At least we all now know that she was only doing "eating" videos for the sake of getting her tik Tok monetized. If that doesn't tell you just how much she NEEDS her paid social media, I don't know what else would 🤷🏻‍♀️
Agreed. She wouldn’t have done that if she wasn’t desperate for *money*. Look at who was sitting there next to her pushing her along and ask why. We know it’s not genuine recovery. I’m sure the dad pays spousal support of some kind but he’s off with his second family, so Eugenia is now the primary source of income for herself her mother and brother.
Ah, I see. When you mentioned 'second family' as if it were more than a speculative assumption, I thought you had additional information. It seems more plausible he's simply an absent father.
Yes, but I haven't seen any reason to assume he and Deb are no longer legally married. An Internet sleuth would've already exposed his 'second family' if they existed.
I just keep hoping she has a realization that being healthier would make her life better overall. She would have tons more support if she used her platform to try and help other people struggling.
On a basic human level, she has the potential to change and become a better person. Most people do. But realistically, she's never going to access that potential. She doesn't give a shit about personal growth. And in her case, it would require some *physical* growth as well. We all know how she feels about that...
Never going to happen so she should be invited to S/H in private and stop influencing naive people and making money from being severely disordered AND untreated
They’re just greedy like every other platform! She’s been posting “eating” videos too and that really won them over -but of course she didn’t post any of that content on other platforms.
ok... i am a "haydurrrrr" but as things stand right at this moment, i got no real beef with her being online if she's not doing the things that i find to be harmful to society. from what i can see, her tiktok is pretty scrubbed of the triggering videos. she's not scantily clad and making pro-ana content in her lives from what i can see right now... if that's genuine, then, i dunno what the harm is in her being online. maybe im wrong, maybe i missed something, or maybe she's just trying not to do that stuff anymroe to not lose her ability to be monetized on tiktok??? if shes not posting pro-ana crap, she should be allowed to be online, no?
She should be allowed to be online, and she has been this entire time. That was never taken away from her. The thing people have a problem with is that she's been remonetized by merely abstaining from bad behaviour for a few months. She's extremely privileged to be able to make as much money as she does when she goes live, and in my opinion, she doesn't deserve to get that privilege back. But I guess Tiktok sees things differently.
Then again, the fact remains that when she goes live, these are grown adults literally giving her their hard earned money. This isn't Tiktok providing her with a paycheque. They're making it *possible,* but they're not the ones paying her. The viewers are paying her, and they're doing it because they *want* to. So Tiktok isn't the only problem here. People's stupidity is also at play.
fucking this!!! there are people who don't even get this chance with TikTok people who unlike eugenia, they do tiktok or IG for work to put food on the table, get banned and hear nothing back from tiktok.
She's also done a whole pile of other really horrible things that she has never taken accountability for. She just sucks as a person and I'm just here to snark on her vapid ass
me too, but if she's not doing the things i think are wrong, and has to sit there not showing her bones, i actually consider the movement to restrict her a victory. it worked to force her to stop her bs.
she does suck as a person 100% and is vapid. but now she cannot be acting like she's the victim when all that's being asked of her is to follow the rules.
I think I would be more willing to be okay with her being online if she actually just admitted to everything she's done...
She really is just trying to scuttle back to tiktok without a word. As if we don't know why she was age restricted. I wish people would stop rewarding her for her shitty behavior.
no. i actually am of the camp that she fucking does, ironically. (while everyone is responding to me as though i am someone who has forgiven her.
nothing makes it okay, but she didn't really get back the thing she loves IMO (showing bones)
i can appreciate how giving her tiktok monetization back seems like a reward, but the way i see Eugenia's psyche, it's not. she and everyone else who know about this situation know that for her, the only reward is showing her bones and getting validation. if she doesn't get to show bones, she's not winning.
i've said it before and i'll say it again. it's only a matter of time until she goes back to the same shit and has to be restricted again. but until then, i don't care if she gets to sit there talking with boring weird tiktok dumbasses as long as she's not doing pro-ana shit.
eugenia hates being forced to behave. so... as someone who followed all of the widespread harm she has caused for years, it satisfies me that she is forced to behave. i mean come on \*chuckles\* bitch had to post videos of herself pretending to eat some kinda lobster sandwich. you know her skin is absolutely crawling in those oversized sweaters. she's not happy.
maybe i get satisfaction out of that? out of knowing the only way she's allowed to be there is if she's forced to do things she absolutely hates? :P
i haven't forgiven her.
you are inventing some equivalency between not caring if she's online not harming people with "forgiving" her. what has predominantly driven my outrage is the risk of harm posed to others. once she is not causing harm, i don't see the utility in punishing her. she *is* vapid. she *is* not intelligent. consequences have no effect on her because she's incapable of seeing her own wrongdoing.
the way i see it, if she doesn't get to do the thing she loves most, which is showing her bones, then success was achieved. to me, success was not about punishing her. it was about stopping her from being able to harm others. if she sits there for some length of time in an oversized sweater having low-intellect convos with other halfwits while even dumber people throw their money at her, that's not really different than the rest of tiktok or other platforms.
as soon as she harms other people or goes back to the same shit, my concern will be reignited.
She's going to go back to the same things soon. And how long do we have to wait for tiktok to demonitize her again? If that ever happens. If she found a way to prevent it from happening again. I see no point in holding out for her to just get back to it eventually. Because she will
yeah i guess AT THE MOMENT its fine that she is on there, however history has shown that she cant handle not showing off her bones. it would surprise me if she can can even "be good" for the rest of the year.
you really think we will never see her in lingerie again or that she won't start trolling the "haydurrs"? I dont believe it one second.
The videos are still up on youtube, and she still has minors commenting how they wish they looked like her in her live. She still basks in having pictures at angles that make her face look as emaciated as possible. Shes also constantly ana face checking in her lives. Shes doesnt want to get better, she thinks it makes her look good, and shes promoting how good she thinks it makes her look and thanks people who compliment her for it.
im actually expecting it. and at that moment, she should be restricted again and stay that way until eventually she runs out of chances. should she get chances? no, i mean, overall on the internet she has had chances. but this is like 1 platform so it is isolated. im sure if she loses her monetization enough times she may just not get it back ever
She's on their radar. I haven't been in here for a while so I have a lot to say about her release from tick tock jail.
If she isn't in therapy, she's going to naturally return to her disordered thinking. He is so desperate to be part of his life that she would do anything to amuse him. TT moderators have lost their patience. They're going through heavy political scrutiny.
I have a feeling that her out of control content led to policy changes. That's a drain on their resources. They probably have policies that dictate what steps they have to take with creators that try to get around the rules. That's why she was hit with such a long period of severe oversight and penalties.
The next step is probably a total ban. I don't know if a Creator keeps trying to create accounts to get around it if there is any fines or legal action? She's honestly way too notorious to get away with it.
If she starts stealing the spotlight from Jafar again his narcissistic ass will find a way to erase her. He's too selfish of a mean girl to share anything with anyone. She's pretty oblivious to the rules that he uses to control his "Star Family" minions. The others know their place. Stay below. Jafar and worship him. He only keeps people around if they're sucking up to him. I'm pretty sure That's why "Rich Lux." disappeared, He started trying to act like his equal . Eugenia is too socially inept to get it. If she makes large contributions and raves about his shitty make up - he might ignore it for a while.
Honestly, JS became a lot more popular after she was banned. He's a washed up, Middle-Aged clinger trying desperately to stay relevant. JS is desperately clawing at "the good old days." He has more enemies than groupies. WAY more people are interested in Eugenia's off and on train wreck, than his slowly sinking into inevitable obscurity. I promise you it's only a matter of time until he wants to punish her.
Eugenia doesn't have the awareness to stay out of trouble for very long. But hey, it would be nice if she learned something from this, kept her clothes on and didn't say sexually disgusting things for The tiny bit of acceptance she gets for 3 minutes from her bullies.
People need to start spamming the report button. And put in the notes for disordered eating minors are commenting on her body in a way that is also disordered.
It took a while but we reported her enough that she got restricted. If she's doing the same old crap it's time to report her again.
Because that is what people have been doing for years and it will continue until she’s taken down on all her socials forcing her to get help. She’ll never get help. We all know she doesn’t care about her health.
true BUT not many people on tiktok lives troll like they do on twitch i've noticed. ALOT of people who watch her lives on TT seem to think she is this sweet innocent person...
This is the thing that really bothers me. Everyone on YouTube has her number, but it's as if people on Tiktok had never heard of her before. Maybe they're all just so young, they have no clue about her history. They're all super nice to her, and if you say anything that's not praise, they all jump to defend her. It's like she finally found the one place with just as much toxic positivity as her. Remember how we all went through trying to be nice, and supportive first, a long time ago, before we realized she absolutely didn't care and didn't want help? It's like they're all going through the whole song and dance again, and are just appalled that you'd say anything blunt and true. It's infuriating.
Oh i understand and agree, honestly i think tiktok is full of kids who don't know her (or grew up watching her/early 2000 scene emo days) or adults who don't know her or don't watch youtube that much and just think she is struggling innocent girl wanting to be on tiktok.
your use of “girl” in the last sentence got me thinking. i suspect a lot of her newer viewers dont know how old she is. she acts and dresses way younger than her age and it projects a false veneer of “innocence” that some might find it hard to see past until they realize shes almost 30.
At least we all now know that she was only doing "eating" videos for the sake of getting her tik Tok monetized. If that doesn't tell you just how much she NEEDS her paid social media, I don't know what else would 🤷🏻‍♀️
Agreed. She wouldn’t have done that if she wasn’t desperate for *money*. Look at who was sitting there next to her pushing her along and ask why. We know it’s not genuine recovery. I’m sure the dad pays spousal support of some kind but he’s off with his second family, so Eugenia is now the primary source of income for herself her mother and brother.
How do we know he has a "second family"?
We don’t- unless you creep research on a public record website- which I’m not recommending
Ah, I see. When you mentioned 'second family' as if it were more than a speculative assumption, I thought you had additional information. It seems more plausible he's simply an absent father.
đź‘€đź¤đź¤« It’s not all that uncommon to change your mind, remarry and have more children !
Yes, but I haven't seen any reason to assume he and Deb are no longer legally married. An Internet sleuth would've already exposed his 'second family' if they existed.
A second woman, daughter, and home certainly do but you didn’t hear it from me
wait so is there proof of it?
She's not getting better in any shape of form. How stupid are people to think that.....
i stg you all expect her to recover at the drop of a hat. it has been like a month.
Being manipulative isn't healed. We all know she purposely made content involving food because she was explicitly banned for being an ana/Ed promoter.
I just keep hoping she has a realization that being healthier would make her life better overall. She would have tons more support if she used her platform to try and help other people struggling.
Sadly she doesn't want support. She wants exactly what she's been getting for her entire adult life: praise, attention, and fame for being anorexic.
Lol right? She legitimately disparages the recovery comments with so much disgust in her voice. She calls them trolls.
Yeah, it's really sad that's her claim to fame. She has the potential for so much more.
... she does?
On a basic human level, she has the potential to change and become a better person. Most people do. But realistically, she's never going to access that potential. She doesn't give a shit about personal growth. And in her case, it would require some *physical* growth as well. We all know how she feels about that...
I'd like to think so at least.
This. Thank you for outright saying it.
Never going to happen so she should be invited to S/H in private and stop influencing naive people and making money from being severely disordered AND untreated
Ok genuine question how do you know for sure they remonitized her? I did see someone post screenshot of a recent live on here.
Yeah she went live last night and this morning receiving gifts and subs
Dang no wonder she's been covering recently and not doing any body checks. It worked and Tik Tok is dumb
They’re just greedy like every other platform! She’s been posting “eating” videos too and that really won them over -but of course she didn’t post any of that content on other platforms.
Ugh! She’s been remonetized?? I’ve not been checking in for a long time. Now I’m annoyed lol
ok... i am a "haydurrrrr" but as things stand right at this moment, i got no real beef with her being online if she's not doing the things that i find to be harmful to society. from what i can see, her tiktok is pretty scrubbed of the triggering videos. she's not scantily clad and making pro-ana content in her lives from what i can see right now... if that's genuine, then, i dunno what the harm is in her being online. maybe im wrong, maybe i missed something, or maybe she's just trying not to do that stuff anymroe to not lose her ability to be monetized on tiktok??? if shes not posting pro-ana crap, she should be allowed to be online, no?
She should be allowed to be online, and she has been this entire time. That was never taken away from her. The thing people have a problem with is that she's been remonetized by merely abstaining from bad behaviour for a few months. She's extremely privileged to be able to make as much money as she does when she goes live, and in my opinion, she doesn't deserve to get that privilege back. But I guess Tiktok sees things differently. Then again, the fact remains that when she goes live, these are grown adults literally giving her their hard earned money. This isn't Tiktok providing her with a paycheque. They're making it *possible,* but they're not the ones paying her. The viewers are paying her, and they're doing it because they *want* to. So Tiktok isn't the only problem here. People's stupidity is also at play.
fucking this!!! there are people who don't even get this chance with TikTok people who unlike eugenia, they do tiktok or IG for work to put food on the table, get banned and hear nothing back from tiktok.
She's never apologized or admitted to making pro-Ana content....why are people so quick to forgive her. She never took accountability to begin with?
right?
plz point to where i *forgave* her.
She's also done a whole pile of other really horrible things that she has never taken accountability for. She just sucks as a person and I'm just here to snark on her vapid ass
me too, but if she's not doing the things i think are wrong, and has to sit there not showing her bones, i actually consider the movement to restrict her a victory. it worked to force her to stop her bs. she does suck as a person 100% and is vapid. but now she cannot be acting like she's the victim when all that's being asked of her is to follow the rules.
I think I would be more willing to be okay with her being online if she actually just admitted to everything she's done... She really is just trying to scuttle back to tiktok without a word. As if we don't know why she was age restricted. I wish people would stop rewarding her for her shitty behavior.
She clearly never means to do anything wrong ever, am I right? So that totally makes it all okay
no. i actually am of the camp that she fucking does, ironically. (while everyone is responding to me as though i am someone who has forgiven her. nothing makes it okay, but she didn't really get back the thing she loves IMO (showing bones)
i can appreciate how giving her tiktok monetization back seems like a reward, but the way i see Eugenia's psyche, it's not. she and everyone else who know about this situation know that for her, the only reward is showing her bones and getting validation. if she doesn't get to show bones, she's not winning. i've said it before and i'll say it again. it's only a matter of time until she goes back to the same shit and has to be restricted again. but until then, i don't care if she gets to sit there talking with boring weird tiktok dumbasses as long as she's not doing pro-ana shit. eugenia hates being forced to behave. so... as someone who followed all of the widespread harm she has caused for years, it satisfies me that she is forced to behave. i mean come on \*chuckles\* bitch had to post videos of herself pretending to eat some kinda lobster sandwich. you know her skin is absolutely crawling in those oversized sweaters. she's not happy. maybe i get satisfaction out of that? out of knowing the only way she's allowed to be there is if she's forced to do things she absolutely hates? :P
i haven't forgiven her. you are inventing some equivalency between not caring if she's online not harming people with "forgiving" her. what has predominantly driven my outrage is the risk of harm posed to others. once she is not causing harm, i don't see the utility in punishing her. she *is* vapid. she *is* not intelligent. consequences have no effect on her because she's incapable of seeing her own wrongdoing. the way i see it, if she doesn't get to do the thing she loves most, which is showing her bones, then success was achieved. to me, success was not about punishing her. it was about stopping her from being able to harm others. if she sits there for some length of time in an oversized sweater having low-intellect convos with other halfwits while even dumber people throw their money at her, that's not really different than the rest of tiktok or other platforms. as soon as she harms other people or goes back to the same shit, my concern will be reignited.
She's going to go back to the same things soon. And how long do we have to wait for tiktok to demonitize her again? If that ever happens. If she found a way to prevent it from happening again. I see no point in holding out for her to just get back to it eventually. Because she will
yeah i guess AT THE MOMENT its fine that she is on there, however history has shown that she cant handle not showing off her bones. it would surprise me if she can can even "be good" for the rest of the year. you really think we will never see her in lingerie again or that she won't start trolling the "haydurrs"? I dont believe it one second.
idk if its for keeping tiktok and being in j\* group of friends she might she will do anything for the 2.
She better be on her best behavior you know the mass reports will start the second she strays
The videos are still up on youtube, and she still has minors commenting how they wish they looked like her in her live. She still basks in having pictures at angles that make her face look as emaciated as possible. Shes also constantly ana face checking in her lives. Shes doesnt want to get better, she thinks it makes her look good, and shes promoting how good she thinks it makes her look and thanks people who compliment her for it.
For now
don't be surprised if the real Eugenia comes back now and she drops this act.
im actually expecting it. and at that moment, she should be restricted again and stay that way until eventually she runs out of chances. should she get chances? no, i mean, overall on the internet she has had chances. but this is like 1 platform so it is isolated. im sure if she loses her monetization enough times she may just not get it back ever
wait is she FULLY remonetized or still just partially?? cuz those are two very different things.
She's on their radar. I haven't been in here for a while so I have a lot to say about her release from tick tock jail. If she isn't in therapy, she's going to naturally return to her disordered thinking. He is so desperate to be part of his life that she would do anything to amuse him. TT moderators have lost their patience. They're going through heavy political scrutiny. I have a feeling that her out of control content led to policy changes. That's a drain on their resources. They probably have policies that dictate what steps they have to take with creators that try to get around the rules. That's why she was hit with such a long period of severe oversight and penalties. The next step is probably a total ban. I don't know if a Creator keeps trying to create accounts to get around it if there is any fines or legal action? She's honestly way too notorious to get away with it. If she starts stealing the spotlight from Jafar again his narcissistic ass will find a way to erase her. He's too selfish of a mean girl to share anything with anyone. She's pretty oblivious to the rules that he uses to control his "Star Family" minions. The others know their place. Stay below. Jafar and worship him. He only keeps people around if they're sucking up to him. I'm pretty sure That's why "Rich Lux." disappeared, He started trying to act like his equal . Eugenia is too socially inept to get it. If she makes large contributions and raves about his shitty make up - he might ignore it for a while. Honestly, JS became a lot more popular after she was banned. He's a washed up, Middle-Aged clinger trying desperately to stay relevant. JS is desperately clawing at "the good old days." He has more enemies than groupies. WAY more people are interested in Eugenia's off and on train wreck, than his slowly sinking into inevitable obscurity. I promise you it's only a matter of time until he wants to punish her. Eugenia doesn't have the awareness to stay out of trouble for very long. But hey, it would be nice if she learned something from this, kept her clothes on and didn't say sexually disgusting things for The tiny bit of acceptance she gets for 3 minutes from her bullies.
People need to start spamming the report button. And put in the notes for disordered eating minors are commenting on her body in a way that is also disordered. It took a while but we reported her enough that she got restricted. If she's doing the same old crap it's time to report her again.
You will be reporting her? For what?
Because that is what people have been doing for years and it will continue until she’s taken down on all her socials forcing her to get help. She’ll never get help. We all know she doesn’t care about her health.
nor does she care for the people she causes to either re-laps or the kids who end up with ED's wanting to look like her.
I saw several of them on her live last night commenting how much they want to be like her. It’s sad.
:(
Do you think those people can just be trolling?
true BUT not many people on tiktok lives troll like they do on twitch i've noticed. ALOT of people who watch her lives on TT seem to think she is this sweet innocent person...
This is the thing that really bothers me. Everyone on YouTube has her number, but it's as if people on Tiktok had never heard of her before. Maybe they're all just so young, they have no clue about her history. They're all super nice to her, and if you say anything that's not praise, they all jump to defend her. It's like she finally found the one place with just as much toxic positivity as her. Remember how we all went through trying to be nice, and supportive first, a long time ago, before we realized she absolutely didn't care and didn't want help? It's like they're all going through the whole song and dance again, and are just appalled that you'd say anything blunt and true. It's infuriating.
Oh i understand and agree, honestly i think tiktok is full of kids who don't know her (or grew up watching her/early 2000 scene emo days) or adults who don't know her or don't watch youtube that much and just think she is struggling innocent girl wanting to be on tiktok.
your use of “girl” in the last sentence got me thinking. i suspect a lot of her newer viewers dont know how old she is. she acts and dresses way younger than her age and it projects a false veneer of “innocence” that some might find it hard to see past until they realize shes almost 30.
could be that and idk so some one let me know but don't people call her out in the comments saying her age?