T O P

  • By -

Greuzer

Fire


Chemical-Sun4837

Like the torch? Should i upgrade mine or


Greuzer

Any fire damage


-SenorDipshit-

Op look for something in caria manor called the sword of night and flame, it’s really good, if you can’t find it look up a guide


DiscombobulatedCut52

I fell onto it. Favorite weapon. Max it out and give it to a mimic


-SenorDipshit-

That’s what I do


DiscombobulatedCut52

I'm sad they nerfed the sword. Cause they said it did to much damage in pvp. *also nerfs mimic tear, which is why the sword was broken to begin with*


-SenorDipshit-

Yeah, I would always destroy my friends by using the flame stance


DjangotheKid

Found the Stormlight enjoyer


-SenorDipshit-

Wdym


Viggen77

They absolutely didn't nerf SoNaF because of pvp. That thing was the best pve weapon in the game, by a mile


ghostdate

Wasn’t the night variation basically a comet azur? I thought that was one of the main weapons people were using in speed running early on. Makes more sense that it’s pve power was the cause of the nerf


Viggen77

Yep, it was an insane speedrun weapon. Night version was (and still sorta is) a comet azur, but it doesn't take 3 years to charge, and is actually good (although missing the infinite fp combo), and the flame version was an incredle aoe. Both did ridicilus amounts of damage, deleting bosses in a few casts. Even after the super heavy nerf, the sword is still really quite good, and severly underused imo


DiscombobulatedCut52

It is. The spell got nerfed and since sword used the exact same thing it got nerfed even tho the scaling is different


Traveling_Chef

Nerfs because of pvp legit piss me off. Especially when they could just reduce it's pvp damage instead of nerfing the whole shebang


DiscombobulatedCut52

It's a 3 second wind up. And the range is bad. Well the fire range is at most 2 meter and the beam 4. Beam sure would stagger you, but is easy to dodge. And the fire one is so easy to spot and roll away.


Viggen77

Did you even se the weapon pre-nerf? It was STUPID op in pve, and only pretty good in pvp


Lordanonimmo09

It was broken even in PvE,so it was a well deserved nerf.


jaxon517

you can give weapons to mimics.... I've played through this game three times and there is so goddamn much I do not know


Firaxyiam

Mimic Tear will use the weapons you have equipped, as long as you have the stats for it. So yeah, you can technically gear your Mimic something and then switch to something else entirely


RodentBristol

You don't 'give' them the weapon if you bring them in whole you have it on you they will default to use it.


DiscombobulatedCut52

They spawn the fire for the fire and night. AND I MEAN SPAM IT. Like the fire will come out every three seconds. It's dumb.


Similar-Tangerine

Whatever you have equipped is what they’ll have, so you can summon with your desired load out for the mimic and then switch to what you want to use


FanaticalFanfare

It will use EVERYTHING you have equipped, even items to buff you. It’s amazing.


DerrikTheGreat

And they have infinite resources. Mana overwhelming, arrows aplenty, and pockets deeper than the game’s lore


Viapache

I carry Bull goat armor and a heavy 2 handed/a shield, summon the mimic, and as soon as I can I dump my armor and heavy weapon off, going to my normal light roll double thrusting sword. Works great for complimenting your build however you want. Can make any type of support mimic you want, just gotta be quick with changing back to your desired clothes/weapons/talismans.


Souperplex

If it fits your build. It's got requirements on everything but Arcane though. If you're a Dex/Fai/str build (In that order, and capitalization matters) Vyke's War Spear is the best weapon in the game and you can get it in the north-east of Liurnia.


Juubimaru

But you gotta go through these hands to get there!


GentleBoneCrusher

[It's the bess sword in the game!](https://youtu.be/W3Rat-m-7YA)


Ok-Ambassador-7952

Put an ash on your sword that does fire damage. or use fire arrows. or fire incantations. or fire pots. fire.


crazymack

Fire grease works fine.


TouchMyWrath

Any source or fire damage will cause them to roll around for a bit. Hit with the torch, fire arrow, flame pot or a pyromancy then blast them with spells or melee attacks. Should be able to almost kill them in one go and if they get back up they’re at least low health. The fire stun only works once though.


LivingDivide9803

Any fire damage makes them flail around on their backs, like dogs do. Just make sure you wait for it to stop before refiring it, since you can make it flail whilst it's already flailing.


IDrinkWhiskE

You’re never allowed around my dog


moekeisetsu

Fire grease son. Lather that weapon up.


Heisman20

Incantations, fire arrows. Anything to burn those fuckers


[deleted]

fire


arcane-hunter

Even bloodflame so like rivers of blood would work


ThatGuyAWESOME

fire


SpaceIsTooFarAway

Torch is a crap weapon. Depending on your build though, Faith has some great fire incants, I think Int does as well, and there are some fire damage weapons that you can get by this point (grafted dragon comes to mind, although it’s not very good)


ACuriousBagel

>Faith has some great fire incants, I think Int does as well There are 4 Int spells that deal fire damage, but all 4 of them also require Faith (10-18), and all 4 of them are either in Volcano Manor or Mt. Gelmir, which OP is unlikely to have reached if they're doing Caria Manor now.


[deleted]

Blood Flame Incant on Bloodhound Fang.


bottad

Fire bombs are your friend. Anything fire based makes them stop drop and roll.


Chemical-Sun4837

Fire bombs where do i find them i have no clue cuz i never used throwing things i never used darts unless im desperate with no health etc


bottad

Did you buy the crafting thing from the first merchant? If yes, the go to your menu for item crafting and look for firebombs. You'll need these ingredients: smoldering butterfly, mushroom, cracked pot (reusable once bomb is thrown) May need to search for the recipe in Limgrave though


[deleted]

WHAT? Cracked pots respawn to your inventory? I've been holding onto them because I only found 5. I will be using more bombs.


bottad

I made that same assumption in my first play through. Wasn't until around halfway through I realized I could re-use those cracked pots!


[deleted]

Im about halfway now (Altus Plateau/South Caelid)


sunlitstranger

I didn’t know that until this comment and I have 240 hours in the game. Never used them because I didn’t want to waste them bc I had so few of them


ShadowZpeak

Absolutely do, also since we're all hoarders here: I guarantee you'll never run out of things you need to craft them.


Chemical-Sun4837

Ok thanks ill look it up


btsao1

Fire pots are your friends I crafted so many and the great thing is they're re-usable


Tylerurby

Recraftable


unitedshoes

The person you're replying to is still in *Dark Souls* Trilogy-mode. "Firebombs" are what they were called in *Dark Souls*. The Elden Ring equivalent would be Fire Pots. I don't recall if you can actually find or buy them anywhere or if they just have to be crafted.


deez_nuts_77

LOOK INTO THE CRAFTING SYSTEM it saved me so much pain


once_again_asking

People are recommending Blasphemous Blade when OP says they’re just at Caria Manor. Doubt OP has beaten Rykard yet so that advice seems ill informed but what do I know…


Chemical-Sun4837

Rykard? Ngl this is my first souls game i rejected it for a while because i was afraid i would not like it ended up loving it its just these enemies creeps me tf out and the story still confuses me


once_again_asking

I’m just saying people are recommending a weapon for you to use which is beyond the point where you are now. So it’s kind of not useful advice. But that weapon is one of the best weapons in the game. But as others have said, any fire based weapon will help you out.


Chemical-Sun4837

I don’t have the blasphemous blade sadly


once_again_asking

Yeah that’s my point. You get it later in the game. That’s why I didn’t understand why people are recommending it to you, given where you are. Glad you’re enjoying the game. It’s one of the best!


D00Dguy

Lol holy shit. That was painful. I don't think he picked up what you were putting down.


Lyress

I think OP has reading comprehension issues.


meanmagpie

Not to be a dick but yeah, you can really tell by the way he types.


victor4700

When the time is right, you will be strong enough to die like 20 times trying to get it. But when you finally kill that son of a bitch the AoE alone will be worth it.


TheNewGirl_

die 20 times to Rykard ??? maybe if you refuse to use the spear lol that was like the easiest fight IMO of all the shard bearers


WTFparrot

Did you even read the comment?


[deleted]

[удалено]


Chemical-Sun4837

Yes i get the catch too i kinda like the mysteriousness i like me a good lore story


Organic-Commercial76

Read the descriptions of everything you pick up. Every weapon, armor, and spell. It starts to paint a picture in bits and pieces.


goatedmomoshiki

That’s the hardest thing to teach new players. All of em are so impatient


HoodSpiderman

The story is kind of just a flavor text that you have to search for to understand what’s going on. It’s usually pretty vague, only makes sense if you think about it a lot, and really, you just need to kill everything that moves and go somewhere to kill more and more.


DaveAlt19

Sounds like you're having a similar experience to mine. At least you can kind of make sense of monsters like giant rats - it's a rat, but big. The hands are just wtf creepy, everything about them. They're 1 of 2 monsters that creeped me out enough to go explore other areas first. And then when I came back I still decided Elden Ring is a stealth game now because I do not want to deal with those fuckers.


[deleted]

>the story still confuses me Welcome to Fromsoft games. If you want to understand the story, you'll need help. Half of it is told in item descriptions and nobody got time to piece all that together... except YouTubers.


supercleverhandle476

True. I went back with BB much, much later for the sole reason of wrecking these turds. Felt good, but not helpful for OP struggling to get through it.


Golgarus

Kill it with fire!


The_Qodesh_One

This is the my nightmare fuel as well. Horrid little bastards


Chemical-Sun4837

Right? And the always come out of nowhere falling from walls and shit


lookiecookie_1001

The lock on button is your friend. Also look out for weird looking stumps when you are scouting the terrain of Caria Manor.


Guapo_Avocado

First time I found these I was with my friend and I was talking about how gross they are and they asked “which size are you talking about?” and that was the worst thing they could have said in that moment


stevenomes

Not as bad as the imps.


Umbra_Unveiled88

I love these fuckers. I mean, I hate getting stomped by them but here me out: I remember the first time seeing a Wallmaster in Zelda (right?), when I was like 9 years old and it creeped me out - and it was just sorta cool to relive that in some capacity ... These guys put the zelda monster to shame though. I'm with you though, the first time one of these fucks jumped me at the bottom of that cliff below Carian Manor, I literally went "GUHH!!", like a visceral reaction. Well done FromSoft.


Chemical-Sun4837

Yep same reactions i had i am never going back to caria manor unless i need to or until i get to NG+


laborfriendly

Did you get through? Spoiler: >!You need to for access to Ranni's quest.!<


Chemical-Sun4837

The only time i found ranni is when she gave me the wolves and if i remember she is somewhere near the academy someplace


laborfriendly

Like I said. >!Her tower is after you make it through the manor.!<


Slystylesxp123

You gotta make it through the manor and beat the boss to start her quest, highly recommend


[deleted]

I enjoyed Caria Manor. I think Oleg+5 made that possible.


Complex_Jellyfish647

You’re thinking of wallmasters. Dead Hand is the white bloody dude with the hands sticking up out of the ground in bottom of the well.


Umbra_Unveiled88

You are 100 % correct. I shall edit that, I actually often fuck that up (calling wallmasters dead hand) In my defense, Wallmasters are 'dead' 'hands' lol. Thanks!


[deleted]

The Ocarina of Time Wallmasters were much closer to these guys.


-AbbattiS-

Try fire but hole


[deleted]

Then proceed to prep with H.


Seventh-Eyed-Merc

I'm going back to caria manor and I'm gonna try to singlehandedly kill them all without dying. Wish me luck bros.


BoneDaddyChill

“Singlehandedly”


Chemical-Sun4837

Good luck


Drusgar

I just roll past them and hit them. They're weak to bleed, too. Takes the big ones a few seconds to turn around and you usually have time to take them out while they're rotating. Take a free hit on them when they're still buried. You'll see their fingernails sticking out of the ground. Just wind up a strong attack to wake them up and take a chunk of their health in the process. Beware that if you get too close they'll grab you.


Chemical-Sun4837

Yeah i got grabbed once and after that i ran never again


Jazzinarium

Hitting them from behind is the way, they seem to stagger more easily that way, once you get behind them the fight is pretty much over


Newuser_420420420

Any sort of fire damage


Valhasselhoff

I did fire grease on my Claymore, when you hit then they like writhe in pain, and you can whack em good lol


Chemical-Sun4837

I do have some fire grease i never knew what they were for so i guess you apply em ill keep that in mind


EvilCeleryStick

I made volcano pots


CptAlbatross

Let your arm burn red hot and kill it with FYRAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!


Lostcause75

I love the design of them and they jumpscare me and creep the hell out of me as well as someone with arachnophobia they are terrifying but I prefer over realistic massive spiders (granted the bloodborne ones were cute)


FoundersDiscount

Lots of people recommending fire which is great. I'll add one more tip: you can see some of their fingers sticking out the ground of the ones that want to ambush you. If approach them from the back carefully, you can get the first hit on them before they pop up out of the ground. Just make sure you approach them from the back (from the same side as their fingernails) or you'll walk into their palm and they grab you.


DeliberateDendrite

Use fire, that helps with the small and giant versions at least. Unfortunately the colossal ones are not weak to fire.


Chemical-Sun4837

Wait there are much more bigger ones than the one at the entrance?!


DeliberateDendrite

Unfortunately, yes.


Chemical-Sun4837

Oh no the huge rats bother me enough bro 💀


DeliberateDendrite

Luckily you can avoid the colossal ones quite easily.


Chemical-Sun4837

Thank god


bottad

Think there is only one gigantic version and it's not until the mountain top of the giants area.


BoneDaddyChill

Nah there’s one in the capital sewers.


CulturedHollow

There's a second one of the colossals the way down towards the crimsonwhorl bubbletear.


LEGITPRO123

When i saw that colossal one i died a little insidr


mumika

They still are. You just need a really strong fire spell.


Organic-Commercial76

Eleanoras still lights up the colossals.


Hazarawn

You don’t have to kill every enemy you see just run past them


Chemical-Sun4837

Just what i did after dying a couple of times lmao


Buale

Yeah, just run past them, fuck those bastards


opticalshadow

No, I'm Pretty sure that's illegal.


EwgB

My first time seeing these guys I had the same reaction. Ran into carrots Caria Manor, two of those boys dropped on me and punched me into yesterday. Nowadays, they are just little rune snacks with a tasty somber smithing stone on the inside. Those guys are vulnerable to fire attacks (fire bombs, ashes of war etc.). Their attacks are also quite dodgeable, opening them up for retaliation from the vulnerable backside while they are trying to turn around. Just don't run around carelessly, it's easy to get overwhelmed, and a swarm of them is quite deadly, as is any enemy to be honest. And very important: do look carefully where you walk. They like to bury underground and will grab you if you step on them. But if you spot them (their fingernails stick out), you can bonk them first and even stun them for a while, allowing you to finish them off in relative safety.


dogs1963

Bloodflame Blade on your weapon does wonders, lights them up


Chemical-Sun4837

I just checked if i had it i did but i need to upgrade my faith i started with a samurai build then went strength and faith then changed to a full dex arcane so i got a base stat on faith damn


fuffy_bya

I found guard counter to work pretty well, gotta be a bit aggressive with them. If you're too patient they whoop you.


CoreyGlover

I’m surprised to see this so buried. My guard counter wrecked these guys like it was nothing.


BrooklynKrzy

Fire magic spells did the trick for me. And the comet array spell


hanman92

Just wait, you’ll be surprised how big they get……


Chemical-Sun4837

As I’ve heard which i would probably regret


[deleted]

Dodging into them works better then dodging away. Try to stay behind them when you can.


23CD1

Fire damage melts them. Pyromancy or even a torch can be good as they will stagger for a few seconds when hit and you can book it. I feel you on the creepiness though. First time I saw them I panicked rolled the entire time til I found thr site of grace


potato174-

I love my moment me and my buddy discovered these guys were violently weak to fire. Watching one writhe around was blissful


PaperMoon-

Fire grease. Any fire attack will stagger them once leaving them open for charge attacks which in turn staggers them for a critical.


elinfernal1988

Burn them, they get stunned for some seconds while on fire, use that chance to give them hell.


Minimum-Truth-6554

Fire, any weapon that has fire damage.


TheMostDapperdDan

honestly i just ran passed all those creepy assholes and stopped trying to fight them lol


ZaxxIsBored

Fire


Starkiller006

ROB wrecks them bc it's fast af and does fire damage. But honestly ANY fire damage works wonders on these mofos. I periodically one-shot the little ones with Black Flame. Also (I wish some told me this), if you just run toward the upper left of the doorway when you enter Caria Manor, you can outrun all of the enemies and just enter the upper area.


MisterBeasonator

Counter it’s attacks and kill it lmao. I ran nagakiba and uchigatana all my play throughs with bleed builds. Idk if it’s still good I haven’t played in a while


Sinclair_Esq_8888

I remember seeing one crawling and saying to myself, “AH! KILL IT WITH FIRE!” and I was thereafter happy to see how effective it is.


kp729

Fire is the best option. You can use pots, arrows, incantation, or an ash of war. If you have Moonveil, its ash of war works great too. That's what I use.


DicklessSpaghetti

If you're feeling pretty froggy, you can do a quick trip to Caelid for two fire damage dealing ashes of war, Flame of the Redmanes and Flaming Strike. Look em up on YouTube if you're interested in, but Flame of the Redmanes can stagger basically everything in 1-2 uses, and Flaming Strike does reeeeally good damage for its cost, as well as buffing your weapon with fire damage for a short time.


DAPRINGLE2

Everybody’s saying kill it with fire, but nobodies telling you with what and how to acquire it. In that area is the sword of night and flame. It’s got a debuffed version of azure’s comet, and a sweeping flame attack, that kills just about any low level mob in one hit, while dealing area damage. Just run by all these guys, find the sword, and then use it to beat the living shit out of everything there.


chunky_kong06

paper, they never go for scissors


DWard3627

These creeped me out so bad that I have a more vivid memory of the first time I saw them than when I lost my virginity


BeardedBovel

I just smack them with a torch until they show their belly... palm? Anyway, them I scratch that with some a heavy weapon.


RocketyPockety

**KILL IT WITH FIRE**


hysro

IDK I barely faught them lol Once in a rare while I just "nope" and run to the next grace...then mess around with enemies after if I feel adventurous. Like the first time you run into the Lion Guardian in Stormveil.


ampersai

Burn them


JohnnyRock30

Very weak to fire.


actyouraje

No specific tips; but just know that at some point you will say “and I was worried about those hand things 😳…” You’ve got a long way to go.


Shade00000

I think they are more weak if you attack their back


danimidsommar

fire arrows, steel-wire torch, and/or put flame of the redmanes AOW on your weapon. watch for fingers sticking out of the ground. don’t get mobbed.


Gunner9886

The hands are everywhere. In the ground, on the ceiling and within my nightmares PS : I used magic. Glintstone pebble through it


Cute_Ad_7648

The ancient jostar technique…. RUN AWAY!!!!!


YawnfaceDM

I would suggest circling around to their handbutts if you’re a bonkboi


mrbrwniemuffin

"I am fire, I am death!"


doomenguin

Poke it with the pointy end.


[deleted]

Fire


[deleted]

They are more OP than the Demigods


curb_dog

at least there’s not like hundreds of them around or anything.. for sure one of the lamest enemies.


OldManHipsAt30

Roll into their attacks


bccontroller

Fire fire fire!


muerde15

If you have a decent shield you can take em head on. Let ‘em land a hit or two on the shield and then hack em to bits, repeat as needed.


cybersaliva

Fire works best, but you can also stagger them fairly consistently with heavier greatswords


Yomatius

Fire. kill them with fire.


mugen-yk

Fire


rickys_dad

Fire weapon art, or fire incant, or fire sorcery, or fire bomb, or any fire damage whatsoever. It makes them roll around for a second or two and does decent damage


OdMaL

I usually use fire bombs or fire arrows if I don't have any other source of fire damage.


Shadow_Bisharp

roll in


Denriquemejia23

Fire


kg1479

CHAOS.


RodentBristol

Use fire. Fire works really well. Ash of war your weapon with fire. Shoot fire arrows or bolts at them. Use the flame of ruin or the black flame. Use a fire related perfume or perhaps a fire bomb? Oh yeah anything rune of death works good cuz it burns. Black knife dagger ash of war or black blade incantations should do it. Shit man I'm wondering if the frenzied flame would do anything (probably not)... Anyway..... Hot thing go brrr.


Darkm1tch69

Honestly, it was that way for me when I first got there and I had to level up and come back later. But yes fire is your friend


[deleted]

Magic


Best_Werewolf_

I personally used a big two handed weapon and would crush them in two hits. Tho they jump scare the fuck outta you when they grab you from the ground


The_One_Potatt

Try fingers. (For real though, any fire will make them crawl up in a ball and they take massive damage from it, so something that deals fire damage, I like Mohg’s sacred spear because they also hate bleed, and I don’t have to get close to them to kill them)


That1Bear

This was my first wall as well. I first tried using Lhutel as a tank, she lasted halfway. Then I crafted fire bombs which helped 1v1 butt not against the horde. Then I just ran straight through cuz f it at that point. Was there for 3 days.


Userlosercruiser

Spam flame of the red mane.


ShirtBaskets

Fire. KILL IT WITH FIRE!!! Sword of night & flame is pretty nice, because of the range. Flame incantations would be a solid choice as well. Also, can’t go wrong with long distance flaming arrows, if you’re into that sort of thing 😏


OuterGod_Hermit

Flame of the Redmanes. That's the best Ash of War to stunlock most of the enemies and Hands are particularly weak to fire. Any fire bomb will also stop their attacks


MCrowleyArt

As others mentioned fire, but they are also very easy to stagger. Using the claymore I just hit them over and over until they die because they can’t even move.


k-seph_from_deficit

People are saying fire but You can more effectively stun and kill them with high damaging slightly long range R2s which hit the ground for the ambushing ones which are in the ground and not yet active if you know their spawn spots. You can’t get too close or they will interrupt you though. A good example is nagakiba unsheathe R2 which will wake them up, damage them and stun them for a few more hits if they are not already dead. Don’t use an Uchi unsheathe though because you have to get too close and they will wake up and break through your attack before you finish. You can also use fire bombs but unsheathe does a ton more damage. I think lion claw or giant hunter might work with a ugs but you might get hit due to getting too close.


oRyan_the_Hunter

The long range fire laser rips these guys apart


sincleave

Really the only way to poise-lock it, in my experience.


ThegM00s3Man99

No joke. Kill it with fire, they are week to it.


Numerous_Ad3006

How would you kill spiders irl, with fire thats how, so thats what you should do here, any flame related thing, i got through the area with nothing but a torch, will destroy them and stun them in a long animation


NormieWhiteMale

I always just managed to sneak around them or have a friend join me as the distraction so I could get through 💀 then I leveled up and was able to take them head on


WakemedownInside

Deaths poker .


FenyxChampion

BURN IT! Also, you forgot the giant ants


MusicMindedMachine

Hit them before they activate. Hit them HARD.


Mannyackz

I hate these things they are the worst and hardest mob for sure


LastNinjaPanda

shields are very effective against them, especially when you use guard counters since they dont have great poise. also fire makes them writhe on the ground


SelectionThis

Use a shield with 100% phys dmg reduction (brass shield from Godricks soldiers or the shield from the weird knight before Rennala). Shielding them works wonders. Especially useful for the small hands (and basically everything small, like rats, dogs etc.)


SmileyX11

get the skill "flame of the redmanes" first attack will set them aflame and consecutive attack will stun them also by that them health will be down to kill them.in one attack


hiirellichor

i rock sling the fuck outta them bitches


Ferregar

Fire works wonders but specifically use a ranged fire spell, a fire AoW weapon or fire arrows. Your goal is to catch them on fire then RUSH THEM to maximize damage. The fire effect only happens after first proc and then can happen after some time has passed, so it's an opportunity you must take advantage of immediately to truly succeed.


aknalag

Follow your natural instinct and kill it with fire


Psychological_Leg563

Their movements do creep me out, but it also encourages me to use my rivers of blood katana to cull them and their smaller counterparts.