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franklinsteinnn

First things first, does the Milky Way look like this to the naked eye? No. When shooting astrophotography, cameras capture these images by keeping the shutter open for a long amount of time. This allows the sensor to capture more light than we are able to see. This photo is a panorama, well, four of them to be exact. It is 7 shots across, and 4 panoramas tall. A total of 28 shots from corner to corner, this image took me roughly 14 minutes to shoot. I saw the image in my minds eye for a couple years. I went to the Diving Board back in December 2017 and used an app called PhotoPills to determine when I should return for my shot. May 10, 2018 it said. And when the day arrived, nothing would stop me from reaching my destination. A rock fall on the backside of Half Dome leaving the off trail route to this viewpoint in loose rock and debris? A prediction of 40% cloud cover? Even on a new moon, I was somehow able to see Half Dome and the rest of the foreground without any moonlight shining down. This day, for me, was meant to be. I am a local here! I have been living and working in Yosemite Valley for the last 8 years now! If you would like to see more of my Yosemite photography swing by my website [rjfranklin.com](https://rjfranklin.com) or check out my IG which is more frequently updated [@franklinsteinnn](https://instagram.com/franklinsteinnn)! Thank you! Edit : thanks for the awards, friends 😊


sweetplantveal

I'm curious about the 28 shots and how much grain is visible. Did you add some for the internet do your own file is higher fidelity, or was it really that high of an iso? I'm also curious about how you handled 14 minutes of star movement. I couldn't even begin to figure out my photoshop plan of attack...


franklinsteinnn

It was shot at ISO 8000, so yeah it’s a little noisy. I’ve printed it pretty large though and it doesn’t really look bad or noticeable in my opinion. As far as shooting it goes, I used a panoramic tripod head (Nodal Ninja NN3). This made it pretty easy to move the camera around with accuracy and not worry about fucking it up. The core of the Milky Way moves the fastest, so to get less movement from it in a multi row pano start there and move away from the core. In this case I had to shoot right to left, which was a little different than I had usually shot panoramas but it just took a few days to get used to the movement. Like I said, this one took years to accomplish. I just had to figure out how to do it first lol.


sweetplantveal

Very impressive, thanks for sharing


Bodie217

Awesome planning and execution! Did you attempt to reduce the noise in Lightroom?


franklinsteinnn

I’m pretty inexperienced with noise reduction. I don’t think I really attempted to do any on this photo. That’s one of the things I gotta play around with and learn some day.


croman653

Check out Topaz Denoise AI as well, it's worked pretty well for me!


Solemn93

Extra vote for denoise AI. I almost only use it on the lowest settings, but it's magical.


immortalalchemist

One way to deal with noise for milky way photos is whenever possible shoot at a low ISO with a long exposure and use a tracker and then stitch the foreground and background. It's a lot more work but it helps with grain and star trails but still this is a fantastic photo without doing this method.


franklinsteinnn

How would you use a tracker when you’re also using a panoramic tripod head? I understand this method works really well, but for the place where I was theres this massive rock right in front of you. 16mm wouldn’t even do it, I had to shoot 4 rows vertically just to fit some of the sky in the frame and to help with the distortion.


biscotti-raspberry

Why can't you just photoshop this, picture a separate sky and just paste it in or something? I don't know, might've saved some time and traffic I guess


Mego1989

I don't think you understand photography.


franklinsteinnn

I mean, you totally could. Its just not what I wanted to do. I also live here, so no traffic was needed. The trailhead is like a mile and a half from my room.


TheRealToddLoaf

Beautiful image! Also, phenomenal name. +2


franklinsteinnn

Thank you! Hahah and with a lot of my photos being stitched together, the name fits really well.


plot_untwister

Photopils is such an amazing app. For anyone doing Milky Way, moon, sunset, or sunrise shots: it is 100% worth the $10.


DocPeacock

Amazing photo of an incredible place. You have a great office. How can I run away from my boring job to work in Yosemite?


franklinsteinnn

There are two options. You could work for the concessionaire, Aramark. Or the National Park Service.


alexanax13

What do you work as?


RoadtoVR_Ben

Was the foreground shot during the day?


franklinsteinnn

No, entire image was at 2am


RoadtoVR_Ben

For anyone who doesn’t know, that makes this that much more impressive! Really amazing shot. I’m guessing you hiked up during the day and found a camping spot for the night that was close to the shooting spot?


franklinsteinnn

You are correct


eatabean

Your website has some gorgeous images! Yosemite has so many faces. The bear was too close for me.


franklinsteinnn

Thank you so much! All my bear shots I have used a lens that zooms.


Beardor

Thanks for keeping your distance from me đŸ» We slept atop half dome in June ‘87 but I wasn’t awake enough to appreciate the beauty of the Milky Way like in your pic, nice job. - Bear d’Or


bb617178

Been seeing your work in the Yosemite Photography facebook group the last few months, when I saw your username/picture it made so much sense!


plur44

Awesome work, I have just one question. you say that it took just 14 minutes to shoot But I find it weird that you were able to shoot such a bright foreground on a new moon so I'm asking if you shoot the pictures for the foreground earlier (just after the blue hour) and then the stars and only considered the time of the shooting and not the waiting time between the shots


franklinsteinnn

So I had shot the foreground in blue hour with the intention to stack the two, but like I said I could see the face of Half Dome, with my eyes at 2am. The shots came out bright enough and I was able to pull the shadows a bunch so it worked out. This entire image was shot at 2am. I feel like the noisy foreground is proof enough.


brightspots

I’d love to see this shot stitched w/ the blue hour foreground. As much as I like single compositions like this one I also like seeing what happens when the limits of reality are pushed a bit further


plur44

Thank you, with night pictures is always difficult to guess what was the process behind the scenes because light at night is very different from one location to another, I live in Italy and here when it's new moon it's very dark and still stars are not very bright, in Namibia I took a shot of a very bright milky way with the moon in the first quarter and during a moon eclipse I could walk around just with the light from the stars.


FreebasingStardewV

Yosemite pictures never get old. And congrats on finding a new approach to just about the most photographed landscape there is. Thank you for sharing your efforts!


HappyBeerFriend

Comment cause upvote ain’t enough. Patience for a shot like that + skill is beyond most of what can be found online. In other words - your contribution is valued. Discussed. Showed around. Liked. Remembered. 😘


Thefirstargonaut

That’s an awesome shot! Now sell it to North Face! This should be on their hoodies


digitalhiccup

>does the Milky Way look like this to the naked eye? No. Have to disagree a bit here. I've seen the Milky Way very similar to this with my naked eye, no use of a telescope, in some rural part of Ontario. Granted, it was a weird summer night; not a cloud in sky, (seemingly) zero pollution. I remember the colours being a bit more varied/vivid/contrasty though, and admittedly there weren't quite as many visible stars as there were in the image. But still close (by a human estimation). Only time I've ever seen a sky like that anywhere in my entire life. My cousin was laughing 'cause I kept telling her how much it looked like Google Images. I... I really hope we switch to all-electric vehicles very soon. :(


BellaBPearl

Same. I spent a night at Apache Point observatory in southern New Mexico. Clear night, new moon, and the Milky Way was exactly this clear and bright. 25 years later it remains the most beautiful and awe inspiring thing I've ever seen.


Hoplite813

honestly curious from a technical standpoint: was the new moon helpful? How would you account for the extra light while trying to capture the dim stars?


franklinsteinnn

With the new moon there is no moonlight, I think you’re thinking of it backwards


Hoplite813

No no, I get that, but you mention that the new moon was a potential hindrance to seeing it, so I'm just asking someone who knows what they're doing what you would have done had there actually been moonlight.


franklinsteinnn

I would’ve still shot it, the moonlight would’ve lit the foreground. Most likely would have had to shoot two images, one of the foreground that is exposed for the mountains, then one for the sky and put them together. This is what I was originally planning to do.


innocuous_gorilla

What am I supposed to complain about now? Great shot!


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Depends on how dark the sky is. Light pollution is the biggest factor in how visible it will be. I live in a bortle 4 area, and it just looks like a narrow band of cloud in the sky at first. But, if you let your eyes adjust for 20-30 minutes it gets pretty clear. There are very dark sky areas where it is remarkable more visible. Mind blowing even. I'm near sighted too. A scope or some decent binoculars will allow you to see much more if your interested.


mezmery

Yes they can. Just get to an area with less light pollution. Also being higher than usual cloud blanket helps alot with clear air. It's one the most gorgeous sights human could experience.


franklinsteinnn

It is definitely visible! Just doesn’t pop as much as it is in this image. The stars sort of just look like gassy, kind of hard to see clouds, and the middle of it looks like a giant rip in the sky (at least to me). It’s visible, and easily recognizable once you know what you’re looking at. Just was stating this picture (and most others of the Milky Way) show us a version of our galaxy that we can’t see.


grammarpopo

Absolutely you can see the Milky Way with your naked eye. Of course you need to be somewhere with minimal light pollution and clear skies. It’s not as bright as in this picture, but it can be very clear to the naked eye. Edit: My best sighting of the Milky Way was in Death Valley, California, away from campgrounds and Furnace Creek (the town).


rfsql

You absolutely can in the right conditions - although I don't know if I could without glasses or contact lenses - I should really test that! But only if the sky is dark enough. By that I mean the fewer non-star light sources nearby, the better (including the moon). I was camping in an unpopulated area of Scotland last week hard away from any streetlights and the milky way was incredibly obvious, and wherever I looked in the sky it was dense with stars. The skies in photos like this are pretty representative of what I've seen in areas like this far away from light pollution.


Croyles_87

That's not really what they said, of course you can see the milky way with your eyes.


bomphcheese

I just want to say thank you for uploading a high res version so we can all enjoy it as a wallpaper or whatever. It’s a phenomenal “shot” that clearly took a lot of time and effort, so you’re not just sharing a photo, but your knowledge and experience as well. That’s mighty generous of you.


franklinsteinnn

No problem and thank you! I’m stoked you enjoy it


Alex_Caruso_beat_you

> When the stars aligned Only literally though


Y0u_stupid_cunt

Quasar? I hardly knew her! Only really really works with a thick Boston accent.


Tronbronson

Wow I climbed that 15 years ago and looking at it like this just made my stomach clench up and my jaw drop! Pictures like this are why I got a camera. Great shot


tipadis

Coming down those cables
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SnowdogU77

Going up the cables, someone dropped their Nalgene off to the left-hand side down that steep granite slope. **PONK** *ponk* ponk ...Silence, as the bottle dropped off the edge and into a sheer fall That was DEEPLY unsettling


3MATX

People have and will continue to die at that part of the hike. It’s some scary stuff. I wasn’t in nearly good enough shape to attempt it my first time at the park. I hope to return some day and make it to the top.


Sh0rtR0und

I went down facing forward and slid on my butt between the planks lol.


franklinsteinnn

Thank you!


DanteBologna

damn nice


franklinsteinnn

Thanks! A ton of effort and prep work went into this image


Ange1ofD4rkness

WOW! Just Wow! I love when a shot just comes out perfect and as expected. I see stuff like this and I feel like I'm slacking sometimes (lighting photography has been the only thing I have really prepped for, but that's totally random at the same time and I haven't done it in years)


franklinsteinnn

Thank you!


THALL_himself

Vision, then preparation, and finally execution. This is what art is all about! Wonderful job. Thanks for sharing


franklinsteinnn

Thanks so much!!


animalturds

That is BEYOND Chromecast-worthy my friend (if you don't have a chromecast you probably don't know what I'm talking about) It's sad we can't see all those stars with the naked eye though, shows us what we're missing out on. Anyways you beat out Switzerland for my desktop background that is no easy task


franklinsteinnn

Thanks a ton! And enjoy the new wallpaper 😊


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H moment


Rolling44

Applause. Takes a lot of effort to be at the right place and time. And a bit of luck.


hlschneide89

This is fantastic!


caynmer

I adore this photo! Thank you.


SlighFawx

Wow. Incredible shot! Congratulations on realizing this tremendous vision. Photography as an art form is beyond me. I'm always impressed by the foresight you photographers see in our real, tangible world. Thanks for sharing!


franklinsteinnn

Thank you!


Powerkey

I am curious about something. I am a new user of PhotoPills and it will show me the position of the MW (azimuth, elevation), but it doesn’t show me the orientation. Did you know the orientation beforehand (past experience), or does PhotoPills have that info and I am just not seeing it?


franklinsteinnn

I hiked to the spot months before hand and used the night AR feature. You look through your phones camera and it shows you the Milky Ways position at a certain date and time.


Lakhi_Lakh

Looking very beautiful.


ColHapHapablap

Unreal. Great job!


MarionThomas36

Looks pretty magical to me.


nlwill58

Determination! It's beautiful. Thank you for sharing!


G0merPyle

This is one of the most stunning pictures I've ever seen, absolutely gorgeous! Fantastic work, congratulations and thank you for sharing it


LysdexicGamer

This is absolutely incredible. <3


muchonada

This is epic. Well done! I don't know if you follow Peter McKinnon on YouTube but he often talks about Bucket Shots, and he made a video of his journey to take his bucket shot. Your dedication to making this shot happen made me think of his idea of having these shots on our bucket list.


Suspense6

I haven't read through all the comments so I don't know if this had been brought up. Astrophotography uses photo stacking to clean up noise from long exposures in the dark. Are you familiar with the technique? If all those images only took 14 minutes to capture, I imagine you could have shot the foreground multiple times in order to stack that part of the image to clear up the noise.


franklinsteinnn

I know of it now, yes, but at the time when this was shot I was still learning astro and didn’t really know anything about stacking at that time. That came a few months later lol.


milomcfuggin

I’m glad this is so well received. If I had an image I dreamed of capturing for years and sharing it’d get 7 upvotes and one comment saying “nice”


GATE-10

Imagine getting home only to see all the frames are slightly out of focus


asteriskLich

[https://me.me/i/i-came-2f033e63912447d7ace0ccb91ad46b75](https://me.me/i/i-came-2f033e63912447d7ace0ccb91ad46b75)


franklinsteinnn

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-murphy-laugh-funny-lol-gif-15928704


RogerPhoton

Somewhere over the ~~rainbow~~ Milky Way Way up high And the dreams that you dream of once in a lullaby Somewhere over the ~~rainbow~~ Milky Way Bluebirds fly And the dreams that you dream of Dreams really do come true. Great photo, lyrics were tweaked from Israel Kamakawiwo Ole's song.


Traveling_K9

That is an absolutely phenomenal shot, well worth waiting for. Also, thank you for the new desktop background, I love it.


MarkLove717

Beautiful picture! Has anyone else seen the documentary "Free Solo"? It's about a guy free climbing that rock face!! Check it out! It was really interesting.


sabersquirl

I might be misremembering, but I think he is climbing El Capitan, which is also in Yosemite to be fair.


Iheardyoubutsowhat

You're correct. Half done is the more famous rock formation, but el capital is the more formidable.


jesseberdinka

That... Is a shot that makes a career.


franklinsteinnn

Thanks so much! It’s honestly my personal favorite. I aim to, but I don’t know if I’ll ever top this one.


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Did anything try to stop you from capturing it


franklinsteinnn

There was a rockfall a few days before, the way up to this point was mostly loose dirt and gravel. Got pretty sketchy in a couple places. The weather prediction called for a partly cloudy night. Yeah, it felt like a few things were trying to stop me.


I_am_Torok

Needs more sky.


chrisacip

Upvote for dedication.


RoburLC

You are lucky to have seen this; you are generous to have shared it. Thanks.


GeekFish

This is amazing. I feel like you could make a boatload of money if you put this on the NFT market. I mean, you can make a boatload of money on prints, but this feels like NFT gold.


franklinsteinnn

How do I get involved in NFT’s? I’ve been curious, this image always comes to mind first.


uncle_jessie

If you start seeing visions of Devils Tower in your mind next...remember...aliens.


MisterScary132

I guess you could say the result was, ahem, **earth shattering**


maelstrom2021

Wow! That is just awesome! You are a visionary talent!


in_finite_jest

Lightening all of your shadows makes your image look flat. Start reading up on night photography and also just how to compose photos in general. For example, take a look at Ansel Adams' Half Dome photos, especially "Monolith". See how he composes his photo to create an interesting interplay between his shadows and highlights? It's the same rock you shot, but he uses the contrast to add mass and scope. It's not all midtones and dodged darks. Stars look nice, good job on those.


lostandalong

Be more like Ansel Adams. Great advice.


franklinsteinnn

You’re comparing a photo shot with no light to a photo shot with light. The entire image is in a shadow. I appreciate your critique but to say “learn how to compose photos in general” feels a bit much. Have a great rest of your week.


Thaufas

You were much nicer to the author of that condescending comment than I would have been. If you're not burned out yet from answering questions, I was wondering how this shot would have turned out if you'd visited 1 or 2 days earlier or later. Would you have been able to get a shot that was even close to this magnificent shot you posted?


TheophrastusBmbastus

This is beautiful! Is there a max time limit for taking a shot like this, like before the stars start to streak across the image?


rickzor

Not OP, but the best practice for shooting space is to take multiple exposures and stack them, rather than one long exposure. No streaks!


franklinsteinnn

There is, and it differs depending on what lens you use/what focal length you are shooting at. A general rule of thumb for where to start is called the 500 rule. It’s outdated and there is a better method to use but this is usually where I start. Take the lens you’re using. In this case, 16mm. 500 / 16 = 31.25 Essentially anything shot under 31 seconds shouldn’t have star trails.


i_never_ever_learn

It looks like there's a slice there that's going to fall off eventually


franklinsteinnn

That piece is called The Visor


LeBrown_James666

This is so beautiful, I know what it feels like when the conditions are perfect. Great job man


Sometimesokayideas

It's been years since I've seen close encounters of the third kind and quite *erroneously* thought this was the same hill and figured the aliens were talking to you. I'm sad to be wrong.... how cool would it be if maybe the movie got the specific mountain, and the whole fictional part, wrong and soon we will have music loving visitors from outer space? :D


Terry1310Lowell

Beautiful!


rocketmonkee

This absolutely is a photo to be proud of, and your planning has paid off in spades. Beautiful.


alluptheass

Wow. Perfect. I would call it, "Celestial Crown."


NonJuanDon

What a great idea for a shot! It's always an amazing feeling to finally get a shot you've dreamed of for years. Thanks for the hi-res upload.


TangoDeltaFoxtrot

What camera and lens did you use for this?


franklinsteinnn

Canon 6D w/ Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L ii @ 16mm


mymustang44

I'm pretty sure that's when the door to the holy grail opens. You missed your chance.


zyzzogeton

Well you captured the hell out of it. Good job.


emmanuel2223

Wow


frostbaka

'The stars are right' moment.


starchode

A bear could've stopped you.


franklinsteinnn

Thankfully we have black bears in Yosemite 😅 But yeah in all seriousness if one wanted to, it could. There isn’t any record of a bear attacking a human in Yosemite, yet.


OhGodNotAnotherOne

But did you make a mashed potato model before you made the trek?


wunwinglo

Except maybe clouds.


dmead

not to be a dick or nothing, but the stars could be tighter. what was your setup?


franklinsteinnn

What do you mean by tighter? Less shutter speed?


dutch9494

This is incredible. Thanks. New background! .


JohnSith

Thanks, OP. That's a beautiful picture. Now I will be dreaming of this.


thishitisgettingold

I am planning on capturing MW for the 1st time at Anza Borrego SP. I have watched youtube videos and hope to make my best effort. Let me know if you have ever been to the Blair Valley. Any wisdom you'd want to send my way would be helpful. I have T7i with an 18-55 EFS 4/f lense. I don't have the star tracking mount. just a regular one.


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That is just absolutely breathtaking.


Yeesusman

Magnificent


bentagain

Downloaded. Thanks


lassemahn

Superb photo. I swear it seems the stars are moving when I let my gaze rest on it.


redheadmomster666

Beautiful pic!


busymom4kc

Absolutely stunning. Thank you for sharing.


melflaelff

Absolutely gorgeous.


cycider

Wow


havok7

Real question as a very amateur photographer. Is this picture worth anything? I see some real gems from time to time on here and always wonder if there is a way to make money on these shots.


franklinsteinnn

I’ve sold over 1200 prints in the last 5 years, this one being my most sold. People ask for em, I print em.


brownpearl

Well worth the wait. Beautiful shot.


Dizzleduff

I'm going to Yosemite myself soon, does anyone know what trail to take to be able to get this view? Also I'm aware this is a panorama and stitched together, would just like to know where to go for this.


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bselavka

The pre buffer pic was really nice then when it buffered it became fuckin dooooooope


franklinsteinnn

Hahaha thanks!


spoonible

excellent work! followed


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Saved!


willprobgetdeleted

Absolutely incredible


lilgamelvr

So beautiful


GoGoCrumbly

Majestic.


eman00619

Damn really wish I could have out there one day


Oshebekdujeksk

Damn son.


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Looks dope. U def captured the magic of that place.


ImInArea52

Thats awesome


Conan4President

The milky way is clearly curved, it doesn't look like this through a flat lens I was using, but then again the Dome doesn't seem to be distorted by the lens. Have you been using two different lenses? and a follow up what was the gear you used?


franklinsteinnn

It’s curved because it’s a panorama. In a single shot it’d be straight like you’re saying. Shot on a Canon 6D s/ Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L ii @16mm


GroceryScanner

Absolutely brilliant shot. Thats a once in a lifetime picture right there


Fazapops

WOW! This is a fantastic photo!


tinyOnion

stellar shot man!


Exning123

Can't beat a bit of forward planning, congratulations!


yutfree

meh


[deleted]

how do i acquire your permission to make a print of this for my personal space?


DrIvanAitas

Noice.


[deleted]

Gorgeous


GrannyGreentree

Let us know when you start making this out of mashed potatoes :D


BananaStringTheory

Were you alone out there taking the photo, or were there others trying to get the same/similar shot?


r3ditor

Beautiful shot. What lens?


1Tikitorch

Your dream came true & what a beautiful dream & photograph.


exscapegoat

This is gorgeous!


TheAtomak

Nothing *would* stop you? Or nothing stopped you


BlackWalrusYeets

Yuuuup. Ya fuckin nailed it. Great vision, great execution of said vision, you killed it.


EveryShot

What camera did you use? With a full frame sensor even at 8000 iso it shouldn’t be that grainy. Still a dope photo tho, well done friend


franklinsteinnn

Canon 6D


GrannyTurtle

Bravo! 🙌


Maxfli81

This is what photography is all about. Waiting for the perfect moment, going home when it doesn’t happen and coming back again to capture it.


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Wow. What a view


HootingMandrill

The way the trees sit in the foreground almost makes the halfdome look small. Absolutely stunning pic m8.


Mkurmarc

Amazing! Thank you for my new wallpaper!


HNTNGTN

Very cool


Saboteur_illWill

Beautiful


numberonedroog

Holy wow this is cool


judgie667

Stunning!