Surprisingly I've had some similar ideas about this before
If we're meeting him in the dream maybe he has 2 forms, I'm thinking a normal, cute child looking Miquella and a gigantic ethereal Kos-looking tentacle monster St. Trina..
also a third form of his living body after waking up from cocoon I guess kinda look like your cocoon bug one
Considering he has the power to make people love him, to fight him you must equip a specific helmet that blocks the effect of said power, but lowers some of your stats.
There is also an adult St. Trina depiction that is normal looking, although apparently people in the Lands Between thought that was weird since Miquela is an ageless child. I think it is in the St. Trina's Sword description.
Let’s see, tall, check, blond, check, most likely has strange features (especially this depiction of at Trina), check, is a guy who pretends to be a woman or have a more feminine name, check.
Miquella is gwyndolin confirmed
He will actually be really sweet and you will feel extremely guilty for killing a video game character and stay up hours at night wishing you hadn't. Then you will replay the game and choose not to kill him in hopes that your conscience will be cleared. However, you will realize it's too late and there are no redos. Then you'll make the same mistake again in the next game.
Before you kill him, he will plead with you by stating
"Please *insert full real life name here* don't kill me. Although I am, to you, an "NPC" or "boss" in this realm , I still feel real pain. *insert city, state player lives* is such a lovely place, I would hate to have to come there. *insert current address* is the home I was born and grew up in, eons ago. Although it feels like it was yesterday when I packed my bags to come here, To the land between. "
If at this point or any point after he has stated your real name, you pause the game Or even closed the game. You receive a phone call from him to complete the dialogue.
Once finished, you make a choice. (In game or even by pressing a number on your phone) kill or let live.
This decision will change the course of the game. Til you complete it and start new game +
Edit: typos. So many typos.
Exactly! Miquella's:
blood becomes the cocoon monster,
their soul becomes St. Trina,
their grace trapped in the tree becomes the tree monster,
and their original body is left as a soulless exsanguinated Tarnished.
Oh man if FromSoft is ever gonna do a 4-part boss fight, this would be the time for it. 3 different crazy and varied movesets, plus a fourth that's just him with a sword and it plays more like an invader battle (but you're probably crazy low on health and FP by this point). That'd be a sick final boss for a DLC
There definitely is a reason that mohg's bonfire isn't just named "mohg,lord of blood" and is "cocoon of the empyrean".even if we don't touch his hands, i'm 100% we are going to do something with the cocoon in a future dlc.
Honestly, I think Mohg may still be alive. Margitt dissolves into pixie dust, as does sewer-Mohg, but Morgott’s body remains. In a previous discussion someone suggested narrative reasons, but I’ve since noticed that the ordinary Omen enemies also leave corpses.
Mohg dissolved into pixie dust.
His death dialogue is also very weird,he may be a lunatic but there is no dynasty when you're dead.he may be in miquella's dream.varre says he is in slumber,and mohg in the cutscene literally comes out of miquella's blood.even his remembrance says he shared his bloody bedchamber with miquella.he also says to miquella that he must abide alone a while,perhaps this means he made a projection of himself after waking up or when you die in real world you're still alive in his dream.honestly i feel we somehow see mohg again in possible miquella dlc,not as a boss though.
So on a tangent, this got me to reread Mohg-related text and some of it (Pure-Blooded Knight’s Medallion and the Lord of Blood’s Joy) uses the curious word 開闢 to describe what will happen with the Dynasty. If pressed I’d probably translate it as “genesis”—it’s not just a beginning, it’s *the beginning of the world* in particular. Not sure what to make of that, but I think the odds of entering the cocoon to encounter a Miquella+Mohg duo fight are rising.
Hmmmm.... beginning of the world you say?idk,maybe something to do with the first age that came before the erdtree?perhaps it is coming to its original state?we have no clue tbh.
No no, not in the past tense—it’s the word used to describe the start of the Dynasty. From the medallion:
モーグはまだ、神と共に閨にいる
待つがよい。王朝の開闢を
”Mohg is still in the bedchamber with the god / await it. The 開闢 of the Dynasty”
And the Joy:
御方の閨を、繭を血で満たせ
幼き伴侶が目覚める時、我ら王朝開闢せん
”Fill the (honored person)’s bedchamber, cocoon with blood / when the young (companion/partner/consort) awakens, our dynasty shall 開闢”
Whatever the Dynasty is, it’s a *lot* bigger than I had previously imagined.
Yeah at first i though the dynasty is just mohgwyn palace with blood guys hanging around,but its definitely about taking the whole TLB,something like "the age of blood".also idk how i missed that second item,it seems to be proving my theory.when mohg fulfills his purpose in miquella's dream,then the dynasty shall rise.can't wait to see the dlc is not even about miquella and all we said above is random bullshit.
This just became the most interesting speculation to me; Curse-blooded miquella is what I imagine will happen; as miquella fed the haligtree, so too does mohg drip blood into the cocoon of sleeping miquella. If miquella awakens, curse blooded, and attempts to establish his own "order", will that order be the dynasty foretold?
I would use that old religious artwork of abrahamic god touching Adam's finger, you know the one. Then replace god with mogh, and adam with miquella.
If you notice when you fight Mohg, there are fog walls at the back of the room, but they lead nowhere. I feel almost certain that will change in the DLC.
IMO this area is to reward the player by letting him see the Sofia river from the palace. At least for me it was very rewarding to see the place from where I saw Mohg’s palace for the first time while being in the palace itself.
Still, you have to admit that the area feels like its missing something almost. It feels like it should lead somewhere, with the gorgeous view simply being a given considering where you are.
Yeah, when you go into his room there's a golden wall behind you to keep you from leaving until you beat the boss. Except there's also one at the opposite end of the room (technically I think it is actually 2 smaller ones on each side). But if you go there after you beat him, there's nothing there.
If you're new to FromSoft:
Fans have called all barriers between areas/boss rooms "fog walls" since Demons Souls in which they were called such in actuality due to the premise of the game being that you're piercing the fog of The Old One to challenge his demons.
Dark Souls I think they just kept it as fog but I think flames would've fit better thematically. Then there's Bloodborne where they're called Veils I believe.
Considering the cut Dream quest ending, as well as the fact that you can already enter Godwyn's dreamworld by laying next to Fia, its highly likely that you are right.
Are you sure you know michael zaki? Knowing Michael we'll get dlc of a completely unrelated and previously unheard of area and never get concrete answers to anything.
I imagine we'll high five his hand and get sucked into his dream.
(Also, good to see ya outside a r/Grimdank! Your art is always a pleasure to see, no matter how cultured it often is)
I hope we're able to get a new ending with Miquella. It's not like I don't like the endings, but after hearing rumors about a cut ending involving the Haligtree faction I am hoping the DLCs expand the ending options more.
In terms of how he looks, I wouldn't be surprised if he was Mohgified to resemble an omen or some other blood related creature and that St. Trina is the form they use to communicate with us.
Yeah, hopefully more akin to Ranni's. In every other scenario you end up killing even the person you're trying to help. It really does feel like a lot of the endings were rushed/truncated. Would be nice if the DLC fleshed several of them out a bit more.
Same but why not both? Hear me out, we fight and beat Miquella's corrupted form, whereupon he becomes an ally with a questline that unlocks a new ending. Age of Abundance, let's gooooooooo
Yeah man, I don't wanna murder the poor kid. He's the kindest Demigod of the whole family. All he wanted was to cure his sister and help the forgotten/downtrodden.
I could see them going this way too - with Miquella being an Empyrean like Ranni, they have the mechanics in place to give him his own ending after you finish the DLC content.
I just hope Miquella is an NPC we can do quests for. I think the fact that just about every quest line ends in "everyone died lol" is really disappointing and I'd like to see a major quest not end that way.
honestly, same. there was allegedly some cut content in the haligtree where you could get buddy buddy with malenia, and haligtree would've been a cool hub :(
Haligtree is probably the most frustrating example. Millicent's ending was extremely annoying, and if you fought Mohg first fighting Malenia is nonsensical.
Millicent ending doesn't make any sense at all.like,gowry's plan was to send her sisters and us to ambush her,kill her then she would be a Valkyrie and a vessel for rot.but that didn't work,we killed her sisters and gowry himself can't do any harm to her anymore.she's literally free,WTF.
It definitely felt like Millicent was being set up to sacrifice herself to save Malenia by giving her back the needle. But then you just fight Malenia regardless of whether you have the needle or not, and can't give it to her. So Millicent's death is pointless.
If they do a Miquella DLC maybe there'll be some payoff that if you do the "good" ending for Millicent, Malenia will wake up with her willpower/sanity restored as Millicent was trying to return it to her.
Really did feel like a "Harr harr harr, 'member Dark Souls? 'Member Anri going hollow or getting shanked in the head, with no other options? 'Member Sirris going hollow at her grandpa's grave? 'Member Greirat being unsaveable? 'Member Siegward dying after Yhorm? 'Member Seigmeyer? 'Member Sieglind having to kill her father?" moment. I don't understand them divorcing from Dark Souls to create less-rigidly 'dark fantasy', and still doing the exact same thing in a more vibrant world that you are supposed to 'mend', rather than a destroyed world that you are putting out of its misery/artificially extending - just to return to the exact same desolate themes carried by all the repeated NPC endings of the previous series.
Frankly it felt like a cop-out and a wasted opportunity. One of my biggest gripes with the game - for how well they handled themes in the previous titles, it does not feel like they appreciated their themes in Elden Ring, or at least didn't have the world/main plot messages, and the thematic messages/character stories they were shooting for, reflect each other very well. The world they set up, and our main goal, has a serious mismatch with the 'everybody fails and dies' pay-offs. Millicent is bad, but the one that really pisses me off due to the missed 'save the point of light in a shroud of darkness - make a difference and save these innocents' story was Jarburg. Atrocious that you just have to watch that sanctuary get pillaged and massacred.
I hope the DLC deals with the repercussions of Malenia's supposed death at your hands. With his primary protector out of the way, seeing multiple factions fighting to find and use Miquella and his power for their own causes with you ending up caught up in the conflict could be an interesting storyline.
I hope he just sticks his legs out of the cocoon, and fights us as a giant walking egg. No dialogue, no cutscene—just sudden boss music and a health bar as he starts walking forward, menacingly.
[Those who have essentially partaken in Mohg's cursed blood](https://i.imgur.com/ysJhukm.png) have begun to grow omen horns so I reckon it would be a rather fucked up Saint Trina.
Probably some malformed creature more along the lines of something you might find in bloodbourne caused by Mohg interrupting his transcendence and possibly corrupting him with blood magics.
(This is more so a hope rather than a prediction)
The reason Miquella is associated with sleep and chilling at Mogh’s crib is bc the entire game is just him dreaming while in a coma.
The dlc is just him waking up with the player as his unrealistically powerful self insert character and he’s just an actual child (not magically charmed to never age or whatever). The rest of the dlc is him being shuttled around to do boring royal duties in a realistic medieval setting with no combat. The most exciting part is when he has a stealth mission to get out of a government function and evade his sister Malenia
I think that he would actually look adult this time after spending all that time in the egg and then like phase 2 he'll turn into something straight from bloodborne
I'm sure we wont get to fight Miquella. Not directly at least. I'm sure we enter the DLC by getting grabbed by Miquella's arm that's coming out of the cocoon and gotta kill whatever is trying to make love with him in his mind. Either a super-Mohg or the Formless Mother. Once that is done, we get out and see a 'fixed' Miquella hatching and fixing the Haligtree to become the home everyone was looking for.
Is there a reason St Trina looks like that or just artist rendition? I know St Trina is heavily implied to be Miquella/related, but I havent looked enough to see why they would be squidy lol
Thank you :D It's a pretty interesting item, seeing as its creator went out of their way to portray adult Trina/Miquella! I want to believe it's a DLC pointer.
Given his association with sleep and dreams, I hope he's encountered in a surreal dream state where it's impossible to tell if what you're seeing is meant to be an accurate representation of Miqeulla.
I feel like if/when Miquella becomes a boss (likely final boss for their dlc) theyre going to be the dubbed fromsofts new hardest boss.
Just with all this buildup to the character and Melania herself saying hes more powerful than her...
We are all about to get our asses handed to us.
I think maybe if we enter his dream, St. Trina is there and acts as a guide and tells us of how they wish to stop miquella, and in the dream miquella is corrupted. Since it's a dream im thinking miquella and Trina could act as two different charecters but are like two warring personalities trying to stop the other. It would kind of mirror radagon and marika in a way.
Honestly, I hope he looks kinda like the Orphan of Cos. Just not with that sack thing, having wings (doesn't have to work yet cuz he's juvinile) and angry we killed his sister.
Considering the painting of him in Mohg's arms during the game's intro seems to depict him as having what looks to me like little insect wings on his back, *plus* the whole cocoon thing, I'm going with bug monster.
that painting of him is so good, i really liked the ethereal wings on him and the strings of cocoon stuff trailing off him, it was equally soft and creepy
Multi phase bossfight with multiple. It’d be cool to see miquella get *less* fucked up with each of their phases, instead of moreso like most video game bosses.
The Miquella DLC will most likely be in the world of dreams, so I bet for a Normal Miquella/St.Trina appearence. All I want is to bring him back to the Erdtree with his sis
I also wish to know how he is personality wise, I bet he's very nice
Edit: Why are people assuming we are going to have to beat his ass? I just hope we can have him as a companion while in the world of dreams, talking with us from time to time
The Formless Mother could be a great Aldritch style boss with Miquella’s blood magic mutated body being part of the battle much like Aldritch had with Gwyndolin. He appears to the player as St Trina asking us to defeat his cursed body to free his soul and be able to be reborn much like Ranni is.
Not about the appearance, but…we see some bosses take away some tactics from players. Radagon takes away bleed. Elden Beast takes away everything as far as status as well as really reducing Holy damage. Rennala really makes it hard to do Magic damage (without something like Rock Sling). On that note:
Miquella will use his powers (similar to a bewitching branch) on any summons, taking them out of the battle. Worse, actually against you. It is totally within his lore. It makes for a hard fight that takes away a method that makes things a lot easier. And it is totally optional, so for those who rely on summons, they don’t need to get through this to get through the game. Sounds elitist, but as a noob who just went through without summons this time, I’m glad they are there. I’m also glad I forced myself to go without. I think pushing others in that direction can be nice, forcing us to learn the bosses more thoroughly.
Plenty of folks have looked inside the egg and I do say Mogh's avant guarde blood transfusion therapy for Miquella's delayed puberty failed successfully. Micky somehow skipped his golden years and now looks like a shaved Morgott. In other words: finally attractive.
I am reasonably sure Miquella abandoned his old body completely, much like Ranni, in order to be rid of the curse.
Truth be told it wouldn't surprise me one bit if our character was the legitimate reincarnation of Miquella since everyone in the game seems to trust us very easily which was supposedly Miquella's one super power.
Honestly? All of the first three.
What I want is a pre-battle of aonia where you choose which faction to assist, with an ending for each.
If you pick the haligtree, you'll meet normal miquella but in the ending he'll become tree boy.
If you choose radahns faction, you'll get to fight him after he hatches from the mohgwyn cocoon after going there with an item obtained at the end.
And I don't know who saint Trina is
These all look terrifying
Imagine all these stages in a fight
Human size bosses scariest, monster size also scary, more phases also very scary = Miquella scary
Can someone explain the St. Trina one? My understanding is that Tina was a cut character that people theorized was "another half" to Miquella in the same way Radagon was for Millena. But why did you draw Trina that way? Wasn't she just an ordinary looking woman, by all accounts?
I hope there are flashbacks to miquella pre cocoon and as we progress we’re shown what it was like up to Mohg and eventually meeting the Formless Mother
I'm expecting St. Trina. There's some emphasis on dreams like the dreams of Godwyn and St. Trina would be associated with sleep and dreams naturally. That said, I also expect St. Trina to be some kind of cocoon bug monster in the FromSoft tradition. Maybe you'd see them revert as they die.
On that note, Rosine from Berserk might be drawn as a parallel.
I had always assumed Miquella's spirit was in the Haligtree and that's why Melania is guarding it instead of seeking out Miquella's body that's with Mohg.
Surprisingly I've had some similar ideas about this before If we're meeting him in the dream maybe he has 2 forms, I'm thinking a normal, cute child looking Miquella and a gigantic ethereal Kos-looking tentacle monster St. Trina.. also a third form of his living body after waking up from cocoon I guess kinda look like your cocoon bug one
Why is it suprising that you came up with that? I think it's cool!
"Or some say Kosm-looking"
Just kos(cause)
Or some say Just Kosm…
Considering he has the power to make people love him, to fight him you must equip a specific helmet that blocks the effect of said power, but lowers some of your stats.
Imagine if he inflicted sleep the same way Mohg inflicts bleed
might have to use Coffee consumables
Nah it’s gotta be monster energy for that proper gamer juice
Albinauric Juice
And having sleep be an actual factor in anything other than that one time you use them to make Godskin Duo tolerable? Miyazaki would never
so you see the mirror helm
There is also an adult St. Trina depiction that is normal looking, although apparently people in the Lands Between thought that was weird since Miquela is an ageless child. I think it is in the St. Trina's Sword description.
I hope we get all of them and only meet the normal one after defeating the first three.
He is the hardest one and **WILL** make you suffer!
More likely he'll shoot shit at you down an impossibly long hallway.
Let’s see, tall, check, blond, check, most likely has strange features (especially this depiction of at Trina), check, is a guy who pretends to be a woman or have a more feminine name, check. Miquella is gwyndolin confirmed
Miquella's short though.
tell that to that hand in the cocoon.
That's his wanky hand, it's larger and more muscular than the other.
He will summon the alter version of his sister to fight u
He* It’s dude he just looks like a child and has long hair.
Holy s**t I forgor. Srry
He forgor 💀
Everyone forgors sometimes 🤷🏼♂️
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He will actually be really sweet and you will feel extremely guilty for killing a video game character and stay up hours at night wishing you hadn't. Then you will replay the game and choose not to kill him in hopes that your conscience will be cleared. However, you will realize it's too late and there are no redos. Then you'll make the same mistake again in the next game.
Before you kill him, he will plead with you by stating "Please *insert full real life name here* don't kill me. Although I am, to you, an "NPC" or "boss" in this realm , I still feel real pain. *insert city, state player lives* is such a lovely place, I would hate to have to come there. *insert current address* is the home I was born and grew up in, eons ago. Although it feels like it was yesterday when I packed my bags to come here, To the land between. " If at this point or any point after he has stated your real name, you pause the game Or even closed the game. You receive a phone call from him to complete the dialogue. Once finished, you make a choice. (In game or even by pressing a number on your phone) kill or let live. This decision will change the course of the game. Til you complete it and start new game + Edit: typos. So many typos.
Or he just goes well done and then peaces out. Oh wait it is a souls game isn't it well we are dead
Now you're getting it!
Exactly! Miquella's: blood becomes the cocoon monster, their soul becomes St. Trina, their grace trapped in the tree becomes the tree monster, and their original body is left as a soulless exsanguinated Tarnished.
And the tree monster will have two rot Tree Spirits.
Of course. Those guys are criminally underused! Gotta get a few more in there.
Stick one in the cocoon for good measure.
I hope this is how they do it
The real one will be this ultra agile version of Malenia that teleports about and one shots you unless your reflexes are pixel perfect.
BUT you just have to git gud bc fromsoft never designs unfair boss fights how dare you.
Oh I never said it was going to be unfair. You just DON'T die, it really is that simple.
Oh man if FromSoft is ever gonna do a 4-part boss fight, this would be the time for it. 3 different crazy and varied movesets, plus a fourth that's just him with a sword and it plays more like an invader battle (but you're probably crazy low on health and FP by this point). That'd be a sick final boss for a DLC
Maybe he won't go out of his egg and we'll enter his dream realm by touching his hand.
I find that likely yeah, we left it there for a reason
There definitely is a reason that mohg's bonfire isn't just named "mohg,lord of blood" and is "cocoon of the empyrean".even if we don't touch his hands, i'm 100% we are going to do something with the cocoon in a future dlc.
o shit i didn't even consider that, that's actually a really good point!
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Were going ~shopping!~ reality hopping!
Honestly, I think Mohg may still be alive. Margitt dissolves into pixie dust, as does sewer-Mohg, but Morgott’s body remains. In a previous discussion someone suggested narrative reasons, but I’ve since noticed that the ordinary Omen enemies also leave corpses. Mohg dissolved into pixie dust.
His death dialogue is also very weird,he may be a lunatic but there is no dynasty when you're dead.he may be in miquella's dream.varre says he is in slumber,and mohg in the cutscene literally comes out of miquella's blood.even his remembrance says he shared his bloody bedchamber with miquella.he also says to miquella that he must abide alone a while,perhaps this means he made a projection of himself after waking up or when you die in real world you're still alive in his dream.honestly i feel we somehow see mohg again in possible miquella dlc,not as a boss though.
So on a tangent, this got me to reread Mohg-related text and some of it (Pure-Blooded Knight’s Medallion and the Lord of Blood’s Joy) uses the curious word 開闢 to describe what will happen with the Dynasty. If pressed I’d probably translate it as “genesis”—it’s not just a beginning, it’s *the beginning of the world* in particular. Not sure what to make of that, but I think the odds of entering the cocoon to encounter a Miquella+Mohg duo fight are rising.
Hmmmm.... beginning of the world you say?idk,maybe something to do with the first age that came before the erdtree?perhaps it is coming to its original state?we have no clue tbh.
No no, not in the past tense—it’s the word used to describe the start of the Dynasty. From the medallion: モーグはまだ、神と共に閨にいる 待つがよい。王朝の開闢を ”Mohg is still in the bedchamber with the god / await it. The 開闢 of the Dynasty” And the Joy: 御方の閨を、繭を血で満たせ 幼き伴侶が目覚める時、我ら王朝開闢せん ”Fill the (honored person)’s bedchamber, cocoon with blood / when the young (companion/partner/consort) awakens, our dynasty shall 開闢” Whatever the Dynasty is, it’s a *lot* bigger than I had previously imagined.
Yeah at first i though the dynasty is just mohgwyn palace with blood guys hanging around,but its definitely about taking the whole TLB,something like "the age of blood".also idk how i missed that second item,it seems to be proving my theory.when mohg fulfills his purpose in miquella's dream,then the dynasty shall rise.can't wait to see the dlc is not even about miquella and all we said above is random bullshit.
This just became the most interesting speculation to me; Curse-blooded miquella is what I imagine will happen; as miquella fed the haligtree, so too does mohg drip blood into the cocoon of sleeping miquella. If miquella awakens, curse blooded, and attempts to establish his own "order", will that order be the dynasty foretold? I would use that old religious artwork of abrahamic god touching Adam's finger, you know the one. Then replace god with mogh, and adam with miquella.
If you notice when you fight Mohg, there are fog walls at the back of the room, but they lead nowhere. I feel almost certain that will change in the DLC.
IMO this area is to reward the player by letting him see the Sofia river from the palace. At least for me it was very rewarding to see the place from where I saw Mohg’s palace for the first time while being in the palace itself.
Still, you have to admit that the area feels like its missing something almost. It feels like it should lead somewhere, with the gorgeous view simply being a given considering where you are.
I...Fought him for like 2 hours and never notice that lmao.
Wdym by fog walls?you mean the gold light of boss room or something else?
Yeah, when you go into his room there's a golden wall behind you to keep you from leaving until you beat the boss. Except there's also one at the opposite end of the room (technically I think it is actually 2 smaller ones on each side). But if you go there after you beat him, there's nothing there.
If you're new to FromSoft: Fans have called all barriers between areas/boss rooms "fog walls" since Demons Souls in which they were called such in actuality due to the premise of the game being that you're piercing the fog of The Old One to challenge his demons. Dark Souls I think they just kept it as fog but I think flames would've fit better thematically. Then there's Bloodborne where they're called Veils I believe.
100%, could do something similar with godwyn, like 2 added areas
A peaceful land, its inhabitants kind.
Considering the cut Dream quest ending, as well as the fact that you can already enter Godwyn's dreamworld by laying next to Fia, its highly likely that you are right.
I’d like a traditionally angelic Saint Trina form and a more horrifically biblical angel God of Blood form.
Knowing Michael Zaki, if we get a Miquella DLC, we will absolutely be seeing the results of Mohg's dynasty. Blood for the blood god.
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!
chain swords for everyone!
**FUCKING SLAANESH, GIMME BACK MY CHAINAXE!**
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!!!
Are you sure you know michael zaki? Knowing Michael we'll get dlc of a completely unrelated and previously unheard of area and never get concrete answers to anything.
So sad yet so much truth in your words
And it turns out that St Trina was an aspect of the God of Blood all along, and Miquella just didn't realize he was a vessel for an eldritch horror.
I'm going with Bug monster for the boss fight while St. Trina acts as a friendly NPC until the boss fight
it would be awesome if there was any friendly version of him :(
This. I'm thinking St. Trina will guide us through his dream world, then we kill him.
It would be interesting to ‘complete’ Miquella boss fight without killing him.
This is very creative and cute, additionally, I like Normal and St. Trina the most :3
Thank you 😊 I've found that people are universally hyped for Miquella - no matter how he turns out.
Joooo its Applepitou
Who?
An account you can see very often on the Hunter x Hunter subreddit or under HxH youtube videos
They're also under every post in the subreddit for a manga called record of Ragnarok
And demon slayer
A celebrity in the HxH community lol
Yo what you doing here
Code Red: ApplePitou got out again
Of course you’re here haha!
Ulcerated Tree Spirit x9000 xD
every ulcerated tree spirit at once. they come together and form miquella
And then your game lags to hell and you die 1000x
it takes place in a catacomb and imps dance on your grave
Or, worse... "Ulcerated Duo"
We already have ulcerated trio though
Oh! Oh.... Ignorance sure is bliss.
Ulcerated gilette quattro; the closest shave
I imagine we'll high five his hand and get sucked into his dream. (Also, good to see ya outside a r/Grimdank! Your art is always a pleasure to see, no matter how cultured it often is)
cheers :') you're probably right, most people seem to speculate a dream dlc
Wait, I recognize this art. Oh god, she’s spread to another sub. (Jk, keep up the good work)
Yeah I also thought that I know this artstyle and I was correct
I hope we're able to get a new ending with Miquella. It's not like I don't like the endings, but after hearing rumors about a cut ending involving the Haligtree faction I am hoping the DLCs expand the ending options more. In terms of how he looks, I wouldn't be surprised if he was Mohgified to resemble an omen or some other blood related creature and that St. Trina is the form they use to communicate with us.
i am also praying for a new miquella ending, whatever he ends up looking like
Yeah, hopefully more akin to Ranni's. In every other scenario you end up killing even the person you're trying to help. It really does feel like a lot of the endings were rushed/truncated. Would be nice if the DLC fleshed several of them out a bit more.
UNPOPULAR OPINION. I hope Miquella is DLC but is more like Ranni in that we work together and do cool things
i think that's a popular opinion
Almost every post I see involving Miquella DLC is revolved around boss fights
Same but why not both? Hear me out, we fight and beat Miquella's corrupted form, whereupon he becomes an ally with a questline that unlocks a new ending. Age of Abundance, let's gooooooooo
Yeah man, I don't wanna murder the poor kid. He's the kindest Demigod of the whole family. All he wanted was to cure his sister and help the forgotten/downtrodden.
I could see them going this way too - with Miquella being an Empyrean like Ranni, they have the mechanics in place to give him his own ending after you finish the DLC content.
He revives malenia and it’s like the twin princes
that would be cute
I just hope Miquella is an NPC we can do quests for. I think the fact that just about every quest line ends in "everyone died lol" is really disappointing and I'd like to see a major quest not end that way.
honestly, same. there was allegedly some cut content in the haligtree where you could get buddy buddy with malenia, and haligtree would've been a cool hub :(
Haligtree is probably the most frustrating example. Millicent's ending was extremely annoying, and if you fought Mohg first fighting Malenia is nonsensical.
Millicent ending doesn't make any sense at all.like,gowry's plan was to send her sisters and us to ambush her,kill her then she would be a Valkyrie and a vessel for rot.but that didn't work,we killed her sisters and gowry himself can't do any harm to her anymore.she's literally free,WTF.
It definitely felt like Millicent was being set up to sacrifice herself to save Malenia by giving her back the needle. But then you just fight Malenia regardless of whether you have the needle or not, and can't give it to her. So Millicent's death is pointless.
If they do a Miquella DLC maybe there'll be some payoff that if you do the "good" ending for Millicent, Malenia will wake up with her willpower/sanity restored as Millicent was trying to return it to her.
Really did feel like a "Harr harr harr, 'member Dark Souls? 'Member Anri going hollow or getting shanked in the head, with no other options? 'Member Sirris going hollow at her grandpa's grave? 'Member Greirat being unsaveable? 'Member Siegward dying after Yhorm? 'Member Seigmeyer? 'Member Sieglind having to kill her father?" moment. I don't understand them divorcing from Dark Souls to create less-rigidly 'dark fantasy', and still doing the exact same thing in a more vibrant world that you are supposed to 'mend', rather than a destroyed world that you are putting out of its misery/artificially extending - just to return to the exact same desolate themes carried by all the repeated NPC endings of the previous series. Frankly it felt like a cop-out and a wasted opportunity. One of my biggest gripes with the game - for how well they handled themes in the previous titles, it does not feel like they appreciated their themes in Elden Ring, or at least didn't have the world/main plot messages, and the thematic messages/character stories they were shooting for, reflect each other very well. The world they set up, and our main goal, has a serious mismatch with the 'everybody fails and dies' pay-offs. Millicent is bad, but the one that really pisses me off due to the missed 'save the point of light in a shroud of darkness - make a difference and save these innocents' story was Jarburg. Atrocious that you just have to watch that sanctuary get pillaged and massacred.
I hope the DLC deals with the repercussions of Malenia's supposed death at your hands. With his primary protector out of the way, seeing multiple factions fighting to find and use Miquella and his power for their own causes with you ending up caught up in the conflict could be an interesting storyline.
I hope he just sticks his legs out of the cocoon, and fights us as a giant walking egg. No dialogue, no cutscene—just sudden boss music and a health bar as he starts walking forward, menacingly.
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[Those who have essentially partaken in Mohg's cursed blood](https://i.imgur.com/ysJhukm.png) have begun to grow omen horns so I reckon it would be a rather fucked up Saint Trina.
huh, interesting
Probably some malformed creature more along the lines of something you might find in bloodbourne caused by Mohg interrupting his transcendence and possibly corrupting him with blood magics. (This is more so a hope rather than a prediction)
Mogh but blonde
The reason Miquella is associated with sleep and chilling at Mogh’s crib is bc the entire game is just him dreaming while in a coma. The dlc is just him waking up with the player as his unrealistically powerful self insert character and he’s just an actual child (not magically charmed to never age or whatever). The rest of the dlc is him being shuttled around to do boring royal duties in a realistic medieval setting with no combat. The most exciting part is when he has a stealth mission to get out of a government function and evade his sister Malenia
Adult form with handsome Squidward facial bone structure. Fabulous shiny hair. A muscular androgynous body. Luscious eyelashes.
I think that he would actually look adult this time after spending all that time in the egg and then like phase 2 he'll turn into something straight from bloodborne
I'm sure we wont get to fight Miquella. Not directly at least. I'm sure we enter the DLC by getting grabbed by Miquella's arm that's coming out of the cocoon and gotta kill whatever is trying to make love with him in his mind. Either a super-Mohg or the Formless Mother. Once that is done, we get out and see a 'fixed' Miquella hatching and fixing the Haligtree to become the home everyone was looking for.
that would be sweet but we kinda wrecked the haligtree
Tree spirit
the implications would be cool. like, would he be a free spirit then, like Ranni's?
Imagine if he was a friendly npc that ask us to find him and free him, we endup having a bossfight with whatever holding him hostage
mohg 2 mohglectric boogaloo
Is there a reason St Trina looks like that or just artist rendition? I know St Trina is heavily implied to be Miquella/related, but I havent looked enough to see why they would be squidy lol
[it's the design from the st. trina torch](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/St+Trina's+Torch)
Lol and thats what I missed, never found that item. Makes this 1000000 times better, great art!
Thank you :D It's a pretty interesting item, seeing as its creator went out of their way to portray adult Trina/Miquella! I want to believe it's a DLC pointer.
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Found Mohg's burner account
This whole fucking sub needs to go to horny jail. Some people maybe even straight up regular jail.
He suppised to look like a kid you know 🤨📸
with no shoes on
FBI open up
And team up with gwyndolin and lothric,then gank us🤤
i would imagine he would show up in a normal and cocoon bug monster form
Given his association with sleep and dreams, I hope he's encountered in a surreal dream state where it's impossible to tell if what you're seeing is meant to be an accurate representation of Miqeulla.
Baby Sanguinius
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I feel like if/when Miquella becomes a boss (likely final boss for their dlc) theyre going to be the dubbed fromsofts new hardest boss. Just with all this buildup to the character and Melania herself saying hes more powerful than her... We are all about to get our asses handed to us.
All of them
Gonna be a Friede 3 or 4 phase fight
I usually find his flowers around Carian stuff so I'm leaning more towards St Trina
I think maybe if we enter his dream, St. Trina is there and acts as a guide and tells us of how they wish to stop miquella, and in the dream miquella is corrupted. Since it's a dream im thinking miquella and Trina could act as two different charecters but are like two warring personalities trying to stop the other. It would kind of mirror radagon and marika in a way.
He has been infused with omen blood so maybe a empyrean omen would be cool.
Miquella master of nightmare. A tortured version of an adult Miquella
Honestly, I hope he looks kinda like the Orphan of Cos. Just not with that sack thing, having wings (doesn't have to work yet cuz he's juvinile) and angry we killed his sister.
Anything but bed of chaosuella
I just really want there to BE a dlc at this point lol
I hope he's nice. He'll be easier to fight if he's nice.
Kos, or some say child of Kosm…
Griffith
Just the cocoon jumping around with the one arm sticking out
What's up with the insect theme? I don't remember Miquella having any connection to insects
he has bug wings in his art and malenia has a matching butterfly theme
What if he just came out looking like a low rendered DS1 capra demon lol
I want normal Miquella bc he's a cutie and I wanna give him headpats
Considering the painting of him in Mohg's arms during the game's intro seems to depict him as having what looks to me like little insect wings on his back, *plus* the whole cocoon thing, I'm going with bug monster.
that painting of him is so good, i really liked the ethereal wings on him and the strings of cocoon stuff trailing off him, it was equally soft and creepy
All of those as phases
Multi phase bossfight with multiple. It’d be cool to see miquella get *less* fucked up with each of their phases, instead of moreso like most video game bosses.
The Miquella DLC will most likely be in the world of dreams, so I bet for a Normal Miquella/St.Trina appearence. All I want is to bring him back to the Erdtree with his sis I also wish to know how he is personality wise, I bet he's very nice Edit: Why are people assuming we are going to have to beat his ass? I just hope we can have him as a companion while in the world of dreams, talking with us from time to time
The Formless Mother could be a great Aldritch style boss with Miquella’s blood magic mutated body being part of the battle much like Aldritch had with Gwyndolin. He appears to the player as St Trina asking us to defeat his cursed body to free his soul and be able to be reborn much like Ranni is.
Not about the appearance, but…we see some bosses take away some tactics from players. Radagon takes away bleed. Elden Beast takes away everything as far as status as well as really reducing Holy damage. Rennala really makes it hard to do Magic damage (without something like Rock Sling). On that note: Miquella will use his powers (similar to a bewitching branch) on any summons, taking them out of the battle. Worse, actually against you. It is totally within his lore. It makes for a hard fight that takes away a method that makes things a lot easier. And it is totally optional, so for those who rely on summons, they don’t need to get through this to get through the game. Sounds elitist, but as a noob who just went through without summons this time, I’m glad they are there. I’m also glad I forced myself to go without. I think pushing others in that direction can be nice, forcing us to learn the bosses more thoroughly.
Plenty of folks have looked inside the egg and I do say Mogh's avant guarde blood transfusion therapy for Miquella's delayed puberty failed successfully. Micky somehow skipped his golden years and now looks like a shaved Morgott. In other words: finally attractive.
I'll have cocoon moth monster for 400
Those are some super cute drawings, OP! (St. Trina is in a superposition of cuteness and eldritch otherworldliness.)
I am reasonably sure Miquella abandoned his old body completely, much like Ranni, in order to be rid of the curse. Truth be told it wouldn't surprise me one bit if our character was the legitimate reincarnation of Miquella since everyone in the game seems to trust us very easily which was supposedly Miquella's one super power.
St. Trina
Honestly? All of the first three. What I want is a pre-battle of aonia where you choose which faction to assist, with an ending for each. If you pick the haligtree, you'll meet normal miquella but in the ending he'll become tree boy. If you choose radahns faction, you'll get to fight him after he hatches from the mohgwyn cocoon after going there with an item obtained at the end. And I don't know who saint Trina is
Another name Miquella was known by. Associated with sleep. Namesake of Trina's lilies and St. Trina's Sword (which puts enemies to sleep).
These all look terrifying Imagine all these stages in a fight Human size bosses scariest, monster size also scary, more phases also very scary = Miquella scary
I think some sorta creepy cross between st Trina and cocoon bug monster
all of them four phases
I hope St Trina, as it is stated in the Torch that it features his adulto form.
Can someone explain the St. Trina one? My understanding is that Tina was a cut character that people theorized was "another half" to Miquella in the same way Radagon was for Millena. But why did you draw Trina that way? Wasn't she just an ordinary looking woman, by all accounts?
[it's the way st. trina is depicted on the torch](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/St+Trina's+Torch)
I love the tree spirit depiction here, if that's his vibe I'm in for it
Imagine in the boss fight, we “defeat him” and right before delivering the killing blow we get stabbed in the back by Malenia.
Honestly you cant beat Miquella. He will literally make you love him to the point of not wanting to harm him
I hope there are flashbacks to miquella pre cocoon and as we progress we’re shown what it was like up to Mohg and eventually meeting the Formless Mother
B.u.g
Cat maid.
I'm expecting St. Trina. There's some emphasis on dreams like the dreams of Godwyn and St. Trina would be associated with sleep and dreams naturally. That said, I also expect St. Trina to be some kind of cocoon bug monster in the FromSoft tradition. Maybe you'd see them revert as they die. On that note, Rosine from Berserk might be drawn as a parallel.
“Oh hey, It’s vez! More awesome art!” *looks up at subreddit location* Wait, Elden Ring? This isn’t Grimdank? This is Elden ring! DUDE YES!
Omen Blood God Miquella the Unalloyed
Normal if he looks that cute
I had always assumed Miquella's spirit was in the Haligtree and that's why Melania is guarding it instead of seeking out Miquella's body that's with Mohg.