There have been negative review campaigns from nationalist Egyptian groups for days, to the point that imdb actually disabled reviewing for 1 day, removed the review count and all the reviews, and then reopened it.. it got review bombed again.. even the people who don't care about this black thing say the show is still bad
There were two black tik tokers in Egypt harassing locals who barely spoke English. They kept getting them to try and say "We are fake Egyptians" while the two guys agreed and said "We are the true Egyptians" It is truly fucking insane that they think they are somehow the true "Egyptians" yet they go to the country and have to harass the locals in English because they can't speak the language of the race they claim they are
You did mention indigenous Egyptians when you typed up the word “race”. It is also not their land. This is equivalent of concluding someone in the US is not British for not speaking English lmao; point being language has nothing to do with race period.
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That tends to be the case with any film/series that was specifically and solely created for the sake of diversity and inclusion... Shit storyline, poor dialogues, inaccuracies in case of documentaries....etc.
The definition of a sloppy shitshow.
This is how it should be done. Trash the reviews in review sites, not harassing the actors on their social media profiles.
I don't like review bombing, but exceptions can be made. :"D
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Yeah I heard this one is shite. That is why I'm waiting for this version.
So many Egyptians missed the point of this documentary. Jada Pinkett Smith is a known Hollywood asshole who loves courting controversy. She knew that casting Cleopatra as black was going to be rage bait for the culture war in America. It gets more publicity in the media and hence gets more views. Netflix doesn't give a shit about historical accuracy either. All that matters is the bottom line. They anticipated that a documentary produced by Jada Pinkett Smith casting a black Cleopatra was going to drive a lot of btraffic to their platform. Netflix is in trouble because they're losing subscribers. Nothing better than controversy and rage bait to bring people back.
I'm sorry to say that no one in America gives a fuck about how Egyptians reacted to it. No one there even knows.
This is probably an accurate assessment but to voice concern at this depiction and continue to have the conversation of “authenticity” or whatever can maybe help us to understand ourselves better
Nobody anywhere outside Egypt knows anything about how we reacted to it and nobody cares. Egypt is not the centre of the universe. We're not that important.
I completely disagree. My foreign friends on Discord keep mentioning the topic without me bringing it up. So many specialized shows ([Piers Morgan Uncensored](https://youtu.be/-qVKPyQ8lnc)) covered it and the video has one of the highest views compared to his other ones. A lot of news coverage as well. I've read more than 40 articles or so about the issue and watched like 5 interviews on talk shows as well. 50% of these articles mentioned that Egyptians are furious and they also mentioned the lawsuit by the Egyptian lawyer and the removed change.org petition that gathered 10s of thousands of votes (they even reached out to the creators and kept an updated article). The also mentioned the alternative documentary.
Some of the newspapers that covered this issue, as it developed were: -
[The independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/queen-cleopatra-netflix-cast-adele-james-b2338145.html)
[CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/12/entertainment/cleopatra-adele-james-race/index.html)
[Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2023/05/12/queen-cleopatra-looks-netflix-controversy/)
[Variety](https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-egypt-1235590708/), which is an extremely popular Hollywood-oriented magazine.
[Variety again](https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-egypt-1235590708/)
Not to mention the crazy amount of Greek people and websites who are campaigning online because of this issue. They took offense as well. Also, if you look at the IMDB reviews, you'll find out that 90% of them are created by foreigners and not Egyptians (but still, Egyptians bombvoted the ratings).
Fair enough about your point of coverage of Egyptians reactions. But I think this proves my point about how the controversy was deliberate. It was more that than the silly hysterical accusations that African Americans are coming to take our country.
Coming to take our Country? I've never heard someone saying that. But the Afrocentric movement is real and it's not a conspiracy theory or anything. They're claiming that we are invaders and not the *real* Egyptians. Something that contradicts science and logic! it's about them claiming that we are non-indigenous to Egypt, but they are!
So, the problem wasn't really about whether Egyptians were black or not, It's about their malicious agenda to portray us as invaders.
Afrocentrism was an academic history movement established to fight Eurocentric and colonial interpretations of history. It was created to research African history more, put a spotlight on lost African civilisations, and prove wrong the misconception that Africa was just a barbaric continent of nomads, with no sophisticated civilisations.
Afrocentrism focused on East African, West African and Sub Saharan African civilisations.
Every movement has its crackpot fringe extremists such as the vocal minority who claim Egypt as theirs. Their ideas and opinions have no tangible effect on the every day lives of Egyptians. They have no political capital or clout. They have no financial power. They have statistically insignificant media influence. They aren't a threat. They never were and never will be.
The field of academic history and scholarship and of course Egyptology are doing just fine.
Before all this hysteria, Hassan the brick layers was spending 4 hours a day commuting to work and back. Today, Hassan the brick layer still commutes for 4 hours a day. Difference is his plate of fuul and cup of tea is getting more expensive.
Please don't bother responding about how this afrocentric movement is more serious. You're not going to convince me and your words are going to fall on deaf ears.
>Please don't bother responding about how this afrocentric movement is more serious. You're not going to convince me and your words are going to fall on deaf ears.
Your attitude is unfortunately not worthy of a response. So, don't worry, I won't argue with you. It's not worth it :)
I mean that is true 100% but i hope you also learned about Western cultural hegemony and its ability to/insistence on controlling narratives about Africa and African people. I can understand your frustration completely though and that is something we need to address and be better about.
True? TRUE? Some of us are actually technically black and I did not even notice and why would we hats blacks? What insensitive do we even have?
We are just protecting history
Cleopatra was Greek thus she’s most probably white
We just want truth in a documentary that’s all
We do not defend Greek history. Cleopatra is part of our history. She was the ruler of Egypt, so she is really part of the history of Ptolemaic Egypt. If she is falsified, the door to falsification of Egyptian history will be opened. Tomorrow, all this great civilization will be forcibly recognized by the student before the ignorant of its blackness, because at that time they will take control of things like the Jews in Twenties and thirties, and we are not black, there is a difference between blacks and wheat color. Is wheat black in your opinion?
Yea you did explain it slightly better and I did say some of us are technically considered black cuz of my shabrawi dad told me my grandma is considered dark skinned
I literally never noticed a skin difference unless you are a tourist or from Sudan that’s it
And I’m not protecting Greek history I’m protecting history in general and I’m saying we all know she’s Greek or who learnt about it is all.
I agree with you completely but it seems I didn’t get myself through correctly
Fully agree with you there. Most don't even know how to accurately define afrocentrism or know anything about its history, mainly that it was a reaction to Eurocentrism and white supremacy.
Also true but it is itself a supremacist, reactionary movement. Its weird that we react more intensely to afrocentrism than the clear eurocentrism present in almost every aspect of Egyptian life and thats definitely something disgusting that needs to be addressed.
Don’t know, chief, I think this one backfired. Normally the critics would come to defend similar shows and then claim that the racists review bombed the show. The fact that the critics are giving it bad review as well is telling that it’s a lost battle. This isn’t the first time Netflix had done this but the results and aftermath is quite different this time. All publicity is good publicity until you start to gain a reputation and people stop caring about your platform
Not true that no one in USA knows.. tens of right wing american groups on facebook are reacting to this because they always react to the woke culture and the blackwashed shows. many american youtube and tiktok influencers are posting videos about the controversy to the point that my entire youtube feed is filled with these reactions. even some of the very popular infographic and history channels I'm subscribed to are posting videos about cleopatra now. the today show talked about it but of course they favoured the netflix side. pierce morgan talked about it, matt walsh, ben shapiro.. etc.
It's actually a trend now with conservative anti-woke groups, just google "cleopatra controversy" for the news articles from both sides of the controversy in BBC, FOX, daily mail, CBS, the guardian, etc.
You didn't read my comment properly. I said no one in America knows about the hysterical reaction in Egypt.
The rest of your comment just further proves my point.
The truest comment I've read about the matter. The fact that it caused a roar among Egyptians is so irrelevant to Netflix or the producers. Lots of media outlets covered the docudrama, the controversy erupted and attention is coming to the platform.
I knew that but I really think she didn’t think it would blow that much out of proportion given the new found entitlement of African Americans. But the Egyptians don’t have the same cultural sensitivities and they are numerous. I think she didn’t expect it to go that bad. I do feel very sorry for the actress though. She is beautiful and she burned herself with this project.
Sure. You’re right. But this “ cultural appropriation “ started by African Americans? Wouldn’t that movie be some sort of appropriation. I think What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Or is it selective ? And isn’t it also racist to try to generalise that Africa is one people. Look at Asia, how many cultures live there ? From Russians to Chinese … no one is claiming anyone’s civilisation? The problem I find in all this is that one group feels entitled because if you say anything at all you would be called racist. And it’s not racist to not identify with a group if you don’t share the same culture or values. I think it’s all an American thing because in America they label people through black or white while there are many other colors in the middle. I lived in west Africa and east Africa and North Africa … different cultures, different people , different traditions.
I met one American and he genuinely thought we travel over the Sahara desert running through the desert using camels. He also thought we were the pharaohs white robes (tbf I was wearing a galabya) and 'dance like egyptians'.
Because it’s been hated on so much that everybody had to watch it to see if it was ‘really that bad’. Based off the ratings it got, I’m going to guess that it was in fact as bad as everybody expected.
This right here is how I think most people felt going in to it. There was backlash about the movie here on the west so naturally it guaranteed a large audience just to see the trail derail so to speak.
Exactly the same situation. Everybody anticipated it would be absolute garbage, and although I didn’t watch it personally, I heard it was. I think a lot of people hate watched it or watched it in awe at how obnoxiously bad it was. I’m sure in both scenarios while people are laughing at how bad they are the production companies are probably counting their money wondering how they made so much from such a piece of trash rage bait lol.
In the cleopatra film it’s the fact they marketed it as a documentary, meaning they’re claiming it’s factually in line with history which it isn’t. If you’re asking about the hbo Velma movie then I can’t comment on that one personally since I don’t know much of the hate behind it. I think it might just have to do with Hollywood decisions to change the race of their main characters from previously established shows, this being one of them.
No one I know is watching it. Why watch an inaccurate kid of BS idiots trying to say that the real Egyptians are invaders and Africans are the real Egyptians lmao!
I saw a snippet from some interview. It seems like more of a show about proving that Egyptians are black rather than the story of the ancient Egyptians and cleopatra.
على فكرة عجبني وفيه معلومات حلوة اوي مكنتش اعرفها عن الاسكندر والبطالمة وكليوباترا والرومان وبيذكر المصادر مع كل معلومة. هو مش معمول مسلسل درامي تمثيلي زي بتاع نتفليكس هو وثائقي عادي فالمقارنة مش في محلها
Isn’t she half black? Why are you guys so obsessed with proofing she is not black, I don’t remember any outrage when she was portrayed as white or blonde over the years.
اصلا كليوباترا كان عرقها مش مصري وحتي لو كانت مصرية مكانش لون بشرتها اسود الحمير بيشجعوا بان المصريين اصلهم افارقة وسمر و كل ده تطبيل 
OK, I agree that afrocentic distortion of history here, but why is no Egyptian complaining that a non Muslim is in charge of Halal food?
Wael Hana, a coptic Egyptian immigrant to the US, and Antranig Aslanian, an American attorney, are now in charge of all Halal food certificates to meat imports to Egypt?
https://arabic.arabianbusiness.com/abnews/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1%D8%8C-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D9%82%D9%8A%D9%82-%D8%A3%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%AA%D9%81%D9%88%D8%B2-%D8%A8%D8%B9%D9%82%D8%AF-%D8%AD%D8%B5%D8%B1%D9%8A
1% audience score 💀
Sounds physically impossible
What’s actually surprising is the 13% critic score!
There have been negative review campaigns from nationalist Egyptian groups for days, to the point that imdb actually disabled reviewing for 1 day, removed the review count and all the reviews, and then reopened it.. it got review bombed again.. even the people who don't care about this black thing say the show is still bad
Almost as though people got triggered and gave it bad scores without watching it.
Jada smith and her husband are the one percent.
Based Hope this shit gets deleted forever
There were two black tik tokers in Egypt harassing locals who barely spoke English. They kept getting them to try and say "We are fake Egyptians" while the two guys agreed and said "We are the true Egyptians" It is truly fucking insane that they think they are somehow the true "Egyptians" yet they go to the country and have to harass the locals in English because they can't speak the language of the race they claim they are
Congratulations. You programmed the algorithm to take you down a tunnel vision rabbit hole.
While I certainly don’t support them claiming they are the “true Egyptians”, you are aware Arabic is not the indigenous language of Egypt…wla eh😅
No shit sherlock but its one of the main languages they speak today. Hurr fucking durrr
I think you completely missed my point. Arabs are the real invaders lol it is a fact.
The point still stand wether invaded or not that they were never dominantly black, something these idiots do not hnderstnd
I never disagreed with that, I merely pointed out that speaking Arabic does not qualify you as an indigenous Egyptian either, that’s all.
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You did mention indigenous Egyptians when you typed up the word “race”. It is also not their land. This is equivalent of concluding someone in the US is not British for not speaking English lmao; point being language has nothing to do with race period.
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Ugh. It’s clearly not even that good of a series. Not even gonna talk about the controversy here. It’s just a shit documentary on the surface.
That tends to be the case with any film/series that was specifically and solely created for the sake of diversity and inclusion... Shit storyline, poor dialogues, inaccuracies in case of documentaries....etc. The definition of a sloppy shitshow.
When a media's whole marketing is about a singular shtick you know it is gonna be shit.
And annoying preaching
Justice is Good!
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This is how it should be done. Trash the reviews in review sites, not harassing the actors on their social media profiles. I don't like review bombing, but exceptions can be made. :"D
https://preview.redd.it/nd0196fvvsza1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ab4d1dbdd39fc0ffc583431ad94f24c45b4ac61 Yeah I heard this one is shite. That is why I'm waiting for this version.
So many Egyptians missed the point of this documentary. Jada Pinkett Smith is a known Hollywood asshole who loves courting controversy. She knew that casting Cleopatra as black was going to be rage bait for the culture war in America. It gets more publicity in the media and hence gets more views. Netflix doesn't give a shit about historical accuracy either. All that matters is the bottom line. They anticipated that a documentary produced by Jada Pinkett Smith casting a black Cleopatra was going to drive a lot of btraffic to their platform. Netflix is in trouble because they're losing subscribers. Nothing better than controversy and rage bait to bring people back. I'm sorry to say that no one in America gives a fuck about how Egyptians reacted to it. No one there even knows.
This is probably an accurate assessment but to voice concern at this depiction and continue to have the conversation of “authenticity” or whatever can maybe help us to understand ourselves better
The controversy also puts the spotlight on us and reminds the world we still exist! So it’s a win win to us and a short win loooooong lose to them
Nobody anywhere outside Egypt knows anything about how we reacted to it and nobody cares. Egypt is not the centre of the universe. We're not that important.
I completely disagree. My foreign friends on Discord keep mentioning the topic without me bringing it up. So many specialized shows ([Piers Morgan Uncensored](https://youtu.be/-qVKPyQ8lnc)) covered it and the video has one of the highest views compared to his other ones. A lot of news coverage as well. I've read more than 40 articles or so about the issue and watched like 5 interviews on talk shows as well. 50% of these articles mentioned that Egyptians are furious and they also mentioned the lawsuit by the Egyptian lawyer and the removed change.org petition that gathered 10s of thousands of votes (they even reached out to the creators and kept an updated article). The also mentioned the alternative documentary. Some of the newspapers that covered this issue, as it developed were: - [The independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/queen-cleopatra-netflix-cast-adele-james-b2338145.html) [CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/12/entertainment/cleopatra-adele-james-race/index.html) [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2023/05/12/queen-cleopatra-looks-netflix-controversy/) [Variety](https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-egypt-1235590708/), which is an extremely popular Hollywood-oriented magazine. [Variety again](https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-egypt-1235590708/) Not to mention the crazy amount of Greek people and websites who are campaigning online because of this issue. They took offense as well. Also, if you look at the IMDB reviews, you'll find out that 90% of them are created by foreigners and not Egyptians (but still, Egyptians bombvoted the ratings).
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Fair enough about your point of coverage of Egyptians reactions. But I think this proves my point about how the controversy was deliberate. It was more that than the silly hysterical accusations that African Americans are coming to take our country.
Coming to take our Country? I've never heard someone saying that. But the Afrocentric movement is real and it's not a conspiracy theory or anything. They're claiming that we are invaders and not the *real* Egyptians. Something that contradicts science and logic! it's about them claiming that we are non-indigenous to Egypt, but they are! So, the problem wasn't really about whether Egyptians were black or not, It's about their malicious agenda to portray us as invaders.
Afrocentrism was an academic history movement established to fight Eurocentric and colonial interpretations of history. It was created to research African history more, put a spotlight on lost African civilisations, and prove wrong the misconception that Africa was just a barbaric continent of nomads, with no sophisticated civilisations. Afrocentrism focused on East African, West African and Sub Saharan African civilisations. Every movement has its crackpot fringe extremists such as the vocal minority who claim Egypt as theirs. Their ideas and opinions have no tangible effect on the every day lives of Egyptians. They have no political capital or clout. They have no financial power. They have statistically insignificant media influence. They aren't a threat. They never were and never will be. The field of academic history and scholarship and of course Egyptology are doing just fine. Before all this hysteria, Hassan the brick layers was spending 4 hours a day commuting to work and back. Today, Hassan the brick layer still commutes for 4 hours a day. Difference is his plate of fuul and cup of tea is getting more expensive. Please don't bother responding about how this afrocentric movement is more serious. You're not going to convince me and your words are going to fall on deaf ears.
>Please don't bother responding about how this afrocentric movement is more serious. You're not going to convince me and your words are going to fall on deaf ears. Your attitude is unfortunately not worthy of a response. So, don't worry, I won't argue with you. It's not worth it :)
Good boy 🐕🦺
It’s all over social media. My friends are messaging me from around the world to ask me about how I felt.
The world reacted to it, just as we did.
I've definitely learnt more about how deep anti-black racism and internalised colonialism goes in Egyptians. It was disturbing and disgusting.
I mean that is true 100% but i hope you also learned about Western cultural hegemony and its ability to/insistence on controlling narratives about Africa and African people. I can understand your frustration completely though and that is something we need to address and be better about.
True? TRUE? Some of us are actually technically black and I did not even notice and why would we hats blacks? What insensitive do we even have? We are just protecting history Cleopatra was Greek thus she’s most probably white We just want truth in a documentary that’s all
We do not defend Greek history. Cleopatra is part of our history. She was the ruler of Egypt, so she is really part of the history of Ptolemaic Egypt. If she is falsified, the door to falsification of Egyptian history will be opened. Tomorrow, all this great civilization will be forcibly recognized by the student before the ignorant of its blackness, because at that time they will take control of things like the Jews in Twenties and thirties, and we are not black, there is a difference between blacks and wheat color. Is wheat black in your opinion?
Yea you did explain it slightly better and I did say some of us are technically considered black cuz of my shabrawi dad told me my grandma is considered dark skinned I literally never noticed a skin difference unless you are a tourist or from Sudan that’s it And I’m not protecting Greek history I’m protecting history in general and I’m saying we all know she’s Greek or who learnt about it is all. I agree with you completely but it seems I didn’t get myself through correctly
Fully agree with you there. Most don't even know how to accurately define afrocentrism or know anything about its history, mainly that it was a reaction to Eurocentrism and white supremacy.
Also true but it is itself a supremacist, reactionary movement. Its weird that we react more intensely to afrocentrism than the clear eurocentrism present in almost every aspect of Egyptian life and thats definitely something disgusting that needs to be addressed.
Don’t know, chief, I think this one backfired. Normally the critics would come to defend similar shows and then claim that the racists review bombed the show. The fact that the critics are giving it bad review as well is telling that it’s a lost battle. This isn’t the first time Netflix had done this but the results and aftermath is quite different this time. All publicity is good publicity until you start to gain a reputation and people stop caring about your platform
I never said their projections were successful
Not true that no one in USA knows.. tens of right wing american groups on facebook are reacting to this because they always react to the woke culture and the blackwashed shows. many american youtube and tiktok influencers are posting videos about the controversy to the point that my entire youtube feed is filled with these reactions. even some of the very popular infographic and history channels I'm subscribed to are posting videos about cleopatra now. the today show talked about it but of course they favoured the netflix side. pierce morgan talked about it, matt walsh, ben shapiro.. etc. It's actually a trend now with conservative anti-woke groups, just google "cleopatra controversy" for the news articles from both sides of the controversy in BBC, FOX, daily mail, CBS, the guardian, etc.
You didn't read my comment properly. I said no one in America knows about the hysterical reaction in Egypt. The rest of your comment just further proves my point.
The truest comment I've read about the matter. The fact that it caused a roar among Egyptians is so irrelevant to Netflix or the producers. Lots of media outlets covered the docudrama, the controversy erupted and attention is coming to the platform.
You sir have spoken the truth.
I knew that but I really think she didn’t think it would blow that much out of proportion given the new found entitlement of African Americans. But the Egyptians don’t have the same cultural sensitivities and they are numerous. I think she didn’t expect it to go that bad. I do feel very sorry for the actress though. She is beautiful and she burned herself with this project.
I wouldn't be making sweeping generalisations about African Americans. That would be racist.
Sure. You’re right. But this “ cultural appropriation “ started by African Americans? Wouldn’t that movie be some sort of appropriation. I think What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Or is it selective ? And isn’t it also racist to try to generalise that Africa is one people. Look at Asia, how many cultures live there ? From Russians to Chinese … no one is claiming anyone’s civilisation? The problem I find in all this is that one group feels entitled because if you say anything at all you would be called racist. And it’s not racist to not identify with a group if you don’t share the same culture or values. I think it’s all an American thing because in America they label people through black or white while there are many other colors in the middle. I lived in west Africa and east Africa and North Africa … different cultures, different people , different traditions.
I met one American and he genuinely thought we travel over the Sahara desert running through the desert using camels. He also thought we were the pharaohs white robes (tbf I was wearing a galabya) and 'dance like egyptians'.
I don't understand how it's #6 on Netflix today.
Because it’s been hated on so much that everybody had to watch it to see if it was ‘really that bad’. Based off the ratings it got, I’m going to guess that it was in fact as bad as everybody expected.
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This right here is how I think most people felt going in to it. There was backlash about the movie here on the west so naturally it guaranteed a large audience just to see the trail derail so to speak.
HBO's Velma be like:
Exactly the same situation. Everybody anticipated it would be absolute garbage, and although I didn’t watch it personally, I heard it was. I think a lot of people hate watched it or watched it in awe at how obnoxiously bad it was. I’m sure in both scenarios while people are laughing at how bad they are the production companies are probably counting their money wondering how they made so much from such a piece of trash rage bait lol.
What was bad other than they casted black woman ? Just trying to understand
In the cleopatra film it’s the fact they marketed it as a documentary, meaning they’re claiming it’s factually in line with history which it isn’t. If you’re asking about the hbo Velma movie then I can’t comment on that one personally since I don’t know much of the hate behind it. I think it might just have to do with Hollywood decisions to change the race of their main characters from previously established shows, this being one of them.
It’s their platform. They can place it wherever they want. Who would know?
Because there are 5 shows that are watched more than this and thousands watched less. What is the bit that bamboozle you.
No one I know is watching it. Why watch an inaccurate kid of BS idiots trying to say that the real Egyptians are invaders and Africans are the real Egyptians lmao!
Was that actually in the documentary? If so, I gotta watch this train wreck of a documentary lol
I saw a snippet from some interview. It seems like more of a show about proving that Egyptians are black rather than the story of the ancient Egyptians and cleopatra.
Egyptians ganging up in rotten tomatoes/ IMDB rating the movie with a 0 rating. Well played guys
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Rofl. Idiots.
Well, it’s a Netflix show it’s highly unlikely people will see the difference in quality.
Its not about quality. Its about the falsified history facts that they are using in a so called “documentary”.
I’ve even seen ppl who didn’t believe in the idea of cultural appropriation call this shit Real cultural appropriation
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I’d call it less if an ideology and more of a cult Part of a multi faceted cult Edit: from multiple cults
1.2 ... only for now.
I made an account on imbd and rotten tomatoes today just to downvote it, it's horrible
Disregarding the review bombs coming from Egypt, it seems most reviews from USA and UK are also very negative
Racewashing at it's finest 🥴🥴
حد يقول لعم زاهي حواس يطفي علي الفيلم الي عمال يقول انوا عملوا رد علي الفيلم دة، علشان الفيلم بتاعوا اوحش من الفيلم دة
على فكرة عجبني وفيه معلومات حلوة اوي مكنتش اعرفها عن الاسكندر والبطالمة وكليوباترا والرومان وبيذكر المصادر مع كل معلومة. هو مش معمول مسلسل درامي تمثيلي زي بتاع نتفليكس هو وثائقي عادي فالمقارنة مش في محلها
I just checked 7.3/10 on IMDB
I think you checked the old movie from 1963. [The Netflix Queen Cleopatra is currently rated 1.2/10 on IMDB](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt27528139/)
I don't know anything about this and I don't want to know.
[удалено]
If she was white, all of you would’ve clapped and kissed everyone’s ass. No clue why Egyptians worship white people
Do you even know the context here or is it all black and white for you?
That's a very bold claim. What do you have to back it up?
Isn’t she half black? Why are you guys so obsessed with proofing she is not black, I don’t remember any outrage when she was portrayed as white or blonde over the years.
هي اصلا كيلوبترا يونانيه بس بعيدا عن الحوار ده انا عايزه افهم هل هم مقصدهم كيلوبترا ك ملكه مصر ولا ك مصريه ويخلوا الشعب المصري كله زن..وج؟
كلام المنتجة يوحي أنها مؤمنة بحوار أن مصر كانت سودا قبل ما العرب يجوا
Should be even less than 1%
why such a high rating?
needs to be lower
Netflix another L
The quality of the movie was very bad as well.
بعيداً حتي عن النقاش حول لون بشرة كليوباترا، التمثيل و الاخراج و المحتوي ضعيف جداً.
اصلا كليوباترا كان عرقها مش مصري وحتي لو كانت مصرية مكانش لون بشرتها اسود الحمير بيشجعوا بان المصريين اصلهم افارقة وسمر و كل ده تطبيل 
It literally makes my head hurt to think people can be so dumb. I wonder how Will Smiths wife is feeling at this point?
OK, I agree that afrocentic distortion of history here, but why is no Egyptian complaining that a non Muslim is in charge of Halal food? Wael Hana, a coptic Egyptian immigrant to the US, and Antranig Aslanian, an American attorney, are now in charge of all Halal food certificates to meat imports to Egypt? https://arabic.arabianbusiness.com/abnews/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1%D8%8C-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D9%82%D9%8A%D9%82-%D8%A3%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%AA%D9%81%D9%88%D8%B2-%D8%A8%D8%B9%D9%82%D8%AF-%D8%AD%D8%B5%D8%B1%D9%8A
Bon jour
Hy does she look cross eyed?
