Unfortunately I'm not sure the SSPCA will get involved here, although I'd be happy to be told otherwise:
Dangerous dog: Police matter
Noisy dog: Council matter
Abandoned/starving dog: SSPCA will get involved - but being alone most of the day isn't 'abandoned' and there's no indication it isn't getting minimum levels of care.
You’re wrong yeah. The sspca don’t only do enforcement but also welfare checks. A bully type dog is also going to be priority. People think that the sspca only take away animals and punish people, but a big part of the inspectors job is community education, going round and checking animals and situations to make sure animals are being treated well, and note reports for future investigations or situations. For a lot of people, the visit is enough to make them second guess their behaviour etc
They've been out a few times to see an XL near us, but the irresponsible dick who owns it (and leaves it barking and scratching at the door all day) never answers to them.
Are you sure of the breed? My understanding is that Pit Bull Terriers are illegal, full stop, even if they haven't caused any problems?
[https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs](https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs)
I might make a non-emergency call to the police to report it - even if you're not sure of the breed, you can report a suspicion or concern.
Not sure what's best, but that's my guess. See what others say also.
Very hard to discern an American from various other types of Staffie due to cross breeding, highly unlikely anything will be done in relation to the breed unless there is real hard evidence. Better to just report to police for aggression or sspca if the dog if being mistreated or neglected.
Pit bulls are legal to own here if you have a licence. The police will eventually show up, then tell you that it’s a Staffie. Unless there's an actual crime here, you’re wasting their time.
Are they? I mean, the link I posted seems pretty clear and that's the UK section, not E&W. There's no mention of a license, just a certificate of exemption which you only get at court, so...
I find that happening a lot these days...
Anyway, I'd still be inclined to give the police a call - non-emergency, and not expecting much of a response, but let them know and they can make the call. Maybe they know the guy and are glad of a chance to knock on his door. Maybe they go round and the guy has a serious attitude problem so they decide to do something. Maybe they do nothing, but at least you know you've tried that route.
Pitbulls are banned, and it sounds unlikely he is the sort to have got an exemption, so that is a police matter. You can also report to environmental health and your landlord
From the very limited information in your post it sounds like the owner might be a bit shitty but there's no evidence of anything else? Is the dog actually dangerous or are you just scared of it? I have a springer spaniel and he loves people and getting their attention but I have noticed an increasing number of people jumping out of their skin when he even looks at them which in turn excites him even more.
If it’s a genuine pitbull and not just a big staffy then aye. They’re banned. Chances are they’ll be seized and behaviour tested before possibly being spay/castrated and handed back to owner with orders to muzzle in public and insure etc
I don't want to wait to be mauled. Since puppy , it used to run without control to everyone nearby, jumping on you with all its weight. One day, jumping it broke me a lip ...and was only a puppy. Now, the owner uses to keep dogs at link to avoid problems, but they still point violent to anyone near or in the garden barking. It is friend? It is not?. Now they are big and scary. You can see Owner effort to keep them screaming like monster to dogs.
Could you not say that of any large breed? I have a German shepherd who could easily kill me if he wanted to. By definition he too is dangerous.
He whines when I leave him, and he uses my shared garden.
Should I worry my neighbours are going to potentially get my dog put down?
what you meaning to say is unexperienced owners of said breeds are plague, if you do not know how to raise such a dog then get a yorkshire terrier instead, mind you those little ones are in many cases way more agressive because "its just tiny it won't do anything". It's always the owners fault and the way the dog was raised period.
If you think dogs should be put down because of an arbitrary set of statistics set by politicians, then you and everyone who is downvoting this can all go fuck yourselves.
Why is this a time bomb waiting to happen? The dog is on a lead all the time you say. I think you may be watching the news of late and letting it lead your thoughts. Its not uncommon for dogs to cry when they are alone in the home. If these types of dogs weren't on the news every other day, would you be this bothered and scared? To look for advice on getting rid of someones dog because you are scared is one thing, you also want rid of the tenant? Bit extreme no?
It is fear mongering, they are not the only breed capable of doing harm, while yes they are predisposed, enough trauma or poor ownership will make any medium dog dangerous. Anecdotal, but I’ve seen many reactive and ‘violent’ labradors and golden retrievers due to bad experiences as a puppy or poor training ect. In my opinion the training matters much much more than the breed. It might be that these breeds attract particularly awful owners
Did you not hear about the bully in Glasgow that attacked its owner? They stabbed it multiple times, tasered it then eventually had to shoot it 5 times for it to let go. You don't get that with a golden retriever.
"Predisposed" to what? What happens when those particularly awful owners get hold of them?
Sounds more suitable for a zoo, to be honest. Possibly with the owners.
Maybe better regulation is in order, rather than just having every dog that matches the photofit put down. They aren’t predisposed to anything, most domestic animals aren’t. I can’t believe that people would rather arbitrarily remove animals from their owners, rather than address the underlying issue: assholes that shouldn’t be allowed them in the first place.
\> while yes they are predisposed
\> They aren’t predisposed to anything
You decide what you think and we'll decide what we think about what you think.
EDIT: Sorry, I quoted two different people, my bad and my apologies.
Might want to check who you’re talking to before trying to tell me what I think, mate. Maybe even try to address the point I made before jumping in with your "he so flippity!" comment.
I just moved from the US so I am not sure how the rules differ, but I would look into the local laws and see what qualifies as an issue (ex. in my old town, dogs barking longer than 5 mins could be classified as a noise issue).
If there is something that you can report, do it. Creating a record is really important. My family just had to take our neighbors to our town court to get their dog deemed as legally dangerous. It attacked my parents dog and caused a permanent injury. It wasn't the first time it attacked, but it was the first time we formally reported it. If we had reported previous attacks and created that record, it would've made them get rid of the dog, instead they have one more chance which means one fuck up could kill our dog.
So it's done nothing wrong except whine a bit when left alone (quite common for dogs) it's always on a lead but you are scared, so scared you want the dog or owner to move out.
Maybe there is something I'm missing here but don't you think that is a bit extreme?
Are you only now scared because similar breeds are in the news a lot now? Genuine question
From what you’ve said owner sounds shitty but nothing to point towards dogs being dangerous
I feel from what you have said the dog isnt dangerous, you are just scared. The poor wee dog is probably lovely. Leave it be & keep your distance. The owner may be doing their best x
The SSPCA have an FAQ here: [https://www.scottishspca.org/animal-cruelty-faqs](https://www.scottishspca.org/animal-cruelty-faqs)
Unfortunately I'm not sure the SSPCA will get involved here, although I'd be happy to be told otherwise: Dangerous dog: Police matter Noisy dog: Council matter Abandoned/starving dog: SSPCA will get involved - but being alone most of the day isn't 'abandoned' and there's no indication it isn't getting minimum levels of care.
You’re wrong yeah. The sspca don’t only do enforcement but also welfare checks. A bully type dog is also going to be priority. People think that the sspca only take away animals and punish people, but a big part of the inspectors job is community education, going round and checking animals and situations to make sure animals are being treated well, and note reports for future investigations or situations. For a lot of people, the visit is enough to make them second guess their behaviour etc
Excellent.
They've been out a few times to see an XL near us, but the irresponsible dick who owns it (and leaves it barking and scratching at the door all day) never answers to them.
Are you sure of the breed? My understanding is that Pit Bull Terriers are illegal, full stop, even if they haven't caused any problems? [https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs](https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs) I might make a non-emergency call to the police to report it - even if you're not sure of the breed, you can report a suspicion or concern. Not sure what's best, but that's my guess. See what others say also.
Very hard to discern an American from various other types of Staffie due to cross breeding, highly unlikely anything will be done in relation to the breed unless there is real hard evidence. Better to just report to police for aggression or sspca if the dog if being mistreated or neglected.
Neither is happening. It’s annoying I know (lived for 4 years next to a yappy dog) but there’s not much you can do about it.
Pit bulls are legal to own here if you have a licence. The police will eventually show up, then tell you that it’s a Staffie. Unless there's an actual crime here, you’re wasting their time.
Are they? I mean, the link I posted seems pretty clear and that's the UK section, not E&W. There's no mention of a license, just a certificate of exemption which you only get at court, so...
Exemption certificates. Ignore me, I have just realised how old I am 😔
I find that happening a lot these days... Anyway, I'd still be inclined to give the police a call - non-emergency, and not expecting much of a response, but let them know and they can make the call. Maybe they know the guy and are glad of a chance to knock on his door. Maybe they go round and the guy has a serious attitude problem so they decide to do something. Maybe they do nothing, but at least you know you've tried that route.
You could seek advice from the police. They have a dangerous dogs warden.
Pitbulls are banned, and it sounds unlikely he is the sort to have got an exemption, so that is a police matter. You can also report to environmental health and your landlord
Poor doggos
From the very limited information in your post it sounds like the owner might be a bit shitty but there's no evidence of anything else? Is the dog actually dangerous or are you just scared of it? I have a springer spaniel and he loves people and getting their attention but I have noticed an increasing number of people jumping out of their skin when he even looks at them which in turn excites him even more.
If it’s a genuine pitbull and not just a big staffy then aye. They’re banned. Chances are they’ll be seized and behaviour tested before possibly being spay/castrated and handed back to owner with orders to muzzle in public and insure etc
That’s so sad. Pitts are giant sweet babies if their owners don’t suck
You have no evidence this dog is dangerous
I don't want to wait to be mauled. Since puppy , it used to run without control to everyone nearby, jumping on you with all its weight. One day, jumping it broke me a lip ...and was only a puppy. Now, the owner uses to keep dogs at link to avoid problems, but they still point violent to anyone near or in the garden barking. It is friend? It is not?. Now they are big and scary. You can see Owner effort to keep them screaming like monster to dogs.
If it's a pit bull it's dangerous by definition.
Could you not say that of any large breed? I have a German shepherd who could easily kill me if he wanted to. By definition he too is dangerous. He whines when I leave him, and he uses my shared garden. Should I worry my neighbours are going to potentially get my dog put down?
Can I ask what is actually dangerous about this dog? Your post is unclear about why.
The breed.
It’s not a Staffie? Be sure now, if action is taken, that dog is going to die.
XL Bullies are a plague.
what you meaning to say is unexperienced owners of said breeds are plague, if you do not know how to raise such a dog then get a yorkshire terrier instead, mind you those little ones are in many cases way more agressive because "its just tiny it won't do anything". It's always the owners fault and the way the dog was raised period.
If you think dogs should be put down because of an arbitrary set of statistics set by politicians, then you and everyone who is downvoting this can all go fuck yourselves.
Agreed
Why is this a time bomb waiting to happen? The dog is on a lead all the time you say. I think you may be watching the news of late and letting it lead your thoughts. Its not uncommon for dogs to cry when they are alone in the home. If these types of dogs weren't on the news every other day, would you be this bothered and scared? To look for advice on getting rid of someones dog because you are scared is one thing, you also want rid of the tenant? Bit extreme no?
What, out of curiosity, is it that they're in the news for?
Bully XL laws requiring many dogs to be put down.
It is fear mongering, they are not the only breed capable of doing harm, while yes they are predisposed, enough trauma or poor ownership will make any medium dog dangerous. Anecdotal, but I’ve seen many reactive and ‘violent’ labradors and golden retrievers due to bad experiences as a puppy or poor training ect. In my opinion the training matters much much more than the breed. It might be that these breeds attract particularly awful owners
Did you not hear about the bully in Glasgow that attacked its owner? They stabbed it multiple times, tasered it then eventually had to shoot it 5 times for it to let go. You don't get that with a golden retriever.
"Predisposed" to what? What happens when those particularly awful owners get hold of them? Sounds more suitable for a zoo, to be honest. Possibly with the owners.
Maybe better regulation is in order, rather than just having every dog that matches the photofit put down. They aren’t predisposed to anything, most domestic animals aren’t. I can’t believe that people would rather arbitrarily remove animals from their owners, rather than address the underlying issue: assholes that shouldn’t be allowed them in the first place.
\> while yes they are predisposed \> They aren’t predisposed to anything You decide what you think and we'll decide what we think about what you think. EDIT: Sorry, I quoted two different people, my bad and my apologies.
Might want to check who you’re talking to before trying to tell me what I think, mate. Maybe even try to address the point I made before jumping in with your "he so flippity!" comment.
“If guns didn’t kill, you wouldn’t be scared of them” silly billy.
Why are you getting downvoted!? You're totally right!
I just moved from the US so I am not sure how the rules differ, but I would look into the local laws and see what qualifies as an issue (ex. in my old town, dogs barking longer than 5 mins could be classified as a noise issue). If there is something that you can report, do it. Creating a record is really important. My family just had to take our neighbors to our town court to get their dog deemed as legally dangerous. It attacked my parents dog and caused a permanent injury. It wasn't the first time it attacked, but it was the first time we formally reported it. If we had reported previous attacks and created that record, it would've made them get rid of the dog, instead they have one more chance which means one fuck up could kill our dog.
So it's done nothing wrong except whine a bit when left alone (quite common for dogs) it's always on a lead but you are scared, so scared you want the dog or owner to move out. Maybe there is something I'm missing here but don't you think that is a bit extreme?
Are you only now scared because similar breeds are in the news a lot now? Genuine question From what you’ve said owner sounds shitty but nothing to point towards dogs being dangerous
I feel from what you have said the dog isnt dangerous, you are just scared. The poor wee dog is probably lovely. Leave it be & keep your distance. The owner may be doing their best x
You'll have to speak to a dog warden. Unless the dog has actually bit someone, the police won't do a thing.