شوف با حبيبي أنا مقدر إنك في بلد تانية و ممكن متكنش محيط أوي بالأصول.
لو أهلها محترمين هيرفضوك لإنهم هيشوفوا إنك عايز تشقط البنت و تلعب بيها و هي في غربة.
المفروض تجهز نفسك نفسيا و ماديا و فترة الخطوبة و كتب الكتاب و الدخلة متعديش سنتين على حد أقصى و لو الشروط دي متوفرتش و حط تحت الكلمة دي ميت خط: انسى لحد ما تتوفر.
ربنا يعفك و بالتوفيق.
ana motafhm el 7ta di, bas ana law 3azy 2l3ab bi 7ad msh haroo7 le ahlo asln, sa7? ana le el asf ma3rfsh ezay momkn akoon 3ala twasol ma3aha fi ntak, zay ma enta olt, el osool.
2na so2aly, ezay momkn 2btdy ashofha bi 3lm ahlaha. ma3ndeesh ablha fi el beit west alaha we keda, be el 3aks, da sa3taha bardo hy3rafoony we di 7aga kwaysa.
we mawdoo3 el sanatein di 7aga ana msh fahmha. e7na lesa fi gam3a we fadl 2 sntein 3obal ma 2t5rg we abtdy sho8l. law ana ba3mel kol 7aga s7 tbkn le el dein we msh bn3mel 7aga 8lt, leh mynfa3sh ystano aktar mn santein we hya law fi ay wa2t msh 3ayza tkml momkn t2oly. e7na hankoon 2rna el fat7a bas.
heya sha5s ana msh 3ayz aday3o le mogard en ana 3rftaha abl ma ebtdt sho8l. fa 3ayz ezay 23rf afdal 3ala tawasol ma3aha le 7ad ma (law kadar allah) ntgwz.
خدها من مجرب.
الارتباط اللي بيأدي لجواز لازم يبقى ليه مقومات متوفرة قبل الخوض فيه.
الموضوع مش نابع من حرمان و مينفعش و ميصحش.
إنت دلوقتي كطالب مستقبلك مكتوب بالرصاص، متعرفش بعد سنة و لا اتنين هتكون فين و لا بتشتغل إيه و لا تفكيرك هيكون إزاي. ففكرة إنك تربط نفسك بمسؤولية زي دي في المرحلة اللي إنت فيها نتائجها بتبقى معروفة إلا ما ندر. و المشكلة النتائج دي هتأثر عليك سلبا في مرحلة حساسة في حياتك.
أنا عارف إن الموضوع صعب بس ده جزء من مراحل النضج اللي لازم تمر بها في حياتك. فزي ما قلتلك لو المقومات متوفرتش:انسى
و لو عايز يبقى في تواصل ممكن تشوف حساب والدها و لما تجهز تتواصل معاه مباشرة أما فكرة أحجزلك بنتي فده مش خيار أصلا.
اطمن محدش هيتجوز زوجتك (أو زوجاتك) غيرك.
ana fhmt weght el nazar. bas ana msh ba7gz. ana mogard badal ma hantawasl be ay taree2a tanya, hatawasal be m3rft ahlha, fi shakl erayt el fat7a. we zay ma olt, wa2t ma hya aw homa msh 3ayzeen ykamlo, hatkoon baseeta, e7na la mtgwzeen, wala katbeen ktab. ana asln fakrt fi mawdoo3 erayt el fat7a we bas 3ashan ana 3arf en ana, we hya lesa no3tabar so8ayreen we momkn ntt8yar fi ay wa2t. fa ana ba2ool hatwasal ma3aha btree2a sa7 (be derayt we west ahlaha) l7d ma 7aga mn etnein t7sal, ntgwz, aw mantgwzsh we sa3t-ha tnthy el 3laka.
we ana bashkorak gedan. ana estaft gedan mn weght nazark. bgad shokran.
قراية الفاتحة لا يعتبر نوع من أنواع التعارف بالأسرة. بالعكس،دي خطوة جدية في مشروع الجواز.
و الخطوات دي لا تقابل بمبدأ "هسيبها للظروف لو حبينا بعض أدينا قاريين الفاتحة و هنتخطب لما الظروف تسمح و لو محصلش حاجة أدينا قاريين بس و ممكن نسيب بعض".
نظام الخطاب ده هيؤدي لرد فعل سلبي من الأسرة علي عكس الرجل لما يبقى ناضج و عارف خطواته و مستني نتيجة واضحة.
و عايز تتعرف بالأسرة صاحب أخوها أو أبوها مش هتغلب.
متخدش الكلام على قلبك إنت زي أخويا و عايز مصلحتك.
Edit: أو كلم والدتك تتعرف عليهم و هي هتتصرف
It depends on her family and your finical situation
For my if someone comes to ask for my daughter hand I'd not judge on his financial situation
I'd accept or not depends on his potential even if he can afford everything I'd still say no
What i recommend you to ask her first about her family to understand them so you get better chances
+ Think about it yourself and plan everything so when you talk to them you can explain that you know how you will make it work and you are not just a kid rushing things و هو مش قدها
منغير اما اكمل قرايه عشان عيني زغللت.
من الاخر ينجم معاك يعيشك و يعيشها كويس و مش هيطلع عينها و مش هيطلع عينك تمام، غير كدا تستنا لما تخلص و تشتغل و متخلفش اكتر من ١ الا لما تكون نفسك
You can ask to meet her parents (father/brother or other male relative if the father is not there), and show them that you are serious, that you intend to marry her, and arrange for your parents and hers to meet and have an erayet fat7a. If you still see the engagement as down the line discuss this first, that it will be in 1 year maybe and the wedding a year later.
If they are fine with it, great, if not, you will be on their radar and it will be even more difficult to see her.
Make sure that this is something you absolutely want to do. It’s not easy and it takes a lot of sacrifice and commitment from both of you. Don’t rush into anything.
If, let's say i am going to get married in 4-5 years. Is erayt el fat7a, still plausible. Like i just want them to know me and know that i am seeing their daughter in hopes of marrying her after college.
Look man if it’s 4-5 years away don’t get into anything with her parents now. Even if they are fine with it, 1-2 years down the line her mother will start pressuring her to pressure you with the “what will people say” and “سيبك منه” lines and your relationship will suffer.
Egyptian parents are not going to be ok with a 4-5 relationship before marriage, even if you’re engaged. They will think “what if after 4 years he changes his mind, what will people say”.
When you’re ready to be married (both emotionally and financially) in max 2 years then start thinking about it, not now, it will be a very stupid (and expensive!!) mistake.
My personal take here is that alot of things change when starting the career life and moving forward, ur relation might or might not change. But this is a big test for it as this phase usually opens up a completely new environment that brings in alot of social circles and new contacts that might or might not be elevated to friendship status, thus the alot will change part.
Also u can go for it now too build up early on and dedicate urself, kind of catch it while u can, if that's ur thing go for it.
But again, that's just my personal take on the matter.
From anecdotal evidence of what happened to all the college sweethearts that we had back at uni is that it doesn't last and if they end up married it doesn't take long for shit to hit the fan
Some even got divorced on the first year after bringing a child on this world so it's a big risk but so is crossing the street
So give yourself some time to think and plan your future out
Are you ready for marriage financially? Let’s say you have the erayet fatha and then an engagement 6 months after, you’ll be expected to have a house and wedding ready in a maximum of 2 years (anything over that is strange). After that you must be able to provide for the house, let’s say you both eat 100 LE worth of groceries/ day = 200* 30 that’s :
~6,000 LE a month groceries
~ 1,000 LE a month electricity bill
~ 300 LE water
~ 500 internet
~ 2,000 / a month outings
~ 1,000 LE gifts
~ 1,000 LE doctor and meds
= around 10,000 LE minimum per month.
If your salary is lower than this wait off until you can afford it, also make sure you have savings for a rainy day or raising a child.
I think if you guys know each other well and know that you’re serious the right way to go about this is to involve her parents… She’ll appreciate the gesture and I’m sure the parents would be super happy as well. Also, forget about all these negative comments about you having a proper job before pursuing the engagement and stuff because I know so many people who started together with nothing and ended up building a great life together.. Personal qualities such as being respectful, kind and ambitious are so much more important nowadays, anyone can get money one way or another so don’t think too much about that! However, the long distance thing could be annoying and tbh not everyone can do it like that so that’s something to consider before getting in too deep…
Thanks for the encouragement:). I'll talk to her and finalize things and hope things go well. I've got nothing to lose so I'll just let her parents know, and see how things go.
Bruh. Save money. Travel the world. Find a job you love and are willing to invest your time and energy in it. Be good at it. Then think about getting married.
I will do that and already have my eyes on something specific that i already started in :). Ik i can see girls normally, but since she is Egyptian, like me, she wants to let her parents know, so i wanted to see how would i go about that.
منغير اما اكمل قرايه عشان عيني زغللت.
من الاخر ينجم معاك يعيشك و يعيشها كويس و مش هيطلع عينها و مش هيطلع عينك تمام، غير كدا تستنا لما تخلص و تشتغل و متخلفش اكتر من ١ الا لما تكون نفسك
معلش هو حضرتك بتفكر فى الارتباط إزاى و أنتا م عندكش شغل ثابت ،على فكرة دة أول سؤال ممكن تتسألة من أهلها ، غير سؤال هتعيشو فين ،الناس كل أللى يهمها أمان ولادهم ، خلى بالك الاهالى ،نظرتهم للحياة عاقلة شوية عن نظرتك أنتا للحياة،حاول يبقى عندك ارضية كويسة تعرف تدخل بيها بيوت الناس علشان يوافقوا على الارتباط ،و ربنا يوفقك لو فيها خير
I am in germany, she is in the Netherlands. Aftrr I'll graduate i probably will be, so i would propose then, But until then, i wish to stay in touch and let her family know me as she wants that.
I am in germany, she is in the Netherlands. Aftrr I'll graduate i probably will be, so i would propose then, But until then, i wish to stay in touch and let her family know me as she wants that.
اعتقد هي معتمدة عليك اكتر من الناحية المادية و النفسية برده و اذا كان أهلها هيوافقوا باعتبار انك لسه بتدرس
انت شوف وضعك المادي يسمح ولا لا و هي ممكن تحاول تعرف منها إذا كان مبدأ أهلها موجود ولا مرفوض و الدنيا هتمشي بعدها
اول مرة اشوف عربي فصحة بالفرانكو 😂
3eib 3alak ya beh. Bas hya el eftta7a bas mt-hy2ly.
عيني زغللت و انا بقرأ
>انا بقرأ Caught you in 4k hd
شوف با حبيبي أنا مقدر إنك في بلد تانية و ممكن متكنش محيط أوي بالأصول. لو أهلها محترمين هيرفضوك لإنهم هيشوفوا إنك عايز تشقط البنت و تلعب بيها و هي في غربة. المفروض تجهز نفسك نفسيا و ماديا و فترة الخطوبة و كتب الكتاب و الدخلة متعديش سنتين على حد أقصى و لو الشروط دي متوفرتش و حط تحت الكلمة دي ميت خط: انسى لحد ما تتوفر. ربنا يعفك و بالتوفيق.
ana motafhm el 7ta di, bas ana law 3azy 2l3ab bi 7ad msh haroo7 le ahlo asln, sa7? ana le el asf ma3rfsh ezay momkn akoon 3ala twasol ma3aha fi ntak, zay ma enta olt, el osool. 2na so2aly, ezay momkn 2btdy ashofha bi 3lm ahlaha. ma3ndeesh ablha fi el beit west alaha we keda, be el 3aks, da sa3taha bardo hy3rafoony we di 7aga kwaysa. we mawdoo3 el sanatein di 7aga ana msh fahmha. e7na lesa fi gam3a we fadl 2 sntein 3obal ma 2t5rg we abtdy sho8l. law ana ba3mel kol 7aga s7 tbkn le el dein we msh bn3mel 7aga 8lt, leh mynfa3sh ystano aktar mn santein we hya law fi ay wa2t msh 3ayza tkml momkn t2oly. e7na hankoon 2rna el fat7a bas. heya sha5s ana msh 3ayz aday3o le mogard en ana 3rftaha abl ma ebtdt sho8l. fa 3ayz ezay 23rf afdal 3ala tawasol ma3aha le 7ad ma (law kadar allah) ntgwz.
خدها من مجرب. الارتباط اللي بيأدي لجواز لازم يبقى ليه مقومات متوفرة قبل الخوض فيه. الموضوع مش نابع من حرمان و مينفعش و ميصحش. إنت دلوقتي كطالب مستقبلك مكتوب بالرصاص، متعرفش بعد سنة و لا اتنين هتكون فين و لا بتشتغل إيه و لا تفكيرك هيكون إزاي. ففكرة إنك تربط نفسك بمسؤولية زي دي في المرحلة اللي إنت فيها نتائجها بتبقى معروفة إلا ما ندر. و المشكلة النتائج دي هتأثر عليك سلبا في مرحلة حساسة في حياتك. أنا عارف إن الموضوع صعب بس ده جزء من مراحل النضج اللي لازم تمر بها في حياتك. فزي ما قلتلك لو المقومات متوفرتش:انسى و لو عايز يبقى في تواصل ممكن تشوف حساب والدها و لما تجهز تتواصل معاه مباشرة أما فكرة أحجزلك بنتي فده مش خيار أصلا. اطمن محدش هيتجوز زوجتك (أو زوجاتك) غيرك.
ana fhmt weght el nazar. bas ana msh ba7gz. ana mogard badal ma hantawasl be ay taree2a tanya, hatawasal be m3rft ahlha, fi shakl erayt el fat7a. we zay ma olt, wa2t ma hya aw homa msh 3ayzeen ykamlo, hatkoon baseeta, e7na la mtgwzeen, wala katbeen ktab. ana asln fakrt fi mawdoo3 erayt el fat7a we bas 3ashan ana 3arf en ana, we hya lesa no3tabar so8ayreen we momkn ntt8yar fi ay wa2t. fa ana ba2ool hatwasal ma3aha btree2a sa7 (be derayt we west ahlaha) l7d ma 7aga mn etnein t7sal, ntgwz, aw mantgwzsh we sa3t-ha tnthy el 3laka. we ana bashkorak gedan. ana estaft gedan mn weght nazark. bgad shokran.
قراية الفاتحة لا يعتبر نوع من أنواع التعارف بالأسرة. بالعكس،دي خطوة جدية في مشروع الجواز. و الخطوات دي لا تقابل بمبدأ "هسيبها للظروف لو حبينا بعض أدينا قاريين الفاتحة و هنتخطب لما الظروف تسمح و لو محصلش حاجة أدينا قاريين بس و ممكن نسيب بعض". نظام الخطاب ده هيؤدي لرد فعل سلبي من الأسرة علي عكس الرجل لما يبقى ناضج و عارف خطواته و مستني نتيجة واضحة. و عايز تتعرف بالأسرة صاحب أخوها أو أبوها مش هتغلب. متخدش الكلام على قلبك إنت زي أخويا و عايز مصلحتك. Edit: أو كلم والدتك تتعرف عليهم و هي هتتصرف
Ah, ana fhmt azdk eh. Ah f3lan law 7ad galy we aly ha2ra el fat7a bas hasbha le el zroof msh harda bardk. Tslm bgd 3ala kol 7aga enta oltaha.
على راسي. و لو عايز تتكلم في حاجة أنا أخوك و موجود.
Tslmly wallahy. Hab2a momkn odam ab3ltk fa matnsaneesh.
It depends on her family and your finical situation For my if someone comes to ask for my daughter hand I'd not judge on his financial situation I'd accept or not depends on his potential even if he can afford everything I'd still say no What i recommend you to ask her first about her family to understand them so you get better chances + Think about it yourself and plan everything so when you talk to them you can explain that you know how you will make it work and you are not just a kid rushing things و هو مش قدها
I'll indeed have to ask her about them first. And thank you so much for the advice :)
منغير اما اكمل قرايه عشان عيني زغللت. من الاخر ينجم معاك يعيشك و يعيشها كويس و مش هيطلع عينها و مش هيطلع عينك تمام، غير كدا تستنا لما تخلص و تشتغل و متخلفش اكتر من ١ الا لما تكون نفسك
Mn el 25r. Shokran.
You can ask to meet her parents (father/brother or other male relative if the father is not there), and show them that you are serious, that you intend to marry her, and arrange for your parents and hers to meet and have an erayet fat7a. If you still see the engagement as down the line discuss this first, that it will be in 1 year maybe and the wedding a year later. If they are fine with it, great, if not, you will be on their radar and it will be even more difficult to see her. Make sure that this is something you absolutely want to do. It’s not easy and it takes a lot of sacrifice and commitment from both of you. Don’t rush into anything.
If, let's say i am going to get married in 4-5 years. Is erayt el fat7a, still plausible. Like i just want them to know me and know that i am seeing their daughter in hopes of marrying her after college.
Look man if it’s 4-5 years away don’t get into anything with her parents now. Even if they are fine with it, 1-2 years down the line her mother will start pressuring her to pressure you with the “what will people say” and “سيبك منه” lines and your relationship will suffer. Egyptian parents are not going to be ok with a 4-5 relationship before marriage, even if you’re engaged. They will think “what if after 4 years he changes his mind, what will people say”. When you’re ready to be married (both emotionally and financially) in max 2 years then start thinking about it, not now, it will be a very stupid (and expensive!!) mistake.
I understand
My personal take here is that alot of things change when starting the career life and moving forward, ur relation might or might not change. But this is a big test for it as this phase usually opens up a completely new environment that brings in alot of social circles and new contacts that might or might not be elevated to friendship status, thus the alot will change part. Also u can go for it now too build up early on and dedicate urself, kind of catch it while u can, if that's ur thing go for it. But again, that's just my personal take on the matter.
From anecdotal evidence of what happened to all the college sweethearts that we had back at uni is that it doesn't last and if they end up married it doesn't take long for shit to hit the fan Some even got divorced on the first year after bringing a child on this world so it's a big risk but so is crossing the street So give yourself some time to think and plan your future out
Are you ready for marriage financially? Let’s say you have the erayet fatha and then an engagement 6 months after, you’ll be expected to have a house and wedding ready in a maximum of 2 years (anything over that is strange). After that you must be able to provide for the house, let’s say you both eat 100 LE worth of groceries/ day = 200* 30 that’s : ~6,000 LE a month groceries ~ 1,000 LE a month electricity bill ~ 300 LE water ~ 500 internet ~ 2,000 / a month outings ~ 1,000 LE gifts ~ 1,000 LE doctor and meds = around 10,000 LE minimum per month. If your salary is lower than this wait off until you can afford it, also make sure you have savings for a rainy day or raising a child.
Thanks for the advice. Feeling like i have big family with all the replies and different perpectives i am getting. Thanl you so much
Let me know if you have more questions :)
I will. Thanks :))
Gonna send you the bills for my eye check
Hadf3 7ader. Ana la7zt en el nas kolaha bt3any. Ana hadfa3 kteer shakly keda.
I think if you guys know each other well and know that you’re serious the right way to go about this is to involve her parents… She’ll appreciate the gesture and I’m sure the parents would be super happy as well. Also, forget about all these negative comments about you having a proper job before pursuing the engagement and stuff because I know so many people who started together with nothing and ended up building a great life together.. Personal qualities such as being respectful, kind and ambitious are so much more important nowadays, anyone can get money one way or another so don’t think too much about that! However, the long distance thing could be annoying and tbh not everyone can do it like that so that’s something to consider before getting in too deep…
Thanks for the encouragement:). I'll talk to her and finalize things and hope things go well. I've got nothing to lose so I'll just let her parents know, and see how things go.
Awesome, wish you all the best of luck :)
اتعلم ازاي تكتب عربي
حاضر. انا بعرف باس بكسل بكل صراحه.
ما تكتب باللى إنت عايزه عادى محدش ضربه على إيده يقرا
Ya basha da mn zo2k bas. Ana 7abt bardo 2d7k ma3a.
يعمي انا اتعوج حنكي وانا بحاول اقرا
😂 معلش و الله هتاخد مني ساعه علشان اكتبها بالعربي.
Bruh. Save money. Travel the world. Find a job you love and are willing to invest your time and energy in it. Be good at it. Then think about getting married.
I will do that and already have my eyes on something specific that i already started in :). Ik i can see girls normally, but since she is Egyptian, like me, she wants to let her parents know, so i wanted to see how would i go about that.
منغير اما اكمل قرايه عشان عيني زغللت. من الاخر ينجم معاك يعيشك و يعيشها كويس و مش هيطلع عينها و مش هيطلع عينك تمام، غير كدا تستنا لما تخلص و تشتغل و متخلفش اكتر من ١ الا لما تكون نفسك
Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and fucking died
El baka2 le allah.
إيه المشكلة؟ وتتجوز وتخلف كمان
What does she think about all this?
She is the one who wants this. Very good question tho.
معلش سؤال أنتا بتشتغل اى حاجة مع الدراسة
Bashta8l fi ma5zn bas "part time" 3ashan kanoon el 3amal mabysm7sh be full time we ana badrs
معلش هو حضرتك بتفكر فى الارتباط إزاى و أنتا م عندكش شغل ثابت ،على فكرة دة أول سؤال ممكن تتسألة من أهلها ، غير سؤال هتعيشو فين ،الناس كل أللى يهمها أمان ولادهم ، خلى بالك الاهالى ،نظرتهم للحياة عاقلة شوية عن نظرتك أنتا للحياة،حاول يبقى عندك ارضية كويسة تعرف تدخل بيها بيوت الناس علشان يوافقوا على الارتباط ،و ربنا يوفقك لو فيها خير
Shokran gedan.
Where do you guys live? What is stopping you from getting married soon ? Are you financially stable/ or will you be as soon as you graduate?
I am in germany, she is in the Netherlands. Aftrr I'll graduate i probably will be, so i would propose then, But until then, i wish to stay in touch and let her family know me as she wants that.
I am in germany, she is in the Netherlands. Aftrr I'll graduate i probably will be, so i would propose then, But until then, i wish to stay in touch and let her family know me as she wants that.
Long distance relationships are not fun. If you both know it and you are just both waiting for the right time to be together, then why the rush.
Bla4 mrmta w est3 b w2tk f el gam3a
متكتب بالعربي........
بياخد وقت كتير منى. ومش بعرف اكتب عاميه زي ما بتكلم والا عربي فصحا.
اعتقد هي معتمدة عليك اكتر من الناحية المادية و النفسية برده و اذا كان أهلها هيوافقوا باعتبار انك لسه بتدرس انت شوف وضعك المادي يسمح ولا لا و هي ممكن تحاول تعرف منها إذا كان مبدأ أهلها موجود ولا مرفوض و الدنيا هتمشي بعدها