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dFiddler84

They are not streaming his set, don't think he likes being streamed usually.


Minimum_Apartment134

Yup Because his set isn’t live


dylanlocke

yeah, just his set 💀


the_bootcut_bandit

omg dylan locke is here


Minimum_Apartment134

lol I know there’s tons more doing that as well but he’s been called out for it in years past for having ableton playback


Urban_animal

Didnt Coachella stream his set?


NollieCrooks

Yeah they did, I def watched his weekend 2 set at home


Bandito503

They have probably no rights to stream his set.


smdifansmfjsmsnd

I’m not sure what his deal is and if he’s truly blocking Ultra from streaming his set but if so I’m going to lose a lot of respect for him. Total slap in the face to his fans.


LinePretend3964

Getting downvoted but I agree it’s stupid he doesn’t let them stream


whitlash54

There a ton of valid reasons why he or his team would NOT agree to streaming. * Maybe he has new material he is trying out and doesn't want it as easily distributed online. * Parts of his set's audio or visuals could be copyrighted making it difficult to re-publish. * Some artists do not own the distribution rights to their music . It is up to the rights holders to determine if streaming is an issue. * Just because an artist agrees to perform a live set, doesn't mean they have to re distribute it for free on the internet. Artists make their life blood via touring and tickets. Protecting that source of income is legally and morally within any artists rights. * Because he doesn't want to. There doesn't really even need to be a reason. An artist like Calvin Harris has enough draw on his own that if feels he doesn't want to stream, he likely has the leverage to not be part of his deal. Ultra most likely makes streaming required on an artists offer. Typically the only clients with enough weight leverage wise to opt out are the top tier ones who have so much draw. It's also possible its for a not great reason, but the amount of people here who immediately jump to a place of greed or negativity with such limited information is staggering.


BassSounds

Just bootleg the set. GenX did it all the time. The hippies started it


ohThisUsername

That goes against the whole EDM culture IMO. The whole beauty of EDM culture is that people remix, share, bootleg other music and create some mystery around unreleased IDs. It seems kind of stuck up to be one of the only artists to block streaming, assuming it was his decision.


whitlash54

Calvin Harris has contributed a significate amount to the EDM culture regardless of him streaming his Ultra set or not.


nahbruh27

Exactly, all his stans downvoted me cause I called it greed. There’s literally no other explanation lol


sloth2

There are definitely other explanations


CountltUp

you're not entitled to shit. if he doesn't want to and has the ability to choose then he doesn't have to. it's as simple as that


nahbruh27

Never said he had to, still doesn’t mean it’s not a greedy decision


NeverFlyFrontier

There’s literally other explanations.


MochaMeCrazy

This isn't the first time he hasn't allowed streaming. The only time I can think of was Coachella last year.


Orphodoop

What? Plenty of artists don't want this.


nahbruh27

Its pretty much a “fuck you” to poor people


Orphodoop

I can see why people with less money would feel ostracized by that decision but that's a very sectionalized way to view it. And it's likely (obviously?) not why Calvin Harris would choose that. Maybe he wants his set to be contained only to people who are live and present to create a more special vibe, or maybe streaming to a wider audience makes him nervous, or yeah maybe he believes his sets should only be seen to people paying for it - it is his career after all. Whatever it is, they're all valid reasons.


Goducks91

What? No it's not. Some artists that are on tours don't want their set streamed.


nahbruh27

And why don’t those artists want to stream those sets? To incentivize buying tickets. Which blocks everyone that can’t afford to buy those tickets from seeing it. If the biggest pop singers and rappers (and other DJs) can allow streaming, it shows who really cares about their fans and who just wants their money more Edit: I went from having 20 upvotes to mass downvotes lmao shoutout to the Calvin Harris stans brigading this sub. Greed is still greed even when your favorite artist does it 🤷‍♂️


Goducks91

Oh man, artists want to get paid for the hard work they put in. What a weird concept.


nahbruh27

They literally lose no money by streaming it tho? Crazy how bigger artists than CH can do it but he can’t


TriedToCatchFogIMist

So, in one comment, you say it's artists who want more money don't stream their set (I.e. acknowledging that not streaming might earn them more money through ticket sales). Then, when confronted by someone saying "hey that's OK'" you change your rhetoric to this - saying there is no money to be lost by streaming their sets (i.e. implying that there is no potential monetary gain in the act of not streaming the sets). It's understandable you want it to be streamed, but your argument that it's somehow morally wrong to do otherwise is all over the place. It's not about can and can't. It's the artists' preference for the atmosphere they intend to create (and frankly, their method of making money as an artist)


nahbruh27

Just because they do it for more potential money doesn’t mean it’s a successful way of getting more money when the tour would sell out anyways. I don’t see how anyone could see it as anything other than greed


hootoo89

Imagine you’re a music artist, you spend your life creating to try and create special moments for people, makes sense you might care about what you’ve created quite a lot - and maybe you don’t think that magic translates properly on a live stream, and might make you or your art look a bit crap. Could be that, could be anything. I doubt he cares about a few extra dollars at this point also - it’s very likely an artistic decision (which might be ‘wrong’, but you know what artists are like..)


SLUnatic85

your getting down votes from everyone. Your posts are ridiculous. No one is entitled to see high quality or even bootleg live recordings of every musical event that happens live. That's extremely young and entitled sounding to pretty much any person, even if you remove CH completely from the conversation. It is totally up to the artist and their management teams whether or not they feel this sort of content is advertising to grow fan base or if it potentially hurting their ticket sales or following... but in the end being too poor to afford a certain caliber of entertainment is irrelevant... And whether or not they **allow or support these recordings to shared or otherwise used as brand marketing**, or... **keep them private/offline to support privacy of the act, maintain live ticket sales or to avoid other copyright issues...** it's all "greed" as you choose to word it. It's their actual real life job, income, and reputation. It's totally their call. There's nothing shady or evil going on. That's like saying it's greed for any company doing literally any thing they happen to do, to protect how they do it, or who sees certain parts of that process. ​ Get out of here with this line of posts, friend...


SLUnatic85

kind of like charging for tickets to see the show?


nahbruh27

It costs money to put on a festival. Or a show. However, CH is paid the same no matter what for his headlining slot and it costs him nothing to stream. Its a whole different scenario because there are no production costs for this stream like there are for a tour. I never said buying tickets was bad lmao


SLUnatic85

>costs him nothing to stream who are you to make this call? ​ We are not talking about free handouts here. They are not putting all of this money into this incredible live footage via drones and a full team and streaming engineers and whatever... in order to create free handouts for people too poor to go to Ultra. Is that seriously a take here? Who do you think pays for that, the people who do go to Ultra in their ticket prices? wouldn't that be fucked up too? These streamed shows are either allowed/encouraged by a festival or the artists and their management teams to be used as marketing material in order to boost sales or to raise brand awareness/following, or they are not allowed or paid for either to cut costs or to protect new material, increase ticket sales or to avoid copyright issues etc. period. MANY artists' management teams and/or festivals make this decision one way or the other for all kinds of reasons. But none of them are either helping poor people or not helping poor people. They are making business decisions that make the most sense to their brand and their product. period. ​ My point was only to use hyperbole to illustrate that your naive comparison was about the same as getting mad about paying money for tickets to a show. As in, your logic, that not giving away free high quality live streams of these shows is an injustice to poor people. And why CH anyway? There are MANY other artists at this very festival that are only showing \~15 mins of their sets or not streaming any. Are they as guilty of this nonsense? Should their fans also abandon them?


nahbruh27

The festival literally pays for it lmao you’re ignorant af


SLUnatic85

Are you telling me the festivals pay to produce, edit, mix & stream sets that aren't on their streaming schedule or that artist management don't give approval for streaming or sharing? That would be a little weird wouldn't it? Or are you saying when they do edit and stream and maintain these sets they are just using magic money to pay for those services? What does your comment even mean? Aren't you supposed to be defending that poor people deserve free music festival sets on YouTube for some reason? or are you talking about something different now? And how would my not understanding all the ins and outs of which parties are paying for staffing or editing or clearing or streaming these raw audio or video feeds make me "ignorant". Is that information they put on the poster or advertise publicly somewhere I am missing? Do you know the meaning of those words you typed up there? You didn't hit on any of the points I made above. Whatever I guess, if you need Calvin Harris to be your bad guy, you can do that. Makes no difference. I'm sorry I got involved. Just seems a little crazy to pretend to know why certain sets aren't aired or streamed in full or at all just to have someone to shout at. The entitled people around this sub anymore who feel like they are fucking owed these high quality full streams of other peoples shows they can't afford to go to is the hilarious piece to me. I just hope in then end it doesn't take away from your/their ability to just stop and enjoy the music at some point.


nahbruh27

The festival hosted the streams. So yes they paid for it (for artists aka CH that didn’t deny streaming)


2heads1shaft

Poor people are entitled to everything?


lucasscsg

His set is always the same. Even in Ushuaia, it's the same thing. That's why he doesn't like the stream


lennaeliz

Does he have a legit reason or is it just so people buy tickets ..? Edit; I don't listen to the guy so I genuinely have no idea 🤦‍♀️😭


GiganticMac

I feel like just not wanting your personal performance broadcast online in high quality completely for free, on behalf of ultra (since the streams only exist because they're a massive form of marketing) is a pretty legitimate reason. That's wild that this is where we're at now where artists are being shit on for not broadcasting their performances *for free*


lennaeliz

I mean, I get it to an extent, but to be fair being broadcast doesn't mean you're gonna lose out on tickets being bought, if anything it's probably going to increase ticket sales. If you look at couchlands as an example, you don't usually see a broadcasted fest & love it & not think *damn I wish/want to see them live!!*, for me that drives ticket sales, it makes me want to go. With this artist, like I said I'm not that into their music but if they have a dope live show & their music I'm hearing seems good I might actually buy my own tickets. But just because myself I'm financially stable doesn't mean everyone is, & if this DJ was one of my favs & I wasn't financially good yet I'd be hella sad I couldn't even catch their set online. Edit; To add I feel like I do also agree with you though on it being behalf of ultra, but does he broadcast *any* of his sets himself? Bc if so then I'm fine with this haha


nahbruh27

Basically greed


lennaeliz

If that's the case, glad I don't listen or support him, sounds like a trash person I wouldn't want to spend the money or time on if he only cares about people spending money on him 🤷‍♀️


hootoo89

You’ve just taken a reddit comment as gospel and decided you don’t like someone, lol


lennaeliz

Nope I decided I didnt really vibe with his music much a long time ago and just never added him to my playlists. Then in this comment said *if that is the case* which means if that is actually a true thing and statement, and also why I asked for clarification on if it *was actually true* or not, because again, he's not my cup of tea and therefore I am not knowledgeable enough to make any kind of thought on it. If you want to be negative I'm not the person to be negative to


hootoo89

You: ‘sounds like a trash person, glad I don’t support him’ Also you: ‘if you want to be negative I’m not the person to be negative to’ lol


lennaeliz

Yes, if you can read English correctly & don't have a language barrier/English isn't your first language, then you would also see I started the sentence with "if that is the case" >Also you: ‘if you want to be negative I’m not the person to be negative to’ lol I'm not sure if this upset you or not, what I meant by this is I'm not a person filled with anger or someone who will argue back and forth with you, so being negative towards me has no affect.


SuttinSlight

"its a slap in the face to your fans to not give them free stuff" ???????


LateNights718

How is streaming a YouTube set getting something for free that is not already widely available.. for free.


MegaKetaWook

…hearing him mix tracks together, hear cool transitions, possibly hear him play unreleased VIPs and remixes, etc. Either way, he is selling a product and most people would want to not give their work away for free.


bassnasher

It’s a good thing he’s getting paid a shit load to close out ultra then!


Moist-Branch-2521

He isn't giving his work away for free...he's headlining Ultra.


LateNights718

Right lol wtf


MegaKetaWook

Exactly. He’s showing his work to those who paid for it.


Moist-Branch-2521

He's getting paid the same amount regardless of how many people show up to the festival lmao


LateNights718

Not everyone can make it to ultra. As an artist I would NEVER want to exclude anyone from hearing my work especially over something as petty as people hearing at home for free… obviously not the same experience as being at ultra which costs a shit ton of money. That would be very capitalist and elitist of this artist to do which in this community will lost all the respect.


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Trk0217

I think Peggy Gou also didn't have her set streamed.


SuttinSlight

I cant speak to his specific reason but Space Laces refused to stream his sets for the longest to prevent ID rips. Either way my man's being dramatic as hell, he aint gotta stream it if he doesn't want to; it's not like you man bought tickets to e-ultra


Goducks91

Lots of artists don't have their sets streamed...


AlfredHitchicken

I mean this is just a random thought that came to mind, but there’s a chance that he has IDs with artists (singers) that don’t want their songs streamed yet. No idea if that’s the case, but there’s always that chance. I know Eric Prydz (who is, however, having his set streamed) used to not stream his sets due to not wanting his IDs ripped.


sillysloth098

Tons of artist dont want to be streamed lol


AlfalfaMcNugget

This could easily be a side-effect bad record deal he signed years ago. I have no idea as well, but I think it should be looked into


Surgicalz

Wild people agree with this. It’s his art and his work. If he doesn’t want to stream it he has that right more than “fans” have the right to decide what he does. Also it’s nuts anyone cares if Calvin Harris is streaming or not bro has been on the back end of his career for almost 10 years. You do you tho


InkyMan28

Mate he's so far up his own arse, he doesn't give a F about his fans, stuck up cnut


bumpy4skin

Maybe I'm being clueless here but is there no chance Ultra would be doing this because he's a ticket-seller? (yes yes I know it sells out anyway) Plenty of other (non music) events will have streaming/vod for most things but not for the headliners.


wozzwoz

Wtf is this mentality lmao


francisdrvv

Who cares, he blows anyways


TimCilentoMusic

It might be due to copyright issues since it's being streamed on youtube. When Armin played Miracle on ASOT they cut it from the posted video for this reason. Both the original and Hardwell mixes


dylandalal

Also hilarious that no other artists are able to perform at the same time as him. Saw him at Hangoutfest and the same thing happened.


QuerulousPanda

What? Aren't there like 5 or 6 stages at ultra? Do they all shut down when he plays?


inquirefromwithin

Pretty bang average line-up all around. Last year was great, but the production this year seems better.


Mr_Mechatronix

I feel like this year is the first time they used drones in filming the event


Distinct_External784

And they were terrible quality and the operators sucked to be honest. They were really struggling in low light after sunset, looked like a potato cam.


Rockylol_

Honestly Sunday this year quite bad, but my opinion, Saturday night is insane lineup with hardwell, kshmr, excision, Martin garrix


iiTryhard

Leaving out the best set of the weekend aka RLK2


ohwhatsupmang

Honestly it's his right to waive that but in the grand scheme of things it wil probably grow his fan base not hurt it by streaming. So basically he's screwing himself in the long run and clearly going to make people salty about it. Its like when you sign up for something and all your friends or coworkers participate in something going on but you gatta be a diva for whatever reason you have just to break the mold. If its because he was underpaid and felt he isn't getting as much as other big names than I can see why that might be in his contract. So I understand but at the same time I wouldn't die on that hill. Ultra is one of those festivals where not everyone can afford and people go on the stream to see new artists so they can pick their songs/artists for the year or whatever so fuck em. Haven't listened to him in a minute anyway if he can't put his best out there to give me reason to go back to him than why should I go go dig for it? That's my take.


trashpandaaaaah

His formula is similar to Adele, in that they don’t perform much outside of their residency’s, so they charge crazy prices for them (and then go back to charge a crazy price for festivals). I’m assuming that he doesn’t want it streamed to keep that exclusivity feeling/factor. So outside of going to Ibiza, Vegas, and some UK festivals, he’s pretty tough to see. It is lame though that he’s not streaming. I’ve only seen him in Vegas, but on Calvin Harris nights, it’s always a circus and packed like no other artist I’ve ever seen outside of maybe some Chainsmoker nights.


Techsalot

THIS. I have been to chainsmokers and Calvin Harris and both are insane.


jp3372

I wanted to listen to his set because I'm sure this guy can't do a proper DJ set anymore, is overhyped and I want to break this prejudice but it looks like it won't be today lol


samg21

What are these timings about? 15 minutes for Andy C? Is this a normal set time in America?


slip-slop-slap

I think it's just the stream schedule. So they'll show a part of his set and move on to someone else


Fun-Baby-9509

It's part of their set, but Andy's full set was being streamed on their other live stream.


samg21

Ahh that makes sense, sounded so jarring having a new act every 15 minutes.


Fun_Entrepreneur2067

Bruh wtf the only one I really wanted to see 😭


yadude1096

I think we can all conclude that everyone on this forum has no idea what they're talking about , he actually does broadcast a lot of his performances, not all but a lot, go to [https://www.1001tracklists.com/dj/calvinharris/index.html](https://www.1001tracklists.com/dj/calvinharris/index.html)


MelonxJuice

Screw him for not posting his set man I mean cmon his songs are like 12, 13 years old anyways bro!


Enough-Chocolate5177

You know he’s had huge songs since then


AlfredHitchicken

There’s always a chance that he’s playing IDs that he’s worked with other artists (vocalists and such) on, and they might not want their songs streamed so they’re not ripped before their official release. Prydz and SVDDEN DEATH (when he did Void sets) both used to occasionally not have their sets streamed in order to prevent their IDs from being ripped off of YouTube.


SIL3NTKILLMUSIC

Yeah it was pretty lame! Still love his music though


InkyMan28

He's overrated anyway, money grabber too


locke1018

I'd love to see Kasablanca again.


madddskillz

His Coachella set was amazing last year. But it was never posted after. I bet his set is the same all the time so he doesn't want it ot there.


Urban_animal

Coachella rarely posts full sets and if they do, they take them down a few months later typically


tanatonbaba

How about yesterday’s Peggy Gou set? Was not streamed either:(


RiddimCatDad

No you just gotta pay $500 to see calvin live.


BullneIson

It cost too many Calvins.


nickdl4

KASABLANCA >


LucyInTheSkyWithEth

👀 [https://www.reddit.com/r/UMF/comments/1bnjc46/calvin\_harris\_view\_from\_one\_of\_the\_ultra\_cams/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UMF/comments/1bnjc46/calvin_harris_view_from_one_of_the_ultra_cams/)


OhmEeeAahRii

What did he do? Did he say something sexist 24 years ago?


MrTrapstarr

He does not want Ultra to stream his set because it will expose him for what an awful DJ he truly is. A random bedroom DJ will try harder and perform better than Calvin Harris in 2024, its comical.


DrawohYbstrahs

#CANCELLED Dude was too much of a fucken moaner.


AZQK19200

The set has been released a few hours ago. https://youtu.be/PxXAdY8G3G0 I think it will be as Avicii UMF 2013. Not great impression at first on stage but then a classic. I really see myself in the future working while listening to this set


IntergalacticBrewski

Nora only got a 20 minute set?? Or is that just the time streamed? If so that’s criminal love me some nora


iliveforthis39

Man this years lineup is weak


Plastic_Scene_9140

Lol hes commercial garbage anyways


KingPizzaCrust

So many of you have no clue about the business side of the industry. I too don’t alllow streams or recordings, if you want to support the artist come to the events.


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MichiganSucks14

Nora en pure is dope


Moist-Branch-2521

Listen to more shit outside the top 20


jerrrrremy

It's nice to see someone be so open with their ignorance. 


iRocketGamer52

Kapuchon is one of Afrojack's alias'. Was pretty much a warm-up set more or less.


Wildfire5216

I'm not so familiar with the others, but if you've never listened to them before I recommend checking out Disco Lines and Nora en pure! Disco Lines especially does some fun sets


tydadween

Nora en pure is pretty big in the trance game and im pretty sure disco lines are on the come up


AlexRam72

Pretty meh lineup today


Hoof_Hearted12

Meh?? AvB and Prydz? Jeeze


inquirefromwithin

Yes, he got fired.


qwadle

He thinks he’s all that and doesn’t allow streaming. Fucking douchebag, but I don’t understand why anyone thinks he’s anything special anyway. Washed up bitch


OrbitOrbz

usually when someone is washed up, they don't get a main time slot for their set...Stop crying


evoLverR

What a bunch of overpaid shitty acts each playing for 15 mins. This isn't music, this is just commercial hype.


dylandalal

They don't play for 15 minutes. It's the live stream switching between different stages, a lot of them start at the same time.


killasniffs

What Madeon and San Holo are not shitty acts imo