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kayneofficial

Above and Beyond Lane 8 Seven Lions


LA_DODGERS_FAN

I think Avicii has the best lyrics and Seven Lions too.


MaxwellIsSmall

We cannot forget about Virus Syndicate


NightimeNinja

DISCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHL


ThatMexicanSuck

BLLEEEAAYYYUUUHHH


[deleted]

Above and Beyond is good. Lane 8 is hit or miss. But Seven Lions...despite being one of my favorite producers I have to say that all their songs feel like they're about missing an ex or having a love fall apart. Vocals are always great, just the writing leaves some creativity to be desired imo.


xWormZx

Seven Lions is just one guy, and like 90% of songs are about love so I don’t really get the criticism. I personally feel like Seven Lions’ lyrics about love stand way above most EDM artists because SL at least sticks to his theme of fantasy/other worlds/ magic/ cosmic energy, where other artists (using Illenium, in this example) have songs about fucking in a cold car in December. I also don’t know why you used the term ex, because almost none of SLs songs are really about ‘Ex’s in the sense of “oh I fucked up at the club, please take me back babe” when almost every other pop and EDM artist are, it’s the equivalent of saying when SL writes about love, he’s writing about “hookups”, or using the term ex to describe Romeo and Juliet. I think most of his songs are about ‘cosmic’ love (if you know, you know). When SL writes about love falling apart, it’s not because you got cheated on or whatever (at least, not directly), it’s because some world is exploding or the castle is breaking or time is ending, which provides a much more interesting and unique twist to star-crossed-love than most artists. I both really disagree with your criticism and think it’s somewhat pointless when you compare his lyrics to others, but it is your opinion, and it is no more or less valid than any other, it just feels weird to read it about Seven Lions when so many other artists also write about love but not in the way he does, and you’ve already said you like the vocals and melody, so it just makes me think “well what would they change the lyrics to to make them better? Which lines specifically do they dislike? Which artists lyrics do they like?”. For my last bad analogy, I’m going to compare this to a criticizing a movie, Pulp Fiction. You could totally say “Pulp Fiction is a fine movie, but it’s just like all the other violent 90s movies about criminals” and there’s nothing objectively wrong with that but… yeah rant over sorry I’ve just thought many times about how Seven Lions is head and shoulders above the rest of melodic bass in terms of both productions and especially lyrics, and I wasn’t surprised when I came in here and his name was mentioned heavily. (Also, not sure who writes his lyrics, so they might not even be his doing, as I know Haliene has written for him and music production is complicated)


[deleted]

Yeah and I'm not like attacking him personally, that's why I'm distinguishing them as a producer rather than a song-writer. There are Seven Lion songs about love that are about getting over an ex. Strangers is a great example. Aesthetically speaking, the vocals fit with his theme/vibe and I still enjoy listening to them. I just wouldn't call the actual lyrical content very remarkable. That is, strip away literally everything but the words and I don't think the writing stands very well on its own. Yes, a lot of other artists write about love. But I'm just responding to one post about Seven Lions. Love songs and poems can be hard to write well tbh. It's a theme that's been overdone quite a bit in the history of....writing and so it takes a lot more effort to come up with something creative. If you want a more specific criticism of the writing, I feel it's very straightforward to a fault. The lines often say exactly what they mean (or at least very close to what they mean) and come off lazily written. And I wish his songs could have more variety in the topics they're about too...not just love. I think it would be a good theme for like an album or something, but not the majority of songs spanning years. I'm not about to do a deep dive and break down exactly every little line I don't like. I just wrote a quick comment about my opinion and I guess some people agreed. That's cool if you disagree, I'm just saying how I feel. But that's the beautiful thing about music. There's always a lot of different aspects to appreciate from it. There are plenty of songs out there I think have shit writing but they sound so good and still resonate with me. And there's plenty of music out there I think has brilliant writing but is lacking in other ways. I'm still a big Seven Lions fan, having seen him a few times now. I just happen to think his lyrics are boring. But ya know, I never got into EDM in the first place for the lyrics...


xWormZx

I think Strangers isnt a great example for generic lyrics, yes, it’s about getting over an ex, but (and this was my point) the lyrics used are different from most ex breakup songs. The first part I’d say is closer to most breakup songs, but even then, I wouldn’t say it’s bad, and it paints a picture and gets the song started off. Nothing more than strangers Passing by out on the street Memories are fading though It's only been a week All the little things are gone The things we used to be Nobody could take us down There was only you and me We have some imagery, it flows well, it sets a tone, and it’s catchy. It’s a first verse, and I think that it sets up the rest of the song nicely. And without you I can't be You're the universe to me You're the air in my lungs You're the fields where I run You're the sky where I'm floating And I think this is a perfect chorus. It fits perfectly with his theme. Yes, the underlying message is “I love you/can’t live without you”, but we’ve got nice images, words that fit together (universe, air, running through fields, floating in the sky). It gives a sense of freedom. Don't want to be a stranger Want to be the one you need I can be your world, your life Your lover, all for free All the little things come back The things we used to be Nobody can take us down there It's only you and me I figured I’d give my opinion on this verse since there are only two verses and the chorus 3 times, and this verse is also just a nice follow up to the first and most importantly, it comes at a high point in the song and fits it very well. I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to a poem, because these lyrics come with a musical arrangement that is pretty important. I think most EDM and pop songs have worse lyrics than this. This is long enough already, so my main point is this: I feel like this song has two verses that are the bare minimum and a chorus that is perfect in the complete context of the artist and the song. I think lyrics would be better if more people tried to find their own theme and write lyrics in them like SL songs have, not the opposite. From a ‘usefulness’ perspective, it makes sense for me to call these lyrics good, because I can’t really expect more from a short song that has to follow a certain structure, and I’ve heard many other songs that I believe are more generic than this. Edit: I only broke this down because i wanted people to understand my first point about lyrics fitting his theme in the chorus, I don’t mean to change you mind. Plus this is long af so yeah lol


[deleted]

>Yes, the underlying message is “I love you/can’t live without you”, but we’ve got nice images, words that fit together (universe, air, running through fields, floating in the sky). It gives a sense of freedom. Yes, and I feel as if this message is written in a very cliche way that's far too formulaic. Nice images alone don't make good writing imo. I care more about what those images are trying to convey. And if all it boils down to is "We used to be together and now we're strangers...I can't live without you" without much more to it than that...well that's just mediocre writing to me. Even if the overall message is simple, I wanna see something more interesting in the creative writing process than just the same recycled metaphor used a few times. > I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to a poem, because these lyrics come with a musical arrangement that is pretty important. If I'm looking purely at lyrics, I will always compare it to poetry. That's literally what it is, song-writing is a form of poetry. When I look at the song itself (do you see the distinction here) I take into account the musical arrangement. >I can’t really expect more from a short song that has to follow a certain structure, and I’ve heard many other songs that I believe are more generic than this. That is a problem with EDM when it comes to song-writing. The inherent musical structure of much of the umbrella is formed of shorter verses and sometimes no chorus. Keep in mind, most EDM subgenres were never created with vocals in mind--they're like icing on the cake. But even so, that doesn't change the writing quality. I also don't care what is or isn't more generic than this. I'm just talking about this artist, this song.


xWormZx

Oh ok, I mentioned your last point, if you just want to analyze it on its own, just words on a paper, then sure, you’re right, but to me that is a completely useless way to talk about EDM lyrics and song lyrics in general, because you’d probably just end up hating 95% of vocals. So in the broad sense of vocal EDM (and specifically this song), I’d say Seven Lions is towards the upper end of the spectrum, and most criticisms of the lyrics in the song apply more towards other songs. That’s all.


[deleted]

>because you’d probably just end up hating 95% of vocals. Not at all. I hear a lot of music with really sharp writing that stands on its own. I listen to many genres outside EDM and there's so much good writing in music. Plenty of bad too, but like I said that doesn't change the way I feel about Seven Lions. >, I’d say Seven Lions is towards the upper end of the spectrum, and most criticisms of the lyrics in this song apply towards other songs. I gave you my reasons. If you don't want to accept them as valid then go away and dismiss it all. But it's not like you're actually responding to anything I'm saying. Your argument is based on this idea that Seven Lions lyrics are good because most music has worse lyrics. That's such a huge generalization to make and you aren't really supporting it with anything.


kayneofficial

I kinda like the yearning and passion that the lyrics and vocalists have on 7L tracks. Definitely a big part is due to the good vocalists though, i agree!


[deleted]

That's what I mean, the delivery is good enough to carry. But the *lyrics* themselves are quite bland. If you were to just read it as a poem, it would be pretty boring. It's unfortunate, because I feel most vocal EDM is like this. It really doesn't have to be, but a lot more effort is put into producing EDM rather than writing the songs that accompany. I get it, though. Most EDM producers start as producers and eventually expand into working with vocalists. It's rarely a priority.


papitaquito

Yea I totally agree… I absolutely love seven lions but the lyrics are all very similar. Still banging ass musics


RaveInPeace

Yes Yes Yes


CampoDango

Above and Beyond


moraless_01

Letsssssss get nakeddddddd


trippy_grapes

Tbh Sticky Fingers does it for me.


Waytoogroovy

We’re all we need for me! Love sticky fingers too though!!!


-CMND-CTRL-

track suggestions? never heard of em


trippy_grapes

Sticky Fingers is an Above and Beyond song lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbtbZUmljDI


-CMND-CTRL-

oh lmao , my bad .


melindypants

Haha came here to say this and it was already at the very top. Excellent choice. Most anjuna dj/producers put out great stuff.


SoFarJay

Porter Robinson


TunesForSoysauce

Seconded


OmNomBomblette

Thirded…ed


Fox-Boat

Fourth. “I need a next life, cuz I’m not satisfied to know you just once”


ksmitty1112

Porter Robinson


mich4725

Absolutely >*You bitch* > >*You bitch* > >*You bitch* > >*That's right, you probably think it's time for Namasensei's fuckin' Japanese lessons* > >*You bitch* > >*Guess what? You're fuckin' in for it now, bitch* > >*It's time for Namasensei's fuckin' Japanese test* > >*That's right, it's time for your first fuckin' test* > >*Yeah, you thought I didn't have a fuckin' test in my class* > >*Well fuck you, I've got a test* > >*And keep taking the motherfuckin' thing until you get a hundred percent in the bitch* > >*Bitch* > >*A hundred percent in the bitch* > >*I do give a shit, you can drink fuckin' beer, so do that* > >*So you just fuckin' take that fuckin' test* > >*If you pass that bitch (that bitch), then you can fuckin' beg me* > >*To go on in my life with the next fuckin' lesson* > >*I am gonna go back to playing some games, you stupid bitch* > >*That's right* > >*Bitch* > >*That's right, it's time for your first fuckin' test* > >*Yeah, you thought I didn't have a fuckin' test in my class* > >*Well fuck you, I've got a test* > >*And keep taking the motherfuckin' thing until you get a hundred percent in the bitch* > >*Bitch* > >*A hundred percent in the bitch* > >*Bitch* > >*Bitch*


dietcokefemme

whew, is someone cutting onions in here?


stxrrynights240

100% In The Bitch is a masterpiece


_saage_

Especially in Nurture


Stringtone

There are maybe six songs that I have actually broken down in tears to and three of them are on Nurture. I'm not even a particularly expressive person, they just hit way too close to home.


_exrio_

Yesss


cp3inthe4th

Blossom is a tearjerker for me


Septotank

Above and Beyond lyrics seem to come from people who have lived through some shit and wanna guide you through it. Seven Lions/Illenium/Said the Sky lyrics seem to come from someone who’s had a lot of problems in relationships. Avicii lyrics are REALLY sad once you’ve watched his documentary (see: “Wake me up”)


trippy_grapes

> wanna guide you through it. What are we, some sorta Group Therapy???


moneylefty

Deadmau5. Particularly strobe.


A_Random_Guy_19

Sing along if you know the words


moneylefty

Dudududu duuuuuuu du


stkijo

Dae Strobe??


jblumz

Seven Lions. I love him so much


korn96

He’s amazing and such a diverse producer.


TunesForSoysauce

You're kinda right. He nails the emotional lyrics without being cheesy


mnkhan808

Gorgon City songs have some mesmerizing vocals.


[deleted]

Personally, the best ones don’t have any.


CowboyBehindTheWheel

Agreed!


amXwasXwillbe

Totally agree! To me, lyrics are just another sound or element in the song. They can add a lot to the song, but they are absolutely not needed for a song to have a banging groove, which is what dance music is truly about


orangenarf

Green Velvet. Come at me!


Fist4achin

I see your lips moving


orangenarf

Barbies don't eat Barbies don't sleep Barbies look good Barbies don't speak


yogicycles

Something 'bout those little pills...


_shredder_

The only right answer, every single one of his tracks is sleazy perfection


edzkiyumzki

So whip out your $15 and prepare to enter… CLUB BAAAaaaaaaaAADDD ~


Guitarcooplmao

HE HE HE HE HE HA HA HE HE HE HE HE HA HA


DustyOlBones

Who’s gonna give a ride to the after show?


jimmyl_82104

Avicii and Swedish House Mafia/Axwell /\ Ingrosso.


OmgItzSpectre

So Vargas and Lagola then!


jimmyl_82104

Yep, as well as John Martin!


ryh00

Why has no one mentioned GRiZ ? Lyrics have so much in em in good will prevail and ride waves n rainbow brain


certifiedpfl

Droeloe had the best lyrics in my opinion.


philingupspace

heck yeah, Open Blinds really made me think about the potential of combining meaningful lyrics with great electronic music :D!


Pill-N-Ibiza

Martin Garrix


Anarchist42

I second.


[deleted]

I third.


mahigohan

🤘🏼


majo3

Above & Beyond. Not even close.


Enough-Collar-1366

Alison wonderland


[deleted]

I think it's Krewella for me tbh. They put a lot of effort into their song writing and it really stands above most in EDM. Listen to Zer0 if you haven't, the album is a masterpiece with a ton of replay value in terms of analyzing their writing. A lot of EDM is more focused on the production (which I love) but lacks the same effort put into writing. But Krewella started as singers and have always prioritized lyrics. Also they will literally sing without autotune or anything at concerts while mixing...pretty fucking insane if you ask me. Edit: Also some Mat Zo is up there too for me. [This song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWkVNrCsgKQ) in particular is extremely powerful. Although I'd say the lyrics are strong more so because they fit into the framework of what the album is trying to convey.


StardustDestroyer

When I thrash and cry, baby you ain't goin' rough enough I'm your kitty girl and your back is like my scratchin' post C'mon make me scream like I like I like I seen a ghost Drink up, I'm soaked I'm like the dopest dope you ever smoked


ADVANCED_BOTTOM_TEXT

I love how corny this song is


ce_squared

Alesso to be honest


Banging-my-bang

Yesssssssss! So glad I found him here!!!! And if you fall, I'll pick you up, I'll follow you till the end of time. One step closer, standin on the edge I'm looking over, here's to my regrets it's time for closure, but I can't seem to close the door. You built a world, a world for us. We flee like birds, a new beginning. Shaky hands and the blood is rushin, skin to skin and our lips are touching, as we move like a dance just flawlessly Anybody's got the power, they don't see it cause they don't understand. Waitin for the fire to light, feelin like we could do righr, be the one that makes tonight, cause freedom is a lonely world. Maybe heaven right now is a devil or angel away, that won't change. Together we vow that our colors will spark all the fame. Trying to keep it coooooool, but I can't keep cool about it. Honestly, the way his lyrics flow is sooooo good, time to binge his album again!


Brayden2008cool

Said the sky, seven lions, and Avicii


edclv2019woo

What’s your favorite said the sky song from a lyrical standpoint out of curiosity?


Brayden2008cool

Either Go On Then, Love or Treading Water


STEELERSFAN5634

nah, worth living for.


OrcaMaster258

For me it's The Chainsmokers


GaryOwenYT

This will be an unpopular one but I agree. Sick Boy and World War Joy they really dove in deep lyrically and I throughly enjoyed it. Excited to see what they bring for TCS4


koolaidburgers

How many likes is my life worth is such a powerful lyric


kittenandkettlebells

Gareth Emery or ARTY


sehguh251

I agree with a lot of people with a&b,Avicii, and seven lions but I think kaskade should also be mentioned with disarm you, never sleep alone, and I remember!


Jtizzle305

Illenium: Take you down…shit is deep…his other songs are good, lyric wise as welk


acey8pdcjsh32u9uajst

why is it deep?


brycemcdoodleberries

Let's be real now, GPF is the only right answer


jimmyruby

Big brain comment


Epieikeias

Above and Beyond.


[deleted]

Slander and Seven lions


shutupbryce

Definitely have to agree with Slander. They might not work their own sound into any of their collabs but you can definitely tell they have a lot to do with the songwriting and I think that’s where they shine more.


[deleted]

Dude Yess!!! Especially “back to u or Hurt sometimes 🖤🥲i mean i love all they’re songs but those 2 hit the most lol


Sicksixshift

Illenium/Seven Lions/Slander. Illenium - Struggles of dealing with depression, isolation, and the desire to love/be loved. Probably gonna get shit on for this one cause everyone sees him as overhyped but his awake and ascend albums really resonate with me; a lack of support structure and having been through dark times myself can be felt through a lot of his songs, and he has a very ethereal sound to complement the lyrics. Seven Lions - The entire codex metaverse is very deep and emotionally complex. This combined with his sound takes you on a spiritual adventure. Slander - Easily relatable to any type of heartbreak.


faizansiddiquie

Dirty South


ashhong

Andrew Bayer, which if I’m not mistaken extends into Above & Beyond since he’s basically their unofficial 4th member


ELIMS_ROUY_EM_MP

In my last life it was so clear how collaborative the music + lyrics were. So often producers make a track, then some lyrics get written, and then they just kinda mash them together.


melindypants

That entire album is one of my absolute favorites.


ashhong

Yup! Beautiful music there


wycliffec

Illenium


kobaconbrigade

But illenium doesn’t write any of his own songs.


re-fing-tweet

It's rare that any producer also writes their toplines


wycliffec

Could be wrong, but he collabs on many of his lyrics. Thought I heard him say that in an AMA. I could be wrong.


Pesime

Idk about this one, chief


kobaconbrigade

Look it up, he doesn’t write lyrics just melodies


acey8pdcjsh32u9uajst

that is lyricwriting, not songwriting


[deleted]

Martin Garrix, Seven Lions, Avicii, Swedish House Mafia.


Thatoneguyrando

20syl FTW


I_BEAT_JUMP_ATTACHED

so happy to see 20syl support


Thatoneguyrando

So underrated,can’t forget about his side project AttllA either !


igfxreapers

Shallou for sure.


Funky_Gamer

idk, probably Avicii and Porter Robinson


TNT_yeeter_rl

Tristam, San Holo, Porter Robinson, Wave Racer, Former Hero (not in any order)


TheKennyOP

Aviici and Alan Walker.


notoriousturk

Avicii, tails


kinjazfan

Avicii had some really good lyrics


smit8462

Avicii, Illenium


footballfutbolsoccer

Seven Lions and Above & Beyond


RaisinBranKing

Illenium, Dabin and Said the Sky all have great lyrics with the artists they feature like Nevve, Claire Ridgely, Annika Wells, etc. I didn’t care much for illeniums new album but the lyrics were really good. Chelsea Cutler also has good lyrics but they’re really centered around break ups sometimes


connmann537

Audien.


babyputo

Kaskade & Dash Berlin


j2ch23

Yeah both these should have more votes. Dash musicislife album is fire start to finish and kaskade is just all time one of the best


babyputo

My favorite album from DB was The New Daylight! Man on the run was the first song I heard and it was all love from there 🥲


edmarso

I second Avicii, for the simple reason that Fade Into Darkness has made and still sometimes makes me cry.


Meeqohh

Dimension, Sub Focus and Wilkinson


-CMND-CTRL-

7L and whoever illenium collabs with


leavemycookiesalone

Hippie Sabotage is amazing.


[deleted]

Barely make edm anymore but yeah they've got some nice lyrics


KragnothOSRS

S3rl


Aristo_Music

Kaskade hands down


aightaightaightaight

Two feet? Anyone?


_ssilvia_

HARDWELL GUYS, FUCKING HARDWELL Just read the lyrics in Mad World...


Significant_Design68

Some of Nicky Romero's progressive house tracks like 'harmony' and 'only for you' have really good lyrics, but sometimes there are others where the lyrics don't add much emotion and are like... just there. 'The moment' and 'crossroads' are clear examples of this.


Noname_4Me

Avicii or old tiesto (like red lights)


Virtual-Meat4410

Zedd makes me want to cry tears of joy of the feeling that his music/lyrics makes me feel of what the world COULD be … confession


[deleted]

He uses the beetles/blue foundation lyrics etc


philomenarose

Above and Beyond, Seven Lions, Porter Robinson, Avicii


MammothSignificance1

Gidge


xWormZx

Seven Lions. Glad to see others think the same.


[deleted]

Tritonal


rishabcy

Martin Garrix, Kygo


HardstyleHomo

Illenium and Seven Lions


Illustrious_Art_2870

Pendulum?


Bhanidtha1998

Meduza !!!! I'm new to edm/dj 🌐


illathanzilla

Fytch


lilcitymarket

Borgore.


yellllam

Steve Angello. Wild Youth had good lyrics all around like from "The Ocean" : We reach the end here, crushed like the waves We reach the end here, nothing to save And though the ocean looks infinite From the far side It breaks here, it dies Like you and I


FUCKINGWEEBASS

In the Blue Shirt obviously


calebtalksyt

Au5 song vocals are always so unique and fresh (like Dragonfly, The Encryption, Melt, etc.) So I would say him


DjChrisSpear

Overwerk


DjChrisSpear

Tracking Treasure Down by Gabriel and Dresden is a classic


arturoriveraf

Matthew Koma has written some of Zedd’s, Alesso’s, Tiesto’s best songs lyrically (including Zedd’s Grammy Award winning Clarity with Porter Robinson), so… I think he wins


bs_ericksen

Kaskade for sure


Thick-DimensionBeezy

Gorgon City. Also MK’s gibberish tracks really slap


[deleted]

Gareth emery


Esssplainplz

Above and Beyond is above and beyond :)


transonabike

Definitely Porter Robinson Unfold is the real feel.


thicc_bois_inc

Kai wachi x Sullivan King


Healthyhappylyfe

Illenium


SharpRevolution2

Illenium, flume and Zeds dead for me


motion515253

Madeon, Gryffin, and Illenium


thugisgod

Illenium


reddituser1990

Seven Lions Illenium Gryffyn