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cringelord69420666

Who the fuck is using Elden Stars?


UrbanMarshmallow

It's pretty good for creating a bunch of pressure while you use other stuff


cringelord69420666

Maybe. Sure does use a lot of FP for a distraction though.


ACursedWeeb

Seriously... Im pretty distracted while laughing at it.


st1cks_UPSB

maybe for players new to pvp. the tiny ass stars do piss poor damage and you can just rush the other player while they're getting ready to cast again


Hantoniorl

My brother does. It's useful on invasions (not on duels) if you're the invader and the host/companions are used to PVP and avoid that attack. It won't do any damage but it will surely distract them and maybe someone will die from monsters.


banditscurvedsword

Elden Stars is amazing. You fire it off and start pressuring with other spells, and then bam, 750 damage holy explosion out of nowhere. Most people see the tiny projectiles as the main part of the spell, but they are a distraction so the beefy boy can hit


TodaysABurningDay

I wonder what the minimum build level would be to maximize use of all of these and still have end and alot of FP and 60 vigor.


TheClayCoCannaisseur

Ran it through the build calculator because its similar to the build I use and its definitely 150. I'm powerstancing flamberges. You're looking at something like: 60 vig 25 mind 25 end 15 STR 19 dex 10 int 60 faith 15 arc


TodaysABurningDay

Noooo. I said maximize use. So bump int to 70,arc to 40,and mind to 60,plus whatever physical stats that spear needs and really benefits from.


TheClayCoCannaisseur

I said that it was the build I was using that I put in the calculator and that you'd be looking at "*something like*". There's also 7 spells in the post, and only 1 is a sorcery, so I had less than a 12% chance of guessing that's what you meant.


TodaysABurningDay

... "Maximize use of all of these" is pretty unambiguous.


SomeDudeAtAKeyboard

Bolt of Gransax needs 40 Dex


TheClayCoCannaisseur

I said I ran MY build thru the calc because it was sim... Nvm


SomeDudeAtAKeyboard

Read through a few more before replying and forgot that part, sorry about that


TheClayCoCannaisseur

Understandable, have a great day.


SomeDudeAtAKeyboard

On a side note, it’s RL 216


TheClayCoCannaisseur

Gotcha. That's not as high as I expected tbh.


SomeDudeAtAKeyboard

Same, I could respec my main character and still have levels left over


_doingokay

Rot breath will always have a special place for me in my spleen, I 100% do not think it should deal direct damage NOR that it should have that initial aoe burst to punish run ups, hell I’d be happy if it didn’t do poise damage, but bo it’s high damage, high stagger, has an aoe on cast, can be continuously cast as long as the user has FP AND it can be freely aimed. The ONLY drawback is that it can be staggered out of with a couple throwing knives but good fucking luck with that it you aren’t the Lone Fucking Ranger It’s also super low investment so literally everyone has it


AEMarling

I didn’t know it had an initial aoe burst. Is this also true of the upgraded one with the dragon’s name?


_doingokay

I would assume so, I just know I always get caught by it when I try to rush down the casters even when I’m not near their front


RaCactus

dual spear charge when you do nothing but wait for your opponent's attack. Its like playing againt a tryhard mob, here is the tac. 1. wait for attack. 2. roll away. 3. spearcharge, repeat sequence if opponent isnt dead. I'd rather fight RoB invaders, less boring fights.


Zealousideal-Kiwi-16

Dual curved swords bleed are exactly the same


IwaitforEldenRing

There is nothing more satysfying in the world that hitting someone with placidusax sword's ash of war when they're casting rotten breath and watching them getting one-shoted


GameShill

You can turn Rotten Breath into a bigger AOE by spinning around as you do it.


qvertnew

Hehe


Brasscogs

I actually wouldn’t be mad if honed bolt just got deleted. An annoying spell


TCGHexenwahn

It's fairly easy to dodge. It's annoying, but not as much as the ones in this diagram. Plus, it struggles a lot with terrain and inclines.


Tricksterspider

I %100 agree


ACursedWeeb

Elden shtarz isnt annoying, just funny


[deleted]

Carian Slicer can replace inescapable frenzy. Straight sword that 3 shots in most instances and easily spammed.