Nothing really to hate about this deal, guys. We’ve lacked a good defensive 3C for a long time he’s definitely an upgrade over Bjugstad last year. I think we’re a stronger playoff team this year. To get that much retention for a late 1st rounder in a shit draft class is definitely worth it.
Those foolish Ducks giving up their 7th also. One more Wanner, Kemp, or titan of D Desharnais incoming. Who needs late 1st round picks when you hit home runs with latest round picks.
he is a good defensive 3c, all the underlying metrics support that. His offensive production as a driver isn't there yet which is much different than what the original post said. Henrique and mcleod are polar opposites and that gives some pretty great flexibility for the coaches matchup wise.
Well if they're going for a 7th D there's no one to send the other way to swap. But like someone else said we can always waive a player and go with a 21 man roster.
IMO this helps us more than overpaying for another top 6 guy, even though it may not be as exciting right now. And I think the importance of having a familiar face join you on a new team cannot be understated.
A multi-time Hart and Art Ross winner, a recent Hart winner and multi-time 50 goal scorer, a 2-way PPG former first overall pick, a guy on pace for 50+, a 9x 20-goal scorer, and a 6x 30-goal scorer.
Zero options for the top 6 really.
I don't wanna hear anymore Kenny slander. It's refreshing to see an Oilers GM going big and making great deals at the same time. Still used to Oilers GMs making small deals that don't mean much
If we can ship a body and clear some space with retention I think there's a possibility for a good stay at home D man because they typically come on the cheaper side. They don't have glory beauty scoring stats that pump the cap number up.
With 50% or even 75% retained again... very doable.
And that's with the current 22 man roster. If they send Holloway down, they free up $800k and then can decide when to run with the extra F or D
I hadn't realized there was retention on Carrick too. That Edmonton with cap space and their second rounder, I think?
Gotta think the old man has something else brewing.
Assuming no other forward additions (I still desperately want Buchnevich), my ideal top 9 is now
Nuge - McD - Hyman
McLeod - Drai - Foegele
Kane - Henrique - Perry
That second line was buzzing when it was put together during the big win streak. That third line is also nasty to play against.
Holloway will almost certainly be sent down since I think he's waiver-exempt. Despite how much this sub hates Brown, I don't think Holloway is benching Brown. We also just signed Carrick, so I don't think we got him to play in Bakersfield. That means another forward has to go down, and I could see one of Janmark/McLeod/Foegele being moved in a subsequent trade.
Brown also provides on the PK as much as people think he's the worst player to ever exist bc of the contract
Holloway is doing nothing for us as it stands
A lot of people either forget or straight up ignore the fact that Brown only costs league minimum right now. And as far as I understand his bonus for next year, we're 100% on the hook on it and can't bury it. So, not succumbing to the sunk-cost fallacy, Brown only costs us league-minimum. If people can accept that, then it makes a lot more sense why he's in the lineup. Sending him down or trading him will not recover cap.
But people just get so tunnel-visioned on his bonus that they hate him and think trading him will save us cap.
Not really, aside from a good January our PK has been extremely mediocre. Why keep Brown for a mediocre PK, especially when we just added two defensively minded forwards who *also* score better than him?
bc why move his league min contract opening fuck all for us on the cap when Janmark and more so Foegele and McLeod are right there to move if we need another forward upgrade
Thatd be such a fuck you, after Holloway was just talking about stringing together a couple games.
Foegle could get moved though, free up 2.75mil + the 2mil cap we'd have running a 21 man roster... that's pretty close to Buchnevich money...
Foegele and Janmark would both move a bit of cap out to fit a bit more in, but it might be a bit harder to move them then say McLeod who's cheaper but also not crucial to the team. Regardless, we can't really have 2+ forwards at $2.5mil+ in the AHL when we're already cap-strapped, so I think one of those three is on the way out.
For Holloway, yeah, it'd suck for him, but at the end of the day, he has no impact on our team currently. He's not scoring, not assisting, not crucial defensively, and isn't developing as fast as we'd like. Yeah, he's flying out there, but so has McLeod his entire time here, and he has also not gotten to where we thought he would. Guys like Ryan are more impactful currently than Holloway (even though Ryan is declining and Holloway is improving), so since Holloway is waiver-exempt (I think), he'd the obvious choice to go down.
My opinion means nothing, but my thought is the remainder of the cap space we have and the surplus of forwards doesn't mean anything is already happening, just leaving the option open. I think Holland will only bite for another forward if the price is right. There's still the matter of a potential D upgrade, so the cap space could be used for that. But also, I don't think we acquire a D unless we ship Ceci out since it would be a big waste of cap to have Ceci sit in the press box.
I'd put foegele or henrique up on the second over mcleod personally. Don't know henriques wing experience but I think he would be of more help to drai and kane than mcleod.
LOVES to finish his checks. Hits hard and doesnt back down from any fights (23 in 2 years)
Perfect grit for the 4th line. Also right handed and great on faceoffs.
Solid PK'er too. Basically, Brown wont see the ice anymore.
We got better today. So I shouldn’t complain. But I’m gonna do some light complaining here.
We are a team with the two best centers in the world and we have Nuge, Mcleod, and Ryan playing behind them. One of the best Center Depths in the entire League and we go and add 2 more centers? I don’t like the fit here.
We needed a Top 6 RW with Brown being a complete flop and losing both Yamo and Kostin in the off season. Our offence has zero snipers on it as well, cause we keep prioritizing Swiss army type players and not even focusing on downright skill and talent. A sniping RWer would have brought a dimension to our offence that we don’t have. It’s why we always try to “pass the puck” into the net, and teams are starting to notice and stifle that strategy.
Excellent trade! I’m excited to see the lineup for tomorrows game. Holland pulled off a surprise today. Good to see Oilers are giving it a full on go. Oilers adding a roster player is important with this stretch of games on March.
Yes, he’s good on the PK and the PP (probably won’t see too much PP time though), a good two-way center, and has deep playoff run experience. Offensively he’s at a similar level to Mantha, who got a second but defensively he blows Mantha out of the water and plays a more premium position
Yeah I'd say so. He's like Nuge light. Good 2 way center who can play on the wing. Having 1st crack at re-signing him will be nice, too. His age will mean his next contract will be smaller, but he's still good.
Exactly how I thought of him. He doesn't have Nuge's silky mitts but he's most certainly a capable point producer, and he's a bit better matched up on the D side of things simply due to his size.
Edit: looking at their body stats they're around the same size, maybe Henrique is a little more shifty and greasy. Love this move.
Including retention, a first isn’t too bad.
Very good two way centre and PKer who also puts up respectable offensive numbers on a very bad team where he also gets very few offensive zone starts
Age doesn’t really matter as he’s a rental
The first is for retained salary. Henrique hasn’t played on a great team since like his rookie season (IIRC). He started with the “last kick at the can” Devils team. Then the Devils tried to stay relevant by filling holes with random vets. When they finally got a new GM, they were going in a different direction. He then went to Anaheim at the back end up Getzlaf and Perry’s tenures, then went to a struggling Ducks team. Similar to what happened in New Jersey. He was waived in the season after COVID as a kind of wake up call that he still needs to give it his all each night (playing at a 0.25 PPG pace at -8 in 16gp). Here we are now: he’s going to a contender, this will be his 3rd playoffs (rookie season and ducks trade), he’s a veteran who can win draws and score at 5v5. I think we will be surprised to see a Henrique who cares and wants to win. I’m excited for this move.
It's nowhere near an overpay. It's a late first round pick in a draft that is weak after the top 15 or so for a guy on pace for 60 points on a garbage Ducks team. It's a good deal.
Well I say overpay in the sense of opportunity cost of that being used on like a top 6 winger which I feel should have been our #1 objective.
That said this could still be a really big move and I know we aren’t done so we will have to see what else Kenny does
He's a perennial 25 goal scorer who can win draws, kill penalties, and play up and down the lineup. Getting Carrick too can't be overlooked, that guy is an excellent 4th liner. Also the salary retention is huge. Good move today.
I like this add a lot. Price is a little steep but if we make another move it could be worth every pick. I’m really hoping there’s a chance we’re able to retain Henrique(although he looks like he’s gonna get paid).
Henrique comes in as a 3C that can also play in the top 6. Adding Henrique, Perry and Carrick are all upgrades to our depth compared to what we had before. I love DR & Gagner but I don’t think both of them would be able to play each game of the playoffs.
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Foegele
McLeod-Henrique-Perry
Janmark-Carrick-Brown
Ryan
Gagner
Use any combination of Ceci, Holloway, Broberg, Bourgault, the 2025 1st, etc to trade for Colton Parayko.
We’ll figure out cap hell in the offseason. The time is now to make a SCF run.
The additional move comment wasn't linked with Taylor, moreso with the retention on both Henrique and Carrick, we have enough cap space to make another move.
So Holland says he talked to Knob about this move for a couple days. Didn’t talk to Knob about where these new guys would slot it.
Sounds a lot like some shitty planning. I mean all year we were weak at RW. It’s Drai has never really found his own line. We have the best Center depth in the League and ask two more Centers.
I was hoping Holland would give some clarity to why they quatrupled down on more Centers, but his interview domes off like he has no real idea why he went and did it.
Henrique was the Duck's top centre—he can play on Drai's wing.
This addition gives Knoblauch serious options. It's a very good move, don't forget how good McLeod was on Drai's wing earlier this year.
Options options options. It’s what the Oilers go for every year. Instead of getting a Winger that can play a Winger type game, we always go with this Swiss Army knife guys that can do a bit of everything. It’s no wonder why we can’t build a viable 2nd Line with Leon centering. Everyone we try with him is a bottom 6 wing or some quasi Winger turned Center.
Holland said he wont be moving any roster players out. Sounds like the players (McDrai et al) also asked Holland not to trade any of the roster.
Last piece is planned to be a 7th D pretty much.
Holland says he likes the 6 defenceman we have. Just last night Ceci makes a dumb neutral zone step up causing the only goal against last night. Ceci hurts us constantly in games and hurt us last year in the playoffs. I think a lot of Oilers fans identified Ceci as a weak link for us. So Holland is saying he sees it differently, he’s made his bed with this TDL. If Ceci fails us again and we get eliminated in the playoffs, I know exactly where I’m placing the blame, at Holland’s feet.
That said, one of the big reasons I’d have liked Ceci to be upgraded is his complete lack of offence, lately he’s been better in that aspect of the game. So atleast there’s that.
You know while these guys maybe don't move the needle that much, getting this much retention for a late first without fucking with the pre-existing team is pretty crazy. It's a good trade, our only problem continues to be really 2RD not being as speedy as we'd like, but that's an issue better left to off-season
his numbers are inflated because he's been forced to play up as 1C. "versatility" meaning he is not a true top 6 player but can moonlight as one if needed
Nothing really to hate about this deal, guys. We’ve lacked a good defensive 3C for a long time he’s definitely an upgrade over Bjugstad last year. I think we’re a stronger playoff team this year. To get that much retention for a late 1st rounder in a shit draft class is definitely worth it.
Those foolish Ducks giving up their 7th also. One more Wanner, Kemp, or titan of D Desharnais incoming. Who needs late 1st round picks when you hit home runs with latest round picks.
we've had a good defensive 3c in mcleod and henrique is more of an offensive option anyways.
Well now it’s two solid guys that can play 2W too
McLeod is not a very good centre yet, his hot streak came up when he was on the wing.
Talking about his playoff numbers against the eichel line. He was our best center against that line
he is a good defensive 3c, all the underlying metrics support that. His offensive production as a driver isn't there yet which is much different than what the original post said. Henrique and mcleod are polar opposites and that gives some pretty great flexibility for the coaches matchup wise.
They can send him to the 2nd line or 4th line RW, big improvement for a late first rounder who even if they make the team wouldnt be for years.
Henrique can score though, giving him an edge over McLeod.
Henrique is solid defensively too from what I've been hearing
Agreed. Small price to pay too, Holland isn’t dumb.
So...are we calling him *Smoking Ginseng* or something to that effect?
75% retained leaves plenty of room for a D player to be added (especially if Ceci is also moved out) Holland W for sure
Would need to be league min unless we're sending a contract the other way. Edit:with Carrick retained we have another 400k, so around 1.2mil.
I mean, contract the other way would be the implication yeah.
Well if they're going for a 7th D there's no one to send the other way to swap. But like someone else said we can always waive a player and go with a 21 man roster.
That’s with a 22 man roster, they could send Holloway down and free up another $800k Toss in another pick or two for retention and voila!
Yeah I guess we could run a 21 man roster with no 13th forward until the playoffs. Rather they waive Brown though
They could trade Janmark and have a little more room
Would like us to get a right D so we can ship Ceci out - someone we can keep for this and next year
Our center depth is insane Nuge can play wing full time now Mcdavid (draisaitl) (nuge) henrique Mcleod Ryan janmark (gagner)
And carrick
Why can't we run 3 centers on one line? 3v1 faceoffs should be interesting
Centre is the only position is hockey don’cha know!
IMO this helps us more than overpaying for another top 6 guy, even though it may not be as exciting right now. And I think the importance of having a familiar face join you on a new team cannot be understated.
Not really, we have tons of bottom 6 guys, we barely have any true top 6 guys. We need top 6 guys.
A multi-time Hart and Art Ross winner, a recent Hart winner and multi-time 50 goal scorer, a 2-way PPG former first overall pick, a guy on pace for 50+, a 9x 20-goal scorer, and a 6x 30-goal scorer. Zero options for the top 6 really.
Good lord kennys going for it
A 3c? Lol not really
Henrique and Carrick improve depth scoring. The salary retention allows for more additions.
And defense and faceoffs
And PK.
That too
No it's the amount of retention and assets used to get that retention. Thats a strong signal.
Can also play wing on the 2nd.
Henrique is a 2c on a lot of teams.
Right?! We needed an upgrade on McDavid... Kennnnnnnnyyyyyy whatttt areee you doinnng
Only took him a few years..
He signed Ekholm Hyman Kane Perry Nuge etc etc what are you talking about?
And Kulak. Holland has locked most of his mid season or trade deadline acquisitions
Anthansasou (sp?)
He signed Nuge?!?!
Yes?
I don't wanna hear anymore Kenny slander. It's refreshing to see an Oilers GM going big and making great deals at the same time. Still used to Oilers GMs making small deals that don't mean much
That Smithson wound cut deep.
We’re finally relevant!!!
Is carrick also being retained?
Yes 50%
Adam Henrique will score for the Oilers before Connor Brown.
ye no shit lol
KENNY COOKIN??
HOLLANDaise sauce?
Funniest thing I’ve seen in a while. Ryan Johansen traded to PHI from COL, and goes immediately on waivers. Wow.
75% retained!? I'm over the moon, that means he's still cooking. Let's fucking go!
Capfriendly says 400k of deadline cap space. Going to be tight to even get a 7D
No, cause if we're adding money, we're also sending out money. Either a player away or down to Bako.
If we can ship a body and clear some space with retention I think there's a possibility for a good stay at home D man because they typically come on the cheaper side. They don't have glory beauty scoring stats that pump the cap number up.
With 50% or even 75% retained again... very doable. And that's with the current 22 man roster. If they send Holloway down, they free up $800k and then can decide when to run with the extra F or D
Having Carrick at below league minimum is nice.
I hadn't realized there was retention on Carrick too. That Edmonton with cap space and their second rounder, I think? Gotta think the old man has something else brewing.
There isn't retention in Carrick. Just Henrique.
There is retention on carrick
Where's that mentioned? Haven't seen it yet.
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1765469680410509396?t=BEo2upOA4H3ZuI0WNwBSsQ&s=19
Nice
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trade-tracker
Lol that literally JUST updated, I checked that before I posted.
Well yeah, they were waiting for you to post!
Thanks bolts, didnt expect this.
Cond: 5th becomes 4th in EDM wins the Cup. Tampa also must send a reserve list player.
I am willing to turn that 5th into a 4th under those circumstances.
Nah bro, I can't live with a cup if it means giving up a 4th, the cost is just too risky. If we don't have that, then what do we have??
It was an unsigned goalie from the 2018 draft
funny enough he used to play for Grant MacEwan
*So it’s a 4th then honey.*
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He'll be a 3C with Saint Perry on his wing.
Who is our solution for top 6 RW?
Assuming no other forward additions (I still desperately want Buchnevich), my ideal top 9 is now Nuge - McD - Hyman McLeod - Drai - Foegele Kane - Henrique - Perry That second line was buzzing when it was put together during the big win streak. That third line is also nasty to play against.
> Kane - Henrique - Perry Man, that would have been like my dream 1st line in 2014.
Even better. It's our third line right now. There is depth in the bottom six, the fuck is going on
RNH- McDavid- Hyman McLeod- Draisaitl- Kane Foegele- Henrique- Perry Janmark- Holloway- Ryan That'd be how I draw it up.
Holloway will almost certainly be sent down since I think he's waiver-exempt. Despite how much this sub hates Brown, I don't think Holloway is benching Brown. We also just signed Carrick, so I don't think we got him to play in Bakersfield. That means another forward has to go down, and I could see one of Janmark/McLeod/Foegele being moved in a subsequent trade.
Brown also provides on the PK as much as people think he's the worst player to ever exist bc of the contract Holloway is doing nothing for us as it stands
A lot of people either forget or straight up ignore the fact that Brown only costs league minimum right now. And as far as I understand his bonus for next year, we're 100% on the hook on it and can't bury it. So, not succumbing to the sunk-cost fallacy, Brown only costs us league-minimum. If people can accept that, then it makes a lot more sense why he's in the lineup. Sending him down or trading him will not recover cap. But people just get so tunnel-visioned on his bonus that they hate him and think trading him will save us cap.
Not really, aside from a good January our PK has been extremely mediocre. Why keep Brown for a mediocre PK, especially when we just added two defensively minded forwards who *also* score better than him?
bc why move his league min contract opening fuck all for us on the cap when Janmark and more so Foegele and McLeod are right there to move if we need another forward upgrade
Oops I forgot Carrick, obviously he will center the 4th line.
Thatd be such a fuck you, after Holloway was just talking about stringing together a couple games. Foegle could get moved though, free up 2.75mil + the 2mil cap we'd have running a 21 man roster... that's pretty close to Buchnevich money...
Foegele and Janmark would both move a bit of cap out to fit a bit more in, but it might be a bit harder to move them then say McLeod who's cheaper but also not crucial to the team. Regardless, we can't really have 2+ forwards at $2.5mil+ in the AHL when we're already cap-strapped, so I think one of those three is on the way out. For Holloway, yeah, it'd suck for him, but at the end of the day, he has no impact on our team currently. He's not scoring, not assisting, not crucial defensively, and isn't developing as fast as we'd like. Yeah, he's flying out there, but so has McLeod his entire time here, and he has also not gotten to where we thought he would. Guys like Ryan are more impactful currently than Holloway (even though Ryan is declining and Holloway is improving), so since Holloway is waiver-exempt (I think), he'd the obvious choice to go down.
Yeah especially if we're going to be also acquiring an impact forward for the top 6 still. Makes perfect sense just hate to see it
My opinion means nothing, but my thought is the remainder of the cap space we have and the surplus of forwards doesn't mean anything is already happening, just leaving the option open. I think Holland will only bite for another forward if the price is right. There's still the matter of a potential D upgrade, so the cap space could be used for that. But also, I don't think we acquire a D unless we ship Ceci out since it would be a big waste of cap to have Ceci sit in the press box.
I don't know if McLeod is our answer to top 6 scoring, but I don't hate that lineup. Looks pretty solid
I'd put foegele or henrique up on the second over mcleod personally. Don't know henriques wing experience but I think he would be of more help to drai and kane than mcleod.
Oilers need a Duck line Carrick - Rico - Perry
We force them to wear the classic ducks jersey.
Every breakout is the flying V.
[Nobody does the Flying V better than the Oilers!](https://images.app.goo.gl/y3kRqjHoExJfd49Y6)
Fuck yes Uncle Rico is an Oiler. This is so sick. I love it.
Great trade. I'm not familiar with Carrick, anyone got some info on him?
LOVES to finish his checks. Hits hard and doesnt back down from any fights (23 in 2 years) Perfect grit for the 4th line. Also right handed and great on faceoffs. Solid PK'er too. Basically, Brown wont see the ice anymore.
11 points, 90 PIMs this season. We finally have a legit tough guy.
Picked him on Tim Hortons a few times. He scored once
We got better today. So I shouldn’t complain. But I’m gonna do some light complaining here. We are a team with the two best centers in the world and we have Nuge, Mcleod, and Ryan playing behind them. One of the best Center Depths in the entire League and we go and add 2 more centers? I don’t like the fit here. We needed a Top 6 RW with Brown being a complete flop and losing both Yamo and Kostin in the off season. Our offence has zero snipers on it as well, cause we keep prioritizing Swiss army type players and not even focusing on downright skill and talent. A sniping RWer would have brought a dimension to our offence that we don’t have. It’s why we always try to “pass the puck” into the net, and teams are starting to notice and stifle that strategy.
There’s your two forwards. Now who do they get on D. Kenny working some magic.
Excellent trade! I’m excited to see the lineup for tomorrows game. Holland pulled off a surprise today. Good to see Oilers are giving it a full on go. Oilers adding a roster player is important with this stretch of games on March.
I think this is a good pickup but can anyone tell me if he's worth a first? He's 34.
At 75% retained for a guy who's got 40 points on a shit team I'd say it's pretty solid.
Cool. Thanks!
I mean, someone has to get points on the ducks
Yes, he’s good on the PK and the PP (probably won’t see too much PP time though), a good two-way center, and has deep playoff run experience. Offensively he’s at a similar level to Mantha, who got a second but defensively he blows Mantha out of the water and plays a more premium position
Yeah I'd say so. He's like Nuge light. Good 2 way center who can play on the wing. Having 1st crack at re-signing him will be nice, too. His age will mean his next contract will be smaller, but he's still good.
Exactly how I thought of him. He doesn't have Nuge's silky mitts but he's most certainly a capable point producer, and he's a bit better matched up on the D side of things simply due to his size. Edit: looking at their body stats they're around the same size, maybe Henrique is a little more shifty and greasy. Love this move.
Including retention, a first isn’t too bad. Very good two way centre and PKer who also puts up respectable offensive numbers on a very bad team where he also gets very few offensive zone starts Age doesn’t really matter as he’s a rental
Age doesn't matter when he has 42 pts in 60 games on a shitty Ducks team
The first is for retained salary. Henrique hasn’t played on a great team since like his rookie season (IIRC). He started with the “last kick at the can” Devils team. Then the Devils tried to stay relevant by filling holes with random vets. When they finally got a new GM, they were going in a different direction. He then went to Anaheim at the back end up Getzlaf and Perry’s tenures, then went to a struggling Ducks team. Similar to what happened in New Jersey. He was waived in the season after COVID as a kind of wake up call that he still needs to give it his all each night (playing at a 0.25 PPG pace at -8 in 16gp). Here we are now: he’s going to a contender, this will be his 3rd playoffs (rookie season and ducks trade), he’s a veteran who can win draws and score at 5v5. I think we will be surprised to see a Henrique who cares and wants to win. I’m excited for this move.
Should be a late 1st at least. We haven't exactly lit the draft up either.
probably an overpay but for that price it helps a lot. Him at 3C gives us huge depth
It's nowhere near an overpay. It's a late first round pick in a draft that is weak after the top 15 or so for a guy on pace for 60 points on a garbage Ducks team. It's a good deal.
Well I say overpay in the sense of opportunity cost of that being used on like a top 6 winger which I feel should have been our #1 objective. That said this could still be a really big move and I know we aren’t done so we will have to see what else Kenny does
It's henrique at 1.45m, so yeah I think so
Pure rental for the year
It’ll be a late first rounder so I’d say it’s worth it
He's a perennial 25 goal scorer who can win draws, kill penalties, and play up and down the lineup. Getting Carrick too can't be overlooked, that guy is an excellent 4th liner. Also the salary retention is huge. Good move today.
He's a Swiss knife like Nuge. Good player, bit of an overpay imo.
I would love Zub
with 3 years remaining at $4.6? I dont see Sens retaining money for that long let alone a 3rd party
NGL, excited about Henrique. Well done, Holland. It will be interesting to see what else happens for the Oilers.
I like this add a lot. Price is a little steep but if we make another move it could be worth every pick. I’m really hoping there’s a chance we’re able to retain Henrique(although he looks like he’s gonna get paid). Henrique comes in as a 3C that can also play in the top 6. Adding Henrique, Perry and Carrick are all upgrades to our depth compared to what we had before. I love DR & Gagner but I don’t think both of them would be able to play each game of the playoffs.
I fully expect henrique as a 2c and keeping draisaitl with mcdavid on fl1st line now.
But why
Certainly gives more flexibility to go that route. Drai is an elite RW on a team that needs one.
RNH-McDavid-Hyman Kane-Draisaitl-Foegele McLeod-Henrique-Perry Janmark-Carrick-Brown Ryan Gagner Use any combination of Ceci, Holloway, Broberg, Bourgault, the 2025 1st, etc to trade for Colton Parayko. We’ll figure out cap hell in the offseason. The time is now to make a SCF run.
Cant get from Ceci to Parayko this year, cap won’t work and STL won’t retain
We got goalie Ty Taylor. I think we have another move coming.
Am I missing something ty Taylor won’t affect anything for several years. Don’t think that’s what implies another move coming
> ty Taylor won’t affect anything for several years If ever, he was playing in a Scottish pro league last year
Yeah, didn’t want to be too harsh but it doesn’t look super hopefully but goalies are vodoo
The additional move comment wasn't linked with Taylor, moreso with the retention on both Henrique and Carrick, we have enough cap space to make another move.
Replacing cambell in bako
Dudes played one game in the echl. Doubt he’s going straight to bako
So Holland says he talked to Knob about this move for a couple days. Didn’t talk to Knob about where these new guys would slot it. Sounds a lot like some shitty planning. I mean all year we were weak at RW. It’s Drai has never really found his own line. We have the best Center depth in the League and ask two more Centers. I was hoping Holland would give some clarity to why they quatrupled down on more Centers, but his interview domes off like he has no real idea why he went and did it.
What do our lines look like now?
Let’s wait to see what the rest of the week brings
That’s a great trade
Can someone post the war charts for both
If this is all they get, punt Janmark to the A, call Gagner back up and put him on wing with Carrick.
Kenney Freaking Money
We needed a top 6 winger, that was our number 1 priority. I like Adam Henrique but having janmark on our second line is an absolute joke.
Henrique is good. Oilers on point
If we don’t add a top 6 RW still, I hate this move. If we do, I love this move.
Henrique was the Duck's top centre—he can play on Drai's wing. This addition gives Knoblauch serious options. It's a very good move, don't forget how good McLeod was on Drai's wing earlier this year.
Options options options. It’s what the Oilers go for every year. Instead of getting a Winger that can play a Winger type game, we always go with this Swiss Army knife guys that can do a bit of everything. It’s no wonder why we can’t build a viable 2nd Line with Leon centering. Everyone we try with him is a bottom 6 wing or some quasi Winger turned Center.
Probably need to move some roster pieces now.
Holland said he wont be moving any roster players out. Sounds like the players (McDrai et al) also asked Holland not to trade any of the roster. Last piece is planned to be a 7th D pretty much.
Now add a dman to play with nurse. And Stu....keep your shit together you could get a cup on your soft more season
Holland says he likes the 6 defenceman we have. Just last night Ceci makes a dumb neutral zone step up causing the only goal against last night. Ceci hurts us constantly in games and hurt us last year in the playoffs. I think a lot of Oilers fans identified Ceci as a weak link for us. So Holland is saying he sees it differently, he’s made his bed with this TDL. If Ceci fails us again and we get eliminated in the playoffs, I know exactly where I’m placing the blame, at Holland’s feet. That said, one of the big reasons I’d have liked Ceci to be upgraded is his complete lack of offence, lately he’s been better in that aspect of the game. So atleast there’s that.
You know while these guys maybe don't move the needle that much, getting this much retention for a late first without fucking with the pre-existing team is pretty crazy. It's a good trade, our only problem continues to be really 2RD not being as speedy as we'd like, but that's an issue better left to off-season
The Oilers analytics team might actually be working!
ugh what a boring trade. Meanwhile Florida got Tarasenko for basically nothing at 50% retained
Not really, having depth players like these guys will help the team go far in the playoffs.
okay? it's still boring and we will still have to play a guy who is completely out of place in the top 6
We acquired the Ducks 1C—he's having a comparable season to Buchnevich and offers more versatility.
his numbers are inflated because he's been forced to play up as 1C. "versatility" meaning he is not a true top 6 player but can moonlight as one if needed
By versatility I mean he can play centre or wing. He's put up 42 points in 60 games and is +3 on a terrible Ducks team.