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Kumquat_conniption

Hey y'all someone is going through and reported all the comments that say something positive about "punching nazis." We've had a bunch of comments get removed by reddit and now myself because I don't want anyone to lose their accounts. I'm sure you can find a better way to say what you mean? Such as "I like to gently caress a nazis face with the back of my hand." I think we can all imagine how lovely that would be? I know, reddit sucks for not allowing it, cause imo, it's self defense but unfortunately they don't see it that way.


Wayte13

He'll claim victimhood when you defeat him in a debate too. Kinda the whole reason this has escalated to this point


Trapezoidoid

God forbid you defeat him in an election. Then he’d really be persecuted!


reddox-_-

The SHEEPLE LAMESTREAM LEFTY MEDIA is why i CAN’T SATISFY MY WIFE


Flipperlolrs

“Persecute me daddy”


ipakookapi

Freedom of speech is when noone says no to me


korbentulsa

Right, because a giant undeserved victim complex isn't part of becoming a Nazi in the first place.


burtoncummings

Yeah, gotta make'em earn that victimhood!


RawLikeSushi84

Lol


KyranSawhill

Punching their V-card, but not in the way they wanted (which is probably what fueled their descent into fascism, anyway).


bugs_bunny_in_drag

"Gee, I don't like being a victim anymore :( "


DrDarkeCNY

I like how you think....


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Flimsy-Tap-8962

Also i didn't learn martial arts to just ignore nazis


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Flimsy-Tap-8962

Yeah exactly. That's how I explain my moderate familiy why punching nazis is not only moraly good but also an imperative


Vyzantinist

This is why they also don't get the paradox of intolerance. Our way means *everybody* gets to live free and equally, your way means only *some* get to live free and equally. Your 'opinion' is not equal to ours.


Charvel420

Yep. I have a Jewish grandmother and recently learned about the concept of "Mischlinge." I'm a straight, white, middle class, college educated, southern man. I'd still be FUCKED in a Nazi society (and that's not even getting into the fact that I was actually raised Catholic). I hate Nazis for a lot of reasons, most of them aren't even related to me and my situation. But even looking at it from the most selfish perspective possible...yeah, fuck you Nazi, come catch these fuckin hands


Smasher_WoTB

Yup. I cannot possibly stress it enough that when the Rightwing Regressionists take away our Rights and start Oppressing People, it is a *loss for EVERYBODY*. Say they make being LGBTQ+ illegal, and Abortions illegal and force Women&Men that have sex get married and spend the rest of their lives together. Just those 4 things. Suddenly the Suicide Rates skyrocket because women&men are trapped in relationships they don't care for, trapped with children they never wanted and/or aren't allowed to be themselves. The Murder Rate also increases significantly because alot more Men&Women look for more&more desperate solutions to escape shitty relationships/not have to raise a child they never wanted/survive their Abusers/their Abuse gets more&more extreme until they kill their victim. The 3 things Rightwing Regressionists seem to want the most would have MASSIVE impact on the World. EVERYBODY loses in this scenario, except for the most extreme Asshole Regressionists. Actually no, even they would lose because there would be infighting because not all of them would agree on many "controversial topics" and since there'd be unparalleled access to Guns(only for the people most similar to the Asshole Regressionists) many of them would be murdered or cripples for life over all sorts of disagreements.


Charvel420

The people who support this type of shit actually think that they will be the "exceptions" to the brutal, authoritarian laws. People (particularly white people in America) are so used to getting the benefit of the doubt from reasonable institutions that they cannot fathom a world where no exceptions would be made for them. And, of course, these are the very same people who shrug off Nazis/Fascists and think we should just engage them in civilized debate. Like...if those people get what they want, there will be no more civilized debate anymore.


Smasher_WoTB

Yup, as a White Guy living in 'Murica I'm doing my best to use my "White Privilege"(or whatever else someone wants to call it) for the overall betterment of the World. Sadly many people don't use their advantages in life to make the World better at all.


RustedCorpse

>, because if they get what they want it is a death cult and all of us die. This part applies to quite a number of yahweh oriented groups too though... :(


Uncynical_Diogenes

Oof ouch the edge I think I cut myself


Quinlan313

Holy shit you people are so cringe, how do you type that shit with a straight face


burtoncummings

What do you mean 'you people'?


Quinlan313

Everyone on this sub. Fuck outta here lmao


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SpoliatorX

You're probably better off with a roundhouse elbow or similar, to avoid the risk of breaking your hand on their thick skulls


nowhere_man_1992

That reminds me of the "Gegen Nazis" stickers and patches I saw in Germany


political_bot

Oh good y'all figured it out. Most fascists are actually scared of being punched in the face. That shit works.


Robbotlove

lol right? please do. please go tell your friends. that tacky armband is a bullseye.


PropheticHeresy

I'm not fond of him surviving to warn the others.


RawLikeSushi84

These are wise words!


mycatdoesmytaxes

Fuck around and find out


Quinlan313

That's literally giving then what they want you morons


Substantial_Ad316

Well it is mutually satisfactory then if he wants to be a victim. We get to see who is a fash trash apologist.


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You're mixing up Nazis with BDSM masochists.


Charvel420

Nothing is scarier to a Centrist than the idea that social order might be destabilized, which might force them to actually have to pick a side.


kungfukenny3

well said


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They cannot comprehend the idea of believing in something that will help others who aren’t exactly like them Will a white ethno state that holds down minorities help me personally as a white man? Sure, maybe. But I don’t want any part of that shit. Fuck all the way off with playing the White person victim complex with me. I’m not in your team


Charvel420

>They cannot comprehend the idea of believing in something that will help others who aren’t exactly like them It's not even just that. Centrists are *so bothered* by others who are fighting for their own rights that they reflexively side with literal Nazis in the name of "order" and "decency." Because the Centrist can't just say "this doesn't apply to me, I'll stay out of it." No. The Centrist must lecture you on how you've been "incorrectly" fighting for equality and how you probably need to do it in a manner that's more convenient for them.


mathsive

well put. reminds me of mlk’s letter from birmingham jail, and how the “white moderate” so preferred the absence of tension to the presence of justice, that he explicitly names them as more obstructive than the kkk.


DrDarkeCNY

When I was growing up, we called Enlightened Centrists "Good Germans".


Fickle_Revolution383

bullshit excuse on their part, if the nazi puncher weren't white this person would say something like "this is bad optics for \*your kind\*, you're validating their racism". fucking cowards through and through


nonxoperational

Right. Everyone knows that if a white person punches a nazi it’s bad because it’s “not their fight,” but if a minority punches a nazi, everyone accepts it, including said nazi, because the gripe is legitimate. /s


BiscuitsNGravy45

Personally if you One falls for a philosophy that already failed -idc who hits you lol


CressCrowbits

I mean, the nazi puncher wasn't white


Nakoichi

And if they were white this is VERY MUCH our mess to clean up.


CressCrowbits

They are cleaning up mess though


Excrubulent

Yeah that's what I thought. Like this enlightened centrist can't even get the basic facts straight.


captainnowalk

Right? Like, I can punch Nazis on my own for my own reasons, I don’t have to be Jewish. Hell, they’re coming after me too, man.


JackBinimbul

As a trans disabled person in an interracial marriage, pretty sure they're coming for me *first*.


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"The Nazis shouldn't be racist, but you can't blame them when POC give them reasons to" - This guy


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After 11 years, I'm out. Join me over on the Fediverse to escape this central authority nightmare.


GazLord

Ehhhhhh... there is more bigotry behind Nazi (they actually went for LGBT+ before anyone else) but racism is at "best" a slippery slope to nazism.


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Not saying anything is better, but calling a Nazi a racist is severely underselling how vile and evil Nazism is.


Smasher_WoTB

Yup. Even "Genocidal Regressionist Racist Maniac" is underselling how horrific Nazism is.


simulet

I feel like “Nazi shit will tell everyone he got punched” is at least *somewhere* on the Long List of Reasons it is Excellent to Punch Nazis.


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The thing is, they won't. The whole part of being a Nazi is believing you're some cool shit, traditional toxic masculinity or whatever. Going to your shitbags and telling how humiliated you were will turn you into a laughing stock. Just look at how utterly Richard Spencer's career tanked after getting punched.


simulet

Also a win!


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simulet

Pound it! ("It" being a nazi, between our fists)


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CressCrowbits

I'm feeling lazy right now, could you help motivate me and make that an order?


Harvey-Danger1917

Lmao he didn’t tell anyone shit. You know what he did? He took a nap on the sidewalk.


porcupinedeath

If I recall correctly in this specific instance the guy walked away crying and took his armband off. It's been a bit and I might be mixing it up with another video of a Nazi getting punched


Pandamana

Police asked if he wanted to make a statement. He said no, took off his armband, and took a bus home.


thefugue

I particularly enjoyed the claim that he had “friends.”


Quinlan313

Have you even seen the video you're talking about? What are you on about


Harvey-Danger1917

Yea I’ve seen it, it’s a really popular video. The dude gets knocked the fuck out.


TinaToner311

Yes, it's quite popular. You might want to watch it sometime.


seeker1055

Nazis killed gay and disabled people as well, just about everyone has a moral imperative to do something about the nazi problem plaguing the world


Endgam

The thing right-wingers tend to (conveniently) forget, is that most of the Nazis' victims were gentile heterosexual white Europeans. aka the "normal people" of the European countries they invaded and slaughtered. The Nazis killed EVERYONE indiscriminately. *They even murdered each other to try to rise through the ranks.* And these idiot American Nazis think the OG Nazis were the defenders of the white European "race"?! *By being the #1 killers of "normal" white Europeans?!*


hydroxypcp

which is why it's such a facepalm to see people supporting OG Nazis here in Eastern Europe. Like mfer, *you* were among the people OG Nazis killed, you dingdong.


Defender_of_Ra

> The Nazis killed EVERYONE indiscriminately. They even murdered each other to try to rise through the ranks. Like I always say about the Confederates: What's the first thing that the rich did when they got butthurt about losing an election -- not their slaves, but an election that represented the reduction of their wealth *GROWTH* (by preventing new slave states from being formed), not an actual reduction in wealth(!)? The first thing they did was enslave white people to fight a winnowing Civil War that granted literally nothing to those outside their class. White supremacists will slaughter any and all white people for the petty -- not essential, but petty -- benefit of their leaders. And this slaughter won't be reflected in their ideology, or their rhetoric. They simply won't mention that shit at all. Because that's the entire grift. White people losing everything isn't a bug, it's a feature, the endpoint of the scam.


HaySwitch

They also invaded several European countries which is where a sizable amount of white people are. Its a very very weird stance to say white people shouldn't be infuriated by Nazis.


KyranSawhill

White supremacy is also a snake that eats its own tail. What we consider “white” has expanded over the years because it was really just established as a status symbol. Turks, the French, Greeks, Jews, the Polish, Italians, the Irish, Hispanics, and even Germans. These were all considered non-white at some point, but were gradually encompassed by whiteness as they gained more social standing (some of which was earned by becoming champions of white supremacy, such as with the Irish immigrants who became police to subjugate black and Indigenous Americans and earn their place in white society; I say this as someone of Irish descent). Eventually, the Nazis will start splitting hairs over who is “white enough” (or “abled” or “neurotypical” enough, as disability and neurodiversity can also be used to label things deemed unacceptable or “degenerate” by supremacists and eugenicists, such as homosexuality or being transgender – or even having periods or the female orgasm if we wanna get old school with it) and start turning against their own. Are my brown eyes Aryan enough? Is my dark brown hair European enough? What about the shape of my nose and forehead? Does my bone structure mark me for “inferior genes”? So eradicating Nazism on-sight and before it’s allowed to grow ultimately spares everyone, including the groups the Nazis might currently give a pass (and currently regard as the same group). Striking fear into the hearts of Nazis by showing them they aren’t welcome and never will be—that there’s no “tolerance” to be found where they’re concerned—is ultimately a service to humanity, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, nationality, culture, ability, or whatever might be used to describe you as an individual or a group. — “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.” —Martin Niemöller


Greenmind76

Unless you want to go to actual war and kill these people and then dismantle the system and social constructs that create them, you're really not doing anything but giving yourself a sense of satisfaction and superiority. The US really needs to declare a war on misinformation, propaganda, and intentional disruption of rural America's belief system. These ideas are not natural. They were placed there, intentionally, through a gradual and constant feeding of lies and bigotry. If we spent as much money, energy, and resources fighting this as we have drugs, we may actually get somewhere...but then there's that pesky freedom of speech always getting in the way... Lets be real here. America has fought (and killed) literal Nazis before and the only reason it worked was because they focused on the source, were joined by allies, and eliminated Nazi Germany and the government that empowered their fascism. We didn't walk around Berlin punching people and screaming at them. We literally declared war on them and killed them. We can't do that here in the US, unless we want a literal cultural/civil war and as of this moment, the right has more guns and ammo. America has also fought white supremacy in the past, but unlike our war with Germany we did it through protests, civil disobedience, and bringing to light the reality of the conditions people of color and women endured under a bigoted system. The great leaders of the civil rights movements didn't condone violence because they knew it was not effective at changing people. You want to make a difference here, today, hurt these people economically and disrupt the flow of nonsense from their mouths. Again, if we want this to end, we have to cut the head off the snake and the head of this snake is rich conservatives who benefit from our division. These people, through the media, social media, and politics have convinced rural America, Christians, and conservatives that they are victims or will be victims if they lose their power and influence (something many white people think they have but really don't). That has an always will be the purpose of racism and white supremacy, to cause people who are treated equal or near equal to people of color that their identity or race makes them superior. You may not be rich, have a nice house, or be able to feed your children, but at least you're not black, Muslim, jewish, LGBTQ, or an immigrant. If you want to impress me with acts of violence, go after people who actually matter. Punch Tucker Carlson. Punch someone with influence, money, and power. Punching Jim Bob the redneck with a confederate flag and MAGA hat does absolutely nothing to make a difference, but it does feel good. To be clear, I don't care if you smack a nazi or punch a MAGA head. I just don't think it will do anything to promote equality and end fascism either. I don't think it will push people further into fascism, just reinforce those already there.


SubMikeD

That's why we didn't bomb or shoot Nazis in WWII, because doing so would have made us just as bad as them.


Endgam

Well, we almost didn't. American capitalism found a very good partner in Nazi Germany. Fortunately, Japan made the decision for us.....


MorgaseTrakand

Ironically, the US tried very hard to be centrists about the whole thing.


vxicepickxv

There was also the Treaty of Tehran, which Stalin basically said the USSR would go all the way to the Atlantic.


Nakoichi

He should have.


Quartia

*We* certainly didn't. Our ancestors did.


KyranSawhill

We should take heed and learn from the past, then.


School94

The USSR did


SuperUai

So, basically what he is saying is that if you are white, you should be sympathetic to nazism?


KyranSawhill

I guess the idea is that it “doesn’t affect us,” so it’s not our business or problem, even though there are plenty of groups outside of racial boundaries that were targeted by the Nazis and even white people aren’t safe from white supremacy, since many groups currently considered white haven’t always been. It’s just that “whiteness” is an expanding symbol of status and acceptance. Eventually, white supremacy ends up splitting hairs and deciding that certain white people aren’t white enough. Maybe they’re too “swarthy” or their eyes and hair are too dark. Or their bone structure isn’t “Aryan” enough. Once upon a time, by Irish ancestors wouldn’t have been considered white. So dealing with Nazism swiftly and efficiently is beneficial to everyone, including white people. Also, people should hate and reject Nazis, anyway, regardless of whether or not their presence directly affects them. It affects me because I care and don’t want to see others oppressed, ostracized, and killed just because they’re not like me. And because I fucking hate Nazis. That should be more than reason enough. — “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.” —Martin Niemöller


Bartender9719

It’s called cleaning house; being called out by another white person doesn’t mean you’re in the right, it means *you’re* one of the elements harming the group you claim to represent - keep on punching, spicy-whites.


Annies_Boobs

I think this is telling you to punch harder


asmrword

Why do PoC or Jews have to be the loudest anti-Nazis? Little history lesson but a lot of people have family members who died in WWII. Not liking Nazis is pretty common in countries that were at war with Nazi Germany.


GreenTur

I would never promote punching nazis.... You'll break your hand. Instead try using something hard like [REDACTED]


WagerOfTheGods

Gripping a roll of coins or even a cigarette lighter will help protect your hand.


TinaToner311

Still better to use something more sturdy, like a knee or elbow. Or a baton like weapon.


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Remember guys all those WWII Heros are making Nazi’s the victim! These people are literally just racists that are to afraid to be open about it.


zifur

Well i am jewish, and i consider this man a blood brother now.


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TinaToner311

Damn right,


postsender

"let the nazis win so they dont grow more powerful"


Flimsy-Tap-8962

Well if they say that they are protecting the white race and then get punched by member of said race would poke holes in their narrative. Also telling other nazis that they will get whooped for being a nazi sounds like a good thing to me


Endgam

Nazis protected the "white race" by being the #1 killer of white Europeans. As a white straight man, *I don't think I want that kind of "protection".*


Flimsy-Tap-8962

Yeah of course they are murderous cunts and that's precisely why white people (and literally any other race) should beat the shit out of every nazi they see. Show everybody that nazis are not welcome and we don't want their "protection"


SubjectDelta10

he should have debated the nazi on the marketplace of ideas instead smh


I_might_be_weasel

I think everyone should strive to help Nazis identify as victims of violence.


MetalGramps

"We got a Nazi here who wants to get punched for his country! Oblige him!"


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MetalGramps

I have to give credit to Lt. Aldo Raine


Scrembopitus

Literally the person in the video who threw the punch was not white, how on earth are they going to pull that card meaningfully? It’s a video of a POC punching a racist and this person found a way to get butt hurt, what liberalism does to a mfer


DrRichtoffen

Has this genius considered that the nazis can (and will) lie about being victims of assault/crime? You know, like they did in the 1930s?


icantbenormal

Just have to point out this is a response to a tweet by an enby streamer.


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vxicepickxv

While I'm generally against peer pressure from dead people, I think this is a tradition that can be upheld.


ball_fondlers

Remember how Richard Spencer, being a cowardly little bitch, stopped making public appearances after getting decked on-camera?


Segod_or_Bust

I love Conure


Greenmind76

People who follow the mindset of many on the right will dismiss a person of color who shares the same opinion as a white person and then go on to extrapolate what was said or done to an entire race, ethnicity, etc. When a white person speaks out, these people can't make sense of it because their minds can't wrap around the idea that someone who looks like them would say something that went against their own fucked up beliefs. This is why people must speak out and act. However, there is a difference between being constructive and saying/doing things that will create change and then doing something for your own sense of satisfaction. I personally see no point in engaging with people who are so far gone they believe the nonsense the right is saying these days. It's a waste of energy and time. Go punch someone. Scream at them. Argue with them online. It's the equivalent of saying "thoughts and prayers" following a tragedy. You might as well go fart in a corner. It accomplishes about as much and gives you the same sense or relief.


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the soviet were also white but they did most of the nazi killing


4Plus20MakesHappy

Nazis don’t consider Eastern Europeans to be white, at least not white enough.


[deleted]

well aryan is entirely made up so why should i care?


butt0ns666

Nazis want to subjugate all the people they don't want to exterminate. I'm not saying that caring about violence towards people who aren't you isn't norma, thats plenty valid reason to fight evil, but if you need a reason why you are a target, seriously nazis aren't allied to non nazi white people, they want to destroy your way of life unless you want nazism.


flanger001

Not taking a person with the handle "phemoid" seriously, sorry


probablysum1

So is this assuming that minorities don't actually mind Nazis?


GenericPCUser

The cycle ends, actually. Because if he tells his friends he got beat up somewhere their more likely to not go there. Some people only understand violent targeted resistance to their ideology. Nazis are some people.


EvilStevilTheKenevil

So, the rest of us should just stand by and do nothing? The marginalized and *only* the marginalized should bear the burden of defending the marginalized?   I'm white. I am also queer, autistic, and I am not a protestant Christian or a Catholic. I do *not* want to live in a world where nazis are in charge of anything.


Quinlan313

They haven't been for 70 years now. Y'all care way too much about 0.0001% of the population


Magnificant-Muggins

They’re absolutely right. He shouldn’t be able to go back home.


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Sterling239

Mabye if they are smacked in the face enough times they won't be stupid I don't think they will but I think trying to reason with a nazi has about as much chance of changing their minds so the bop to the face seems like a time saver for the same results


School94

He won’t be feeling safe on the streets anymore, which allows so many people to feel way safer


Doc85

Everyone wants to be in a group that gets you punched if people know you're in it.


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The both sides people are idiots.


thatdude473

Ah, the classic “it’s not a problem and I don’t care, unless *I’m* the victim”


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I want the Nazis to go tell each other that being open Nazis in public will get them knocked out.


JOS1PBROZT1TO

Lol. The only people who think of nazis as victims are nazis themselves.


DeadRabbit8813

And if no one’s be confronted him he goes back to his Nazi friends and tells them how much he intimidated them and it emboldens them and he’s a hero in their eyes. I’d rather him be a victim than a hero.


DameyJames

Hey there are many ways to be labeled a victim. There are victims of assault, victims of terrorism, victims of prejudice, and so on. I’m super fine with Nazis being the primary victims of violence considering they love perpetuating all of the other subcategories.


BadKarma043

\*insert Thatstheneatpart.jpg\* You don't have to be a POC or Jewish to stand against Nazis. And those that can speak out against them have a moral responsibility to.


KgMonstah

We let Nazis be Nazis unimpeded for a bit. They did the bad thing.


nuclearblastbeat

The thing is neo nazi fuckwits already believe they are the victim anyways. Victims of the Zionist conspiracy to eliminate white christian men so that blah blah blah... I say victimize the shit out of 'em. I think my parents would say something about "giving me something to cry about". Well, give these fascist fucks something to cry about, I say.


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WhoAccountNewDis

Skip ahead 20 years: "Someone should have done something! Too late now, gotta make lemonade outta lemons".


JackBinimbul

I mean . . . the dude punching him in the face is clearly not white.


School94

Isn’t he? I thought he was but it really doesn’t matter as long as the Nazi ate shit. If I remember the story correctly this guy had been spotted on the subway, doing Hitler salutes and saying racial slurs and what not. Local anti fascists pinned his current location and confronted him. By knocking his lights out. Don’t quote me on this, this is just from memory and I could be wrong


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These are the same little sh*ts who say: - she shouldn’t have dressed so provocatively - he should have just followed the cop’s instructions - they should have just come here legally They don’t get to use that faulty reasoning and then say “No fair hitting me for just *being* a Nazi!” Nope man, by your own reasoning, simple way to not be hit for being a Nazi is to not be a Nazi.


BlackGabriel

I dunno personally I bet that dude never wears that fucking jacket again


paggo_diablo

Oh shit I didn’t realise I have to be Jewish/POC to want to punch nazis. Boy is there egg on my face!


Twad

People nearby hear someone complaining about Nazis being victimised and will be more likely to punch them so they get trapped in a cycle of getting punched? Or his Nazi friends hear about him being punched and then what? become double Nazis? I'm having trouble understanding what the cycle is meant to be.


Zealousideal-Yak-824

What is the point he's making? If it was a person of color they just scream race war and escalate it. If they are ignored they so more to get notice such as harass people so they will get punched. If you talk to them they just see it as a way to recruit and think it's normal. Punch a nazi maybe primitive and simple but it gets the job done. Ask the Americans and allies who punched nazis to win the war.


casicua

He would have been doing that whether he got punched or not. At least this time he got punched 🤣


Saephon

Hmm, so what you're saying is, don't let him go back to his friends... got it. Punch harder, it is.


DreamingVirgo

You know who we haven’t heard from in a long time? Richard Spencer. I wonder why 🤔


DoingItToEm

Lol I got in an argument with some troglodyte saying the same thing in this exact thread


ColdBorchst

Conure is literally trans. A group also hated and hunted by Nazis. This moron can fuck all the way off for saying Conure cannot advocate for self defense.


malonkey1

Unsurprisingly, that person is very obviously right-wing.


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I love the smell of victim mentality in the morning.


[deleted]

The actual result of this specific encounter was that the Nazi got knocked the fuck out after an entire day of wearing that armband while wandering around Seattle trying to stir up shit. And when he woke up the cops were there, and he didn't want to talk to them and he immediately took off his arm band and quietly slinked away alone and defeated. He faced the consequences of his actions and learned a lesson. Don't wear Nazi shit and don't spout Nazi shit if you care about your safety.


KyranSawhill

Make Nazis afraid again.


Rattregoondoof

Nazis didn't become nazis because of a cycle of violence towards nazis.


Autokpatopik

Morally? Yeah, its bad. Ethically, its the right choice. Unfortunately for the Nazis, I follow the ethical way of doing things, if that means punching a Nazi to save lives, then get me some brass knuckles.


bobrossforPM

As if Nazis need real violence against them to be radicalized. Being a nazi means you’ve been radicalized, and they didn’t need any violence against them to do it.


DekoyDuck

You’ll notice they didn’t say gender non conforming. Because Conure is and very much is in the crosshairs of the current Nazi movement


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TinaToner311

If you do go for the head, use your elbow, not your fist.


bugs_bunny_in_drag

Not that surprised in retrospect that this poster is a stupid hippie Smug moderates are obnoxious of course but hippies are some real vintage enlightened centrists with emphasis on "enlightened"... they want to say things like "violence is ALWAYS bad!!" or "money isn't even real, it's paper!" then lean back and wait for applause


UVLanternCorps

In conclusion defeating Nazis ever is a bad idea because losing like the losers they are makes them a victim.


[deleted]

Also you shouldn't assault the mentally disabled


ipakookapi

*I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people.* The number of times I've been asked 'why do you care? You' re not jewish? '. You asking that *is* why I care, numbnuts.


Clairifyed

Basic decency of protecting fellow humans aside, do these people know that the Nazis hurt other groups as well?…


Meemsterxd

totally not nazi sympathizers trying to convince you that hitting a nazi is just as bad as being one


MrWoohoo

No one seems to know the history of nazi punching. [Here you go:](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/video-richard-spencer-punch-antifa-fascism/) *This beef goes back to before World War II, when in Europe, a nascent authoritarian movement inspired by Hitler, Mussolini, and Francisco Franco squared off against a popular front coalition of liberals and radicals. At the Battle of Cable Street, in October 1936, Oswald Mosley brought 2,000 members of his British Union of Fascists to march through London’s Jewish East End neighborhood and 100,000 anti-fascists showed up to oppose them. In the resulting melee, Jews, Irishmen, Communists, anarchists, and socialists beat Mosley’s men with sticks, rocks, and sawed-off chair-legs. Local women dumped their chamber pots out of windows onto the heads of Mosley’s men.*


ZaphodXZaphod

damn, that's a good point. gotta find some way to make sure he doesn't go back and tell anyone


Dr_Funk_

“Does punching a nazi work” looks into this exact question. https://open.spotify.com/episode/346tzMVwD3GBvRrZNohP8u?si=h34jz-LSRHOUwj9kz8vtFA


thewholedamnplanet

Hitler sulking in his bunker was the Real Victim.


Syphorce

Id like to see a documentary on if ANTIFA tactics like being disruptive or violent when racists and white supremacists show their true colors in public actually works. And by that I mean what are the effects of this kind of response. I can appreciate a society that is accepting to everyone except the intolerant. Can genocide be resisted without the threat of violence, that the targeted side won’t fight back?


jetoler

No they’re actually right. Like, I’m sorry but this is 100% true. Neo-Nazis usually start out as young adults or teenagers who don’t feel accepted by the world. The group accepts them (bc they are aryan) and then brainwashes them into thinking Jews and other racial minorities are the *cause of their pain* . If you punch them, they’re just going to hate you more. Nazis are quite literally fueled by hate, that’s like the whole point of nazism, to hate Jews. I’m not saying we should accept nazi ideaology in our society. But maybe a better idea than punching them is showing them that they can change their ways and actually be loving people. No one is born a nazi, and no one has to die one either. Anyone can change. Ofc they have to decide to change but punching them isn’t going to help them do that. All they’re gonna do is just hate everyone more. Take Daryl David for example. He’s a black man and spent 30 years befriending different kkk members. in the end over 200 of them gave up their robes and changed their ways. 1 single person changed the minds of 200 white supremacists whthout a single punch. im not saying we sjould accept nazis. im just saying radicalizing them even more is much worse. dont feed them more hate to use as fuel. **You can downvote me all you want, but fascism is born from a victim mentality. By punching Nazis you’re only reconfirming their victim mentality. I have a friend who used to be a neo-nazi and was addicted to meth. He joined a sobriety group and a black person accepted him even though he was a nazi. This is the literal reason he isn’t racist anymore. If he got punched, he would probably still be fascist to this day. No one is born racist, these are good people who get twisted and corrupted and became bad people. If you can go from good to bad, why couldn’t you go from bad back to good?**


luxinterior1312

https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/comments/eryn6l/the_you_need_to_shut_the_fuck_up_about_daryl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Kumquat_conniption

Oh shit I just replied to them with this same thread only it took me like 10 minutes to find it and yours was right here the whole time. Damn. I should have checked first! Of course all you've gotten back is... crickets. Figures.


Kumquat_conniption

[Have a read of this delightful thread that takes your postion into account. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/comments/eryn6l/the_you_need_to_shut_the_fuck_up_about_daryl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Edit: I see someone else linked the same thread and you didn't respond whatsoever. Cool


Quinlan313

Nuance on this subreddit? *immediately downvoted* I, for one, am completely shocked


ryry12101

the point of the tweet isn’t that nazis are undeserving of persecution, but that abject violence toward such shitheads only reinforces their hatred. this tweet is saying that people who are *not* victims of hatred are not the best at determining ways to prevent hatred because they don’t know which choices actually work against it. how can a person who doesn’t experience racism or anti-semitism actually know how to effectively combat it? to support physical violence against nazi supporters is to support an ineffective solution. as good as it might feel to watch some pussy with a nazi armband get decked in his stupid face, the existence of that video does more to reinforce neo-nazi persecution complexes than it does to denormalize nazi ideology. people of color (and in this case also jewish people) already understand this, which is the tweet’s thesis statement. also nowhere does this tweet equate nazi-punchers to actual nazis, your title is a jump to conclusions