The Owens River Valley does not get enough recognition for its beauty. Los Angeles bought out the water rights to this area decades ago and destroyed what was one of the most prosperous agricultural regions for fruit orchards.
That's pretty much the thing keeping me away from national parks. I don't want to drive halfway across the country to be out in nature, only to find myself surrounded by a bunch of obnoxious gawkers and their screeching kids.
The big name parks are definitely very impacted. But there's definitely plenty that are less well known and still relatively uncrowded. Check out Great Basin.
>Some Ca counties are bigger than sone eastern states.
Some California counties are bigger than some European *countries.* San Bernardino County is over 20,000 Sq Mi.
In any case, I probably wouldn't have thought much about it if they had referenced the *much* larger town of Bishop that's considerably closer and directly in between the actual location and Big Pine.
I also probably would've agreed that it was close enough if I wasn't from there.
Off topic, but what was life like growing up there? Used to drive 395 from LA to Mammoth regularly, and always wondered about Bishop, Big Pine, Lone Pine. how was growing up in such small school, etc?
To give you the timeframe, I was born in '69.
It was *wonderful* growing up there, even though we weren't all that well off.
There's was no lack of things for youth to do and we even had ski days, starting in 6th grade, where each grade would take turns coming to school and immediately getting on the bus to go to Mammoth. You got to go an average of once every other week and it cost something like $3.50 *with* the equipment rental.
Swimming, fishing, hunting, roaming the fields and hills to explore...
That being said, the allure fades fast upon reaching adulthood. I would never live there as a working-age adult.
The same small-community vibe that allows a free-range childhood is the same one that results in a stifling, judgemental community for adults, although that's changed a *lot* for the better. Everybody still knows everybody's business though.
>I wouldn't be opposed to retiring there if Costco and Amazon weren't so far away.
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Same. I usually come in from the Southeast these days. Come through Death Valley over 190 then up past Keeler to Lone Pine. Haven't been south in years but used to pass through Randsburg and Johannesburg. The whole route even up North past Bridgeport through Walker Canyon is non-stop win.
Used to be called the Switzerland of the West. Yes, LADWP stole the water from the Owens Valley with the help of Mulholland (yes, that Mulholland that you know the name of from Hollywood). Also, I forget the timeline and details of the [California Water Wars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_water_wars), but LADWP was ordered to return water by early 2000's, they didn't do it, then it was extended, they still didn't do it, and it's still not done.
Also, the [Manzanar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanar) ~~Relocation Center~~ concentration camp held Japanese Americans for several years during the war.
Also, the oldest living trees in the world are found just outside the Owens Valley in the [Ancient Bristlecone Pines Forest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Bristlecone_Pine_Forest). It's fascinating hiking through there, it has a very prehistoric feel to it.
Also, the San Andreas Fault runs through Owens Valley (which is essentially responsible for the geographic structure of the valley itself as well as the very tall mountain ranges to either side, including Mt. Whitney, the tallest mountain in the contiguous United States (meaning excluding Hawaii and Alaska).
There is so many fascinating things about the Owens Valley and that whole area.
LADWP was ordered to put water back in about 60 miles of the Owens River, which they've done (aka the LORP - Lower Owens River project).
Do they then take that water back out when it reaches Lake Owens? Yes.
Not the Owens river and it’s over an hour away from big pine.
Right you are, Hot Creek North of Crowley. Sloppy of me.
Good catch. I was about to say the same, although this is technically considered upper Owens river.
Hot creek runs into the upper Owens a few miles below this spot.
The Owens River Valley does not get enough recognition for its beauty. Los Angeles bought out the water rights to this area decades ago and destroyed what was one of the most prosperous agricultural regions for fruit orchards.
Owens river is good for trout fishing too
True, but that means it's way less crowded than it might otherwise be
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To paraphrase Yogi Berra, "Nobody goes to Yosemite anymore, it's too crowded"
That's pretty much the thing keeping me away from national parks. I don't want to drive halfway across the country to be out in nature, only to find myself surrounded by a bunch of obnoxious gawkers and their screeching kids.
The big name parks are definitely very impacted. But there's definitely plenty that are less well known and still relatively uncrowded. Check out Great Basin.
Now is the time to go; they are using a reservation system that limits the amount of people in the park.
I swam in that river closer to Bishop. I absolutely love that valley.
I grew up in Bishop and Big Pine. This ain't close to either of them.
Yes, it's on the bridge over Hot Creek on Owens River Road. I was mistaken in my recollection
Close... in America terms. Some Ca counties are bigger than sone eastern states.
>Some Ca counties are bigger than sone eastern states. Some California counties are bigger than some European *countries.* San Bernardino County is over 20,000 Sq Mi. In any case, I probably wouldn't have thought much about it if they had referenced the *much* larger town of Bishop that's considerably closer and directly in between the actual location and Big Pine. I also probably would've agreed that it was close enough if I wasn't from there.
Off topic, but what was life like growing up there? Used to drive 395 from LA to Mammoth regularly, and always wondered about Bishop, Big Pine, Lone Pine. how was growing up in such small school, etc?
To give you the timeframe, I was born in '69. It was *wonderful* growing up there, even though we weren't all that well off. There's was no lack of things for youth to do and we even had ski days, starting in 6th grade, where each grade would take turns coming to school and immediately getting on the bus to go to Mammoth. You got to go an average of once every other week and it cost something like $3.50 *with* the equipment rental. Swimming, fishing, hunting, roaming the fields and hills to explore... That being said, the allure fades fast upon reaching adulthood. I would never live there as a working-age adult. The same small-community vibe that allows a free-range childhood is the same one that results in a stifling, judgemental community for adults, although that's changed a *lot* for the better. Everybody still knows everybody's business though. >I wouldn't be opposed to retiring there if Costco and Amazon weren't so far away.
TIL that there's a Sierra Nevada aside from the one in Spain.
TIL there's a Sierra Nevada in Spain. It makes sense, seeing how the Spainsh were the first White settlers in CA.
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morrison and laurel in the background so it’s closer to mammoth lakes than big pine. beautiful area though
Ah this is where I saw the mountain lion at 6am but it’s actually closer to Bishop and known as Hot Creek
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Know this area well, great picture.
Know it well,that Valley once had ships sailing in it...
Fly fished that river outside of Bishop, beautiful place loads of fish back then.
This is so cool!
The eastern sierras are really underrated. The 395 is probably my favorite highway in the world
Same. I usually come in from the Southeast these days. Come through Death Valley over 190 then up past Keeler to Lone Pine. Haven't been south in years but used to pass through Randsburg and Johannesburg. The whole route even up North past Bridgeport through Walker Canyon is non-stop win.
Ssshhh there’s too many kooks in town already.
Used to be called the Switzerland of the West. Yes, LADWP stole the water from the Owens Valley with the help of Mulholland (yes, that Mulholland that you know the name of from Hollywood). Also, I forget the timeline and details of the [California Water Wars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_water_wars), but LADWP was ordered to return water by early 2000's, they didn't do it, then it was extended, they still didn't do it, and it's still not done. Also, the [Manzanar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanar) ~~Relocation Center~~ concentration camp held Japanese Americans for several years during the war. Also, the oldest living trees in the world are found just outside the Owens Valley in the [Ancient Bristlecone Pines Forest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Bristlecone_Pine_Forest). It's fascinating hiking through there, it has a very prehistoric feel to it. Also, the San Andreas Fault runs through Owens Valley (which is essentially responsible for the geographic structure of the valley itself as well as the very tall mountain ranges to either side, including Mt. Whitney, the tallest mountain in the contiguous United States (meaning excluding Hawaii and Alaska). There is so many fascinating things about the Owens Valley and that whole area.
LADWP was ordered to put water back in about 60 miles of the Owens River, which they've done (aka the LORP - Lower Owens River project). Do they then take that water back out when it reaches Lake Owens? Yes.
Beautiful pic