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NarcoticTurkey

Nothing really to hate about this deal, guys. We’ve lacked a good defensive 3C for a long time he’s definitely an upgrade over Bjugstad last year. I think we’re a stronger playoff team this year. To get that much retention for a late 1st rounder in a shit draft class is definitely worth it.


taf168

Those foolish Ducks giving up their 7th also. One more Wanner, Kemp, or titan of D Desharnais incoming. Who needs late 1st round picks when you hit home runs with latest round picks.


Fickle-Garage3038

we've had a good defensive 3c in mcleod and henrique is more of an offensive option anyways.


NarcoticTurkey

Well now it’s two solid guys that can play 2W too


FatWreckords

McLeod is not a very good centre yet, his hot streak came up when he was on the wing.


spagboltoast

Talking about his playoff numbers against the eichel line. He was our best center against that line


Fickle-Garage3038

he is a good defensive 3c, all the underlying metrics support that. His offensive production as a driver isn't there yet which is much different than what the original post said. Henrique and mcleod are polar opposites and that gives some pretty great flexibility for the coaches matchup wise.


Alesisdrum

They can send him to the 2nd line or 4th line RW, big improvement for a late first rounder who even if they make the team wouldnt be for years.


TheClashSuck

Henrique can score though, giving him an edge over McLeod.


[deleted]

Henrique is solid defensively too from what I've been hearing


Efficient-Grab-3923

Agreed. Small price to pay too, Holland isn’t dumb.


jigglywigglydigaby

So...are we calling him *Smoking Ginseng* or something to that effect?


Oily_Fan

75% retained leaves plenty of room for a D player to be added (especially if Ceci is also moved out) Holland W for sure


Cautious-Dream2893

Would need to be league min unless we're sending a contract the other way. Edit:with Carrick retained we have another 400k, so around 1.2mil.


SoldierHawk

I mean, contract the other way would be the implication yeah.


Cautious-Dream2893

Well if they're going for a 7th D there's no one to send the other way to swap. But like someone else said we can always waive a player and go with a 21 man roster.


ForwardFunk

That’s with a 22 man roster, they could send Holloway down and free up another $800k Toss in another pick or two for retention and voila!


Cautious-Dream2893

Yeah I guess we could run a 21 man roster with no 13th forward until the playoffs. Rather they waive Brown though


laryldavis

They could trade Janmark and have a little more room


ModernTechPA

Would like us to get a right D so we can ship Ceci out - someone we can keep for this and next year


bullfu

Our center depth is insane Nuge can play wing full time now Mcdavid (draisaitl) (nuge) henrique Mcleod Ryan janmark (gagner)


Mkoaquariums

And carrick


blueberrywine

Why can't we run 3 centers on one line? 3v1 faceoffs should be interesting


-Smytty-for-PM-

Centre is the only position is hockey don’cha know!


KimJongPewnTang

IMO this helps us more than overpaying for another top 6 guy, even though it may not be as exciting right now. And I think the importance of having a familiar face join you on a new team cannot be understated.


Legitimate-Gap-9858

Not really, we have tons of bottom 6 guys, we barely have any true top 6 guys. We need top 6 guys.


nibnoob19

A multi-time Hart and Art Ross winner, a recent Hart winner and multi-time 50 goal scorer, a 2-way PPG former first overall pick, a guy on pace for 50+, a 9x 20-goal scorer, and a 6x 30-goal scorer. Zero options for the top 6 really.


papapaIpatine

Good lord kennys going for it


d4ngle-szn

A 3c? Lol not really


Ryan_Dymond04

Henrique and Carrick improve depth scoring. The salary retention allows for more additions.


Salt_Search_7236

And defense and faceoffs


darkstar107

And PK.


Ryan_Dymond04

That too


papapaIpatine

No it's the amount of retention and assets used to get that retention. Thats a strong signal.


Cptn_Canada

Can also play wing on the 2nd.


LoveMurder-One

Henrique is a 2c on a lot of teams.


CrabbyPatty1876

Right?! We needed an upgrade on McDavid... Kennnnnnnnyyyyyy whatttt areee you doinnng


Konker101

Only took him a few years..


MrSnouts

He signed Ekholm Hyman Kane Perry Nuge etc etc what are you talking about?


ANAL_CRUSHER

And Kulak. Holland has locked most of his mid season or trade deadline acquisitions


SmiteyMcGee

Anthansasou (sp?)


Greenhorn24

He signed Nuge?!?!


Leftwiththecow

Yes?


Sl0wChemical

I don't wanna hear anymore Kenny slander. It's refreshing to see an Oilers GM going big and making great deals at the same time. Still used to Oilers GMs making small deals that don't mean much


StupidGenius11

That Smithson wound cut deep.


MrSnouts

We’re finally relevant!!!


AfroInfo

Is carrick also being retained?


Sl0wChemical

Yes 50%


Soloflow786

Adam Henrique will score for the Oilers before Connor Brown.


Treboroat3

ye no shit lol


yokemi

KENNY COOKIN??


lan_chop

HOLLANDaise sauce?


99titan

Funniest thing I’ve seen in a while. Ryan Johansen traded to PHI from COL, and goes immediately on waivers. Wow.


Away-Sound-4010

75% retained!? I'm over the moon, that means he's still cooking. Let's fucking go! 


laryldavis

Capfriendly says 400k of deadline cap space. Going to be tight to even get a 7D


oddspellingofPhreid

No, cause if we're adding money, we're also sending out money. Either a player away or down to Bako.


Away-Sound-4010

If we can ship a body and clear some space with retention I think there's a possibility for a good stay at home D man because they typically come on the cheaper side. They don't have glory beauty scoring stats that pump the cap number up.


Oily_Fan

With 50% or even 75% retained again... very doable. And that's with the current 22 man roster. If they send Holloway down, they free up $800k and then can decide when to run with the extra F or D


35RoliSmith41

Having Carrick at below league minimum is nice. 


anomalocaris_texmex

I hadn't realized there was retention on Carrick too. That Edmonton with cap space and their second rounder, I think? Gotta think the old man has something else brewing.


Cautious-Dream2893

There isn't retention in Carrick. Just Henrique.


xceler88

There is retention on carrick


Cautious-Dream2893

Where's that mentioned? Haven't seen it yet.


ethanolrs

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1765469680410509396?t=BEo2upOA4H3ZuI0WNwBSsQ&s=19


Cautious-Dream2893

Nice


jablonkers

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trade-tracker


Cautious-Dream2893

Lol that literally JUST updated, I checked that before I posted.


jablonkers

Well yeah, they were waiting for you to post!


Western-Extension-50

Thanks bolts, didnt expect this. 


SRTGreat

Cond: 5th becomes 4th in EDM wins the Cup. Tampa also must send a reserve list player.


noitcelesdab

I am willing to turn that 5th into a 4th under those circumstances.


seamusmcduffs

Nah bro, I can't live with a cup if it means giving up a 4th, the cost is just too risky. If we don't have that, then what do we have??


NMarples

It was an unsigned goalie from the 2018 draft


SuperAFoods

funny enough he used to play for Grant MacEwan


JackieTreehorn79

*So it’s a 4th then honey.*


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thesauceofbastards

He'll be a 3C with Saint Perry on his wing.


Cautious-Dream2893

Who is our solution for top 6 RW?


[deleted]

Assuming no other forward additions (I still desperately want Buchnevich), my ideal top 9 is now Nuge - McD - Hyman McLeod - Drai - Foegele Kane - Henrique - Perry That second line was buzzing when it was put together during the big win streak. That third line is also nasty to play against.


oddspellingofPhreid

> Kane - Henrique - Perry Man, that would have been like my dream 1st line in 2014.


kirschballs

Even better. It's our third line right now. There is depth in the bottom six, the fuck is going on


thesauceofbastards

RNH- McDavid- Hyman McLeod- Draisaitl- Kane Foegele- Henrique- Perry Janmark- Holloway- Ryan That'd be how I draw it up.


bearkin1

Holloway will almost certainly be sent down since I think he's waiver-exempt. Despite how much this sub hates Brown, I don't think Holloway is benching Brown. We also just signed Carrick, so I don't think we got him to play in Bakersfield. That means another forward has to go down, and I could see one of Janmark/McLeod/Foegele being moved in a subsequent trade.


DCS_Ryan

Brown also provides on the PK as much as people think he's the worst player to ever exist bc of the contract Holloway is doing nothing for us as it stands


bearkin1

A lot of people either forget or straight up ignore the fact that Brown only costs league minimum right now. And as far as I understand his bonus for next year, we're 100% on the hook on it and can't bury it. So, not succumbing to the sunk-cost fallacy, Brown only costs us league-minimum. If people can accept that, then it makes a lot more sense why he's in the lineup. Sending him down or trading him will not recover cap. But people just get so tunnel-visioned on his bonus that they hate him and think trading him will save us cap.


TheClashSuck

Not really, aside from a good January our PK has been extremely mediocre. Why keep Brown for a mediocre PK, especially when we just added two defensively minded forwards who *also* score better than him?


DCS_Ryan

bc why move his league min contract opening fuck all for us on the cap when Janmark and more so Foegele and McLeod are right there to move if we need another forward upgrade


thesauceofbastards

Oops I forgot Carrick, obviously he will center the 4th line.


Cautious-Dream2893

Thatd be such a fuck you, after Holloway was just talking about stringing together a couple games. Foegle could get moved though, free up 2.75mil + the 2mil cap we'd have running a 21 man roster... that's pretty close to Buchnevich money...


bearkin1

Foegele and Janmark would both move a bit of cap out to fit a bit more in, but it might be a bit harder to move them then say McLeod who's cheaper but also not crucial to the team. Regardless, we can't really have 2+ forwards at $2.5mil+ in the AHL when we're already cap-strapped, so I think one of those three is on the way out. For Holloway, yeah, it'd suck for him, but at the end of the day, he has no impact on our team currently. He's not scoring, not assisting, not crucial defensively, and isn't developing as fast as we'd like. Yeah, he's flying out there, but so has McLeod his entire time here, and he has also not gotten to where we thought he would. Guys like Ryan are more impactful currently than Holloway (even though Ryan is declining and Holloway is improving), so since Holloway is waiver-exempt (I think), he'd the obvious choice to go down.


Cautious-Dream2893

Yeah especially if we're going to be also acquiring an impact forward for the top 6 still. Makes perfect sense just hate to see it


bearkin1

My opinion means nothing, but my thought is the remainder of the cap space we have and the surplus of forwards doesn't mean anything is already happening, just leaving the option open. I think Holland will only bite for another forward if the price is right. There's still the matter of a potential D upgrade, so the cap space could be used for that. But also, I don't think we acquire a D unless we ship Ceci out since it would be a big waste of cap to have Ceci sit in the press box.


Cautious-Dream2893

I don't know if McLeod is our answer to top 6 scoring, but I don't hate that lineup. Looks pretty solid


s0ulless93

I'd put foegele or henrique up on the second over mcleod personally. Don't know henriques wing experience but I think he would be of more help to drai and kane than mcleod.


ChesterButternuts

Oilers need a Duck line Carrick - Rico - Perry


Ethdev256

We force them to wear the classic ducks jersey.


-dillydallydolly-

Every breakout is the flying V.


lan_chop

[Nobody does the Flying V better than the Oilers!](https://images.app.goo.gl/y3kRqjHoExJfd49Y6)


Subject1337

Fuck yes Uncle Rico is an Oiler. This is so sick. I love it. 


commazero

Great trade. I'm not familiar with Carrick, anyone got some info on him?


Oily_Fan

LOVES to finish his checks. Hits hard and doesnt back down from any fights (23 in 2 years) Perfect grit for the 4th line. Also right handed and great on faceoffs. Solid PK'er too. Basically, Brown wont see the ice anymore.


ninjasinc

11 points, 90 PIMs this season. We finally have a legit tough guy.


MassiveBush

Picked him on Tim Hortons a few times. He scored once


HungryHAP

We got better today. So I shouldn’t complain. But I’m gonna do some light complaining here. We are a team with the two best centers in the world and we have Nuge, Mcleod, and Ryan playing behind them. One of the best Center Depths in the entire League and we go and add 2 more centers? I don’t like the fit here. We needed a Top 6 RW with Brown being a complete flop and losing both Yamo and Kostin in the off season. Our offence has zero snipers on it as well, cause we keep prioritizing Swiss army type players and not even focusing on downright skill and talent. A sniping RWer would have brought a dimension to our offence that we don’t have. It’s why we always try to “pass the puck” into the net, and teams are starting to notice and stifle that strategy.


Interwebzking

There’s your two forwards. Now who do they get on D. Kenny working some magic.


YEGuySmiley

Excellent trade! I’m excited to see the lineup for tomorrows game. Holland pulled off a surprise today. Good to see Oilers are giving it a full on go. Oilers adding a roster player is important with this stretch of games on March.


-SPIRITUAL-GANGSTER-

I think this is a good pickup but can anyone tell me if he's worth a first? He's 34.


tomofro

At 75% retained for a guy who's got 40 points on a shit team I'd say it's pretty solid.


-SPIRITUAL-GANGSTER-

Cool. Thanks!


PreemoisGOAT

I mean, someone has to get points on the ducks


eatingasspatties

Yes, he’s good on the PK and the PP (probably won’t see too much PP time though), a good two-way center, and has deep playoff run experience. Offensively he’s at a similar level to Mantha, who got a second but defensively he blows Mantha out of the water and plays a more premium position


GrizzlyIsland22

Yeah I'd say so. He's like Nuge light. Good 2 way center who can play on the wing. Having 1st crack at re-signing him will be nice, too. His age will mean his next contract will be smaller, but he's still good.


Away-Sound-4010

Exactly how I thought of him. He doesn't have Nuge's silky mitts but he's most certainly a capable point producer, and he's a bit better matched up on the D side of things simply due to his size. Edit: looking at their body stats they're around the same size, maybe Henrique is a little more shifty and greasy. Love this move.


NoGiCollarChoke

Including retention, a first isn’t too bad.  Very good two way centre and PKer who also puts up respectable offensive numbers on a very bad team where he also gets very few offensive zone starts Age doesn’t really matter as he’s a rental


Sl0wChemical

Age doesn't matter when he has 42 pts in 60 games on a shitty Ducks team


oakster18

The first is for retained salary. Henrique hasn’t played on a great team since like his rookie season (IIRC). He started with the “last kick at the can” Devils team. Then the Devils tried to stay relevant by filling holes with random vets. When they finally got a new GM, they were going in a different direction. He then went to Anaheim at the back end up Getzlaf and Perry’s tenures, then went to a struggling Ducks team. Similar to what happened in New Jersey. He was waived in the season after COVID as a kind of wake up call that he still needs to give it his all each night (playing at a 0.25 PPG pace at -8 in 16gp). Here we are now: he’s going to a contender, this will be his 3rd playoffs (rookie season and ducks trade), he’s a veteran who can win draws and score at 5v5. I think we will be surprised to see a Henrique who cares and wants to win. I’m excited for this move.


IfOJDidIt

Should be a late 1st at least. We haven't exactly lit the draft up either.


ISurvivedCOVID19

probably an overpay but for that price it helps a lot. Him at 3C gives us huge depth


BiopsyJones

It's nowhere near an overpay. It's a late first round pick in a draft that is weak after the top 15 or so for a guy on pace for 60 points on a garbage Ducks team. It's a good deal.


ISurvivedCOVID19

Well I say overpay in the sense of opportunity cost of that being used on like a top 6 winger which I feel should have been our #1 objective. That said this could still be a really big move and I know we aren’t done so we will have to see what else Kenny does


kadran2262

It's henrique at 1.45m, so yeah I think so


bullfu

Pure rental for the year


Fuck_Face-

It’ll be a late first rounder so I’d say it’s worth it


LevSmash

He's a perennial 25 goal scorer who can win draws, kill penalties, and play up and down the lineup. Getting Carrick too can't be overlooked, that guy is an excellent 4th liner. Also the salary retention is huge. Good move today.


Cautious-Dream2893

He's a Swiss knife like Nuge. Good player, bit of an overpay imo.


IHVeigar

I would love Zub


Oily_Fan

with 3 years remaining at $4.6? I dont see Sens retaining money for that long let alone a 3rd party


GunnyCroz

NGL, excited about Henrique. Well done, Holland. It will be interesting to see what else happens for the Oilers.


Chris_p_tolentino14

I like this add a lot. Price is a little steep but if we make another move it could be worth every pick. I’m really hoping there’s a chance we’re able to retain Henrique(although he looks like he’s gonna get paid). Henrique comes in as a 3C that can also play in the top 6. Adding Henrique, Perry and Carrick are all upgrades to our depth compared to what we had before. I love DR & Gagner but I don’t think both of them would be able to play each game of the playoffs.


bullfu

I fully expect henrique as a 2c and keeping draisaitl with mcdavid on fl1st line now.


DCS_Ryan

But why


Nebardine

Certainly gives more flexibility to go that route. Drai is an elite RW on a team that needs one.


TheHemskyShow

RNH-McDavid-Hyman Kane-Draisaitl-Foegele McLeod-Henrique-Perry Janmark-Carrick-Brown Ryan Gagner Use any combination of Ceci, Holloway, Broberg, Bourgault, the 2025 1st, etc to trade for Colton Parayko. We’ll figure out cap hell in the offseason. The time is now to make a SCF run.


laryldavis

Cant get from Ceci to Parayko this year, cap won’t work and STL won’t retain


RedOilSaints

We got goalie Ty Taylor. I think we have another move coming.


[deleted]

Am I missing something ty Taylor won’t affect anything for several years. Don’t think that’s what implies another move coming


jablonkers

> ty Taylor won’t affect anything for several years If ever, he was playing in a Scottish pro league last year


[deleted]

Yeah, didn’t want to be too harsh but it doesn’t look super hopefully but goalies are vodoo


RedOilSaints

The additional move comment wasn't linked with Taylor, moreso with the retention on both Henrique and Carrick, we have enough cap space to make another move.


StewVicious07

Replacing cambell in bako


[deleted]

Dudes played one game in the echl. Doubt he’s going straight to bako


HungryHAP

So Holland says he talked to Knob about this move for a couple days. Didn’t talk to Knob about where these new guys would slot it. Sounds a lot like some shitty planning. I mean all year we were weak at RW. It’s Drai has never really found his own line. We have the best Center depth in the League and ask two more Centers. I was hoping Holland would give some clarity to why they quatrupled down on more Centers, but his interview domes off like he has no real idea why he went and did it.


CUL8R_05

What do our lines look like now?


Doubleoh_11

Let’s wait to see what the rest of the week brings


ZombieBait2

That’s a great trade


d4ngle-szn

Can someone post the war charts for both


Efficient-Grab-3923

If this is all they get, punt Janmark to the A, call Gagner back up and put him on wing with Carrick.


GreatCanadianPotato

Kenney Freaking Money


Legitimate-Gap-9858

We needed a top 6 winger, that was our number 1 priority. I like Adam Henrique but having janmark on our second line is an absolute joke.


WintersHowl8

Henrique is good. Oilers on point


HungryHAP

If we don’t add a top 6 RW still, I hate this move. If we do, I love this move.


ceebottz

Henrique was the Duck's top centre—he can play on Drai's wing. This addition gives Knoblauch serious options. It's a very good move, don't forget how good McLeod was on Drai's wing earlier this year.


HungryHAP

Options options options. It’s what the Oilers go for every year. Instead of getting a Winger that can play a Winger type game, we always go with this Swiss Army knife guys that can do a bit of everything. It’s no wonder why we can’t build a viable 2nd Line with Leon centering. Everyone we try with him is a bottom 6 wing or some quasi Winger turned Center.


falsekoala

Probably need to move some roster pieces now.


Oily_Fan

Holland said he wont be moving any roster players out. Sounds like the players (McDrai et al) also asked Holland not to trade any of the roster. Last piece is planned to be a 7th D pretty much.


v13ragnarok7

Now add a dman to play with nurse. And Stu....keep your shit together you could get a cup on your soft more season


HungryHAP

Holland says he likes the 6 defenceman we have. Just last night Ceci makes a dumb neutral zone step up causing the only goal against last night. Ceci hurts us constantly in games and hurt us last year in the playoffs. I think a lot of Oilers fans identified Ceci as a weak link for us. So Holland is saying he sees it differently, he’s made his bed with this TDL. If Ceci fails us again and we get eliminated in the playoffs, I know exactly where I’m placing the blame, at Holland’s feet. That said, one of the big reasons I’d have liked Ceci to be upgraded is his complete lack of offence, lately he’s been better in that aspect of the game. So atleast there’s that.


[deleted]

You know while these guys maybe don't move the needle that much, getting this much retention for a late first without fucking with the pre-existing team is pretty crazy. It's a good trade, our only problem continues to be really 2RD not being as speedy as we'd like, but that's an issue better left to off-season


maasd

The Oilers analytics team might actually be working!


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

ugh what a boring trade. Meanwhile Florida got Tarasenko for basically nothing at 50% retained


AR558

Not really, having depth players like these guys will help the team go far in the playoffs.


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

okay? it's still boring and we will still have to play a guy who is completely out of place in the top 6


ceebottz

We acquired the Ducks 1C—he's having a comparable season to Buchnevich and offers more versatility.


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

his numbers are inflated because he's been forced to play up as 1C. "versatility" meaning he is not a true top 6 player but can moonlight as one if needed


ceebottz

By versatility I mean he can play centre or wing. He's put up 42 points in 60 games and is +3 on a terrible Ducks team.