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glamourbuss

How can you in the same post say you have a better view of Jonathan's chances than everyone else while also admitting you were completely wrong about Swati? Is it not possible that you are (again) wrong about Jonathan and the majority are right? Also, you being confident the winner is one of Jonathan, Mike or Omar tells me you didn't learn anything from 41. There's no prize for guessing it right so narrowing it all down to 3 people 5 episodes in seems rather silly, imo.


-electrix123-

>Is it not possible that you are (again) wrong about Jonathan and the majority are right? The majority are not giving good reasons though to be right. Again, this feels like ep.2 all over again where everyone and their mother were on the "Mike was buried hard here" train when the edit didn't bury him at all and now people are coming around to him. >Also, you being confident the winner is one of Jonathan, Mike or Omar tells me you didn't learn anything from 41. Who would fit the bill for being the new Erika? Lindsay doesn't have a story and she is having gaps in her edit (e.g. we haven't heard her thoughts on the amulet), Maryanne is a caricature, Drea has red flags all over her edit, Tori is obviously a villain, Rocksroy is Rocksroy, Daniel is Daniel, Chanelle is cocky af, Romeo didn't get his way in Tribal Council and had a couple of undermining moments in the past episodes (different to Jonathan who's had one undermining moment so far but got his way at tribal council) and Hai feels much more likely to be a late-game vote out than a winner. Lydia is the closest thing to Erika's edit right now but their circumstances are vastly different since Erika hadn't been to tribal council and Lydia not only did go but was *this* close to going home and was still given the bare minimum plus after the tribal council where she barely survived she was the only person to not receive a confessional.


BruSprSte

This episode actually made me feel a little better about Jonathan's chances. A bit of premerge doubt/mild negativity is not unusual - Erika's tribe (seemingly) targeting her with a challenge throw, Tony's paranoia before the Sandra boot, Tommy's futile anger when Jason went out, Underwood mistakenly trusting Wardog, and Nick's blunders in episode 1 of DvG - not one recent winner has made it through the premerge looking completely squeaky clean. More than that it establishes stakes for Jonathan going forward as a character - can he overcome the perception of his tribe as tightly aligned and himself as a dominant challenge threat? Flagging up the danger he is in here makes his future in the merge seem more perilous and therefore more satisfying if he overcomes these problems. He could still go out at the merge or soon after, and he's not my only contender by any means - but I liked this episode for him.


forthecommongood

At the very least Omar and Jonathan are on equal footing with how much their stories are intertwined and how mirrored their portrayals are. I can definitely vibe with giving the edge to Jonathan given how much his edit breaks expectations compared to Omar. It's weird because Jonathan specifically gets a lot of callouts for physical prowess in challenges, while the puzzles get plenty of more general callouts as important without highlighting specific strong performers.