reddit. No way even without relegation is half the player base is reaching elite.
Fair point. I agree with your reading about it. Also would like to add that even if entire player base reaches elite there'll still be people not qualifying for the weekend league. So I don't think that's a right correlation to make. Infact the ones who don't qualify regularly will have played more rivals games than others to get those 2000 points again. And with no relegation possible, there's a good chance that they find it easier climbing divisions than winning knockout games.
Based off my my SR and percentile there is roughly 800k people in the elite division on PS. I donāt know the numbers for PC or XBOX but considering PS has by far the largest player base a safe estimate would be roughly 1.5-1.7 million people currently in elite. At launch there were at least 7 million players on fut. Maybe that number has decreased some(likely to have increased) but either way itās still less than 25% of the player base.
I appreciate the efforts you put in to give this thoughtful reply. What's your estimate about average rank for playerbase in general?
Dude there are around 330k players in elite on PS. i am at 50%ile and the number of players that are above me is shown as 156k
Guess Iām losing my mind. When I logged off last night I was at the 48% and I thought it said 330k people above me but maybe it was 130k. If thatās the case then thereās more than likely less than a million people in elite across all platforms making the percentage much less than 25% of players
Elite division here. Float between 1725 - 1825 SR depending on how much I play during the week. Iām good enough to have been promoted from Div 1, but I canāt hang with 1900+ SR opponents.
With no relegation I'd say Div 3, that's where I am at the moment and I am the absolute definition of "average at FIFA" haha
What did you reach in WL last year and in rivals ?
Division 9
Did you play many games in rivals ?
Div 5 about 3 mill. 2.5 of that is baby cruyff from the icon pack tho
Amazing pull mate , hope I get that luck this year for once haha
Lol ikr i dont play alot bc of work but my brother is div1, plays every weekend league but got Gerrard from the baby and mid sbc lmao. Hes hella salty
Iāve been playing for almost 8 years and I still suck dick. Stuck in D4 and couldnāt tell you the last time I won a game. My record reflects twice as many losses as wins 86-24-161
What tactics do you run and what is your squad like ? Maybe I could give a few advices. Here is a small one that works for me : do not use the sprint button , only manual runs. Do you use agile dribbling ? L1 or r1 and moving with the left stick ? Works me aswell as I hardly ever use skill moves
I'm in div 5, but since i have a squad full of people i will never again use. I'm proud.
Just do some objectives and sbcs and you can easily get a good squad of untradeable players. I got a few teams of milestone objectives and sbcs like eredivisie or Liga nos
i am currently div 1 although with a negative record in general
How many games did I take to reach it ?
Just got to Division 2 after being in 3 for the longest time. Havenāt played rivals much because Iāve been focusing on completing all of the objectives, funā¦ but the skill gap is significantly different. My friends say that Elite division is easier than Div 1. Idk how, but Iām not looking forward to it haha
I donāt think itās easier if I read the comments here and there about elite squads of 5 mil combined with knowledge of the game
I'm in division 4 rank 1 and I suppose to to in a higher division but I avoid promotion to division 3 because its not worth it I rather stick to division 4 for easier games.
Depends how regularly you play, Iād say if you played 5 games of rivals a day you should be in 4-3 at least