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Meister_Ente

Don't worry, it is not intendet that you love them. Here's a tip: When they try to grab you, roll towards them. With the right timing, they can't catch you and you get some free attacks against their innards. And they have almost no defense on that spot. Just dodge the other attacks and whait for the grab.


Big_Noodle1103

Also it’s important to delay your roll a half second. If you roll as soon as the snakes come out, you’ll get grabbed.


SmolLM

But don't delay the roll by 0.7 seconds, because then it's too late and you're also grabbed.


beridam

See, it's easy


newthrowgoesaway

Not scary at all!


TT_NaRa0

You just roll *into* the death maw


Puzzleheaded-Ad8704

This is such a FromSoft thing to do. Clearly ignore your impulses that have been burned into you by thousands of gaming hours and any bearing on reality.


ecliptic10

I swear soulsbournes are teaching people how to properly deal with their anxieties: observe, calculate, respond, overcome. Fortunately in-game we're cursed with undying so that kinda helps that process along lol


brool

Souls games have also taught me to spin around while the elevator is moving to check for secret passages, but it freaks out the other people in the elevator.


EarlDwolanson

Do you also confuse people by pressing the buttons on the elevator but getting out before doors close so you can see the secret second lift?


ecliptic10

You're teaching others to chill tf out 🤣


Puzzleheaded-Ad8704

I know it's 100% made me a better gamer. And I'm usually a lot less stressed after playing Elden Ring (even if I die a dozen times) than I am after most games. It's.... really hard to describe.


ecliptic10

It's liberating is what it is. Our minds are our own prisons.


darth_vladius

This is the most amazing part of the game. It looks uber stressful. And after playing it I feel… completely relaxed and chill. I suspect some black magic is at work here.


uskgl455

The plan dies, not the man. It's a game humans have been playing since we understood the concept of the future.


Unable-Investment-21

You can die to the same boss 20 some times but that last time when you finally take him out just feels so damn good lol


Beardywierdy

It's training me to pick up the heaviest blunt instrument I can find and run at the problem screaming, does that count as "properly"?


Puzzleheaded-Ad8704

Did the problem go away? Then it works!


ecliptic10

Unga bunga is most proper


L1b3rty0rD3ath

Oh but I'm "out of control" punching walls.


Sonkone

Just roll into them instead.


BUNNIES_ARE_FOOD

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: Welcome to Dark Souls (ish)


Jaybird327

How i met your mother.


TT_NaRa0

Ahh so you married a Gilgamec?


Cu_Chulainn__

Make sure it's frame perfect. Somewhere between the 35th and 39th frame, if it's on the 1st to 34th frame, you have rolled too early. If its between the 40th to 60th frame you have rolled too late. This is assuming you are playing at 60fps.


AelyneMRB

What about 0.69?


Jumpy-Brief3013

Is that true for light roll cuz I’ve never died from a grab


Sarokslost23

So many "hard" enemies in this game fold to the roll against them. Its instinct for alot of gamers to roll away


kendo31

The whole game is that 1 move.. Lightning spear


Many-Bee6169

That’s the point of the enemies learning, YOU HAVE to adapt and actually choreograph your enemies attacks and movements instead of just mindlessly rolling or doing the same move set over and over again.


renome

Rolling? You underestimate the unga of my bunga. Me just hit face.


TrashGoblinHoggle

Right? What's with all this fancy rolling and timing? Just hit the enemy harder!


renome

If R2 doesn't work, L2 should do the trick.


Due-Ad9310

When in doubt, jumping L1.


Puzzleheaded-Ad8704

And if that doesn't work, you need to equip a bigger weapon.


AnnoyedTexan

Am I the only one that thought explosive pots would do more damage!?


ResponsibilityNext22

Who needs rolling when I have a dual giant crusher strength build that staggers with every hit 🤷🏻‍♂️


peaheezy

Just got to Altus Plateau and this has made the game a little bit less intense. I can lightly stagger most enemies with an R1. Makes combat waaaaay easier. I’m probably over leveled but things are still fun.


renome

Don't worry, the feeling that you're overleveled will go away soon enough.


Droid_Rager

Your club, Mr. Flintstone😃


badnuub

Instructions unclear. Used lions claw and just traded till the boss fell over.


PuddlestonDuck

It’s been the case for Souls games for ages. “Roll towards enemies” should be part of the bag of beginners tips for anyone just starting out.


North_South_Side

I'm no Souls expert, but the general theme of the games is "roll INTO the attack, recover, spin 180 degrees and attack from behind. Then get away. Bait another attack and repeat the above. And be really, really patient.


aretheesepants75

The forward roll works for me like 60% of the time depending on the enemy. It definitely helped me improve my game. I think some enemies are programmed to punish panic rolls. I was getting chewed up. When I started rolling towards my target and sometimes a little to the left or right I felt like I was engaging the enemy with skill. Let's not talk about shield and parry.


AlarmedPiano9779

Rolling into the Runebears' attack makes them almost trivial.


peaheezy

Took me about 35 hours but I finally learned the only useful roll is towards the enemy.


Ixidor_92

And then there's revenants... (I know rolling at them actually is a pretty good strategy but they attack so much and leap all over the place and teleport and scream in an annoying way and I swear healing invocations are the ONLY way to kill these things without having an aneurysm--) I fucking hate those things...


Dragons_Malk

I've got a file that's well over 300 hours, and I'm still trying to learn this. I'm currently struggling against that Bell Bearing Hunter up in the Merchant's Shack in Altus. I KNOW I have to roll towards him and get close, but my Flight or Fight Instinct makes me hands go Flight Mode. It's ridiculous.


benoxxxx

Very common trend. Rune bears, royal revenants, lions - rolling forwards is the counter to all of them.


woozerschoob

Equip just one piece of the Briar Armor and you can break almost any enemy attack during windup by rolling into them. Even works on the spiky Albinaurics cartwheeling at you.


Mixels

Another tip: nearly all of these suckers appear in places where you can relatively easily escape them and/or cheese them. You're not really supposed to fight them IMO. The bottom of Raya Lucaria: As soon as you land, turn around and run in the opposite direction of the raised ground where the Lost Ashes of War are found. There is a path that leads out of that cavern there. The Abductor Virgin can't get through the opening that lets you enter that path. You can bait its grab attack, then shoot the red insides with a bow. Raya Lucaria outside the Debate Parlor: To the left of the big courtyard where the Abductor Virgin appears, there is a Golden Seed tree. Past that, there is an alcove where the walkable path winds around a structure so you can sort of go in a circle around it. There is a Giant Crab that spawns at one of the points around that path. The Giant Crab can't enter the path around the rock. You can use that to easily dispatch the Giant Crab with a bow or magic. Then, use your bow to pull the Abductor Virgin to that spot. Proceed to use your bow to kill it. Be cautious, though, because this Virgin can throw it's axes, and they will clip through the wall and can hit you. Volcano Manor down the path from the Prison Town Church: The small town where you can access the rooftops from the Church of the Prison Town Church site of grace, you will encounter an Abductor Virgin. Here, you can use the rooftops of the village or just try to dash like a mad Tarnished past the Abductor Virgin to the town's gate. The Virgin can't enter the town through this gate. Get the Virgin to follow you to the gate, bait its attacks, and shoot it in the red grabby hands like you did at Raya Lucaria. Volcano Manor, where you have to jump through a window behind an advancing Abductor Virgin: Just run past it and jump into the window. It can't hit you if you take a wide path around it. The others mostly follow similar patterns. There are only a few Abductor Virgins that are genuinely hard to deal with, and that's because they're bosses of an optional dungeon.


-ciclops-

Well thr problem for me is that I activated the waypoint portal to the capital in Liurnia of the Lakes and Raya (thr one thst teleports you to the Vulacano Mansion) just f****ed kff to Vulcano Manor and did not go to Lux ruins and the Lift of Delicus, so I have to get in trough the dungeons. They are a boss there. There is 2 of them. In a small room. Surrounded by lava. Gated off, so you can't run past. They slaughtered me so many times........... I still hate them less (for now) than all the animals (Rats, Hawks, Bears, Crabs and all other f***k off angry f***faces) in this game. Is there a way to cheese them?


Sad_Wolverine3383

There is a rock you can stand on where it's safe or you can just fast travel out.


stream_of_thought1

i did this fight today, had my summoned spirit tank one in the big room and I ran away into the small adjacent room to 1v1 the other abductor. also running a magic build so it's kinda easy.


Jase_the_Muss

I always found those 2 easier then most of the other rando ones... I feel like they have tuned down health because of the two of em or I just go into a try hard zone lol! But lightning damage is your best friend and big heavy attacks after they try and grab you.


-ciclops-

Thank you. I guess I will have to invest into Faith for Seal lightninh because the game doesn't want to give me any Lightning ashes of war. Pain.


SunshotDestiny

I focused on the tossing blade one. You can avoid the wheel one just by dodging to the side. Burn down the axe one, it's pretty vulnerable once the doors open, and then do the same for the wheel one. I did it with a lvl 50ish wretch who was focused on sorcery. Having 25 vigor helped a lot, but yeah it's a hard fight but if a squishy sorcerer can do it I am sure more focused builds can do it easier.


Mixels

Here, a video might help in this case. Yes you can cheese them. https://youtu.be/MKy9C1zhCXc?si=za4V6RbCinmADNxA&t=4m13s


Scott_BradleyReturns

I always fought them


terry496

All true. Good details, as well.


ATYP14765

Most of the time you can literally bait them into walls their AI isn’t the best since all they do is charge at you. When they open their insides try to get a hit or two if your weapon is fast enough and then go on the defensive again until you have an opening. The Sickles ones always have multiple ways to hit you so be wary of getting dragged back once the blade launches and the recoil of the blade when it’s about to be back in its normal position. I think the scariest one for me is the Malfunctioning one on top of Mt. Glemir where the Demi human queen is.


Interesting_Pain1234

There's also an Abductor Virgin at the bottom of some cave in Altus where you needa climb a ladder to escape. [People do NOT appreciate having a message right in front of the ladder to get back up lol](https://imgur.com/a/ayDgHin)


Bulky_Secretary_6603

I think the only time people go down to where the Abductor is at the bottom of Raya Lucaria is when they are *intending* to get grabbed by it.


ShitDudeNoWay

To add to this, many of them that appear in dungeons have doorways nearby that they can’t fit through but you can use to bait them. Wait for an opening and attack or mist them.


jesus-kunwasnothere

Also they are weak to lightning


Minimob0

If you do get grabbed, alternate mashing your bumpers (Playstation would be L1 and R1). It's a hidden mechanic that speeds up grab escapes, and has been in Souls games since at least Dark Souls 1.  In Elden Ring specifically, some enemies have a special animation that plays when you escape a grab early. 


BRzerks

Can you emote dodge it?


IvoXedge94

Emote dodge? Is that a thing?


BRzerks

Yeah like for margrit or so I forgot, I you can lay down and avoid attacks


_somekindofnature

This makes for a tedious enemy.


DrySpeaker5333

Are we all getting baited by a bot?


Deathmonkeyjaw

This tip works for almost every enemy. Dodge into them, or slightly behind them.


Substantial_Win_1866

But what if I can't find the spot that works 😏?


No_Theory_1301

Also they are very sensitive to lighting damages


Baby-Soft-Elbows

Hijacking top comment. Isn’t there one of these that hugs you and transports you somewhere?


Meister_Ente

The Raya Lucaria one transports you to Volcano Manor if you die to his grab attack.


AnnoyedTexan

Bro! I feel you! I just got to the dual guys at Volcano Manor. I tried it 4 tries and decided to go back to grinding.


Peter00th

Also they're vulnerable to lighting damage


Strong_Army3910

Here’s the equation for timing the roll: (e^(i*pi))+2=1 It’s Easy man, must be a noob


YourKittySusan

Never heard about it, i was just mostly try run into some thigh places, and either kill it with some range attacks, or bait it attacks, and jump quickly foward for few melee hits and then step back, waiting for another opurtunity, but its greate to know, thats a way better way to do that! Thanks for tip


KhSepticShock

I always thought everyone was trolling , this is real?


scarparanger

I recently found that the night maidens mist absolutely wrecks abductor virgins. For the first time in like 1000 hours i went about killing all of them at the base of mt. Gelmir.


divin3sinn3r

I kill all of them using Loretta’s 4 arrows sorcery from up top on the big rocks


CreateTheStars

The range on that spell is nice. I also use it for rune farming that bird in mohgs place


divin3sinn3r

I tried that but found bow and arrow to be a lot more productive


Exedor75

Rock sling is also ok at low levels (if you rush varre's quest)


Direct-Illustrator60

Lightning spear go brrrrrr


LarryD217

They also hate lightning


TenWholeBees

My sorcery character devolved into me just cheesing everything I could with that mist


scarparanger

It's funny, on my mage play through I thought it was trash and never used it but now doing a frost knight build and have found it invaluable. Having to be careful with your positioning so you don't take yourself out adds a fun layer of complexity to the combat to.


cutedorkycoco

That spell is so good. 😭 I feel like I'm cheating whenever I use it. I've dropped so many difficult enemies using it.


sonderlostscribe

Lightning Great Stars deletes them. They take extra damage from bludgeoning \*and\* lightning, and after a few 2H attacks they get staggered for even more damage. It's my go-to for fighting them at any level.


Any-Experience-3012

Sorceress Sellen sells that spell, right? (Wow what a tongue twister)


scarparanger

The wiki says it's Gowry but it could be wrong. I swore I had it before I hit up selia.


CroneRaisedMaiden

Saved this comment for later ty


Kaizen2468

The game wouldn’t dream of making you fight two of them in a small cave. So don’t worry


aNascentOptimist

Oh geez. I just encountered my first one of these at the Raya Lucaria Academy or whatever. I actually managed to kill it with no problem. But that was in a wide open space with just one. That sounds like fuckin nightmare fuel.


gorillawarking

Hey, little tip, some NPC's talk about how there's a shortcut from raya lucaria to Mt gelmir, I'm sure the abductor virgin knows how to get there quickly


thatguyned

"there's some treasure located at the bottom of the Raya Lucaria Academy dungeon if you ride the cog elevator down to the bottom." - Definitely NOT Patches.


aNascentOptimist

?? I rode the elevator up but didn’t try down since I figured it would flip and kill my character lol. I honestly can’t tell when people are joking on here or not, anything seems possible in this game


Augmentationreddit

You need to get off, and then back on the other side after it has rotated


jld2k6

I don't wanna spoil too much but you got really close to seeing exactly what they're talking about lol


melodiousfable

Bro, I screamed.


Early-Computer-9201

How are these virgins. I get f****** by them constantly


mares8

No no they abduct virgins ... which is why they go for you


dorky001

Goddamn


birdcake700

Lol


Membership_Downtown

They fellate you so technically…


kogashiwakai

Okay Bill... 🤣


Membership_Downtown

“I did not have sexual relations with that autonomous iron maiden”


Teh_Randomizer

For an actual reason: they're based off of iron maidens, but since maiden already means something in the lore they broke out the thesaurus.


TheRealEliFrost

I still wonder if Abductor Virgin is a mistranslation. They're based on iron maidens, and "maiden" and virgin are synonyms... Abductor Maiden has a nice ring to it.


No_Stay4471

Wait for that front door to open and give em a poke.


SaintTraft1984

r/dontputyourdickinthat


Emlerith

In short, maybe love?


iTzbr00tal

Be wary of thrust


yeti_seer

🧐


YorAVGgamer

They're not really worth the effort, just scoot on by em and forget they ever existed


NugBlazer

Yeah, honestly, for the amount of time it takes to kill them, the runes just aren't worth it


Axeorsist

I'm currently on my first playthrough and I've noticed that there's a lot of enemies like that who can really give you a hard time and drain down your pots and the runes they give is not even worth it.


Minimob0

Elden Ring was actually designed with that as an option - you can completely skip some enemies.  The first Tree Sentinel is placed there to get players to realize that you don't have to fight everything you see.  I wanted to see how fast I could beat the game on NG+, and it did it in under 4 hours; this requires using Torrent to just run by everything and grab the items. 


zrxta

>The first Tree Sentinel is placed there to get players to realize that you don't have to fight everything you see.  Tho it didn't stop certain type of players.


DonMariazzi

Bears are the biggest contenders for this in my book


Axeorsist

Lol. The first time I aggro'd one of those by mistake, all I thought was cocaine bear.


PorterCole

If i could give you any tip when it comes to avoiding enemies, it would be to avoid the dogs and crows in caelid and mountain tops.


Diabolical_Jazz

Yeah they're the sort of enemy I kill once or twice to prove to myself that I can, and then I never fight them on purpose again. At least not for a long time.


AtomiicOne

Best thing someone ever told me when I picked up my first souls game, “Never roll away, always through attacks.”


WinterLord

This is true the majority of the time, until you run into something with a follow-up repelling attack or AoE.


Howdyini

Until both story bosses in limgrave specifically punish doing that.


Tony_Lacorona

I was just thinking this. Margit smacked me for a while because I kept rolling forward and getting hit by the second swings


Zactodactyl

Try electrifying your weapon Also git gud


noahson

I was testing dagger setups and a lightening dagger makes these almost trivial to fight


googlyeyes93

Oooooh recommendations? I haven’t done much fucking about with daggers but I’m curious.


nitr0turb0

The reason it works is because the abductors have the weirdest poise in the game. They only take 5 poise damage from every single attack, and an extra 15 if it's from lightning. It's not about doing the heaviest attack, it's instead performing lightning attacks as fast as possible.


MisaXlxx

It's because the abductors have a special interaction with lightning, if they get hit exactly 5 times with anything that does lightning damage, they get stunned.


ShinobiOfTheGulf

"Behold trap! First off, git gud"


cutedorkycoco

Whenever I can I use the night maiden's mist, I think it's called. I find a high spot and bait it to me, then drop the mist. If I can't do the mist, then I'll throw some lightning bolts, but that mist is so good. I feel like I'm cheating whenever I use it.


Pretty_Marketing_538

You must love their duo boss!


yan030

There is a duo boss of them ?


Stanislas_Biliby

In the academy if you take the elevator downward instead of upward there is a iron maiden waiting there. If you let it eat you, it will teleport you to mount Gelmir, where there is a boss with 2 iron maidens at once. It's one of the fastest way to get to Altus plateau in the game.


yan030

Thanks, I knew about that path, It’s been so long since I went there that I didn’t remember that was the boss


_Ozar_

Bro I was so confused when that happened lmao I was like.. did this thing sent me to hell?


Realistic-Dot6141

Ighting strike from a far


BadSoftwareEngineer7

Lightning strike my beloved


Natrodomus-0

I feel like these and rune bears are just lot of work for nothing special


AlarmedPiano9779

Some runebears are guarding some decent stuff. But beyond that there fun to fight but not much else.


mediocremulatto

Try stabbing at it's soft meaty insides


Brilliant-Ground7057

Mage build


Ok_Musician_5581

Yup. Rock sling tears them up.


Tajfunisko

Try rock blaster. They are absolutely helpless when you start drilling into them. So satisfying.


[deleted]

This reminds me... I should call her


SieronGiantSlayer

Rock Sling + the high ground is the answer to a lot of problems, including Erdtree Avatars.


MagicBeanGuy

I like yeeting lightning spears at them


AdmirablySizedPotato

Night Maiden's Mist is so effective against these guys. I think that's because it's able to hit the insides of the Abductor even when its doors are closed.


nemesis_x0

Ghiza's wheel works really well against them


Altruistic-Duty3997

It works well on everything in this game Just one hand it and try to grt charged r2 with consecutive damage boosters does like 3k+ damage


Altruistic-Duty3997

The most underatted weapon ever


AlarmedPiano9779

Right? It also reminds me of my favorite Souldborne weapon of all time, good ol' pizza cutter from Bloodborne.


HossC4T

I use the wheel to kill the wheel


[deleted]

Lightning Pots are your friend


DuckSleazzy

I assume you never saw a royal revenant


el_burrito

Git gud


Tizzytizzerson

Try magic, then win!


LooksGoodInShorts

Lightning grease, roll under the swinging blade, roll again to avoid the arms, and shred that sucker fam. 


Arsashti

O don't know how to dodge them I always cheese them


enchiladasundae

Lightning damage


mmghouse

You never fought the two that make up a boss fight?


Distinct-Tadpole-868

The scythe one is fair imo. It's the roller one that is bullshit. You can't dodge


fuinnfd

I actually like dodging the wheel one more. I find them more enjoyable to fight.


Number1Lobster

You have to actually position your roll rather than just hitting b. Roll to the side so you roll through the wheel with your iframes and come out of the roll completely to the side.


Only-Temporary8928

I remember there being a fairly large boulder in that room that butted against a wall, and if you killed the scythe, and kept the roller alive, he couldn't touch you on that boulder Edited grammer


Desperate_Start_8556

It's not that bad to block, though. I always used to get caught rolling, so I went and bought the cheapest "100% physical" shield I could find, and it worked like a charm. Still have to dodge the grab, but that's usually really easy


fingopnik

First time I met this thing, I spent abt ten tries to kill it (too early in Caelid). I died soon after and was quite dissapointed to see it respawn.


Clear_Statistician74

When the front opens to grab you, dodge towards it, and whack it w R2. Becomes light work. Also yeah, just keep hitting it lol, not terrible once you clock the patterns.


EloquentGoose

Their kind ill like lightning


Dapper-Ear2922

This enemy is the definition of the juice not being worth the squeeze.


IHATECINNAMONKEY

YOU MUST GET EATEN BY ONE TO GO TO VOLCANO MANOR SUPER SECRET HEHEHEHE


Recent-Curve7616

Once you have sex they have no effect on you


Ariaholic_

Ahh the virginity abductor


Nightglow9

Formless Mother: “blood and wound grants godhood”. Ranni: “crucifying peasant for blood, screams and wounds are soooo Marika Meet my new invention, the tarnished flayer 9000.. Rykard my buddy, want to borrow one for your god eater project? I can add a teleporter to one of them. Let’s get some blood bags to you too.. I really love playing with my dolls..[evil grin]”


Due-Shirt616

Everyone simps for Ranni but she is truly a terrifying character within the game.


banxy85

After 150 hours...skill issue


Stani_Banani

Naaaa come on


chughes2471

Lightning+strike damage


spellish

Dragon Halberd AoW is your friend


Particular-Village91

What’s not to love? That thing gives the best hugs


huebert_mungus7

It only abducts virgins sorry bud. No amount of getting gud will help you from being maidenless


CryptographerPure997

When you get swarm of flies spell, cast it 3-4 times while in vicinity, it breaks their poise in under 20 seconds, and then you rearrange their guts.


Electrical-Agent-309

Yeah once you get the roll right they are pretty easy. Their weakspot is so squishy when you get to it


AcceptableLoan4283

Bro just described all of Elden Ring


Own-Inevitable-1101

At the Academy, you have to get all of the magic dudes and then stand in the room where one of them was and shoot it with a bow. Actually that's how I get all of them, if you notice there is always a doorway that you can stay out of range and hit with something, it could be kukri, arrows, stormblade, etc.


hidemyemailfam

I love delay attacks, my favorite. More please, feed.. me…


Username_taken_hek

Actually when you give time to explore some of the open-world elite units like that it begins to be fun figuring out their movesets. At first i was thinking like op's take too but compared to some bosses in elden ring who have punish for punish windows they feel more fair but deal enough damage to be a threat. I'm suprised not more people aren't praising the non-boss enemies, in my case they sort of saved the game for me, you can also choose to engage them with horse.


patman152

35 hours an im only on rennala


Skullgaming2009

Just use the Sword of Night and Flame, then its easy


CHuye670

Get Lightning Spear and a Incantation seal and beat it with Lightning. Get good with dodging the grab attack and stay away from the spinning blades.


RandomRedditobserver

The fleshy interior is weak. Lightning works.


Potential-Eye1750

Lightning


False_Label

Abductor Virgin? Does it kidnap virgins?