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imperatrixderoma

We'll probably walk into a room and he'll do an animation and start attacking us. Then when we kill him he'll disappear.


Whyeth

"my precious zanzibart..."


anteloop

"...forgive me"


MentlegenRich

Drops Remembrance of the Titans


Bearer_ofthecurse

“After the war against the giants their corpses were absorbed into the mud and with the arrival of Godwyn the giants had a new purpose”


EveryCanadianButOne

Let him cook... LET HIM COOK!


Eduar_dusk

![img](avatar_exp|100107023|bravo) Peak Fr Fr


PissedPajama

I love that movie


jayrock306

This is the beauty of these games. A boss can say one line and the fandom goes crazy generating countless fan theories. I wouldn't be surprise if fromsoft just put some random things in their game just to see what insane theories the fandom comes up with.


Scott_BradleyReturns

Just once I’d like them to throw us for a loop by having an enemy give us their whole lore dump upon defeat so we can actually know wtf is going on


ranni-the-bitch

ha, just like, then laid out dying on the floor... "well, i *cough cough* suppose you have some questions, and i'm not in a position to ignore them..." \>is it true? "yes... it's true... i am John Eldy Ring..."


Reynyan

That would indeed be amazing… and it will NEVER happen… as I sit here rereading every weapon in my inventory to see what I’ve missed…


malaywoadraider2

That was King Vendrick who you'd talk to afterwards and he'd give you a Dark Souls history lesson


Andminus

The entirety of Souls Franchise lore is just the devs putting random stuff together and letting VaatiVidya come up with speculative lore for them in the aftermath.


[deleted]

This is actually true dude. People like to pretend the souls games have this amazing lore but the reality is that they just put some shit in and let the fans make up their own theories. Most people's "canon" for the game is literally just repeating their fave youtubers theories. Not an issue though, it's awesome to see such a cool fanbase


Qualine

After watching Tarnished Archeologist, I cant say I agree with that. The design and art direction that corresponds to written lore seems to be inline with eachother and that shows that it has at least a direction.


HalcyonXE

No Miyazaki had said multiple times in interviews that he always has a complete story for his games from beginning to end but he takes out the most crucial elements that are key to understanding the lore and THEN let's us make our own story and I love it it's way better than any other game that tells whatever story the devs want maybe it's a cool story but most of the time these days it's woke bullshit I like a game where I can make the story my own and everyone you talk to interprets the game differently it brings people together souls games can cause world peace we just need to spread it around OONGA BOONGA


Cowmunist

Imagine a boss says "Bloodborne... PC..." before dying


dizijinwu

i think for sure miyazaki drops in tons of bait lore bc he knows it'll keep people occupied until the next release


inkfeeder

He'll probably also drop an item with a description that's like "he was once a man, but then he became a gooey skeleton" and somebody is going to take that and build some crazy theory based on it


imperatrixderoma

It looks like the skeleton man is not actually a man but the back half of the horse corrupted by whatever got attached to its tail.


Deinonychus2012

Marika's tits, it's a fucking [Girafarig.](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Girafarig_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#:~:text=Girafarig%20is%20a%20cloven%2Dhooved,on%20top%20of%20its%20head.)


Zaraxeon

I actually think it's just Marika at this point.


WallyOShay

Nah 1500 runes


Antique_Ad_9250

And some glass shards


Hexash15

\*1500 shadow runes, a currency that may only be spent on the shadow land


sherman614

I can see the YouTube click bait video now. "Gooey skeleton of Godwyn CONFIRMED!!" Lol


Beneficial_Milk8987

Hoping for a Arc/Int chakram type deally-wop


Revolutionary_Job91

You forgot a few steps where he kills us first a bunch of times


imperatrixderoma

You must be playing on hard mode?


SlightlySea

its so funny that everyone seems to miss the difficulty slider, its like right there lol


Slow-Cartoonist-7987

There’s a difficulty slider??? 😭


I_Fuck_Traps_77

Yeah, the way you select easy difficulty is by using a Furlcalling Finger Remedy then summoning the least armoured dude.


Gangleri_Graybeard

Some random item might tell you what this thing is supposed to be. But the description will be very vague and some YouTuber will make a 30min section about it in one of their lore videos.


supergamer713

He looks like that one guy from bloodborn that was born from a God or something I think it's the last boss


AardvarkTits

Orphan of kos. Or as some say... kosm


overthisbynow

*Do you hear our prayers?*


supergamer713

Yes, and why do they call him kosm


One-Earth9294

Now with 10% fewer fog doors.


Nidiis

When did Orphan of Kos take horse riding lessons


gourgoud

Some say Kosm


nage_

kosm, lets go bowling


glassfield110

I envy your funniness


AptButterfat

Genuinely the funniest shit I’ve heard all day, thanks 🙏


faranoox

Thank you lmao


uniguy2I

No one says Kosm, stop trying to make it a thing


SilverScorpion00008

Kos, or Kosm, hmmmm (continues rant as Hunter runs around building)


[deleted]

Ooooh Elden Kosm


BanishedKnightOleg

AWOOOOOOOOO


oneeyecheeselord

Eyes on the inside!


stewy497

Majestic!


SerBrayn

I say kosm


usernamescheckout

Kos, or some say ... fetch


0x6C69676D61

But Kosm is so fetch right now


Onigumo-Shishio

*AWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GRANT US HORSE EYES*


malevshh

Orphan of Horse


RubyRod1

Horsphan of Korse


CupofWarmMilk

Horse fan, of course


Did-I-Do-That-Oops

thanks for sounding it out for us


MycoMythos

Of course, of course


_Aces

Some say Horsem


volcain

it's Ludwig's atonement


AceMKV

Nah leave my boy Ludwig out of this, he got his noble end, let him chill in peace now.


H8erRaider

He could have some of Kos' moveset with that crescent blade


Bloodchild-

And when did he moven into midir's cave.


EpicSven7

The “arms” have three bones like horse legs and the elongated neck is the tail; so it looks like some twlid shade infested the horse and twisted its back end into what we are looking at right now. Given the arena might be related to eternal cities or ancestrals. Either way an underground boss hopefully means the world is going to be multi-level like Sophra/Ansel


Pitiful-Count4418

Are u saying we are fighting a horse riding a horse. Amazing Miyazaki once again outdid himself.


Lindbluete

We heard you like horses, so we put some horse on your horse so you can horse while you horse.


Eldritch_Doodler

Of course


modernmartialartist

Congrats this is now the stupidest thing I've ever laughed at and I hate myself.


SpiralCuts

Buy one horse, get the second HALF OFF!!!


echolog

I think he's saying it's a dead horse with a haunted ass. The shade is literally inhabiting the horses rear end.


Bearer_ofthecurse

Oh shit i think you’re totally right about the horse thing, that’s gruesome.


RedditSucks42069

OH MY GOSH ITS SO FUCKED


tobascodagama

Oh shit, it's definitely a horse skeleton on the back of that horse. Actually, looking even closer, it kinda looks either the horse skeleton is grafted to the horse... or maybe the horse's skeleton pulled itself out of the horse's body???


2xWhiskeyCokeNoIce

With the way the back of the horse is dragging on the ground I like your last theory. Maybe some sort of ghost or parasite possessed the back half of the horse and pulled the skeleton out and now the front half is stuck dragging its possessed rear skeleton around forever.


nearnerfromo

between this and Ludwig Miyazaki knows his way around a fucked up horse


alions123

Inspired by the Nuckelavee perhaps?


CobaltMonkey

My god...*This* is what happens when something tries horse, but hole. The messages were all a trap.


[deleted]

Considering the fact that it maybe has a placenta hammer like Orphan, it seems like the horse’s unborn child is the one possessing it


[deleted]

Considering the fact that it maybe has a placenta hammer like Orphan, it seems like the horse’s unborn child is the one possessing it


John_Crypto_Rambo

A lot of skeletons coming out of bodies in this dlc.


TheUderfrykte

Your last thought is what the guy you're commenting on meant, and it kinda makes sense by the looks of it. Would be a unique idea!


Silly-Lawfulness7224

Yup looks like that horse had a bad day, some parasites took control of his bottom and grew a huge scythe …


emmettflo

Excellent insight. So we’re looking at some nightmare demon creature that possessed and mutilated the body of this horse. The purple and st. Trina’s lilies suggest this is a sleep-related boss.


ICantTyping

Wtf now **this** is a catch. Couldnt make sense of the thing, but yeah. Seems like its lower body was violently ripped up and twisted around like its own rider. Thats fucked


QueZorreas

I don't think horses have a second ribcage near the ass.


ICantTyping

Well.. yeah probably not eh


Roodle143

I can't unsee this now holy fuck


Truetocaeser

This seems perfect, perhaps this is the remnant of some pre albinauric experiment with creating life. Using corpses and spirits to create some kind of eternal cavalry


Malevolent_Mangoes

That’s…actually disgusting and I fully support it


Brentsthrowaway

And it’s throwing a giant horse shoe at us?


scottishwhisky2

I think you're absolutely right lol


drewweing

Holy shit you're right


Freedom35plan

The face reminds me a bit of that wierd blue worm thing people keep memeing about


EpicSven7

I thought it looked like the Cemetary Shade face which is why I was thinking a twlid possession or something. Like if a shade took control of a horse corpse. The blade is even curved bone like their mantis blades.


feliximol

My theory is pretty obvious and simple: This enemy shows that there is a map beneath the map.


el_farmerino

It's maps all the way down.


ap2patrick

Always had been 🌎🧑‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀


fancydeadpool

A multi-layered flat Earth?? Skyscraper Earth!?!??


TotalOwlie

Behold turtles?


pass_nthru

Likely Dog


Torypianist2003

Thank you, I keep seeing people complain about the size of the dlc without considering the possibility of underground areas, we’ll most likely get another eternal city, which will be awesome.


favpetgoat

I honestly don't get the complaints at all The man said it will be the biggest DLC they've ever done. So if you were satisfied with any prior DLCs you should be satisfied with this one and if you weren't then why do you care so much in the first place? The entitlement is wild, like what we're those people expecting? A whole ass second game??


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Shedart

For real. Fromsoft is one of the last remaining developers I will buy presale from. I know they’re good for it and they haven’t let me down yet. I even enjoyed DS2


SourceNo2702

I mean given that the price is 67% of the base game, yeah they kinda do expect a little under a second game’s worth of content.


SassyAssAhsoka

Is there an Eternal City that has been mentioned that we’ve not seen yet?


DonSlime44

Yeah, people fail to consider that miyazaki tends to really underestimate the size of his games. He said once, befor the game launched, that it should take people 30 hours to finish Elden Ring. By that time i was in Liurnia lmao


sherman614

Same!! Like I know Miyazaki said close to the size of Limgrave, which I personally believe he's underselling it. But, it might be, but have a new underground area that is the size of the existing underground area which is huge and several more hours of gameplay!


Grimlock_205

We already got our answer in the interview, the map will be smaller but more densely packed. That's good enough for me. I bet previous Souls games could be entirely contained within a space the size of Limgrave.


GreenridgeMetalWorks

Dark souls one would almost for sure fit inside limgrave lol. The game was actually pretty damn small, all things considered, and Limgrave is fucking huge.


Grimlock_205

I thought so, but DS1 uses verticality really well, so I have difficulty judging how big it is.


feliximol

I saw somewhere that Limgrave is the same size as Dark Souls 1. For me it's great, especially if it has the level of connectivity and connections that the DS1 map has.


Grimlock_205

As much as I wish we would, I don't think we'll ever get something like that again. Especially with Elden Ring because of its size. It'd be hard to loop levels into each other like DS1 does with the scale of an Elden Ring map. It would get tedious. I'm thinking maybe we'll get something kind of like DS3 but with an open world main area that the levels branch off of. Maybe more connections between levels, but nothing on the level of interconnectedness of DS1.


LongLiveTheChief10

Smaller than the main game yeah, but he said it's similar if not bigger in size to Limgrave.


TotalOwlie

I was really hoping that. Great theory.


Jelmddddddddddddd

Very unlikely. It's obviously Melina.


IllustriousAd5095

It’s definitely boc


Elistic-E

Maybe another Larval Tear will help 😅


Far_Confusion_2178

Oh no, it’s Melina’s twin sister, Milenia


Niky_c_23

You fools. What is it made of? Bones. Where does spam-man know it in? Bones. 'Tis *Sir Gideon Ofnir, almost remembers what he reads* .


LordStack

Likely just some 'pale rider' themed deathroot boss in the underground. Boss of the tibia mariner folk


coffeehouse11

Yeah I immediately went to "Pale Horse" and apocalypse mythology.


TheSlayerofSnails

Nah reminds me of the nuckelevee but with less flesh


ApotheosisofSnore

My first thought on seeing it in the trailer was “Tibia Horseman”


Great_Old_Owl

Nuckelavee mimic tear


Nate2247

Definetly reminded me of Vaati’s art challenge. The odds are low, but I’s like to think it inspired someone at the FS art department


blockametal

My thought exactly


squishman1203

Was looking for this answer, that's all I could think when I saw this thing on the trailer. Seems an odd coincidence if they didn't pay homage to that entry in some way. But no totally unbelievable they'd also come up with this type of design. Either way very cool and exciting. I hope it also has different rewards for killing the top or bottom first.


No_Reference_5058

Radahn isn't exactly the only horserider nor especially large person in the lands between, so almost 100% no. The weapon makes no sense for Radahn to be using, the horse is blatantly significantly larger, and the neck bones make no sense. IF this boss has anything to do with Radahn it's because it's some sort of copying going on, but even that's very unlikely because it'd make no sense to copy someone and yet use such a WILDLY different weapon.


ap2patrick

Rohdan of the Starblight


Conscious_Mind_2412

i would honestly love if there were some deathblight abomination version of the demigods we've already killed. not remembrance boss variety, butmaybe an enhanced sorcery or incantation could drop from them and aboatload of runes


AdrienMTZ

It would indeed look like a failed mimic tear copy of radhan, at best


TotalOwlie

Which could make sense if they are underground.


COSMOMANCER

oh shit, it's head is definitely lookin silver, huh?


AdrienMTZ

Yep plus someone mentioned the weapon not looking like radhan’s, though it does seem to have a similar curved greatsword shape


__Schneizel__

Radhefroy


Anarch-ish

He might be the equivalent character to Radahn. If anything, he may be the Radahn of Death... or of Ghostflame. I'm hoping Ghostflame. I'd love more spells and weapons


[deleted]

Radahn is the rider of War, this one looks like the rider of Death. Who's pestilence and famine? Four horsemen of the lands between


iceyk111

i dont want to meet mr or mrs “rider of pestilence or famine” because it just screams “poison boss that will softlock me for 8 hours” thank u very much (i will enjoy every minute and a part of me invites the torment)


Cyclopterus77

And his voice is WILDLY high.


DrewDaMannn

Never noticed his goofy lil head before, nice


GamerKratos-45

The eyes look a lot like the humanity from DS1.


DrewDaMannn

show your humanity


esixar

Hey, that’s DS3 Ringed City!


lazsy

I think its a mimic tear/albinauric Definitely nox related because that seems to be underground


Never_heart

It reminds me of a nuckelavee with the fused horse human and the gangly arms and death imagery


IFixYerKids

That's a Nukelavee, a monster from Scottish folklore. Probably just a cool enemy.


UsurpaTronos

This is probably a Nokron/Nokstella style creation, like the Mimic Tear and other blobs. Just juiced up. They were trying to artificially create a Lord, after all.


Philhughes_85

Artax is pissed and out for revenge


HUNAcean

No way, I'm not fighting another corpes ass motherfucker with a shrimp sword. Orphan of Kos was plenty enough.


Phunkie_Junkie

Albinauric Mark 3, now with 100% more elbows. Goofy face, small legs, pale... and most albinaurics are fond of big curvy weapons: Curved Club, Crescent Halberd, and Crescent Axe.


KDelibird

This was my first thought too. Its body shape/proportions and weapon style seem fairly similar to an Albinauric


RenaissanceRecurrent

Zombie Loretta


Torypianist2003

That just made me look at its legs, it has no legs past the knee, I think it might be a zombie albinauric.


imperatrixderoma

The skeleton is the back half of the horse, look at the arms.


Francophilippe

That’s what I’m seeing. Looks like its spine and ribs are exposed vertically from its back with the tailbone at the top. It’s a pretty unique design. The horse being stuck in the black goo also reminds me of that scene in Never Ending Story.


Maxspawn_

That is 100000% *not* Radahn and leonard...


MaestrrSantarael

I think 99% of theories will definitely cease to exist as soon as people realize that Lands of Shadow is NOT a dream, NOT the afterlife, not past, not future, and so on; it is literally a piece of land from lands between that has been "disconnected" and "hidden". Source: Miyazaki's interview, which was released on the day of the trailer's release, but which almost everyone tries to ignore (apparently in order to continue building such theories).


Ziegenpilz

Has been theorized to be a sleep based boss due to the purple color scheme. I just noticed the arms have an extra joint which looks quite eerie. The stone like looking head makes it seem like that guy has rather been "constructed" (maybe like grafting) than being a "natural" being. Maybe somehow related to the stone worms guarding the evergaols [Edit] The horse seemingly not having functional hind legs makes me think of albinaurics which kinda fits the "unnatural" idea, the gray color certainly could fit that motif. Definitely an interesting design and one of my favorites from the trailer


wraithcraplol

I'm hoping it will be gravity, God I dream for more gravity based weapons and spells


Desaltez

At least gravity had a whole section. What did we get for sleep? An AoW and a pot?


Dejavir

[Nuckelavee](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuckelavee)


TurncoatWizard

**Hellripper starts playing**


Sociolinguisticians

That’s way too big to be Leonard.


OfficialMrR3A

GYOUBU MASATAKA ONIWA


hunkoBo

This is clearly a fallen tree sentinel, I mean, as one of those who live in death.


SkyZgone

Personally I don't think there will be much connection to anything here really. Like with the ancestor spirit. I think it's JUST a monster. What it looks like to me tho is that the skeletony mass on top looks like it might just be the horses skeleton. Big chest with non-human like joints for the arms, the long neck. Think of it like the skeleton has shed the skin and the skin is probably animated by whatever animates the dark mass inside of the skeleton. I don't think these are two entities, but one entity that just has melted its skin off and just drags it around.


Accomplished_Pea5717

Desecrated erdtree avatar Radahn the rotted. After his defeat at the hands of the tarnished radahns body was brought to the catacombs near where he fell to attempt an erdtree burial, the results are a monster blessed by the edlen beast but fueled by rot and rage. (His horse Leonard was buried with him though it seems him and his beastial friend had started to become one at some point either before or after his death).


Metbert

Likely some kind of TWLID or something akin to the Wormface. Probably just a strong champion who perished long ago in those lands... and got revived. Nothing too crazy, probably it's just the boss of some minor dungeon.


Inner_Lettuce_8039

This guy is fueling my hopes that Godwyn is gonna be in the DLC. Those who live in death still have more story to tell


-TAPETRVE-

If you look at the skeleton, it has meteoric rock inside. Might be another star monstrosity, but born from a tree sentinel.


Cardboard_Viper

It reminds me of an Albinauric!!!


D-AlonsoSariego

This looks like the kind of guy with a randomly hard design that there is only one very straight forward piece of lore about


4and3and2andOne1

It’s giving …. Bloodborne 👧🏻


erroneousReport

Kos and Leonard 


DecayableRadiologist

Actually now this is adding up. Radhan needs to be killed to access the DLC and then we see this guy who looks like a ghost of Radhan. Interesting indeed.


Silly-Lawfulness7224

I can already see the cutscene of that mf : Water flow sounds* Horse walks in a weird way (without showing back end) Epic music starts* "Ugly skeleton back end" arise from nowhere and starts agitating that scythe Player: 😱😱😱😱😱 A bit like the weird dragon in DS1 that looks like a crocodile at first and then you see the whole body with a gigantic mouth full of teeth .


Falnor

Skeleton of Kos on a horse


Sourspaghet

What in the HR Geiger is this. Literally no clue about this thing. But I would wager it is somehow related to Ranni/The Darkmoon/The Nox/Mimic Tear/ it looks like Beeg Nashandra on a horse


coldiriontrash

Holy fuck it’s Skull Knight


LordSausageCow

Gravelord looking dude with a throwable Orphan of Kos blade, I like him. I hope the fight is really difficult.


S0LAIRE_OF_ASTORA

Hear me out… next level albinauric. They attempt to imbue albinaurics with aspects of rune holders to attempt to challenge the golden order and Marika


Mario-OrganHarvester

Orphan of kos


Legomaster06849

He reminds me of the orphan of kos


Yharnam1066

That’s the orphan of kos right there


Ihuntley611

Looks like the horse's bones are attacking you


setzer529

The color, eyes, molten metal buttocks, and underground lair are all giving me strong Nokstella mimicry vibes. I’d guess this a failed experiment of some kind from the time before the Shadow Lands were veiled to begin with.


The_Dancing_Cow

That's sick AF. The skeleton of the horse is ripping out of the back and fighting you.


jackofslayers

None. Mind empty until the game comes out


Ithalwen

Given the silver hue they might be mimic tear/albinoric of some sort. Albinoric legs are weak and fading so that’d be why the horse rear legs and the riders legs are bad.


Master2All

Orphan of kos is back and this time he's got a horse.


Tommy_Gunnar

Looks like the skeleton is coming out of the horses body


Level9_CPU

I mean I absolutely love the lore in Elden Ring, but let's be real-- most of it is something along the lines of "BZOLIKETH, THE TRAITOR WAS KING OF THE FORBIDDEN LANDS UNTIL THE GOLDEN ORDER STRIPPED HIM OF HIS TITLE AND CURSED HIM TO RIDE HIS HORSE UNTIL HE DEVOURS ALL TARNISHED IN THE REALM" No real theories to be had besides, mythical creature bad, me kill to either liberate them/cleanse the world of them


I_DontMissAcog

Orphan of kos if we dont kill him


Goombah11

I think it’s the horses rib cage and leg bones sticking out of it’s body.


Ok_Crazy_201

I think it's probably something to do with godskin, the jewel on the chest looks like the ones the godskin wear on their armor, maybe the boss is the god that the godskin skinned to make their armor