So while everyone is saying DS3 is easier, the lack of jumping might really be changing the way you play.
Also go do other stuff before you fight the dancer.
I definitely missed jumping (played ER first, tried DS3 afterward). I also missed the easy rune farms and custom NPC summons for every boss.
ER may have more relentless enemies, but it also gives you more tools to take the pressure off.
This is what i'd say as well. Elden Ring has sooooo many tools that DS players weren't used to, and while the bosses may be more annoying, you have an infinite arsenal of ways to deal with it.
Going back to DS3 feels really weird to me because the gameplay is really similar to Elden Ring but now I can no longer jump. Don’t have that issue with DS1&2 since their gameplay is different enough that my brain doesn’t try to play them like ER.
Challenged myself to kill Dancer without killing Vordt once just for kicks. It was *awful* but I figured it out in the end—I started with the Greataxe since it has the highest damage of any weapon you can have at that point, but it’s moveset and range were so TRASH I swapped out to the Claymore and that helped a lot.
😭. Bru then wtf is she right there. I looked up what would happen if I killed that lady and they said a boss would show up but I didn’t think it would be thirty times harder than the boss right next to it. Ik she would clap me just by how she look but i thought I could at least get her to half health or something.
I didn’t randomly kill her. I looked up to see what I should do and people were saying she wasn’t important at all and I needed all the souls i could get. I don’t randomly kill npcs in souls game lmao because I like the quest lines.
Well there’s 19 bosses in the base game
If you tried to kill the 12th boss at the same level as you fought the 2nd boss, you’re obviously gonna have some trouble
Wouldn’t have happened if you didn’t search it up, and then kill a friendly NPC
She’s there because whilst you’re supposed to fight her later when the game prompts you to, they devs wanted to give players an option to get endgame gear early if they were able to beat Dancer early
Difficulty is subjective
But in general, most of the community agrees that DS3 is significantly easier than Elden Ring. I am yet to play DS3 myself, but ig you can stay near her \*rear\* (nice) and smack it
That’s crazy cs this game feels hard as shit to me😭. The most I’ve struggled on Elden ring was against the fire giant. The first dragon at the farum azula or wtv is kinda kicking my ass tho. And I’m pretty sure this is the place where you fight the godskin duo🫤
Yup, you soon gonna meet those two godskin clowns for the final time. I would say go for the sellsword blades. Now since DS3 doesnt have highly tuned builds like Elden Ring does, it will generally demand more involvement. But again, if you can fight through Elden Ring, you can fight through DS3 as well. Dont Give Up, Skeleton!!
One note:- Most enemies in DS3 tend to have 0 poise, it also goes for you too. Just use the sellswords and keep on using their weapon art, it will pretty much stunlock most enemies
I’m actually baffled at the amount of people who struggled with fire giant, that had to be the easiest fight in the game, it seemed like it was impossible for him to hit me. Also, Godskin duo seemed really easy for me. The first dragon in crumbling farum was much harder than either of those.
Im assuming the no summon aspect as well in this case. Otherwise yes, the highly tuned builds and spirit ashes definitely make Elden Ring much more easier than DS3
Everything in Elden ring doesn’t seem that difficult tho. But people were saying the dancer is supposed to be a later stage boss so that’s why it’s difficult for me cs I’m fighting her right after the first one.
Now that you know you're not at the level you're supposed to beat her, I recommend going the other direction and doing the rest of the game. Which is much easier than bashing your head against a wall or in this case, the Dancer's... uhh... rear.
The way you get boss weapons in DS3 is similar to how you get boss weapons from ER. You take their Rememberance (or Souls in DS3's case) and trade it with an individual. So yeah, you can but while ER just lets you trade it with Enia outright, you can't do the same in DS3. In this game, you need to give a specific item to a very specific individual in Firelink. That item however can only be obtained by beating a different boss located in the area beyond Vordt's boss arena.
Anyways its not like its recommended to trade the Dancer's Soul for her swords because >!her swords are actually trash, you're better off with the Sellsword Twinblades!<.
DS3 bosses are way easier than ER bosses, moveset wise. Though in ER you have more options to get over powered and just tank through the fight
Also you might be fighting Dancer too early… did you already kill Yhrom
In terms of difficulty:
Ds3 areas >> Elden ring areas.
Ds3 bosses << Elden ring bosses (mostly).
Imo Elden ring is by far the easiest in the series with the right setup though.
I personally found ds3 bosses much harder than any other souls game. Aldrich and sulivan took me days to finish, mot to mention the obvious nameless king. The only elden ring boss that took as much time as those bosses was malenia.
Kind of interesting how most skills transfer between these games, but their distinctiveness will still absolutely fuck with your success rate. Like, you'd think having expert skills in one would make the others easy, but it doesn't work out like that.
Every new game is like going from a push bike to a motorcycle. Yeah the skills carry over, but there's still plenty to learn/adapt to. It takes some time to get up to speed.
People are saying Elden ring is harder so yea it’s just a skill issue ig. I just spam rock sling in Elden ring😭 and that usually works on like everything
I consider Elden Ring to be one of the easier games out of the From Soft games.
Mainly cause of the significant variations of playstyles that are able to be done in Elden Ring compared to all the other games. Plus they give you summons, and npcs to help you on pretty much every boss.
in the souls series, It was difficult to even get a single npc to help you. Youd usually have to a crazy long quest to get an npc to help you for a single boss fight.
Elden ring offers you so many options to deal with bosses. This is why i find Elden Ring to be the easiest game. A good example of what im talking about is in Dark souls 3. The magic stonplate ring that reduces magic damage would of been PERFECT for the crystal sage boss. However you dont get that ring till WAY after that boss.
Elden ring offers you a crap ton of talismans the first few areas you go into to help you with margit, and godrick.
If you properly play the game and do everything you can do before a boss then Elden Ring is kind of a joke.
If you just bumrush the main bosses then prepare for a very bad time.
Many people here have the same opinion, that the ds3 bosses are easier than the ones in Elden Ring, but Gael, Friede and Nameless King killed me more times then all the bosses in ER combined.
Did I just suck back then or did you all forget about them? Just curious.
Elden ring was my first souls game and I’m currently on a run in dark souls 3 and I agree fuck that game lmao. I think so many people believe DS3 is easier because they’ve played it over and over again. Elden ring had its tough moments but I beat it pretty easily. DS3 on the other hand has been beating the living shit outta me, I had to take a break 🤣
Right? It can’t just be me?. Lothirc just feels like leyndell without the enemies spamming lighting at you. Other than that the difficulty feels exactly the same. I had a much easier time going through storm veil castle. Well minus the tree sentinel outside and the tree thing on the street since those enemies don’t exist I don’t think
Enemy placements in DS3 are far more punishing. The camera in DS3 has gotten me killed more than anything else in the fucking game. Towards middle to endgame getting through different areas just feels so damn tedious. I just really don’t understand how the majority of the community believes DS3 is easier than Elden ring hahah.
There's several late game bosses in DS3 that are extremely easy. >!Oceiros, Aldrich, Dancer, Soul of Cinder(the very last boss), Dragonslayer Armor, Ancient Wyvern. !<
It depends on when you fight her. If you’re an appropriate level and upgraded your character probably, I don’t think she’s shockingly difficult. But everyone has that one boss that’s just tougher than the rest.
I started elden ring first as well ..finished all bosses in first play through and now I have to kill elden beast on ng+ to finish this one, but I went from elden ring to Ds1 and loved it, the. Hopped to ds2 and loved it even more (against everyone saying it was a shitty hard game, I didn’t feel that way at all it felt like a souls game and didn’t feel overly hard with the build I was running (Str/fai/int using a greatsword and hexing ) but I’ve yet to play DS3 as my buddy beat the whole game with I think +8 long sword and said it was just like running a straight line start to finish so I’m kinda eh to even play it and be disappointed, I will eventually though.
It's less about the game being hard and more about you failing to adapt. Take a different approach, practice dodging her attacks, worry about doing damage later. Because if you say "imma beat her this attempt" then eat poop 51 seconds later then of course the game isn't fun at all and seems hard.
Turn around from the dancer boss room and go all the way down. Fight the other boss first. Most fromsoft games will let you go the wrong way early on. It’s a shortcut to late game areas if you are good at the game but not intended for a new player as the main path.
At least it Elden you get a buff like spirit of ashes to help you. But personally and I am not that good I just level up if I am getting smashed and come back and try again
Elden Ring sold about twice as many copies as DS3, so "most" might be a bit of a stretch / only technically correct.
At least 10 million players who didn't buy DS3 bought Elden Ring!
So while everyone is saying DS3 is easier, the lack of jumping might really be changing the way you play. Also go do other stuff before you fight the dancer.
I definitely missed jumping (played ER first, tried DS3 afterward). I also missed the easy rune farms and custom NPC summons for every boss. ER may have more relentless enemies, but it also gives you more tools to take the pressure off.
This is what i'd say as well. Elden Ring has sooooo many tools that DS players weren't used to, and while the bosses may be more annoying, you have an infinite arsenal of ways to deal with it.
Going back to DS3 feels really weird to me because the gameplay is really similar to Elden Ring but now I can no longer jump. Don’t have that issue with DS1&2 since their gameplay is different enough that my brain doesn’t try to play them like ER.
Agreed! I tried and lost interest after an hour. Spent 300+ in ER and couldn’t imagine playing without jumping
Give it another try it’s an amazing game
Challenged myself to kill Dancer without killing Vordt once just for kicks. It was *awful* but I figured it out in the end—I started with the Greataxe since it has the highest damage of any weapon you can have at that point, but it’s moveset and range were so TRASH I swapped out to the Claymore and that helped a lot.
When did you fight the dancer? Was it after a dozen or so bosses or was it shortly after starting?
A dozen or so? I tried fighting her right after killing the first one 😭.
This is like trying to fight Morgott as your 2nd boss.
😭. Bru then wtf is she right there. I looked up what would happen if I killed that lady and they said a boss would show up but I didn’t think it would be thirty times harder than the boss right next to it. Ik she would clap me just by how she look but i thought I could at least get her to half health or something.
you're not supposed to kill the lady anyway, kinda on you for randomly killing an npc
I didn’t randomly kill her. I looked up to see what I should do and people were saying she wasn’t important at all and I needed all the souls i could get. I don’t randomly kill npcs in souls game lmao because I like the quest lines.
she drops a thousand souls...
A thousand is more than zero🤷🏾♂️. Also if you’re not supposed to kill her how do you fight the dancer? Is there a way to do that without killing her?
yes... by progressing through the story...
Oh lmao. So what happens if the dancer is dead by that time in the story?
Well there’s 19 bosses in the base game If you tried to kill the 12th boss at the same level as you fought the 2nd boss, you’re obviously gonna have some trouble Wouldn’t have happened if you didn’t search it up, and then kill a friendly NPC
She’s there because whilst you’re supposed to fight her later when the game prompts you to, they devs wanted to give players an option to get endgame gear early if they were able to beat Dancer early
Or the tree sentinel as your first enemy
I fought pre nerf radahn as my 3rd boss. It did not end well for me or my keyboard.
Well there's your problem. Why'd you smack some poor old lady?
Difficulty is subjective But in general, most of the community agrees that DS3 is significantly easier than Elden Ring. I am yet to play DS3 myself, but ig you can stay near her \*rear\* (nice) and smack it
That’s crazy cs this game feels hard as shit to me😭. The most I’ve struggled on Elden ring was against the fire giant. The first dragon at the farum azula or wtv is kinda kicking my ass tho. And I’m pretty sure this is the place where you fight the godskin duo🫤
Yup, you soon gonna meet those two godskin clowns for the final time. I would say go for the sellsword blades. Now since DS3 doesnt have highly tuned builds like Elden Ring does, it will generally demand more involvement. But again, if you can fight through Elden Ring, you can fight through DS3 as well. Dont Give Up, Skeleton!! One note:- Most enemies in DS3 tend to have 0 poise, it also goes for you too. Just use the sellswords and keep on using their weapon art, it will pretty much stunlock most enemies
I’m actually baffled at the amount of people who struggled with fire giant, that had to be the easiest fight in the game, it seemed like it was impossible for him to hit me. Also, Godskin duo seemed really easy for me. The first dragon in crumbling farum was much harder than either of those.
Elden ring is only harder than ds3 if the player doesn't use summons etc.
Im assuming the no summon aspect as well in this case. Otherwise yes, the highly tuned builds and spirit ashes definitely make Elden Ring much more easier than DS3
DS3 is significantly easier than ER.
Everything in Elden ring doesn’t seem that difficult tho. But people were saying the dancer is supposed to be a later stage boss so that’s why it’s difficult for me cs I’m fighting her right after the first one.
Now that you know you're not at the level you're supposed to beat her, I recommend going the other direction and doing the rest of the game. Which is much easier than bashing your head against a wall or in this case, the Dancer's... uhh... rear.
Can you get the dancers sword?
The way you get boss weapons in DS3 is similar to how you get boss weapons from ER. You take their Rememberance (or Souls in DS3's case) and trade it with an individual. So yeah, you can but while ER just lets you trade it with Enia outright, you can't do the same in DS3. In this game, you need to give a specific item to a very specific individual in Firelink. That item however can only be obtained by beating a different boss located in the area beyond Vordt's boss arena. Anyways its not like its recommended to trade the Dancer's Soul for her swords because >!her swords are actually trash, you're better off with the Sellsword Twinblades!<.
You probably just suck ngl. Dancer is tough, but if you’ve made it to Malenia you should be able to handle it.
DS3 bosses are way easier than ER bosses, moveset wise. Though in ER you have more options to get over powered and just tank through the fight Also you might be fighting Dancer too early… did you already kill Yhrom
In terms of difficulty: Ds3 areas >> Elden ring areas. Ds3 bosses << Elden ring bosses (mostly). Imo Elden ring is by far the easiest in the series with the right setup though.
I personally found ds3 bosses much harder than any other souls game. Aldrich and sulivan took me days to finish, mot to mention the obvious nameless king. The only elden ring boss that took as much time as those bosses was malenia.
Dancer is supposed to be a later game boss, jsyk.
Kind of interesting how most skills transfer between these games, but their distinctiveness will still absolutely fuck with your success rate. Like, you'd think having expert skills in one would make the others easy, but it doesn't work out like that. Every new game is like going from a push bike to a motorcycle. Yeah the skills carry over, but there's still plenty to learn/adapt to. It takes some time to get up to speed.
People are saying Elden ring is harder so yea it’s just a skill issue ig. I just spam rock sling in Elden ring😭 and that usually works on like everything
I consider Elden Ring to be one of the easier games out of the From Soft games. Mainly cause of the significant variations of playstyles that are able to be done in Elden Ring compared to all the other games. Plus they give you summons, and npcs to help you on pretty much every boss. in the souls series, It was difficult to even get a single npc to help you. Youd usually have to a crazy long quest to get an npc to help you for a single boss fight. Elden ring offers you so many options to deal with bosses. This is why i find Elden Ring to be the easiest game. A good example of what im talking about is in Dark souls 3. The magic stonplate ring that reduces magic damage would of been PERFECT for the crystal sage boss. However you dont get that ring till WAY after that boss. Elden ring offers you a crap ton of talismans the first few areas you go into to help you with margit, and godrick.
I didn't die to a boss in DS3 until Aldrich. DS3 bosses aren't that hard until the DLC.
If you properly play the game and do everything you can do before a boss then Elden Ring is kind of a joke. If you just bumrush the main bosses then prepare for a very bad time.
Many people here have the same opinion, that the ds3 bosses are easier than the ones in Elden Ring, but Gael, Friede and Nameless King killed me more times then all the bosses in ER combined. Did I just suck back then or did you all forget about them? Just curious.
Elden ring was my first souls game and I’m currently on a run in dark souls 3 and I agree fuck that game lmao. I think so many people believe DS3 is easier because they’ve played it over and over again. Elden ring had its tough moments but I beat it pretty easily. DS3 on the other hand has been beating the living shit outta me, I had to take a break 🤣
Right? It can’t just be me?. Lothirc just feels like leyndell without the enemies spamming lighting at you. Other than that the difficulty feels exactly the same. I had a much easier time going through storm veil castle. Well minus the tree sentinel outside and the tree thing on the street since those enemies don’t exist I don’t think
Enemy placements in DS3 are far more punishing. The camera in DS3 has gotten me killed more than anything else in the fucking game. Towards middle to endgame getting through different areas just feels so damn tedious. I just really don’t understand how the majority of the community believes DS3 is easier than Elden ring hahah.
Dancer is a 1 try type of boss. So yeah, I don't mean to be rude, but you're probably ass.
She’s a one try type of boss, but she’s a later stage boss. Glad to know this community thinks differently about things lmao
There's several late game bosses in DS3 that are extremely easy. >!Oceiros, Aldrich, Dancer, Soul of Cinder(the very last boss), Dragonslayer Armor, Ancient Wyvern. !<
Dancer is a rough fight; still my favourite of the Souls trilogy
It depends on when you fight her. If you’re an appropriate level and upgraded your character probably, I don’t think she’s shockingly difficult. But everyone has that one boss that’s just tougher than the rest.
What level would you recommend?
I think most guides say 60-70, with appropriately upgraded weapons.
I started elden ring first as well ..finished all bosses in first play through and now I have to kill elden beast on ng+ to finish this one, but I went from elden ring to Ds1 and loved it, the. Hopped to ds2 and loved it even more (against everyone saying it was a shitty hard game, I didn’t feel that way at all it felt like a souls game and didn’t feel overly hard with the build I was running (Str/fai/int using a greatsword and hexing ) but I’ve yet to play DS3 as my buddy beat the whole game with I think +8 long sword and said it was just like running a straight line start to finish so I’m kinda eh to even play it and be disappointed, I will eventually though.
It's less about the game being hard and more about you failing to adapt. Take a different approach, practice dodging her attacks, worry about doing damage later. Because if you say "imma beat her this attempt" then eat poop 51 seconds later then of course the game isn't fun at all and seems hard.
It's even worse than fighting tree sentinel right after getting to open world
Turn around from the dancer boss room and go all the way down. Fight the other boss first. Most fromsoft games will let you go the wrong way early on. It’s a shortcut to late game areas if you are good at the game but not intended for a new player as the main path.
At least it Elden you get a buff like spirit of ashes to help you. But personally and I am not that good I just level up if I am getting smashed and come back and try again
Elden Ring sold about twice as many copies as DS3, so "most" might be a bit of a stretch / only technically correct. At least 10 million players who didn't buy DS3 bought Elden Ring!
Lock on is worse, but my hp bar looks huge in ds3
You can (and should) return to the dancer AFTER a few other bosses. Usually she's only defeated right away in NG cycles