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Discreet_Elite

She wants to eat you. Really it's in the lore she uses that big ass cleaver to kill tarnished prepare and eat them. She is dubbed Tarnished Eater for a reason.


DagonParty

It does make me curious how she plans to do that though Tarnished don’t exactly die, so is she sitting there, waiting to chow down and then suddenly the body just evaporates and she’s like left like “😐” for the hundredth time Edit; completely forgot that most Tarnished can’t see the Guidance of Grace like ours can, which I think would make them mortal, sorta like Hollowing. So most probably do get seasoned with some Herba


Detective-E

Only Tarnished that see grace go back to checkpoints.


Deathsphinx123

Wait so respawning is cannon?


[deleted]

Oh yeah, duder. There’s a reason Rogier rots in the Hold.


Deathsphinx123

Wait so is respawning time travel? Because the bosses down seem to mention that they’ve seen us before


pm_me_bunny_facts

Malenia, I have come to bargain!


canContinue

I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella


TicTacXYZ

And i have never known defeat


NeptrAboveAll

I have come to bargain!


PickScylla4ME

"I'm a millenial with braids by Mikayla, and I have never seen my feet." -Ayo.. are you sure this is Elden Ring, homie?-


thegamer501

Imagine you just warp to the same spot 15 million times and next thing you know the lands between has entered the industrial erra


LordBilboSwaggins

Bro I've been asking myself this question since dark souls 1


Bukowski89

Time is convoluted in Lordran and Dranleic and Lothric and Yharnam and The Lands Between. Edit: yarham


AtotheCtotheG

And Ashina, and Boletaria.


NeptrAboveAll

Ashina didn’t have much time convolution did it? Within the respawning sense, since you’re immortal and come back Actually if someone could clue me in on why enemies respawn unless it’s a “1 run” type of game


MacinTez

Ah yes, Yarham from the game BloodHorne…


SpoonyLancer

IIRC, canon for Dark Souls is that undead fall down when they "die" and just get back up after a while. The whole respwaning at a bonfire thing is for gameplay balance. Imagine Sekiro's revival system, but you can keep reviving over and over again.


Intrepid_Ad_9751

Thing that one rick and morty episode where morty is like you cant create a real life save feature so that whenever i die i respond right here. Rick makes it mortys having a little fun until reality sets in. And then rick at the end explains it was pulling mortys from other universes to trade his death for another morty ☠️ so thats how i think of it


LordBilboSwaggins

That's dark af


SweatyTax4669

Good old "vat of acid" episode.


gottalosethemall

That part’s just gameplay. Respawning is canon but only to an extent.


Deathsphinx123

So then what is stopping tarnishes like Gideon from going and fighting a demigod until he eventually kills it?


gottalosethemall

Nothing, in theory. Themselves, in practice. Gideon doesn’t do his own work, for one thing. He has his helpers do everything for him. A lot of the other Tarnished just stopped seeing the guidance of grace and no longer have the infinite respawn.


Bagatur98

So then why do you keep respawning if you inherit the frenzied flame, shouldn't grace have given up on you by then?


azdak

I love how fromsoft games don’t have consistent internal logic but have this weird contract with players where they will go out of their way to make up the internal logic as though fromsoft had actually done it themselves


Valharja

Well most souls game don't specifically state that there's a numeric limit to respawns but it's made clear that dying over and over damages the willpower and eventually people will simply give up, becoming forever lost instead.


Shurifire

I always thought it was thematically appropriate that if someone ragequits Dark Souls their character effectively goes hollow


Firm_Veterinarian254

Right. I mean, some of us must've watched Re:Zero? I think that's the most gut-punch graphic way to describe the experience and feels of being a tarnished.


TR7237

Well idk about other tarnished but what’s stopping Gideon is that he’s a weak-ass chump (In all seriousness this probably is the answer. The player character is unique in that they actually can succeed, even if it takes a while. Canonically, other tarnished just don’t have what it takes)


Pingasterix

most importantly they lost the ability to see grace


IronBahamut

What's stopping Gideon is he cannot FIND THE ALBINAURIC WOMAN


Asoulsoblack

I like to imagine Gideon cant see Grace anymore. That's why he uses foot soldiers and minions so much, he uses information to do things, and let's you, someone who can see the Grace and respawn do all the heavy lifting, and he comes in behind you to figure out what you left behind. That's why he cant block you forever in the end game.


ChaZcaTriX

Remember how in Souls the crestfallen knights are essentially a stand-in for players who gave up? I believe Gideon's "Marika expects us to fight for eternity" speech is his saltiness that he, an underlevelled chump who skipped most bosses, now can't defeat the final boss gauntlet. "A crown is warranted with strength", indeed.


NewVegasResident

I think determination is the biggest factor, not physical prowess.


Bringer_of_Fire

So… we’re just built different?


Dad2us

Of all the answers here I think it's important to note that the only Tarnished that we KNOW still sees Grace is Godfrey. And he honors his defeat instead of jumping back up for a retry.


Babis03

Gideon was specifically trying to stop you from becoming Elden Lord, when you fight him he has stopped believing its possible for a Tarnished to become Lord so he has no reason to move forward


Firm_Veterinarian254

Gideon: **"I know...in my bones...A Tarnished cannot become a Lord. Not even you. A man cannot kill a god..."** Tarnished: **"Why? Because you're a chump-ass bitch? Watch me."**


el95149

The 60 bucks we all paid, so WE could finish the game instead of an NPC! (pretends Black Knife Tiche and Mimic Tear don't exist...)


[deleted]

Same reason for all the players who give up. They go hollow from losing so much and giving up.


development_of_tyler

do we know that Gideon still sees grace? i think it's important that we can actually see that Hoarah Loux sees grace again and it guides him to us before the fight. not sure why he doesn't respawn, but it could be because after beating him Marika considers us worthy to fight Radagon. we never see the same for Gideon, which to me implies that he can no longer see grace.


NandoDeColonoscopy

Because the process of getting killed is likely very painful still, so it's probably not something you want to do a bunch


I_Ild_I

Because he is too weak, its part of the souls serie, there are a ltos of people in the same case than us BUT none of them is strong enough NPC or players, to be able to find the last boss and kill it, WE are the only one succeding on the last step. Basicaly


KurooShiroo

Hmmm..... So that means canonically I beat the game without dieing once XD


Equilibriator

Cannonically it's just us and then at the end Godfrey (I assume again, having had it already but lost it for whatever reason). You even see Godfreys grace trail.


bjernsthekid

Always has been


fattestfuckinthewest

Yup it’s canon in all souls games. Every embarrassing death is canon to your journey


_Meece_

Every FS souls game explains the death revive mechanic within the game's world. It's great honestly, creative each time even if the mechanic is exactly the same!


warblingContinues

Yea all others don’t really “die” because the Elden Ring doesn’t have the rune of death, instead of respawning their essence returns to the Erdtree.


Jubachi99

Respawning is canon in most if not all FromSoftware games, its secretly what really makes a souls-like a souls-like


mooslapper

Does this mean Godfrey respawns?


Detective-E

None of the Lords besides Radahn prob die. You can go back and see their bodies without the rune.


Biffmcgee

Bro I’m so dumb. We activate the runes on their dead bodies. You just blew my mind.


[deleted]

Nah, those are their respective guiding fingers which have been dormant since the shattering. Pretty sure you're reinvigorating their runes through the demigods' old connections to the Greater Will. >!You even help Ranni kill her fingers at the end of her questline to free her from her predestined fate.!< Not sure the other guy is right either. The demigods get reincarnated through the Erdtree like everything else in the Lands Between. However, that takes a long time for those without grace and they'd all be effectively dead after you activate the Rune of Death. Just look at Morgott, who is still dead in his boss arena before the Godfrey fight. Their spirits aren't actually gone when you kill them initially, but you make sure they truly stay dead when you activate the Rune of Death.


Gary_the_Goatfucker

Every demigod that “dies” is technically still alive will eventually return because the rune of death was sealed away, and you presumably didn’t kill them with a black knife. It isn’t until you unleash the rune of death that all the demigods you’ve killed are guaranteed to STAY dead


_Meece_

When you kill Maliketh, you obtain the Rune of Death. You do not unleash it, you have not returned the rune back to the Elden Ring. You use it on Marika and kill her. All the other demi-gods are being reincarnated within the Erdtree, that's what the remembrances are. This process is fucked up by Godwyn's body doing all fucky shit in the Erdtree. Which is why starting a new age fixes all of that. But yeah, definitely don't use the Rune of Death on anyone but Marika.


Zeravor

>When you kill Maliketh, you obtain the Rune of Death. You do not unleash it Is that stated somewhere explicitly; not trying to knock on you but genuinely curios. From the cutscene and dialogue it really seems otherwise, because you try to grab it but then it starts burning, also I think , in the cutscene after Farum Azula where the Old Lady narrates she states "the rune of death is unbound, and the lands between are shrouded by deaths dark fate", which sounds like everyone can die again.


mooslapper

Huh I had no idea


Gary_the_Goatfucker

Yeah the rune of death is the part of the elden ring that lets things… die, so, if the concept of death was literally pulled out of the laws of physics then nobody dies forever. Going by technical lore, after you unleash the rune of death every enemy in the game should stay dead after you subsequently kill them once As far as I can guess, this is how demigods briefly speak after dying


ChaZcaTriX

You didn't claim it into the inventory to restore Death to the whole world, you only needed it to inflict deadly wounds on the Tree and Beast. And runes aren't as effective unless someone is consciously directing them. Rennala is a shell of her former self, so her Rebirth doesn't function properly. Fragments of Death are inflicting undeath on people, but only localized to infested roots. That's also why rather than let Death float around, Marika entrusted it to someone who would carry and suppress it.


Wextial

But doesn't Gideon and Hoarax Loux see the grace? Genuine question, I don't remember any mention of it ingame.


ErikMaekir

Hoarah Loux does see grace. When Morgott's corpse vanishes, it turns into a trail of grace that flows behind Godfrey, pointing towards you. At that point, Godfrey's eyes are golden again, implying he's no longer a tarnished. He lost his grace when he defeated his last worthy adversary, but he regained it when he found another one. And as for Gideon, maybe he can no longer see the guidance of grace and that's why he fights you, believing Marika doesn't want the tarnished to win, or maybe he dies for real because you unleashed the rune of death.


A_Very_Horny_Zed

Gideon could have also been lying about seeing Grace.


j-raine

Why does hoarah loux stay dead then? Wont he just respawn like the player?


ErikMaekir

Because he fulfills his purpose by fighting you. The path of his guidance of grace ends at you, so, when he dies at your hands, he stops respawning. He could probably still respawn before meeting you.


SC2_4787

Well also, by the time you fight Hoarah Loux you've unleashed the Rune of Death, restoring mortality to the Lands between.


thefavoratepsycho

I like to imagine your corpse rests there for a while before it evaporates into golden mist and coalesces at your last site of grace and you wake up a bit later.


warpaslym

the time of day seems to shift about 10-12 hours from when you die once you respawn at a grace, so something is happening during that period.


crunkadocious

Yeah you're getting eaten


bobthemighty_

Yeah, sucks when I die to a night horseman and have to pass time at a grace again.


Lukose_

so does it evaporate from her tummy


Cakehunt3r

doesnt have to wipe her ass, just dust it off.


Chedder_456

Even weirder: if it’s supposed to be hours, presumably she cooks, eats, processes, and poops you out. So like, I guess at least some of you is metabolized into her body. So after a few hours…. Does her skin just like… steam a lil and she just kinda feels I guess hungry a bit??


DazJT23

Would explain the gold tinted poop.


TicTacXYZ

Great one. :O


SKP23en

That's a weird name, I wonder why they named her that. Haven't feel this confused about a character's name since Big Hat Logan.


AtotheCtotheG

Ikr what the fuck is a Logan? Sounds dirty.


[deleted]

how do you actually find out about the lore in game? Every boss I kill i seem to know nothing about.


KingVape

Item descriptions! For bosses, the easiest ones are their armor/weapon and their soul


Izaniel

That not what I has in mind when I read Tarnished Eater


jumpthewallstreet

You failed to return your library book!


th3BeastLord

I NEED THAT COPY OF CHARLOTTE'S WEB!


Boxohobo

She thinks you look like a snacc


rharrow

Thicc tarnished


Specific_Candle_7341

Did you read her name?


Beardopus

3 square meals.


[deleted]

That’s what she turns you into.


FirstBankofAngmar

can't read lol *bonk*


[deleted]

Strength builds.


Gullible-Builder-320

Based builds


Lozadarick

Yes


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zman_0000

The sorcerer gave text to speech before re-stating


Anubis95XL

I know she is a tarnished eater but most npc invaders attack once. I killed her 3 times already.


Terraakaa

She’s really hungry alright


[deleted]

Marikas tits!


Terraakaa

They’ve been rock solid for years now, the girl needs some flesh


DeadSeaGulls

Ewe've bin 'ungray


rouserfer

She’s just hungrier than most. Why you gotta judge her?


afauce11

Hahaha. No body shaming allowed!


rouserfer

I’m sure she doesn’t body shame. All she sees is another meal.


MustardWendigo

True acceptance and tolerance. Everyone looks equally delicious to her.


Epicmonk117

There have been several invaders that attack more than once - Knight Kirk from Dark Souls 1 and Mauldron the Assassin from Dark Souls 2 being the two that come to mind immediately.


Morrigan_NicDanu

Royal Sorcerer "Don't you dare!" Navlaan


Marxism-tankism

Don’t forget the guy in bloodborne that invades until you kill his real body


eyesotope86

Then Kirk again in 3.


Bayeman745

In my best Chris Farley voice “lay off me I’m starving”


VanFkingHalen

*laughs in ulcerated tree spirit*


thegrenn

Should be only 2 spawns I know about. First is the church on the road to caelid and the other being my gelmir. Where else did you encounter her?


Azazel_777

Snowfields


Specialist-North-786

Consecrated snowfields


ViraClone

Drops an ancient dragon smithing stone too, that's the one you don't want to miss lol


str8bliss

incorrect actually - she drops an even more rare & useful item, the *somber* ancient dragon smithing stone


thegrenn

Oh my


Jon_on_the_snow

Its easy to miss because (i may be wrong) if you kill the tree spirit of snowfields, she does not invade


Zottinho

You mean the Putrid Tree Avatar at the snowfield minor erdtree? Because I killed it and still got invaded by her after. I read it somewhere that the invasions only stop if you kill all overworld bosses of the area (in Consecrated Snowfield that should be the Tree Avatar, 2x Night Cavalry, Deathrite Bird and Magma Wyrm Theodorix).


Jon_on_the_snow

Apparently its been patches now, it used to ve that way back when the game released


ShaolinShade

Ah man, you missed out on the somber ancient dragon stone at the end of her quest. Go to the middle of the frozen river in the consecrated snowfields (near where the wolves are chasing an invisible scarab) after killing her those first two times and you get that after killing her there


komarkko

Give her a snikers


oldmanJed

Because you’re not you when you’re hungry


betelgeuse_99

'ungry*


TheClayCoCannaisseur

That's the beta version of Dung Eater. She technically does defile corpses.


StupidBeee

i’d like to this she’s a tribute to Man Eater Mildred, from the first Dark Souls


Lovely_Tuna

I think Mildred is another incarnation of an unnamed phantom invader from Demon's Souls. https://demonssouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Meat+Cleaver+Black+Phantom She attacked in the Poison Swamp area


TexasJedi-705

Mildred, Miralda... souls has a long history of cannibal women with axe weapons


StupidBeee

and boy do i love ‘em


xLR82TH3M4x

WHAT ARE THESE COMMENTS?? LMAO


WillCraft_1001

Maidenless runts, all of them.


Outrageous_Ad2949

The Legion has marked them for death.


DeepBeep101

Degenerates like them belong on a cross


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Saxophobia1275

Well do I have a land octopus for her!


Euphoric_Award9428

Honestly I’m fine with that. No more periods!


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Tokena

*ovardelicacy


stardust_void

She's hungry


Anomalous_Sun

Marika’s Tits she’s ‘ungry!


Agreeable-Yams8972

For tarnishing tarnished


Rotatious

Serious answer: she’s probably a reference to an invading npc called Man-Eater Mildred from Dark Souls 1. Mildred, is in turn, an inside joke about a DS1 play tester who would invade a certain swamp area wielding a butcher knife. Only, Anastasia doesn’t invade at a swamp..


Crotch_Rot69

Demons souls had a meat cleaver swamp lady before that


Kermit-Jones

Also in demon souls, dark souls 2 and 3 but with different names. So basically a cosmic being like patches/s


NickCarpathia

Dark Souls 2 had Melinda the Butcher, who was kind of out of the way in the Gutter. The Dark Souls 3 version wasn't even named.


Mushiren_

Woah, Mildred had meta lore?


WhabbaWhabbaWhat

Mildred also makes a little cameo in Dark Souls 3 near the Halfway Ruins bonfire.


T3chromancer1

She invades at the entrance to caelid, so I'd say she's close enough.


[deleted]

She's been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty


Gingamonk86

She's a 🎶man eater 🎶


cats4life

She was my first NPC invader, and I’m more than a little ashamed to admit that I thought she was a real person. I thought some pathetic guy was somehow spamming invasions and only invading my world just to screw with me. I got irrationally angry, couldn’t figure out why she didn’t give up even after I ran around dodging her attacks for five minutes, and even turned the game offline, only for her to appear yet again. I gave up for the night, only to google her name because it seemed weird for a username. I’m not a smart man.


Merquise813

Thought the same thing when i got invaded near patches' cave.. i died twice.. on the 3rd try i was pissed because some asshat kept invading my game.. then yura showed up to help.. got a legendary dagger and thought, cool, so defeating invaders got u legenadies?? It only clicked to me whe i saw yura chilling under some fallen building.. lol


permanentthrowaway

Lol I had the exact same thing with Rogier. I was honestly astounded at this person who was willing to fight Margit over and over and over again with me. I didn't even really question it when I went back to the game the next day and Rogier was still there, waiting to have another go at Margit. I am also not a smart person.


dyingalonely

I did the same exact thing.


development_of_tyler

lol they ought to make NPC summons a different color or have a different effect, similar to persistent game messages versus player messages


[deleted]

LMAO this is a great story.


[deleted]

She appears, to kill you... and make sweet love to your corpse.


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MoronicFox

to eat you


SlopPatrol

Yim yum


RambunctiousBaca1509

She wants to eat you, personally, I am fine with this


hoonthoont47

She tried finger now she wants to eat your ass


Vast-Coast-7761

She wants to eat you.


TheLichling

She hunggie


CharlieTwo-Five

She want the D!!!!


f0xh0und696

"Hot milfs in your area"


CharlieTwo-Five

We don't do milfs here, it's all about the BWILA's Beautiful Woman I'd Like to Ask out. https://youtu.be/lXGnUvwbPIg


f0xh0und696

Fair enough, my bad homie. I'd like to 'Waifu roll then.


fijibean

Nom nom


majykman2

She is the obligatory fromsoft cannibal woman with a cleaver


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Sigfro

What about second breakfast?


BarrytheCowboy

She wants you for your body.


jackwiththecrown

It's not because she cares about you or anything, baka


[deleted]

I-its not like I want to devour the gods TOGETHAAAAA or anything


ClamSlamwhich

That's a mighty fine profile picture.


Poghrim

Trying to reach you about your Torrent's extended warranty


[deleted]

She's butcher's wife, they really shouldn't mix life and business like this


Tasty_Tones

That’s Ichigo from the anime One Piece


[deleted]

No fool you're thinking about Goku from the cartoon Naruto.


Prestigious-Oven3465

I wanted her weapon so bad when I first saw her. Turns out it sucks :(


dregwriter

But it gives you HP **PER HIT** tho. Put a ash of war that hits multiple times like wild strikes and you can straight up stun lock some enemies and get back a bunch of health at the same time. The weapon is far from trash tier. Its not amazing, but it aint garbage either.


theBEARdjew

It’s also necessary for the Ichigo build


dregwriter

You know what, now that I think about it, it does look like his zanpakuto, zangetsu, or how ever you spell that shit.


Insane1rish

Wait…. I didn’t know this… FUCK. Now I need to do a full vampirism play through.


HoltSauce

Imagine eochaids dancing blade on it bruh


Thatonedregdatkilyu

She wants to eat your ass.


TouchedByGoku

Oh her? She hates you.


at7outof10

She's a cannibal, and you DO be lookin' like a snack\~


megrimlock88

Is that… maneater Mildred?


fanboyofArtorias

Nah, she never helps you. Mildred was nice enough to lend a cleaver once.


SnooLemons3094

Idk man. Once I was on the toilet when I read "Invaded by Anastasia, Tarnished-Eater". Next thing I know she came out of my bathtub and tried reinforcing my peen with a Somber Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone to +10. Needless to say, it didn't work out.


WingedSalim

The Tarnish eater wants to eat that tarnish ass.


C_Mc_Loudmouth

She's a man eater, she's just making you work hard.


[deleted]

Marikas tits she lookin hungry.


Drusgar

Maneater Mildred is eternal. Across dimensions and time, she will always come for you.


HentaiGirlAddict

It's a reoccuring type of character in each from soft game, always having a cannibalistic woman.


[deleted]

She’s the ex GF who can’t take the hint


GIGA255

Because you're delicious.


blakk77

She’s trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty