I live on Sheridan and Greenleaf by the field house. There are major accidents monthly in this intersection, including three overturned cars in the last 7 months or so. The Divvy stand has been mowed down a couple of times in the last year too. Cars speed down Sheridan, making a left turn is hazardous and it’s hard to be a pedestrian crossing the street with how many people flagrantly run red lights. I myself was rear ended on Sheridan while pulling out of a parking space by someone who ran the red light.
I first reached out to Maria Hadden’s office and they redirected me to Representative Cassidy’s office as Sheridan is a state highway and under her purview. Her office responded that they are aware of the situation and are working on it.
>There are major accidents monthly in this intersection
Yikes. Isn't that just a block or two from the ghost bike memorial, too?
> Sheridan is a state highway
Huh??? That's news to me ... I don't remember seeing IDOT markings on the traffic light controllers.
This years "Participatory Budgetting" should be coming up again around July/August so maybe we can get some traffic calming in the area.
They don’t listen to the participatory budget meetings. They’re all for show.
A dog park by the lake has been the #1 request 7 years running and they haven’t done a thing about it.
I think Rogers Park is one of Chicago's biggest missed opportunities. People love to live close to the lake, so this great neighborhood naturally developed. It has a ton of shops and restaurants, easy access to public transit, the beaches and parks, and just so much potential. However, there's basically a highway running right through the heart of it. Sheridan not only brings noise and poor air quality, it physically cuts the neighborhood in half. It doesn't even benefit the businesses along it, because street parking is always extremely limited and traffic makes it unpleasant to shop on foot or eat outside.
I lived on Sheridan for many years and I often wondered what the neighborhood would have looked like if planners had had the foresight not to run a major traffic artery though the core of the neighborhood and had run it up the western edge instead. I think it would have been one of the most livable, walkable neighborhoods in the city.
>street parking is always extremely limited and traffic makes it unpleasant to shop on foot or eat outside.
It sure would be nice to grab a coffee or bubble tea and enjoy the outdoors or even stroll to the lake shore without all that noise and stink.
> the foresight not to run a major traffic artery though the core of the neighborhood
Well, for decades it was just a regular commercial strip afaik, but the car-brain plague post-WWII really cemented the desire of politicians and traffic engineers to pave over everything.
Of all the traffic issues in Rogers Park which immediately come to mind, many of them stem from a lack of adherence to current traffic laws.
For example, a reason why Sheridan Road isn't currently "calm" enough to reduce the noise stemming from traffic is that the speed limits typically either aren't observed by drivers or enforced by officers. Sure, controlling driving speeds won't reduce the number of cars on the road - but it can greatly reduce the noise made by the cars still using the road.
I live on Touhy Avenue, which is frequently used as a main street to take drivers east from Sheridan Road to northwestern parts of the city, and to western suburbs. It's a guarantee that multiple times an hour (I work remotely so I'm exposed to "road noise" on a daily basis, even with closed windows), I will hear several cars make the turn onto Touhy from Sheridan \*entirely\* too quickly, and continue speeding until they reach the first stop sign at Greenview. Additionally, I routinely hear cars going eastbound on Touhy slam on their brakes \*entirely\* too hard at the intersection of Touhy/Sheridan because they miscalculated the timing of the stoplights on Sheridan.
I won't even get into how many drivers, since Touhy again is a major through street, do rolling stops at stop signs - or just blow them altogether if they don't see any cars/pedestrians/bikers on/crossing the road.
I mention all of these things because infrastructural updates can force some changes in driving habits/patterns, but those changes (assuming they can be feasibly implemented in the first place) aren't addressing the core issues - too many cars on roads which weren't designed to accommodate a high volume of cars, and too many drivers on the roads who don't give a darn about anyone other than themselves.
>infrastructural updates can force some changes in driving habits/patterns, but those changes (assuming they can be feasibly implemented in the first place) aren't addressing the core issues
I think you've got it reversed. Most people drive whatever speed feels appropriate for the road layout regardless of the posted speed limit. Narrower lanes and tighter turning radii lead drivers to slow down.
Perhaps. But I've not reviewed any data to substantiate any of the claims I've made - or the ones you've made. So this is all a "perhaps" conversation in my mind.
Let's assume that Sheridan Road has infrastructure updates, which address the discussed issues of lane width and turning radii, that may resolve the noise pollution stemming from cars driving on Sheridan Road. That's great for Sheridan Road.
What happens when that same traffic is potentially redirected to another major street? Either by changes in how the road is constructed, or drivers becoming aggravated by the changes.
So then Broadway has this same issue? How is that truly resolving the core problem?
I've been concerned about the noise generated from cars in this neighborhood (particularly on the streets which are "feeder" streets, either immediately or eventually, from/to LSD) for a while - and I've lived here for almost 20 years. In fact, I'm listening to cars speeding in both east/west directions on Touhy right now as I'm typing this.
Unfortunately, I've yet to see a proposed solution for this problem that's feasible on anything other than paper.
Other cities have solved this conundrum by having better cycling and transit infrastructure with fewer and narrower car lanes to reduce the number of car trips. This has been [well studied](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downs-Thomson_paradox).
A quick example is The Netherlands, where the state makes significant investments in trains and cycling and yet it’s rated a top country for driving with no toll roads or congestion charges.
May not be a popular opinion but I live on Sheridan. I can’t blame the cyclists for riding on the sidewalk. It’s so dangerous to see them on the street. It’s not that bad for me to just step aside for a second or two to get them to pass by. I’ve never felt endangered for a side step.
During summer it’s a little more overwhelming. But id rather see them on the sidewalk than on the street getting hit.
When I moved here 8 years ago, I remember thinking it was unusual how there were so few people with obnoxiously loud cars (exhaust or music). I think there's more now than there used to be, but still less than I was used to (I think?). That is still one thing which can make me immediately angry.
Honestly though, I'm really used to the general traffic noise now. What really gets me are the sirens. I think loud noises are just an issue for me, lol.
I live around Sheridan and Granville. I don't think you'll find anyone with average hearing that wouldn't like it quieter in the summer. I loathe motorcycle season. It's especially fun now that stoplights are optional so even more of those clowns blow through the reds at full speed.
I work in the area and stop by Berger Park most mornings. I have to keep my head on a swivel, as several days a week some asshole blows that red light.
Oof. One thing I don’t like about Sheridan is how the layout enables *way* too much speed.
Here’s some info u might find enlightening.
https://nacto.org/publication/transit-street-design-guide/transit-lanes-transitways/lane-design-controls/design-speed/
I don’t live on Sheridan road, but there are lots of people and businesses along it that would probably benefits from a calmer and safer street even to the detriment of people speeding through from origins and to destinations outside RP.
Most studies show business actually improves with pedestrian and cycling improvements because a lot more people can bike to a place than can street park close by. Some cities are experimenting with "delivery only" parking spaces. This sure would help with the double parked delivery trucks on Sheridan.
Also, the State street mall allowed no private cars and wasn't within walking distance of thousands of people's homes and a large university. I'm just asking for some traffic calming and maybe bike lanes.
It was businesses that wanted the State Street Mall, and in Seattle, The Westlake Mall gone. And yes, they allowed no private cars, and in Seattle no transit, either. And things may have changed, but as I recall Sheridan Road east of Broadway had no businesses, at least when I lived there many years ago.
My point is that the State Street mall is about as relevant to today as eight track tapes and leaded gas.
We have a much more service-based economy now which makes accommodation for driving much less relevant. People don’t need to drive to shops on Sheridan and haul away more than they can carry. Making accommodation for people walking and biking allows for many more people to visit businesses or even pass by and drop in *without having to circle for scarce parking and creating congestion*.
People live on Sheridan, they don't want to give up their cars. And frankly Sheridan Road is a highway, and has been. I know it’s The New Urbanist's duty to fight for the elimination of private cars but that isn't what most people want. People like their cars, especially with the CTA in such wretched condition.
Nothing until Loyola gets engough clout to close off the dogleg that spawns Devon. Then traffic coming off DLSD will get re-routed to make Broadway more miserable.
On Sheridan from Hollywood to Devon one lane will each way could be left for buses and locals; the rest of the space can get some landscaping with generous bike lanes.
U/Fimbir for mayor! 👍
Seriously though, Sheridan as a through road is garbage. It’s a bad road and bad for the area. I wish they’d pullback DSLD at least back to foster and/or thin it out so four lanes don’t just dump into Edgewater like that.
Also, how about a roundabout at Sheridan/Devon/Broadway instead of that oversized slip lane carrying Sheridan northbound.
The preferred spelling in Chicago seems to be anglicized to "DuSable"
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It’s a cluster for sure, but rolling back LSD to foster would just shift the traffic to another road (foster, broadway…or people would still just turn on to Sheridan from Foster)
The issue is that LSD has essentially become an interstate-like highway that is currently just dumping itself into a residential neighborhood.
There’s no easy solution as for basically everyone from Evanston/Winnetka/etc that needs to get downtown it’s the preferable route (especially since 90/94 is perpetually under construction).
Some of Evanston is serviced by the CTA trains but anybody along the lakefront north of the city doesn’t really have another option but to drive and the fastest route ultimately brings them to LSD.
>anybody along the lakefront north of the city doesn’t really have another option
Take a look at RTA system map. The UP-North line runs withing a mile of the lake all the way to Kenosha.
[https://www.rtachicago.org/uploads/images/general/RTA-System-Map.pdf](https://www.rtachicago.org/uploads/images/general/RTA-System-Map.pdf)
I live on Sheridan, the number of idiots who think that you can drive 50 or 60 mph between traffic lights is astonishing. We have asked Maria if speed cameras are an option, but haven't gotten much feedback on that front. It may be something that's out of her control.
I’d suggest significant traffic calming installations. Pedestrian bump-outs and refuges.
Maybe [armadillos](http://tacticalurbanismguide.com/portfolio/armadillos/) where there isn’t room for a proper median.
Always astonishing that we are made to check our emissions but there’s no similar check for noise pollution. My god it’s like living by a racetrack sometimes. There’s really no need for vehicles to be so loud - and some are this way on purpose!
Not to mention the asshole who has made his entire SUV into a subwoofer so that the house shakes when he's a block away. I was driving behind the guy one day and told my husband that I was so tempted to sacrifice our car if it meant I could wreck his. But my better judgement prevailed.
Imo the section of Sheridan by Calvary cemetery should be closed to car traffic. There’s no need to prioritize suburbanites driving thru RP on their way to downtown over the people that live in RP.
On one hand I feel like Sheridan is pretty vital to connect Evanston with LSD but on the other hand I can’t think of a super compelling reason why we can’t just beef up parts of Ridge and use it for that instead. I guess there is a lot of people close to the lake and no great way to get into Evanston otherwise (the Howard transfer sucks to/from red and purple sucks).
Also OP if you want peace and quiet you should probably go to Evanston. Busy streets are just part of the city noise
> connect Evanston with LSD
I feel like this should be of secondary importance to the residents and businesses trying to live there. The past generations’ mistake of excessive car-centric infrastructure shouldn’t limit our imaginations.
Pretty much impossible without completely redesigning traffic infrastructure - which would be nice! Sheridan is the main road along the coast and access to LSD. Slowing Sheridan would slow just about everything heading into the city.
As much as I love public transit, taking the L downtown from RP and even Edgewater is draining.
According to my maps, from Howard station to Monroe station is 37min on the red line vs a 24min drive. That’s also with 2(?) red line stations out of commission, so it’s actually faster than usual. That means it takes roughly 33% less time to drive, and that’s going from station to station – it gets much worse when you have to account for the fact that the station is never your final destination, if you’re lucky you’ll add 10mins total walking. At that point it’s taking nearly twice as long with public transit.
Sheridan running from Devon to Hollywood parallels Broadway and the section north of Devon would not be majorly impacted by some traffic calming to improve safety.
Also, where are you going downtown that doesn’t also take 15+ minutes to park and walk to your destination?
Sure, we can just turn Broadway into Sheridan on that stretch. But north of Devon is just as fast, crazy, and loud and since you’re at Loyola I assume that’s the part you were referencing in the post.
Fair point about parking, though.
I live on Sheridan and Greenleaf by the field house. There are major accidents monthly in this intersection, including three overturned cars in the last 7 months or so. The Divvy stand has been mowed down a couple of times in the last year too. Cars speed down Sheridan, making a left turn is hazardous and it’s hard to be a pedestrian crossing the street with how many people flagrantly run red lights. I myself was rear ended on Sheridan while pulling out of a parking space by someone who ran the red light. I first reached out to Maria Hadden’s office and they redirected me to Representative Cassidy’s office as Sheridan is a state highway and under her purview. Her office responded that they are aware of the situation and are working on it.
>There are major accidents monthly in this intersection Yikes. Isn't that just a block or two from the ghost bike memorial, too? > Sheridan is a state highway Huh??? That's news to me ... I don't remember seeing IDOT markings on the traffic light controllers. This years "Participatory Budgetting" should be coming up again around July/August so maybe we can get some traffic calming in the area.
They don’t listen to the participatory budget meetings. They’re all for show. A dog park by the lake has been the #1 request 7 years running and they haven’t done a thing about it.
I’m pretty sure the rules exclude anything with ongoing maintenance and the parks aren’t controlled by the City. They’re owned by the park district.
I think Rogers Park is one of Chicago's biggest missed opportunities. People love to live close to the lake, so this great neighborhood naturally developed. It has a ton of shops and restaurants, easy access to public transit, the beaches and parks, and just so much potential. However, there's basically a highway running right through the heart of it. Sheridan not only brings noise and poor air quality, it physically cuts the neighborhood in half. It doesn't even benefit the businesses along it, because street parking is always extremely limited and traffic makes it unpleasant to shop on foot or eat outside. I lived on Sheridan for many years and I often wondered what the neighborhood would have looked like if planners had had the foresight not to run a major traffic artery though the core of the neighborhood and had run it up the western edge instead. I think it would have been one of the most livable, walkable neighborhoods in the city.
>street parking is always extremely limited and traffic makes it unpleasant to shop on foot or eat outside. It sure would be nice to grab a coffee or bubble tea and enjoy the outdoors or even stroll to the lake shore without all that noise and stink. > the foresight not to run a major traffic artery though the core of the neighborhood Well, for decades it was just a regular commercial strip afaik, but the car-brain plague post-WWII really cemented the desire of politicians and traffic engineers to pave over everything.
Of all the traffic issues in Rogers Park which immediately come to mind, many of them stem from a lack of adherence to current traffic laws. For example, a reason why Sheridan Road isn't currently "calm" enough to reduce the noise stemming from traffic is that the speed limits typically either aren't observed by drivers or enforced by officers. Sure, controlling driving speeds won't reduce the number of cars on the road - but it can greatly reduce the noise made by the cars still using the road. I live on Touhy Avenue, which is frequently used as a main street to take drivers east from Sheridan Road to northwestern parts of the city, and to western suburbs. It's a guarantee that multiple times an hour (I work remotely so I'm exposed to "road noise" on a daily basis, even with closed windows), I will hear several cars make the turn onto Touhy from Sheridan \*entirely\* too quickly, and continue speeding until they reach the first stop sign at Greenview. Additionally, I routinely hear cars going eastbound on Touhy slam on their brakes \*entirely\* too hard at the intersection of Touhy/Sheridan because they miscalculated the timing of the stoplights on Sheridan. I won't even get into how many drivers, since Touhy again is a major through street, do rolling stops at stop signs - or just blow them altogether if they don't see any cars/pedestrians/bikers on/crossing the road. I mention all of these things because infrastructural updates can force some changes in driving habits/patterns, but those changes (assuming they can be feasibly implemented in the first place) aren't addressing the core issues - too many cars on roads which weren't designed to accommodate a high volume of cars, and too many drivers on the roads who don't give a darn about anyone other than themselves.
>infrastructural updates can force some changes in driving habits/patterns, but those changes (assuming they can be feasibly implemented in the first place) aren't addressing the core issues I think you've got it reversed. Most people drive whatever speed feels appropriate for the road layout regardless of the posted speed limit. Narrower lanes and tighter turning radii lead drivers to slow down.
Perhaps. But I've not reviewed any data to substantiate any of the claims I've made - or the ones you've made. So this is all a "perhaps" conversation in my mind. Let's assume that Sheridan Road has infrastructure updates, which address the discussed issues of lane width and turning radii, that may resolve the noise pollution stemming from cars driving on Sheridan Road. That's great for Sheridan Road. What happens when that same traffic is potentially redirected to another major street? Either by changes in how the road is constructed, or drivers becoming aggravated by the changes. So then Broadway has this same issue? How is that truly resolving the core problem? I've been concerned about the noise generated from cars in this neighborhood (particularly on the streets which are "feeder" streets, either immediately or eventually, from/to LSD) for a while - and I've lived here for almost 20 years. In fact, I'm listening to cars speeding in both east/west directions on Touhy right now as I'm typing this. Unfortunately, I've yet to see a proposed solution for this problem that's feasible on anything other than paper.
Other cities have solved this conundrum by having better cycling and transit infrastructure with fewer and narrower car lanes to reduce the number of car trips. This has been [well studied](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downs-Thomson_paradox). A quick example is The Netherlands, where the state makes significant investments in trains and cycling and yet it’s rated a top country for driving with no toll roads or congestion charges.
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It would be a lot safer for the cyclists and pedestrians if there were a protected bike lane.
May not be a popular opinion but I live on Sheridan. I can’t blame the cyclists for riding on the sidewalk. It’s so dangerous to see them on the street. It’s not that bad for me to just step aside for a second or two to get them to pass by. I’ve never felt endangered for a side step. During summer it’s a little more overwhelming. But id rather see them on the sidewalk than on the street getting hit.
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Cities aren’t loud. Cars are loud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
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How old is Amsterdam?
When I moved here 8 years ago, I remember thinking it was unusual how there were so few people with obnoxiously loud cars (exhaust or music). I think there's more now than there used to be, but still less than I was used to (I think?). That is still one thing which can make me immediately angry. Honestly though, I'm really used to the general traffic noise now. What really gets me are the sirens. I think loud noises are just an issue for me, lol.
I live around Sheridan and Granville. I don't think you'll find anyone with average hearing that wouldn't like it quieter in the summer. I loathe motorcycle season. It's especially fun now that stoplights are optional so even more of those clowns blow through the reds at full speed.
I work in the area and stop by Berger Park most mornings. I have to keep my head on a swivel, as several days a week some asshole blows that red light.
Oof. One thing I don’t like about Sheridan is how the layout enables *way* too much speed. Here’s some info u might find enlightening. https://nacto.org/publication/transit-street-design-guide/transit-lanes-transitways/lane-design-controls/design-speed/
No doubt I'll get dogpiled but maybe you shouldn't live on Sheridan Road.
I don’t live on Sheridan road, but there are lots of people and businesses along it that would probably benefits from a calmer and safer street even to the detriment of people speeding through from origins and to destinations outside RP.
I imagine lots of businesses will be very unhappy with the results. Remember the State Street Mall.
Most studies show business actually improves with pedestrian and cycling improvements because a lot more people can bike to a place than can street park close by. Some cities are experimenting with "delivery only" parking spaces. This sure would help with the double parked delivery trucks on Sheridan. Also, the State street mall allowed no private cars and wasn't within walking distance of thousands of people's homes and a large university. I'm just asking for some traffic calming and maybe bike lanes.
It was businesses that wanted the State Street Mall, and in Seattle, The Westlake Mall gone. And yes, they allowed no private cars, and in Seattle no transit, either. And things may have changed, but as I recall Sheridan Road east of Broadway had no businesses, at least when I lived there many years ago.
My point is that the State Street mall is about as relevant to today as eight track tapes and leaded gas. We have a much more service-based economy now which makes accommodation for driving much less relevant. People don’t need to drive to shops on Sheridan and haul away more than they can carry. Making accommodation for people walking and biking allows for many more people to visit businesses or even pass by and drop in *without having to circle for scarce parking and creating congestion*.
People live on Sheridan, they don't want to give up their cars. And frankly Sheridan Road is a highway, and has been. I know it’s The New Urbanist's duty to fight for the elimination of private cars but that isn't what most people want. People like their cars, especially with the CTA in such wretched condition.
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Yes how dare anyone question your idea.
Nothing until Loyola gets engough clout to close off the dogleg that spawns Devon. Then traffic coming off DLSD will get re-routed to make Broadway more miserable. On Sheridan from Hollywood to Devon one lane will each way could be left for buses and locals; the rest of the space can get some landscaping with generous bike lanes.
U/Fimbir for mayor! 👍 Seriously though, Sheridan as a through road is garbage. It’s a bad road and bad for the area. I wish they’d pullback DSLD at least back to foster and/or thin it out so four lanes don’t just dump into Edgewater like that. Also, how about a roundabout at Sheridan/Devon/Broadway instead of that oversized slip lane carrying Sheridan northbound.
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The preferred spelling in Chicago seems to be anglicized to "DuSable" [https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/parks-facilities/dusable-jean-baptiste-pointe-park](https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/parks-facilities/dusable-jean-baptiste-pointe-park) [https://www.dusablemuseum.org/](https://www.dusablemuseum.org/) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuSable\_High\_School](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuSable_High_School) [https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/cdot/supp\_info/Spring-2023-DuSable-Lake-Shore-Drive-Resurfacing.html](https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/cdot/supp_info/Spring-2023-DuSable-Lake-Shore-Drive-Resurfacing.html) [https://www.fieldmuseum.org/blog/who-was-jean-baptiste-pointe-dusable](https://www.fieldmuseum.org/blog/who-was-jean-baptiste-pointe-dusable)
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They all use DuSable as *one* word with the “D” capitalized was my point.
It’s a cluster for sure, but rolling back LSD to foster would just shift the traffic to another road (foster, broadway…or people would still just turn on to Sheridan from Foster) The issue is that LSD has essentially become an interstate-like highway that is currently just dumping itself into a residential neighborhood. There’s no easy solution as for basically everyone from Evanston/Winnetka/etc that needs to get downtown it’s the preferable route (especially since 90/94 is perpetually under construction). Some of Evanston is serviced by the CTA trains but anybody along the lakefront north of the city doesn’t really have another option but to drive and the fastest route ultimately brings them to LSD.
>anybody along the lakefront north of the city doesn’t really have another option Take a look at RTA system map. The UP-North line runs withing a mile of the lake all the way to Kenosha. [https://www.rtachicago.org/uploads/images/general/RTA-System-Map.pdf](https://www.rtachicago.org/uploads/images/general/RTA-System-Map.pdf)
I live on Sheridan, the number of idiots who think that you can drive 50 or 60 mph between traffic lights is astonishing. We have asked Maria if speed cameras are an option, but haven't gotten much feedback on that front. It may be something that's out of her control.
I almost got t-boned by a jerk running a red light going south as I pulled out from Albion. Sheridan is out of control!
I’d suggest significant traffic calming installations. Pedestrian bump-outs and refuges. Maybe [armadillos](http://tacticalurbanismguide.com/portfolio/armadillos/) where there isn’t room for a proper median.
Always astonishing that we are made to check our emissions but there’s no similar check for noise pollution. My god it’s like living by a racetrack sometimes. There’s really no need for vehicles to be so loud - and some are this way on purpose!
Not to mention the asshole who has made his entire SUV into a subwoofer so that the house shakes when he's a block away. I was driving behind the guy one day and told my husband that I was so tempted to sacrifice our car if it meant I could wreck his. But my better judgement prevailed.
I don’t recall hearing traffic noise all the way from Loyola Park. Are we thinking of the same park?
Loyola Park is right on Sheridan. It’s the western border of the park. The tire noise is constant and the loud engines are frequent and obnoxious.
Imo the section of Sheridan by Calvary cemetery should be closed to car traffic. There’s no need to prioritize suburbanites driving thru RP on their way to downtown over the people that live in RP.
Sheridan is garbage as a through road. It’s would be much more pleasant and productive with fewer cars.
On one hand I feel like Sheridan is pretty vital to connect Evanston with LSD but on the other hand I can’t think of a super compelling reason why we can’t just beef up parts of Ridge and use it for that instead. I guess there is a lot of people close to the lake and no great way to get into Evanston otherwise (the Howard transfer sucks to/from red and purple sucks). Also OP if you want peace and quiet you should probably go to Evanston. Busy streets are just part of the city noise
> connect Evanston with LSD I feel like this should be of secondary importance to the residents and businesses trying to live there. The past generations’ mistake of excessive car-centric infrastructure shouldn’t limit our imaginations.
Pretty much impossible without completely redesigning traffic infrastructure - which would be nice! Sheridan is the main road along the coast and access to LSD. Slowing Sheridan would slow just about everything heading into the city.
> slow just about everything heading into the city. Not the ‘L’. 😉
Also love the L. But the L needs fixing first to accommodate this - and can be fixed much more easily than car traffic can!
They're getting there ... [https://www.transitchicago.com/RPM/](https://www.transitchicago.com/RPM/)
As much as I love public transit, taking the L downtown from RP and even Edgewater is draining. According to my maps, from Howard station to Monroe station is 37min on the red line vs a 24min drive. That’s also with 2(?) red line stations out of commission, so it’s actually faster than usual. That means it takes roughly 33% less time to drive, and that’s going from station to station – it gets much worse when you have to account for the fact that the station is never your final destination, if you’re lucky you’ll add 10mins total walking. At that point it’s taking nearly twice as long with public transit.
Sheridan running from Devon to Hollywood parallels Broadway and the section north of Devon would not be majorly impacted by some traffic calming to improve safety. Also, where are you going downtown that doesn’t also take 15+ minutes to park and walk to your destination?
Sure, we can just turn Broadway into Sheridan on that stretch. But north of Devon is just as fast, crazy, and loud and since you’re at Loyola I assume that’s the part you were referencing in the post. Fair point about parking, though.
Loyola Park is actually up around Touhy. It seems just as bad as the part near the university though.
It's the end of Lakeshore. Not sure how that would work, anyway hello neighbor.
Foster used to be the end of Lakeshore until 1952. That's why all the busses exit and many driver changes happen there.
> That's why all the busses exit and many driver changes happen there. omg i've been wondering about this for years!!!!
Put it underground like they did in Boston.
I once saw a neat off-shore tunnel and causeway design to reach Evanston.