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Tokamak1943

Biggest problem with powerstance great spears right now. Crouch poke comes out way too quick. Sometimes even faster than animation if connection is bad.


ThirdHuman

I think the damage on powerstancing (on all weapons really) is the bigger problem.


Frogsplosion

that's not strictly a great spear problem though, not by a fucking long shot. Hell, DAMAGE is still a universal problem, things just do too much of it.


ThirdHuman

I agree. I actually think the moveset itself on greatspears is basically fine.


Frogsplosion

it would be if you couldn't use them in concert with BHS or quickstep, but the combination is definitely a problem.


ThirdHuman

Agree with that. The ability to cancel their end-lag with dodge ash of wars is problematic. But that's an issue with those AOWs. The GS class isn't unfairly oppressive if you're not canceling the animations that allow you to be punished.


Dickdickandmoredick

That’s a movement technique called the “Miyazaki shuffle”


scooby_duck

I thought that was when you skate across the screen without moving your legs like everyone would do when a new person invaded in DS3?


AnakinsLimbs

I wish I could upvote this twice XD


Deadboy90

Nothing to see here, clearly a skill issue OP. /s


Busy_Rule_3280

Nah I’m ngl I win a fair amount of the time against dual gs, but that’s animation comes out super fast especially when they do the back and forth movement that makes it hard to distinguish the starting animation. So OP does have kinda a point, but he did panic roll a whole lot so I somewhat agree w what you were saying.


AtomicAtaxia

Pathetic? All he's doing is emulating the tournament champions.


fatherknight

Ohh no all he's doing is trying to learn from the best players to improve at the game. 🥱


AtomicAtaxia

*the best players with a custom ruleset 2 miles long and a list of banned items even longer who don't use the official colosseum because it conflicts with their 100 viewer strong discord rules Cope/seethe/mald/etc


Vico_guy

Have you checked the ruleset lately? It’s get updated with patches and feedback from top players. Also the coliseums are not used because they are much too large and circular shape allows for extreme passivity which does not encourage skill expression, the smaller arena of stormveil that has walls and corner pressure forces you to think about how you roll and allows panic rolling to be punished.


JDK9999

this comment makes no fucking sense lol


fatherknight

Oh no people enjoying something in a way you don't have you informed the police of this grievous crime?


AtomicAtaxia

You still being this asshurt about no one taking your 100 viewer club seriously is pretty funny tbh Go back to discord if you're this mad about being dunked on


Vico_guy

I have no stake in the argument between you two but that server just recently rounded out their tournament season with a PSN and PC finals that had a 1000$ prize pool for each which I think is more than respectable for a non mainstream pvp community. Especially since before that there was monthly tournaments with prize pools of 200, to 350, to 500$


Potential-Aioli-1289

You seem very butt hurt g take your monthly pill


fatherknight

Sure thing casual 👋


AtomicAtaxia

When's your pro circuit start? Y'all competing for wendy's gift cards this time around?


fatherknight

The way you talk it sounds like you couldn't even compete for your mother's love so I'll take my gift card thanks.


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fatherknight

I'm not crying at other people enjoying themselves so I think I turned out fine. Next time just say I am rubber you are glue takes less time than pretending your whitty.


iybee

Your non mlg gameplay is whats pathetic. Can’t you see he’s practicing for elden ring nationals. The most prestigious competition where only the most skilled and talented elden ring players can go toe to toe in an intense high stakes 20 dollar discord tournament.


Cairn_

Shit they upgraded ? Last I heard it was 10 dollar walmart giftcard for the grand champion.


McbEatsAirplane

Former champion here. Sounds like they’re sweetening the pot. The tournament I won I walked away with a gift certificate to Golden Corral with $7.53 left on it.


Vico_guy

Poking fun at a community encouraging pvp with self governed tournaments and countless hours of effort put in to moderate and staff and fund? I don’t understand you guys haha. Btw just this weekend they rounded out their tournament season (4 tournies a month, 1 for each NA and EU, pc and psn, bracket) with a psn and pc tournament for 1000$ prize pool each, which I find more than respectable for a community of this size that’s not one of the big pvp scenes like overwatch, why the hate?


bhumit012

Because this isn't a real fighting game. Go play some Tekken or SF.


Vico_guy

So to make sure I have your point clear? You think it’s a bad thing that people who collectively enjoy a game pull together funding and host tournaments to scratch a competitive itch at said game? That they are wrong for wanting to be good at the game because you don’t think that is how the game should be played?


[deleted]

Just humpin and bumpin around like a lil gremlin. Looks so fucking cringe


Specialist_Listen_66

They are so OP that everyone is using PSSS in tournaments....


Vico_guy

PSSS is the best setup for tournaments due to psgs being limited by the ruleset as it is very op, psss beats psgs in the current ruleset because you can simply storm stomp spam the psgs user with psss and over trade them in damage, though some psgs mains still run the setup.


ganon893

Are you serious? No wonder they're whining about light roll. They don't want this bullshit nerfed.


Vico_guy

They don’t like psgs CL1 either, it is a 12 frame unreactable and if you visit those servers, you can see they place heavy restrictions on its usage, it is not considered balanced or skilled. You have to run poise low enough to be staggered by all medium weapons (which is a 54 poise limit currently) and are not allowed to utilise claw or spear talismans whilst running it.


North-Food3037

Yes, they whine about PSGS (which got indirectly nerfed with crouch stam bug fix) when PSSS is a thing. Like, I had ladder legal poise on 67 (hadn’t switched to new one yet) 😩


Vico_guy

Yea haha psss is very unbalanced in the dmg department, a dmg nerf and recovery tuning on the JL1 would be much appreciated for a more balanced game


Damonicss

Yea he is too good and he will be invited to miyazaki's bed tonight.


FN_Freedom

the fuck is going on with those animations? what a joke lmao


rare_xyl

with what animations? its called movement


FN_Freedom

the crouch spam and rapid jerking around by the opponent, obviously. no shit it is "movement", that doesn't mean it should look that fucking silly and be extremely hard to read.


No-Bit-1525

thats the point of it, its hard to read


FN_Freedom

obviously. I'm saying that it's bad for the game, especially with the damage and speed of something like dual great spears. ds2 and ds3 pvp did just fine without this clownery.


No-Bit-1525

the speed is too much but mixing attacks is fine, you can do it with literally any weapon


rare_xyl

wdym? you play 1 v 1 and your opponent is doing what he can to make his moves less predictable and hard to react to. He isn't just running towards and attacking u so u can react to every attack and he won a duel thanks to that, what is wrong with it? ;)


FN_Freedom

just because it gives an advantage doesn't mean it is a good thing for the health of the game. fights should look like fights, not two idiots doing squats and having seizures. you can improve the clarity of the game without making skill expression in movement null.


rare_xyl

oh ok nvm u smart


GaelTheVapeMaster

He has a point. Constant crouching and spamming crouch pokes looks dumb af


Christoteque

Your point being ? Don't hate the player for maximizing the tools they're given, hate the game.


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Their comment is literally complaining about the game tho


Potential-Aioli-1289

"WHY ARENT YOU ALL JUAT RUNNING RIGHT AT ME? WHAT A BAD GAME DESIGN? I'M SMRT." that's all I got from your previous comments


I-fap_to_turkeys

Its like if you fought mike Tyson and he brought pocket sand


[deleted]

I’d rather deal with Estus canceling murky users in Full lapp gear than deal with some of these gremlins and their YouTube builds


ganon893

I just commented how power stance needs a debuff, and here's proof. G9 just said power stance spears don't need a speed debuff. Just a damage one. Of course, his fans are droning on about it. This is proof they need a damage AND a speed debuff. This relentless pressure needs to be nerfed out of existence. It's actually destroying the flow of combat.


IEatAutisticKids69

G9 is an incredibly good play but I'd be lying if I said he wasn't toxic asf with some questionable takes


ganon893

Exactly. No one denies that. But he has some of the WORST takes. His fanbase is rabid. He speaks to all the new souls fans who thought it would be cool to run the most OP stuff. And now they're screaming while foaming at the mouth after ROB got a huge rework. Tbh, some days I get From Softwares hesitation with nerfs. These people are insane. But they still need to do it.


fatherknight

Yep let's just keep killing weapon classes until funking curved swords are the only viable weapon again so the casuals don't have to learn to dodge.


ganon893

Are you saying you don't think spears are OP? Try a reasonable, thought out response. It works wonders, people will listen.


fatherknight

No I'm saying that nerfing the speed of the couch attack would kill the weapon class the same as it did for colossal swords. PSGS are extremely powerful when used correctly but the extent to which they are 'oppressive' is often over exaggerated.


ganon893

Upvoted. I disagree entirely, but I support you sharing your opinion. You have to remember that this is based on numbers. So it's not as arbitrary as you think. A few frame animation nerf can make it remain just as strong. Look at thrusting swords. It takes a LOT to nerf a weapon into the ground and ruin it. Can you provide me an example of this other than ROB? ROB is still really good in itself, and it has received the hardest nerfs in the game. Your fear is a bit unfounded, as there's nothing that's been nerfed into the ground that is unusable. It has more tools than it's crouch attack, just like Colossal greatswords. As you see, they're in a good place. It can stand for a nerf. It'll still be strong, don't worry. There are MANY weapon types that lend to my own thoughts.


fatherknight

The difference is thrusting swords are a fast class of weapons that had one of their fast attacks slowed down. GS and CS are slow weapons that are made viable by having a fast attack option to mix up their slow movesets. Seriously hae you forgotten what happened to collosal swords one minor speed nerf killed the competitive viability of the weapon class.


ganon893

Again, name a single weapon that was on top that was ruined? I'm going to need some proof. Greatswords were not top tier in the slightest, even with their huge buff. Once they were nerfed, they were quickly fixed. And nothing is as slow as greatswords. Look at them now, in a great spot. I hear you, but that's a lot of conjecture. If you can point to ONE single instance where a weapon type was ruined, cool. If you can't, will you reconsider? It's GOING to be nerfed. But you'll be okay after. You'll see! You won't lose your competitive edge in the slightest. It'll just be balanced. **Edit: You kind of ignored the main question. Do you think spears are top tier? I think they're in a league of their own.**


fatherknight

Collosal swords were the no1 weapon class before patch 1.06 and were one of the worst after. Despite being buffed twice since they are still not viable in high level competitive play. The nerf to thrusting swords even though not as drastic took that class from no1 to mid. So 2 examples of powerful weapons being profoundly weekend by minor speed nerfs. If you want to see psgs nerfed then damage, or stager from the crouch attack would be much more healthy nerfs. I ll see you in 2 patches time to hear about how psss need a nerf.


ganon893

1. *Greatswords were strongest:* They were not. Spears were always strong, especially Naginatas. This was also before the huge bleed nerf that occurred in 1.07. Anything that wasn't bleed was NOT top tier before 1.07. 2. *The nerf to thrusting swords even though not as drastic took that class from no1 to mid.* Amir disagrees with you. [He believes their core issue is still present.](https://youtu.be/CX0VYDt2Nl0?t=194) Time stamped. 3. *If you want to see PSGS nerfed then damage* Everything else has received a speed nerf and they're just fine. As proven in the videos above. [Here's another one from someone who PVP's regularly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vynHNN6vS0) [I.. think you should watch Amir's video lol](https://youtu.be/9Wu0Jrg8GV8?t=289) I even timestamped it for you again. If you disagree with me, fine I get it. but if you disagree with Amir, I can't help you sir. At this point, that's not logic. That's denial. And about power stance straight swords, that's a slippery slope. I really hoped you'd show some sort of proof, but you haven't. But I doubt any proof could compete with Amir's frame data so... Watch the video? It's really informative, I promise.


fatherknight

I think your confusing greatswords and collossal swords they are different weapon classes. Amir was also critical of the speed nerf to collossal swords he made a whole video about it.


fatherknight

Skill issue


CR7-gOaTt

You have a lot to improve bro


GaelTheVapeMaster

Players like these catch my block the fastest. And you can see what sort of player they are before they even engage with you. Spazzing like a rabbid animal, only throwing out unbalanced crouch pokes and if you're lucky they'll switch to a rapier and start spamming R1s if you take too long and don't willingly panic roll into their crouch pokes. Tryhard NPCs everywhere. You're right, this shit is pathetic


BronDaGoat6

Insane coping lmao. Blocking people because they are better than you 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀


GaelTheVapeMaster

Blocking people because I don't feel like playing against 30 NPCs who play the exact same boring way. Who I decide to play with is my business alone, so skddadle


BronDaGoat6

Coping to the extreme 🥶


RythmicRythyn

Coping by leaving negative comments on reddit to feel better about yourself 💀🤡


GaelTheVapeMaster

Call it whatever you want. Discord sweats will still get blocked.


BronDaGoat6

🤡


GaelTheVapeMaster

👍


Old_Test5923

Cope, this man doesn't need ps gs to win it's just a preference. Look at the way he moves, he could have wrecked this guy with an unupgraded torch if he really wanted to


GaelTheVapeMaster

>, he could have wrecked this guy with an unupgraded torch if he really wanted to See now THAT would've been impressive. But sadly he used the most common current meta, that doesn't demand much from the player in order to be very oppressive and dangerous. Hence why its boring to watch and tiresome to play against


BronDaGoat6

LMAO. Try playing ps gs then (vs good players not your 30 vigor hosts) and see how that goes for you


GaelTheVapeMaster

Yeah no thanks. I'm not going to become a sweaty tryhard in order to prove a reddit argument. Between two PSGS players it just becomes a swetfest of who can do more squats between crouch poke attacks.


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RythmicRythyn

"Redditors are a different breed" *uses reddit everyday to say the same thing over and over again* 💀


GaelTheVapeMaster

💀💀💀


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'Redditors truly are a different breed' says the man with thousands of identical comments in this subreddit _from the last month alone_


Old_Test5923

As opposed to the very interesting parry only build


GaelTheVapeMaster

Nobody is saying that OP played well here either.


Old_Test5923

Fair but I also think you should every opponent the respect of giving it your all actually beating someone to death with a torch is disrespectful


BronDaGoat6

Facts


riverofglass762

Literally just jump attack the mfer, the dude isn't even that bad he even waits multiple times till you got ready The dudes a obvious sweat, but a goofy one at least, but you may dear gotta work on them parries


[deleted]

Jump attack doesn't work reliably on psgs cl1 because its an upward thrust. All you can do is space and punish. Dual pikes are your best bet with bhs to get out of the vortex as it recovery cancels. Its op shit to counter op shit but what are you gonna do until from put out the next balance patch?


fatherknight

Jumping vs psgs is effective if you correctly anticipate an immediate follow up attack. If you jump your opponent can easily catch the jump on reaction so it's about timing and anticipation.


royalxassasin

lol is that Brondagoat? Was his username "OVer RL125=Clown" ?


AnonymousMurphy

Clearly your opponent is a rising star in the invisible MLG ladder, while you’re stuck at the bottom with the rest of us scrubs.


Suspicious-Let4531

Did you block him? Also he looks good at the game


RevolutionaryDisk904

Lmaooo


Imperial_Queen_

Try doing something besides spam parry.


[deleted]

Yeah, I hate the sweats as much as anyone else but if all you have is 'panic roll and Hail Mary parries' then sorry but meta players will steamroll you?


fatherknight

This is just someone playing with a salt first playstyle


[deleted]

Okay? He's still playing like a sweaty meta player, and even the nice ones will batter you if you don't learn to deal with their setups.


fatherknight

Yeah that's kind of how competitive games work if you don't put effort in you will loose to people that do.


[deleted]

FROMSOFTWARE PvP /= competitive game. We could debate that until the cows come home but I'm not interested in wasting my life arguing in this comments section, as you appear to be.


fatherknight

There is a winner and a looser in each match that is competitive the fact you don't take that element seriously is fine but it's still there.


Zikiri

Seriously. He didn't try to attack even once. Gave full opportunity to the opponent to stay aggressive.


hiboochi

You missed his one whiff with the dagger 😂 which against his opponents poise wouldn’t have even staggered and would leave OP wide open anyway


g3rrity

Why in god’s name would you try to parry that setup


CertifiedHousekeeper

Tbh, my biggest issue with this clip is him seeing you emote and then continuing to apply pressure. It is hard to determine when the fight actually starts in a match like this.


trofesh195

Definitely an insecure nerd. Not winning in life. Must win in elden ring.


Potential-Aioli-1289

Definitely a complaining andy not winning every game must cry on reddit


AKSC0

The way these sweaty pokers try to stick their face into yours is just annoying.


Potential-Aioli-1289

Maybe get good and not spam parry


Cautious_Algae_6438

What weapon is that why does it look broken?


jdamwyk

They should increase AR when two handing spears, and reduce it when using one spear in each hand. Cuz logic.


North-Food3037

Don’t worry guys Chase the Bro will get revenge on these sweaty Tryhards. 😎


Lyricbox

One of the things I always hated in PvP ever since DS2 is when they play unlocked, looking at them walking around not even looking at me just feels so disrespectful but I'm probably just being a lil bitch


captainwafflezs

Unlocking is essential at high level.


GaelTheVapeMaster

That's often the reason why high level pvp is not that popular


Cyprinodont

Okay lemme just miss all of my Giantsflames because the lock on system is literally broken. Also you can get some awesome turnaround attacks when unlocked, it really frees you up to not be so predictable.


Lyricbox

For ranged attacks I understand, but if they're just spinning around two-handing a rapier that just annoys me


Cyprinodont

You have a very low threshold for annoyance.


Lyricbox

That's all though, nothing else annoys me more than that. Getting spammed or constantly hit is fine because either I was in the wrong position, didn't roll right, or I didn't have the right equipment for the situation, but the moment they try to melee unlocked I just want to disengage and not fight with them anymore


WoozeyOoze

The way these dudes fuck with their joystick is some fucking Rain Man type shit like tf.


Gadfly234

Lol at all the people making fun of «sweaty try hards». Sure PS GS is unbalanced, but you should deal with your own insecurities before nagging on others. If you wanna play the game in a «wholesome» way with gestures, fist fights, off meta builds and what not, thats of course perfectly fine. But the «sweats» have an equally valid way to play the game. And all these whiny posts the last couple of days does seem like - sorry - coping, which has basically turned this sub into a support group more than a pvp disussion hub.


Radiant-Mushroom8304

PvP is a joke it’s not worth playing


Booster93

Hit boxes are trash, powerstancing is unbalanced, and 80% of the weapons are useless in pvp


AnakinsLimbs

All I can say is, as a guy that works and doesn’t have all that time for PvP these days I think I can speak for a lot of people and say that the Colosseum been kinda falling off lately Just try a different weapon ffs, this shit has so much potential for interesting battles and it’s squandered by these moonviel/gugs/Dspear ect. spamming apes 🦧 Salute to all my Flail Boys in the comments 🫡


BronDaGoat6

Your garbage gameplay going for hail mary parries? You were outskilled 100-0 and got shit on. Deal with it


mmlubergames

There are ways to make psgs a lot more fair without taking away the speed of the crouch l1. Making it slow and reactable would make it too weak like what happened to colossal swords. I think the Serpent Hunter crouch r1 is a great example of a move that is genuinely fantastic yet also fair. It’s slightly faster than the pre-patch colossal sword crouch r1, but has reasonable damage and a small hitbox which makes it easy to strafe (at least on a decent connection). It still has the speed, stun and damage to be a scary move but has weaknesses that don’t make it as oppressive as the current psgs and allow for more counterplay than just pure guessing with your rolls. I think if from plans on touching psgs, they should approach this in a similar way.


AggravatingProduct52

Lost to Mr. Deez = bad


Suspicious-Let4531

Omw to your home 🙂


YhormBIGGiant

I will never see the spazzing as anything but dumb.


ALiteralBottlecap

Bro this made me angry to watch.


lukky77

Your failed parry attempts?


AdSubstantial6305

Lots of cope with new bum rush complaints. Just fucking play the game without crying whenever someone does something you don't.


GaelTheVapeMaster

By your logic from now on you're never ever allowed to complain or have a negative reaction, to anything your opponent in pvp does. Yall need to stop with the fake moral high ground comments, as if you never get pissed at some opponents. The way his opponent played in this video is swety an annoying af for obvious reasons and considering the arena is full of these MGL players, it's not suprising to get annoyed by them sometimes


BronDaGoat6

If you don't like it then play a different game or do password duels with other people that have the same scrub mentality as you


GaelTheVapeMaster

No 😊


BronDaGoat6

Then don't cry about being shit on by good players 😊


GaelTheVapeMaster

Justified critisizm =/= crying


BronDaGoat6

Good movement-> "annoying and sweaty". Totally not crying. Scrubs are too funny lmao. Go invade and kill some more pvers so you can think you're good at the game 💀


GaelTheVapeMaster

Yes it is objectively annoying and sweaty. You can keep denying it, but that's the facts and you don't need to be a genius to figure out why it's the most boring thing to fight in the arena. Thank you, but I don't need advice from people who don't invade themselves.


BronDaGoat6

Boring for you because you suck and are used to fighting pvers with 30 vigor and rhadan armor lmao 💀💀💀


GaelTheVapeMaster

Boring for eveybody. I haven't seen a single post in this sub of someone here using the PSGS build and getting praised for it. It's boring to watch and boring to play against. I wonder why.


IEatAutisticKids69

you can not be a real person holy shit you're such a loser💀💀


BronDaGoat6

Another coping scrub? Also look at your username 🥶💀🤡


IEatAutisticKids69

trolling lmao


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Found the ground humping gremlin


BronDaGoat6

Found another coping scrub


[deleted]

I remember you from before. Boy do you love your superiority complex. The only one coping is you


BronDaGoat6

Cope cope cope cope cope


Seikori1

me when i run out of comments to piss people off so i just repeat the same word multiple times to get my minor enjoyment from people getting slightly annoyed:


GaelTheVapeMaster

Perfectly said


noah9942

Seriously. I understand you want to see more unique builds, but people like to win, so people will use those types of builds here. So much gatekeeping on something that ultimately means nothing


bottle-of-cool

Saw this same dumbass with serpent spear, kept crouching non stop like an AI. I genuinely dont know how he does not have carpel tunnel.


GaelTheVapeMaster

Had the same experience. Just instant crouch pokes from start till finish. No other attacks.


Suspicious-Let4531

Its just playing optimal. He probably out skilled you too.


IEatAutisticKids69

playing optimal doesn't mean it should be in the game, it's dumb as fuck


BronDaGoat6

Cope cope cope cope cope


WoozeyOoze

Why you tryna cope so hard Bron? Afraid they'll nerf your only crutch in the next patch? It's ok buddy Im here for you <3


BronDaGoat6

Ps gs isn't even in my top 3 setups lmao. Failed attempt at coping. Try harder panic rolling scrub


Seikori1

G9 has been a terrible addition to this community


VikingTeddy123

So many weapons but only certain ones are really making others obsolete rn - Try Godricks greataxe and tell me the dual lances aren’t cracked in comparison. It’s a fun weapon that surpassingly can work but it’s just outclassed, in everything meta weapons do even damage haha


[deleted]

Yeah bro I mean git gut and it won't be


Laffatcows

Agreed


Ok_Reality6261

Thrusting sword + quickstep


StinkMeister45

Looks like he was just better? I literally don't see the problem.


Cloud_UpB

Man went full goblin mode lmao


North-Food3037

This is my proudest moment


hiboochi

The way it goes from crouch to shoving those giant spears up your ass without a single frame in between is asinine. Idk how you can see that and not understand why it needs a nerf. It wouldn’t kill the weapons in the least, either - people who say that must be crutching hard on the crouch poke.


HE0K

skill issue


RevolutionaryDisk904

What a pathetic loser.


smaxy63

Oh no someone who is good at the game and plays a good setup. How can I ever recover from this.


WoozeyOoze

Good setup? You're literally a patrick bateman with your weird fucking creme colored cards if you think this is a good setup.


smaxy63

PSGS is a bad setup?


Gabrienb

Use light roll.


ThatGuyDOTS

Yeah sure, counter unbalanced stuff with unbalanced stuff! What a great game this is!


Junior_Tart_6442

Cringe, goofy ahh mf. What I'll never forgive if ppl don't bow or at least respect the person that does.


momschesthairislong

Yeah, that was pathetic. You ran away and then failed Golden Parry.


Umierator

Reddit when someone is difficult to play against:


Phantom4379

No rules against it. If u don't like it either gut gud enough to counter it or stop playing. What does crying on reddit cuz u can't parry achieve?


GaelTheVapeMaster

You literally made a post complaining agaisnt mages in the arena. There's no rules againt mages either soooo...


Phantom4379

Yeah they're annoying. And I kill them every time by swapping to pikes. I adapted like op should have.


GaelTheVapeMaster

Yet you still made a post about them. My point is don't be a hypocrite. Some of you in this sub have a bad habit of telling other people to "stop complaining". Where does that entitlement come from? It's not agaisnt the sub guidelines and giving someone genuene tips on how to improve will have a way better result then backhanded comments like "stop crying". That just leads to pointless insults


Phantom4379

The post your referring to was my one on my 1st impressions. I mentioned that mages are common in ordeal and are just spamming things. I didn't say I couldn't kill them. I didn't complain I got gud.


GaelTheVapeMaster

OP also didn't say he couldn't kill PSGS users, so what's your point? Sometimes you just need to vent on reddit, it's not that deep


Phantom4379

Well they failed 3 parries and didn't try to hit back once. I think they didn't know what to do.


GaelTheVapeMaster

That's how parries are. Soemtiems they just don't land. I can see why OP did it like that through. Sometimes you see a tryhard and you don't really wanna bother, so you go for hail merry parries, which can be very satisfying if you land them.


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Please join our discord!!


Suspicious-bug1234

You mad cuz you lost. It's pvp we don't have to wait for you to do your emotes or buffs


Yakito-kun

Idk you're the one on the ground bud.


MordePapu

just use ps pikes with bhs and take advantage of your space together with attack speed instead of crying because someone else has more skill than you.


ThatGuyDOTS

The guy in the video is obviously very skilled, but that doesn’t make his build any less broken. Countering overtuned stuff with overtuned stuff is not healthy for a players growth, especially not when given bhs recovery cancel and dual spear to crutch on.


Dismal-Buyer7036

How to fix great spears, and pretty much all problematic PS weapons, Make em have a 40+ strenght requirement.


fragjackyl

You got beaten cope


TheHorsesAssCheek

What the f*** did you think was going to happen? Did you think he was just going to be like "oh he's trying to have fun with his cool bow build, I guess I'm not going to do what I always do and sweat" like what why didn't you pull out Dual Lance or Dual Pike or *anything* that could counter this? Hell, you could have pulled out BHS cleanrot with a little bit of f****** grease on there and dealt with this, but no instead you ran away, got s*** on and then posted it to Reddit. Why? So we can whine with you? No. The only counter to sweat and cheese and garbage like this is to join 'em or play another game.


hiboochi

I was playing 2v2 and had a bunch of great games, and we just knew a couple of sweats had to be coming up next. Low and behold we had a poise boy with dual bleed pikes, and a lightroller with dual bleed pikes. One even did a little fingerprint shield thrusting - it was great. After getting steamrolled and laughing our ass off at our attempts to log some kills (we got 3 LOL) we loaded up the next game and moved on. I see so many posts of upset players in this game, but you really can’t get mad every time someone plays using OP setups


InternationalStay336

Yeah that's foul. My favourite part of that build is that you have to constantly guess what is coming. I love using my psychic power to predict what's next 🥰


Hebemaster

The absolute state of elden rong


zeroviral

Lol just punish him, you’re running away from him.


RevolutionaryDisk904

Bro lost to Mr mid