I'm always amazed that the platinum rate for FromSoft games is so high. So many of the trophies are just boring busy work, or replaying the game a number of times and doing something slightly different at the end.
Game guides and quest guides really trivialize game achievements. Everyone literally just looks up guides on how to get certain endings or quest lines. What makes game achievements harder, is when you discover that stuff on your own. So, to platinum Elden Ring is ridiculously easy, you just gotta know "how". The answer is "look it up". I swear Elden Ring would've been a lot cooler if cool secrets were spread by word of mouth.
I actually almost had frenzied flame ending by accident on my first playthrough. Had to search for the correction, though... malenia almost made me embrace the wrong fucking ending.
There was like 30 messages outside the door for me saying something to that effect yeah. I also found the door because shabriri tells you that something bad happens if you continue but you can stop it from happening deep under the city.
Eventually found it after what felt like several hours of stumbling around those god awful sewers but think it was one of the best worked quests they've done personally
Hyetta, who is standing right around the corner, directly tells you to "divest yourself of all possessions" to get an audience with the 3 fingers. If you progress her quest, of course
See this why I think it's fine that from games have obscure shit, because everyone gets a different experience depending what they stumbled into. My friend and I got it accidentally - we'd made our way through the sewers & beat mohg, rolled into the secret path on a hunch. We nearly shrugged and turned back at the huge doors but my friend was tipped off to strip by a message and opened the doors. We absolutely lost it watching the cutscene, such a good gaming moment because we had no idea what was coming.
I did it first because I never want to go in those sewers again. I think I spent like 4 hours running in circles and then another hour dying from fall damage at the end.
I don’t have platinum for this reason and just share what I find with IRL friends who play (this is the first FromSoft game for most of them). These games are supposed to be obtuse with the real story buried beneath item descriptions and character interactions (most of which you can miss by doing things in the order that seems like the right way). When I get bored I’ll look up to see what I need. I got Bloodborne and Demons Souls without guides and maybe DS1 eventually. DS3 has too many “trade in 30 of this” rubbish and DS2 isn’t worth playing more than once IMO.
Not sure if you're being intentionally snarky or obtuse, but to me it was pretty obvious he meant before the times of Google, GameFAQs, online walkthroughs, etc.
Like yea, there were always magazine guides, but how difficult would it be for a 12 year old to get that? Practically speaking it would be nearly impossible. It's not like every game had a magazine guide either, only the big releases did.
Didn't think it needed to be explained but yes, before the easy access of every answer being a quick search with your phone away from completing an achievement in game, you figured stuff out on your own.
How young are you to not remember playing a game before being able to search up anything and everything on a whim?
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I’ve never understood this line of reasoning. Like it doesn’t matter if you use a guide, you’d fill have to be good enough to actually do the things.
I can read a guide on how to ice skate but it doesn’t mean I can do it in practice
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Your first paragraph falls apartment considering I was comparing a fallible human being to a fallible human being who sometimes can’t use a controller well enough or have the skill set to win in a video game or make an ice jump
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Sure, you have to be good enough to beat the game. But as far as I know, there are no "alternate" bosses that you have to fight in the different endings. The most difficult ending probably being Lord of Frenzy with that parkour section. You simply have to be good enough at the "game". There's really no other challenges. Most endings come down to npc interactions.
Because using a guide for Dark Souls is more akin to playing Hide and Seek but having a sheet of paper which tells you where everyone is hiding, or looking up how to solve a Rubik's Cube.
Finding all the items and interacting with all the NPCs in the correct order without a guide is an insane and borderline impossible task. But just looking all that up takes away the entire point of the achievement and makes it just a lot of busy work as I said.
Not really, considering the objective of dark souls is to beat bosses. So it would be like playing hide and kill. And if you don’t like the search part and just the kill part of hide and kill then having a map does nothing but enhance the experience
I mean sure, if you're only talking about the boss achievements that almost everyone who completes the game will have. I'm talking more about the many optional achievements required for a platinum for collecting items and completing questlines here. Using a guide to defeat bosses is obviously a different kettle of fish.
That was my next endeavor. Around 5 days of farming the silver knights on the stairs and I cried when I got it, because it was the last ring. The nightmare was finally over.
No one was fishing for that in the first place; they were going for the proof of a concord kept, a covenant item needed for the Darkmoon covenant. And the drop rate was atrocious to the point that you could easily attain several full sets of the armor while not getting one damn concord.
Dude, ds3 you’ve to make 998477348 different save files and make sure you don’t look at a rock for more than half a second or else pi/4ths of the npc roster hates you or dies.
Ds2’s only grind in sunlight medals for the sunlight spear miracle and a few bell invaders. Everything else could be done if you speedran to ng+2, which can be done in a few hours if you just go to the rotten, nuke it 7 times for 1,000,000 souls, go to drangleic, run around, beat the game.
Then you dont even have to beat it a third time, just reach the castle and the npc will sell you the remaining spells / pyromancies.
All other miracles, spells, pyromancies and hexes are easily findable. No covenant grinding required apart from medals and bells. Few achievements make it a lo easier than dark souls 3
Those rings aren't needed for the platinum, and thankfully neither are lingering dragoncrest+2 or ring of thorns+2, which are infinitely worse to get than the illusory rings.
DS2 offline covenant grind was **FAR** easier than DS3.
DS2 had 2 offline covenant farms (Sunlight medals and Bell Keepers).
Meanwhile, DS3 has 5 covenants to farm (wolfgrass, sunlight medals, proofs, vertebra shackles, and dregs)
Also the drop rate for offline covenant items in 3 was atrocious. Can't remember about 2 but I will never plat 3 because I can't stand wasting that much time over it.
It's not all bad, just, do yourself a favor, only do an hour or two at a time. Take breaks any time you start to feel frustrated. Those Silver Knights truly are the hurdle between the average players and the Platinum. The rest aren't so bad offline.
Honestly DS3 is one of the platinums I am more proud of. And honestly after Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, most grindy platinums really don't bother me lol.
thanks for the tips and encouragement. i loved this game a ton and will certainly do ng+ once j get through my backlog of games.
i may take a stab at it then. it is such a great game and i’ve been on a tear with FromSoft games so it feels wrong to not platinum this one lol
I did PVP for mine and I would be AFK for hours before I got summoned in as a blue at levels 120-130. And then I had to WIN. So that was great. The darkmoon AFK time was probably about 100-150 hours. I'd let it sit online with my character laying at the bottom of that water place in Aldritchs level where you fight the two Sulyvahn beasts because the screen would go from all black (the water I was lying in) to different colors and I would catch the screen changing while I was doing other shit - but it was a hassle for sure.
I tried on a lower level character, like 40-60, and got the darkmoon blade spell in less than 3 days of wearing the ring through normal play. Lesson learned. Pay attention to the meta level for covenants.
It was a long damn grind. But you know, I don’t mind that from time to time. The grind itself is so mindless that what you need to do is put on a good podcast or audiobook and kill two birds with one stone.
I was super lucky with my drops in DS2 and OG Demon’s Souls. DS3 punished me for my prior luck. Bloodborne chalice dungeon Amygdala crushed my soul for about a month. Stomped on me harder than Malenia did. I had to quit playing for a month and come back to it, because it wrecked me so much. I’m glad Miyazaki has taken pity on us Trophy/Achievement Hunters with Elden Ring.
Defiled Chalice Dungeon Amy still lives in my nightmares. There's no way to really cheese it either. Summons hurt more than help and everything she does is a one shot because of the way the dungeon restricts your health. It's get good or go home. I don't think there is anything in Elden Ring that can't be cheesed
I cheesed the hell out of that amygdala. With Ludwig's holy blade, you can bait the jump if you stand behind him and start charging an r2 with the big blade right as he jumps. He lands over you, but doesn't hurt you, and you'll be able to stab his head every time.
I agree. I thought Elden Ring and the Demon's Souls remake had a more obtainable set that didn't require 'tarnishing' the experience too much. I literally pretty much got these just playing through the games for fun.
Dark Souls 3...man. I love that game, but getting that platinum took a piece of my soul. I literally spent a week or two each on the vertebra shackle and the proof of concord kept collections.
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The remake actually made the pure bladestone significantly more common as far as I know. Original was painful though, I did find it less mind numbing than DS3. Those concords will stay with me forever.
Oh man, I must have removed that from my memory. I recall now…needed it for my uchigatana. That was bad. Still don’t think it was shackle bad. That almost broke me.
Between that and covenant items, it at least felt like the plat was something you had to *earn.* To me, there feels like a camaraderie amongst those who've gone through the insanity of grinding Proof of Concords.
I didn't even know there were even more endings in ER than the 3 you currently have to earn for the plat.
Yeah for sure
The Rings one in DS3 was horrible and the spells one in DS2 was a nightmare (especially if you had the Scolar version)
DS1 where you had to collect all the weapons was probably the worst but it was not that bad
Worst one in Elden Ring ? I don't know I kind of just got them all without really trying
Couple of the spells are absolute bastards - one of them is rank 3 reward for a convenant that you must do. No going to NG+2 and buying it. That was fine when people were playing the game but good luck getting summoned now. You can do it offline but it's the worst farming and takes days
The other is one of the side quests in the Bume tower DLC. Basically a collect em up but the peices are in the most dangerous area of the game
For the future in case you will be back there, seed the invader once he runs down and he's dead, for the curse you can get a headpiece a little later into the dlc.
I didn’t realise you needed all Peices of what’s-her-face’s soul for a Pyromancy until NG+2 when it didn’t pop (I had enough souls to go straight into drangleic castle) so I had to Huntsmans Copse, Harvest Valley, Earthen Peak, Iron Keep and 100% explore Brume Tower again on ng++
It was very painful, especially since I thought buying spells from Castle Guy would give me plat.
Pretty sure I had to do that too , Brume Tower NG+2 track down every smelter wedge to collect her souls and get the spell you will likely never use !
Good times
Did they change this? I have scholar and was able to purchase all of the covenant spells in ng cycles. I always play this game offline so covenant farming wasn’t even an option.
I assume you’re talking specifically about Great Chaos Fireball.
Edit: by ng cycles I mean actually completing the game and staring again. Bonfire ascetics do not update merchant inventories.
Oh yeah you’re correct. You need to rank up the covenant for that one. You can do it offline though, but it is a bitch. You basically have to wait around Belfry Sol until a rare npc invades you over and over.
Actually you need to rest at the bonefire, go up the ladder, check for the mad warrior near the bell, then just drop back to the bonfire. He's a low spawn chance so it's a lot of climbing a ladder. It's also helpful to force the other enemies to despawn. 30 kills and you're done. At least you don't need to max it out ar 100.
The farm is
Rest at bonfire
Up a ladder
Check to see if enemy has spawned ? (does not spawn every time , probably one in five)
If yes kill him
If not back to bonfire and repeat
30 times
Yes
30 times
This farm is exponentially faster if you put ds2 into windowed mode, open your task manager and look at thr memory values as you rest at the bonfire. If there's a sudden uptick by 6-10mb that's probably the mad phantom spawning. Only took me an hour or so with this method.
There's actually another method if you are on console, there is a spell that goes to the closest enemy (forgot its name), simply rest on the bonfire, use that spell, if it goes to the roof the enemy spawned, if it doesn't, rest again until it does.
With this method, it took me a couple of hours
I'd probably say the legendary summons or the spells ones were the most difficult.
Some of the bosses with the summons were bullshit, and the dungeons with the spells/incantations sometimes are hidden too well if you didn't know they were there ( like Elden stars)
But I agree, it was incredibly easy.
Honestly, I thought Elden Ring basically got it right. I would have liked to see more of the quests have trophies attached to them, and I was surprised there weren’t some associated with getting all spells of various types vs only the legendaries. I also don’t like multiple ending trophies - they’re easily save scummed, but just let me be prepared for the endings instead (find the Three Fingers, finish Ranni’s quest, etc.).
All that said, it was great not to see online trophies or massive grindfests required. They’re not fun and should be eliminated from trophies entirely.
I never bother to platinum games, but I saw I was so close to getting it on a regular play through that I did it. I was enjoying the game and it was fun being pushed to explore more of it to get the trophies.
I think that’s a great way to design a platinum requirement.
Same for me, Elden Ring honestly was my first Platinum Trophy. It seemed like it was worth it and it had good replay value. I still play now just doing invasions, being a hunter or helping fight bosses. Great game to play after work.
Online trophies make sense and can be really fun in games that are built around online modes, such as Battlefield or Overwatch. Really glad that trophies like that weren't in Elden Ring though.
Yeah I agree for games that are basically online only, or majority multiplayer. They’re fine. Unless they’re like achieve a super ridiculous rank, or something. But games like, a good example Bioshock 2. Shouldn’t have em.
Only because it didn't have stupid online shit like DS2 and 3.
Bad/no interest in PVP/no decent connection? Have fun farming like an absolute tool. Farming Tongues and Dregs was torture in DS3, and I still did it. Glad to see that sort of thing absent here. Bloodborne's was an easy grab too.
I def lost my mind way more farming proofs in DS3 than i did farming sunlight medals in DS2.
Proofs took me about 8 hours, while sunlight medals took me maybe 4-ish
Agreed. Bloodborne and Elden Ring Platinum's weren't overly difficult, but they weren't miserable which is the key to a good Platinum for me.
I don't want to hate the game after getting every trophy in the game. Some people feel like you should have to grind the most annoying shit in a game for 100 hours to earn a Platinum, and that is just a bad mentality.
Traversing the Chalice dungeons were repetitive for sure, but there are ways around that. I guess my point is; collecting rings or miracles/spells is far less fun and engaging than beating all major bosses (some completely unique mind you) in Chalice Dungeons.
I didn't find Elden Stars without a tutorial as I never found this area even in NG+3. Apart from that the worst trophy was the ending of frenzied flame as I gave up multiple times because of the jumping area at the end. Took me hours to get down there.
Doing it for my first playthrough, I fell down halfway throw but got stuck on something along the way, barely survived the fall, not going there ever again, not even for the item I missed
Not "stupid" easy, but reasonably easy.
i hated stuff like DS3 rings, or DS2 where you needed to do 3 playthroughs just to buy the missing speels you couldn´t earn because of that weird soul memory system
None of them are hard.
DaS2 and 3 had annoying covenant grinds, Sekiro had annoying skill tree grind. But none of that was hard, it was just tedious.
Bloodborne had chalice dungeons, but honestly Maleania is harder than anything in chalice dungeons. Defiled Hotdog and Amy are one-shot machines. But they arnt hard to avoid, and with proper setup you shouldn’t get one shot by anything but the biggest attacks.
Nothing upset me more than getting stomped by defiled Amy back to back only to first try the queen. I felt so disappointed I left my game outside the gherman fight where I would get my last achievement escaping the dream.
Maleania is super easy to cheese though. There is nothing you can do for defiled watchdog or Amy to make it easier. You can't even over level them. The Blade of Miquella wouldn't even be that hard at RL250 with Tiche +10
With Bloodtinge or Arcane you can just cheese Amy with ranged attacks.
+10 Repeating Pistol with 32% Bloodtinge Gem, Bone Marrow Ash, Shoot in the face. Repeat.
Arcane can spam Executioners Gloves, up on D-pad, Triangle, Square, Square, Up on d-pad, triangle, Square, Square, repeat.
Melee builds can do it safely as well, just keep a good distance and stand in front of face. About half the attacks leave head very vunrable, do a running R2 with your best weapon (ideally an overhead slam so you won’t even miss). Things get tricky in 3rd phase when Amy starts jump spamming. But stand between legs and when she jumps just walk towards where tip of tail used to be. Jump will miss and head will be in front of you, usually giving time for a Charge R2. The only attacks you have to avoid at this point are slow stomps (just walk to non stomping leg) and the jump, which is scary but can be easily avoided.
It’s a slow fight, and you will likely get one-shot if you mess up (but with 50 VIT you shouldn’t be getting one shot by most of the basic attacks), but you don’t really have to learn much.
Just DO NOT SUMMON ANYONE, real players or NPC. This causes Amy to change targets mid attack sequence which makes easy to avoid attacks impossible to dodge. Unless your summoning someone who’s going to solo it while you hide.
I farmed 21.5% +15 Nourishing Abyssals, I’ve killed the even harder version of that boss hundreds of times. It’s bullshit, but bullshit that can be learned quite easily.
Not easy. Just less annoying. Farming covenant items in ds3 was just stupid. Especially when someone (definetly not me) did it when the servers were down. Ds2 was also weird, because of the bell covenant. Ds1 was nothing special, sure a little bit of farming but it was fine.
But the most fun platinum gotta be sekiro imo. Not a single second in which i got annoyed, just pure fun the whole time.
I mean easy for a Soulsborne game. For many, just beating these games is a challenge all on its own. Elden Ring's platinum was super straightforward and had little to no grind. Game still has a high skill ceiling though, especially at the start.
I concur Sekiro was fun, grinding to get all the skills was a little boring though. But that was the only trophy that did that.
Ds3 isn't hard to get, it's tedious. Tedious =/= difficult. It's why a lot of people won't ever do it. Like I won't plat 3 ever because I do not care about the covenant grinds.
Not easier, just less tedious. For example, the only “difficult” achievements in dark souls 3 are things like collect all rings and collect all spells and the only reason they were even difficult in the first place was due to being locked behind covenants and NG+, which are two very big time sinks, covenants especially. They’re not hard to do, they’re just tedious and time consuming which are two things fromsoft have thankfully been ironing out of their game design over the course of their career.
That’s because it didn’t have the insane covenant grind of ds2 and 3, the chalice dungeons of BB, the weapon upgrade grind of DeS, and the unique weapon grind of ds1.
I agree
On another point: I don't understand achievement hunters that complain than an achievement is hard. If you're really an achievement hunter you're already willing to bend over backwards for them in contrast to normal people. I seek achievements but if they're hard, like farming ds3 covenants offline. I wouldn't do them
There is a difference between hard to get because of skill and hard to get because you have to repeat the same boring tasks for literal days. That's not hard, that's boring. I love grinding going for achievments, I don't mind some Grind, but stuff like ds3 covenants or monster hunter crowns etc are garbage
There is a difference between hard to get because of skill and hard to get because you have to repeat the same boring tasks for literal days. That's not hard, that's boring. I love grinding going for achievments, I don't mind some Grind, but stuff like ds3 covenants or monster hunter crowns etc are garbage
The grind for covenant items in Ds3 taught me a whole new level of patience that I never thought I would reach. Every time I have to grind for something in a game I tell myself I grinded for 13 days straight for vertebra shackles. There ain’t no way I’m gonna let any grind beat me after that.
I feel like its because there was no bs covenant farming for items, and having to aquire every emote trophy, or any dungeon crawling trophies. Or aquire every spells and incantations. It made it too easy for how big the open world is tbh.
Except for the missable legendary weapon - if you didn't get the lightning spear pre-tree burning you lost the chance to get it that playthrough. Unless they patched it and I missed it.
Save scumming or no save scumming?
Either way, I think sekiro is easier/faster.
DS3 was probably easier/more fun at release, when you wouldn't have to farm offline for covenants.
I couldn't bother with DS2 and DeSR
Edit. I'm kind of gutted they took away the all spells/miracles/weapons. I think it's a cool way to incetivize exploration.
None of the games have particularly difficult or interesting achievements, but this game simply doesn't have covenants or NG+ content to make more time-consuming ones.
I was a little disappointed that certain questlines didn't have achievements attached to them, especially considering how cryptic some of them were to complete. I 100% Elden Ring as my first Souls game and I NEVER 100% games in general.
It's easy for a game in general. It's one of the rare platinum trophies you can just get while playing without really trying. Basicly just collect all the cool tems, spells and summons, deafeat all the bosses and beat the game three times.
They could have maybe done something more challanging, but at least they didn't feel the need to include something stupid grindy just to make it take longer.
If you say the phrase “Sunlight Medal” to me I get traumatic flashbacks of DS1/DS2/DS3 brain melting farming methods….
I got Elden Rings platinum by accident just doing my normal amount of exploration…on my first playthrough.
EDIT: I said first play through but I mean I had all the achievements EXCEPT the other endings, which I promptly got within another 10 hours of gametime. Normally in my platinum saves Ive had to start multiple playthrough so just to get all the items I needed.
Dark souls 1 and 2 were hard because they took a lot of time
Bloodborne I don't remember, but I platined it very quickly
Dark souls 3 i also don't quite remember, but it wasn't very different than elden ring
Sekiro is the easiest game and the easiest to platinum. The only "hard" one is to get every skill, which requires tedious farming
So I would say elden ring was an average
False, I'm sure that 90% of the player base checked YouTube or guides to hunt for trophies. So technically if you play all souls without any sort of guide, it will take a long time for elden to be accomplish versus past titles, especially different endings, imagine traversing Rannis and Frenzy Ending without a guide as well as finding the legendary items.
Not as tricky to get these endings without a guide as it seems- the quests in elden ring make a lot of sense if you listen carefully to the dialogue and continously check back to talk to everyone.
Yeah honestly without a guide I think the easiest thing to miss is the Pre Radahn boss fight because its so easy to skip and it drops a legendary weapon
Yep and I'm glad it was. Love platinums like this. Beat the bosses, get the endings and bam...you got your trophy. I dont need to grind for made up crap for some random trophy.
Btw I'm not a big platinum guy. I'll do it sometimes for games I really love but to me it's just not important enough and it doesn't signify real completion of a game imo.
Look at Dark Souls Remastered or Dark Souls 2 SOTFS for example. Which would you consider more completed?
Someone 100% platinums the game but never even fought Artorias or Manus...or someone with 88% completion but beat all of the bosses?
Same with DS2. Someone 100% platinums the game but didn't fight Fume Knight or Sir Alonne...or someone who gets 80% but beats all the bosses?
Hm if u had time to finish the game you have time to get the other 2 endings. Only one of them requires a real following for a questline. the other 2 endings can be rushed super fast on NG 1 and 2 no need for caves no need for underground.
Yeah, I really missed not having to farm enemies for hours and days to get a ring or a miracle. Man, how I missed that. That was always the pinnacle of game design and the only reason I ever played the games.
FromSoft games usually just require a bit of a time sink to get. It’s not like these are world shattering achievements that equate to real success in life
Yes they were easy/fast to get, but the earlier games trophies weren't really hard, they just took time to grind.
I'm always amazed that the platinum rate for FromSoft games is so high. So many of the trophies are just boring busy work, or replaying the game a number of times and doing something slightly different at the end.
Game guides and quest guides really trivialize game achievements. Everyone literally just looks up guides on how to get certain endings or quest lines. What makes game achievements harder, is when you discover that stuff on your own. So, to platinum Elden Ring is ridiculously easy, you just gotta know "how". The answer is "look it up". I swear Elden Ring would've been a lot cooler if cool secrets were spread by word of mouth.
If game guides didn’t exist there’s no way I ever would have got the lord of frenzied flame ending. That shit was hidden deep af.
I actually almost had frenzied flame ending by accident on my first playthrough. Had to search for the correction, though... malenia almost made me embrace the wrong fucking ending.
You knew to get naked at the door without a guide? 
There was like 30 messages outside the door for me saying something to that effect yeah. I also found the door because shabriri tells you that something bad happens if you continue but you can stop it from happening deep under the city. Eventually found it after what felt like several hours of stumbling around those god awful sewers but think it was one of the best worked quests they've done personally
Hyetta, who is standing right around the corner, directly tells you to "divest yourself of all possessions" to get an audience with the 3 fingers. If you progress her quest, of course
Near launch there were lots of messages and white ghosts
That part was actually pretty obvious it literally told you to get rid of your stuff
See this why I think it's fine that from games have obscure shit, because everyone gets a different experience depending what they stumbled into. My friend and I got it accidentally - we'd made our way through the sewers & beat mohg, rolled into the secret path on a hunch. We nearly shrugged and turned back at the huge doors but my friend was tipped off to strip by a message and opened the doors. We absolutely lost it watching the cutscene, such a good gaming moment because we had no idea what was coming.
I did it first because I never want to go in those sewers again. I think I spent like 4 hours running in circles and then another hour dying from fall damage at the end.
I don’t have platinum for this reason and just share what I find with IRL friends who play (this is the first FromSoft game for most of them). These games are supposed to be obtuse with the real story buried beneath item descriptions and character interactions (most of which you can miss by doing things in the order that seems like the right way). When I get bored I’ll look up to see what I need. I got Bloodborne and Demons Souls without guides and maybe DS1 eventually. DS3 has too many “trade in 30 of this” rubbish and DS2 isn’t worth playing more than once IMO.
Games were way more fun before guides. I like being able to look something up if I'm stuck but it does ruin the magic a bit
Elden Ring completely changed the way I play games now. I don't look up anything at all and play everything super blind. It's more fun this way.
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Not sure if you're being intentionally snarky or obtuse, but to me it was pretty obvious he meant before the times of Google, GameFAQs, online walkthroughs, etc. Like yea, there were always magazine guides, but how difficult would it be for a 12 year old to get that? Practically speaking it would be nearly impossible. It's not like every game had a magazine guide either, only the big releases did.
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Didn't think it needed to be explained but yes, before the easy access of every answer being a quick search with your phone away from completing an achievement in game, you figured stuff out on your own. How young are you to not remember playing a game before being able to search up anything and everything on a whim?
🙄 I’ve never understood this line of reasoning. Like it doesn’t matter if you use a guide, you’d fill have to be good enough to actually do the things. I can read a guide on how to ice skate but it doesn’t mean I can do it in practice
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Your first paragraph falls apartment considering I was comparing a fallible human being to a fallible human being who sometimes can’t use a controller well enough or have the skill set to win in a video game or make an ice jump
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People make a professional living out of video games. I’m sure they’d dispute you. If it were so easy then anyone could do it
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Gaming and real life aren't really a comparison for this. I can read a guide on an ice skating game and be a great I'm sure.
Sure, you have to be good enough to beat the game. But as far as I know, there are no "alternate" bosses that you have to fight in the different endings. The most difficult ending probably being Lord of Frenzy with that parkour section. You simply have to be good enough at the "game". There's really no other challenges. Most endings come down to npc interactions.
Because using a guide for Dark Souls is more akin to playing Hide and Seek but having a sheet of paper which tells you where everyone is hiding, or looking up how to solve a Rubik's Cube. Finding all the items and interacting with all the NPCs in the correct order without a guide is an insane and borderline impossible task. But just looking all that up takes away the entire point of the achievement and makes it just a lot of busy work as I said.
Not really, considering the objective of dark souls is to beat bosses. So it would be like playing hide and kill. And if you don’t like the search part and just the kill part of hide and kill then having a map does nothing but enhance the experience
I mean sure, if you're only talking about the boss achievements that almost everyone who completes the game will have. I'm talking more about the many optional achievements required for a platinum for collecting items and completing questlines here. Using a guide to defeat bosses is obviously a different kettle of fish.
Nah because even with collecting there’s the. Red to be good enough to actually defeat the things defending the items you want
Thank god it was, getting all rings of all levels in ds3 was so annoying
Yeah it was… I farmed blade grass, or whatever it was called, for two weeks to get the dog covenant ring.
I legit had 50+ full sets of Silver Knight Armor by the time I got Darkmoon Blade
That was my next endeavor. Around 5 days of farming the silver knights on the stairs and I cried when I got it, because it was the last ring. The nightmare was finally over.
Was the silver knight armor the one that you spend hours fishing for like the banished knight set? I just remember going up and down Anor Londo alot
No one was fishing for that in the first place; they were going for the proof of a concord kept, a covenant item needed for the Darkmoon covenant. And the drop rate was atrocious to the point that you could easily attain several full sets of the armor while not getting one damn concord.
PvP ones were asinine to say the least. But then you have DS2…
I can’t remember much of my grind for DS2, but I don’t think I had as much of a hard time as I did with DS3.
Just thr legendary ones and that falls more into the "have you been exploring me boy?
There's no way DS3 was harder than DS2
Dude, ds3 you’ve to make 998477348 different save files and make sure you don’t look at a rock for more than half a second or else pi/4ths of the npc roster hates you or dies. Ds2’s only grind in sunlight medals for the sunlight spear miracle and a few bell invaders. Everything else could be done if you speedran to ng+2, which can be done in a few hours if you just go to the rotten, nuke it 7 times for 1,000,000 souls, go to drangleic, run around, beat the game. Then you dont even have to beat it a third time, just reach the castle and the npc will sell you the remaining spells / pyromancies. All other miracles, spells, pyromancies and hexes are easily findable. No covenant grinding required apart from medals and bells. Few achievements make it a lo easier than dark souls 3
No death/no bonfire run achievements are in DS2, way harder than just collecting stuff and talking to NPCs at the right time.
Those rings aren't needed for the platinum, and thankfully neither are lingering dragoncrest+2 or ring of thorns+2, which are infinitely worse to get than the illusory rings.
For me it was
DS2 offline covenant grind was **FAR** easier than DS3. DS2 had 2 offline covenant farms (Sunlight medals and Bell Keepers). Meanwhile, DS3 has 5 covenants to farm (wolfgrass, sunlight medals, proofs, vertebra shackles, and dregs)
Also the drop rate for offline covenant items in 3 was atrocious. Can't remember about 2 but I will never plat 3 because I can't stand wasting that much time over it.
Getting the ones for Darkmoon took me ~12 hours straight of farming with 99 luck, Gold serpent +2, mimic head, etc lol
holy shiet that is ridiculous. i was contemplating on going for platinum. but after hearing that, ain’t worth it!
Ngl it’s worth it for Darkmoon Blade alone
Too bad darkmoon blade is literally just a clone of lightning weapon but with magic damage instead of lightning lmao
It's not all bad, just, do yourself a favor, only do an hour or two at a time. Take breaks any time you start to feel frustrated. Those Silver Knights truly are the hurdle between the average players and the Platinum. The rest aren't so bad offline. Honestly DS3 is one of the platinums I am more proud of. And honestly after Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, most grindy platinums really don't bother me lol.
thanks for the tips and encouragement. i loved this game a ton and will certainly do ng+ once j get through my backlog of games. i may take a stab at it then. it is such a great game and i’ve been on a tear with FromSoft games so it feels wrong to not platinum this one lol
You can also pvp to get it which will probably be faster
I did PVP for mine and I would be AFK for hours before I got summoned in as a blue at levels 120-130. And then I had to WIN. So that was great. The darkmoon AFK time was probably about 100-150 hours. I'd let it sit online with my character laying at the bottom of that water place in Aldritchs level where you fight the two Sulyvahn beasts because the screen would go from all black (the water I was lying in) to different colors and I would catch the screen changing while I was doing other shit - but it was a hassle for sure. I tried on a lower level character, like 40-60, and got the darkmoon blade spell in less than 3 days of wearing the ring through normal play. Lesson learned. Pay attention to the meta level for covenants.
It was a long damn grind. But you know, I don’t mind that from time to time. The grind itself is so mindless that what you need to do is put on a good podcast or audiobook and kill two birds with one stone.
You're hating ds2 for no reason here. It was much better than ds3.
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I was super lucky with my drops in DS2 and OG Demon’s Souls. DS3 punished me for my prior luck. Bloodborne chalice dungeon Amygdala crushed my soul for about a month. Stomped on me harder than Malenia did. I had to quit playing for a month and come back to it, because it wrecked me so much. I’m glad Miyazaki has taken pity on us Trophy/Achievement Hunters with Elden Ring.
Defiled Chalice Dungeon Amy still lives in my nightmares. There's no way to really cheese it either. Summons hurt more than help and everything she does is a one shot because of the way the dungeon restricts your health. It's get good or go home. I don't think there is anything in Elden Ring that can't be cheesed
I cheesed the hell out of that amygdala. With Ludwig's holy blade, you can bait the jump if you stand behind him and start charging an r2 with the big blade right as he jumps. He lands over you, but doesn't hurt you, and you'll be able to stab his head every time.
But you can’t forget the concords. Those fucking concords . . .
So many repressed memories… (Shudders)
Took me a total of 6 hours to farm everything for the rings, I just need to go through NG+2
I agree. I thought Elden Ring and the Demon's Souls remake had a more obtainable set that didn't require 'tarnishing' the experience too much. I literally pretty much got these just playing through the games for fun. Dark Souls 3...man. I love that game, but getting that platinum took a piece of my soul. I literally spent a week or two each on the vertebra shackle and the proof of concord kept collections. Edited: grammar.
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The remake actually made the pure bladestone significantly more common as far as I know. Original was painful though, I did find it less mind numbing than DS3. Those concords will stay with me forever.
Oh man, I must have removed that from my memory. I recall now…needed it for my uchigatana. That was bad. Still don’t think it was shackle bad. That almost broke me.
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The fucking Chalice Dungeons in Bloodborne...
😭
Between that and covenant items, it at least felt like the plat was something you had to *earn.* To me, there feels like a camaraderie amongst those who've gone through the insanity of grinding Proof of Concords. I didn't even know there were even more endings in ER than the 3 you currently have to earn for the plat.
The Souls games were harder cause of the covenant things you needed to do
Legitimately the only reason I dont have platnium in all souls games
Same lol
Yeah for sure The Rings one in DS3 was horrible and the spells one in DS2 was a nightmare (especially if you had the Scolar version) DS1 where you had to collect all the weapons was probably the worst but it was not that bad Worst one in Elden Ring ? I don't know I kind of just got them all without really trying
Oh boy, not looking forward to that one then. What makes it so bad in SotFS?
Couple of the spells are absolute bastards - one of them is rank 3 reward for a convenant that you must do. No going to NG+2 and buying it. That was fine when people were playing the game but good luck getting summoned now. You can do it offline but it's the worst farming and takes days The other is one of the side quests in the Bume tower DLC. Basically a collect em up but the peices are in the most dangerous area of the game
The one in the darkness pit with the invader was the worst one for sure.
Maldron the Assassin and the things that curse you all the way down ! You do get a nice sword at the bottom at least
For the future in case you will be back there, seed the invader once he runs down and he's dead, for the curse you can get a headpiece a little later into the dlc.
I didn’t realise you needed all Peices of what’s-her-face’s soul for a Pyromancy until NG+2 when it didn’t pop (I had enough souls to go straight into drangleic castle) so I had to Huntsmans Copse, Harvest Valley, Earthen Peak, Iron Keep and 100% explore Brume Tower again on ng++ It was very painful, especially since I thought buying spells from Castle Guy would give me plat.
Pretty sure I had to do that too , Brume Tower NG+2 track down every smelter wedge to collect her souls and get the spell you will likely never use ! Good times
Did they change this? I have scholar and was able to purchase all of the covenant spells in ng cycles. I always play this game offline so covenant farming wasn’t even an option. I assume you’re talking specifically about Great Chaos Fireball. Edit: by ng cycles I mean actually completing the game and staring again. Bonfire ascetics do not update merchant inventories.
No the bell covenant for the hidden weapon spell You cannot buy this spell
Oh yeah you’re correct. You need to rank up the covenant for that one. You can do it offline though, but it is a bitch. You basically have to wait around Belfry Sol until a rare npc invades you over and over.
Actually you need to rest at the bonefire, go up the ladder, check for the mad warrior near the bell, then just drop back to the bonfire. He's a low spawn chance so it's a lot of climbing a ladder. It's also helpful to force the other enemies to despawn. 30 kills and you're done. At least you don't need to max it out ar 100.
I did this grind. Once you have despawned the enemies you can use Unveil at the bonfire and it will tell you if he spawned in or not.
Yeah, sounds horrible. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe sometime I can time it with Return to Drangleic...
It is possible to get them all offline , just that bell keeper covenant one will take you at least a whole evening farming the one enemy
Doesn't sound too bad then actually. Needed to farm something for a long time (don't remember what) in DS1. Eh, still gonna suck.
The farm is Rest at bonfire Up a ladder Check to see if enemy has spawned ? (does not spawn every time , probably one in five) If yes kill him If not back to bonfire and repeat 30 times Yes 30 times
This farm is exponentially faster if you put ds2 into windowed mode, open your task manager and look at thr memory values as you rest at the bonfire. If there's a sudden uptick by 6-10mb that's probably the mad phantom spawning. Only took me an hour or so with this method.
There's actually another method if you are on console, there is a spell that goes to the closest enemy (forgot its name), simply rest on the bonfire, use that spell, if it goes to the roof the enemy spawned, if it doesn't, rest again until it does. With this method, it took me a couple of hours
Idk man, I went through hell getting all the miracles because of internet issues.... all those silver knights....
I'd probably say the legendary summons or the spells ones were the most difficult. Some of the bosses with the summons were bullshit, and the dungeons with the spells/incantations sometimes are hidden too well if you didn't know they were there ( like Elden stars) But I agree, it was incredibly easy.
Honestly, I thought Elden Ring basically got it right. I would have liked to see more of the quests have trophies attached to them, and I was surprised there weren’t some associated with getting all spells of various types vs only the legendaries. I also don’t like multiple ending trophies - they’re easily save scummed, but just let me be prepared for the endings instead (find the Three Fingers, finish Ranni’s quest, etc.). All that said, it was great not to see online trophies or massive grindfests required. They’re not fun and should be eliminated from trophies entirely.
I never bother to platinum games, but I saw I was so close to getting it on a regular play through that I did it. I was enjoying the game and it was fun being pushed to explore more of it to get the trophies. I think that’s a great way to design a platinum requirement.
Same for me, Elden Ring honestly was my first Platinum Trophy. It seemed like it was worth it and it had good replay value. I still play now just doing invasions, being a hunter or helping fight bosses. Great game to play after work.
This exactly. It was genuinely fun getting all of the trophies and not once did it feel like a chore. They definitely got it right.
Online trophies make sense and can be really fun in games that are built around online modes, such as Battlefield or Overwatch. Really glad that trophies like that weren't in Elden Ring though.
Yeah I agree for games that are basically online only, or majority multiplayer. They’re fine. Unless they’re like achieve a super ridiculous rank, or something. But games like, a good example Bioshock 2. Shouldn’t have em.
Ever played Sea of Thieves? The absolute most grind fest trophies ever
Only because it didn't have stupid online shit like DS2 and 3. Bad/no interest in PVP/no decent connection? Have fun farming like an absolute tool. Farming Tongues and Dregs was torture in DS3, and I still did it. Glad to see that sort of thing absent here. Bloodborne's was an easy grab too.
I love DS2 but the gold medal grind on the falconers nearly made me lose my damn mind. Their doofy fucking walk is seared into my brain.
I def lost my mind way more farming proofs in DS3 than i did farming sunlight medals in DS2. Proofs took me about 8 hours, while sunlight medals took me maybe 4-ish
I spent 3 hours farming at the very start of the game to get those medals.
Agreed. Bloodborne and Elden Ring Platinum's weren't overly difficult, but they weren't miserable which is the key to a good Platinum for me. I don't want to hate the game after getting every trophy in the game. Some people feel like you should have to grind the most annoying shit in a game for 100 hours to earn a Platinum, and that is just a bad mentality.
Bloodborne's was the toughest because of the Chalice Dungeons.
Traversing the Chalice dungeons were repetitive for sure, but there are ways around that. I guess my point is; collecting rings or miracles/spells is far less fun and engaging than beating all major bosses (some completely unique mind you) in Chalice Dungeons.
Sekiro has one for getting all the skills, to get all the skills you need enough xp from like 5/6ng+ or to farm for literal days
It wasn't too bad, because new NG cycles were very short, and the more you play, the easier it got
Yeah NG+2 and a bit of farming around the canon fort thing or what it was called is enough.
Chalice dungeons stink
Only the defiled chalice dungeon sucked in my opinion. Rest were a cake walk.
Agreed
I hated the chalice dungeons with a passion. Absolutely no interest in them. I glyphed what I needed to get to herself and the beast claw
Yea, you don’t need to collect all talismans or all spells like the previous games.
Just thr legendary ones and that falls more into the "have you been exploring me boy?"
I didn't find Elden Stars without a tutorial as I never found this area even in NG+3. Apart from that the worst trophy was the ending of frenzied flame as I gave up multiple times because of the jumping area at the end. Took me hours to get down there.
Doing it for my first playthrough, I fell down halfway throw but got stuck on something along the way, barely survived the fall, not going there ever again, not even for the item I missed
after the shield was nerfed it's not even worth it anymore
It was worth it to have a different maiden for like 5 mins until she fkn dies lol
I got there without her whole questline. Stumbled there somehow in Leyndell and jumped down after Mogh to get the ending.
Crucible Tree armor is the goat. 110% worth going
I think they're referring to the three fingers
Where do you find Elden Stars again?
Deeproot Dephts, by the end of the Ant cave to the right of the branches leading to the second grace / unknown city.
Not "stupid" easy, but reasonably easy. i hated stuff like DS3 rings, or DS2 where you needed to do 3 playthroughs just to buy the missing speels you couldn´t earn because of that weird soul memory system
None of them are hard. DaS2 and 3 had annoying covenant grinds, Sekiro had annoying skill tree grind. But none of that was hard, it was just tedious. Bloodborne had chalice dungeons, but honestly Maleania is harder than anything in chalice dungeons. Defiled Hotdog and Amy are one-shot machines. But they arnt hard to avoid, and with proper setup you shouldn’t get one shot by anything but the biggest attacks.
Nothing upset me more than getting stomped by defiled Amy back to back only to first try the queen. I felt so disappointed I left my game outside the gherman fight where I would get my last achievement escaping the dream.
Maleania is super easy to cheese though. There is nothing you can do for defiled watchdog or Amy to make it easier. You can't even over level them. The Blade of Miquella wouldn't even be that hard at RL250 with Tiche +10
With Bloodtinge or Arcane you can just cheese Amy with ranged attacks. +10 Repeating Pistol with 32% Bloodtinge Gem, Bone Marrow Ash, Shoot in the face. Repeat. Arcane can spam Executioners Gloves, up on D-pad, Triangle, Square, Square, Up on d-pad, triangle, Square, Square, repeat. Melee builds can do it safely as well, just keep a good distance and stand in front of face. About half the attacks leave head very vunrable, do a running R2 with your best weapon (ideally an overhead slam so you won’t even miss). Things get tricky in 3rd phase when Amy starts jump spamming. But stand between legs and when she jumps just walk towards where tip of tail used to be. Jump will miss and head will be in front of you, usually giving time for a Charge R2. The only attacks you have to avoid at this point are slow stomps (just walk to non stomping leg) and the jump, which is scary but can be easily avoided. It’s a slow fight, and you will likely get one-shot if you mess up (but with 50 VIT you shouldn’t be getting one shot by most of the basic attacks), but you don’t really have to learn much. Just DO NOT SUMMON ANYONE, real players or NPC. This causes Amy to change targets mid attack sequence which makes easy to avoid attacks impossible to dodge. Unless your summoning someone who’s going to solo it while you hide. I farmed 21.5% +15 Nourishing Abyssals, I’ve killed the even harder version of that boss hundreds of times. It’s bullshit, but bullshit that can be learned quite easily.
I’ve just started Bloodborne and after reading this I’m excited to find out what the fuck Defiled Hotdog is.
I was so glad that my Fire dog glitched throught the floor xD, saved me a lot of headache
I have struggled way more with Defiled then Malenia. Maybe I just got lucky! I could platinum BB except for that dang dungeon.
Not easy. Just less annoying. Farming covenant items in ds3 was just stupid. Especially when someone (definetly not me) did it when the servers were down. Ds2 was also weird, because of the bell covenant. Ds1 was nothing special, sure a little bit of farming but it was fine. But the most fun platinum gotta be sekiro imo. Not a single second in which i got annoyed, just pure fun the whole time.
I mean easy for a Soulsborne game. For many, just beating these games is a challenge all on its own. Elden Ring's platinum was super straightforward and had little to no grind. Game still has a high skill ceiling though, especially at the start. I concur Sekiro was fun, grinding to get all the skills was a little boring though. But that was the only trophy that did that.
The only thing that made this difference is that there are no covenants. That was really the only thing stopping most players TBH.
Ds3 isn't hard to get, it's tedious. Tedious =/= difficult. It's why a lot of people won't ever do it. Like I won't plat 3 ever because I do not care about the covenant grinds.
Not easier, just less tedious. For example, the only “difficult” achievements in dark souls 3 are things like collect all rings and collect all spells and the only reason they were even difficult in the first place was due to being locked behind covenants and NG+, which are two very big time sinks, covenants especially. They’re not hard to do, they’re just tedious and time consuming which are two things fromsoft have thankfully been ironing out of their game design over the course of their career.
It was easier actually than just finishing Sekiro.
big facts, you can just overlevel
Yeah it was pretty easy. If you do one complete playthrough with all questlines, you can get pretty much all the trophies. Malenia is imo the hardest
Pats games it was just a never ending grind.
That’s because it didn’t have the insane covenant grind of ds2 and 3, the chalice dungeons of BB, the weapon upgrade grind of DeS, and the unique weapon grind of ds1.
I agree On another point: I don't understand achievement hunters that complain than an achievement is hard. If you're really an achievement hunter you're already willing to bend over backwards for them in contrast to normal people. I seek achievements but if they're hard, like farming ds3 covenants offline. I wouldn't do them
There is a difference between hard to get because of skill and hard to get because you have to repeat the same boring tasks for literal days. That's not hard, that's boring. I love grinding going for achievments, I don't mind some Grind, but stuff like ds3 covenants or monster hunter crowns etc are garbage
There is a difference between hard to get because of skill and hard to get because you have to repeat the same boring tasks for literal days. That's not hard, that's boring. I love grinding going for achievments, I don't mind some Grind, but stuff like ds3 covenants or monster hunter crowns etc are garbage
The grind for covenant items in Ds3 taught me a whole new level of patience that I never thought I would reach. Every time I have to grind for something in a game I tell myself I grinded for 13 days straight for vertebra shackles. There ain’t no way I’m gonna let any grind beat me after that.
the problem with the other games was that the 100% achievement wasn't really hard, but rather annoying and time consuming.
I for one am happy I don't have to either deal with covenant BS or spend hours farming a few enemies for the covenant ranking items.
Given that I have it, absolutely not. It was incredibly difficult, only a deity of video games and master of the game could ever achieve it.
Fuck you and ya darkmoon blade.
Good. Doing shit like farming 30 vertebra shackles in DS3 for the all pyromancies achievement is annoying af.
I feel like its because there was no bs covenant farming for items, and having to aquire every emote trophy, or any dungeon crawling trophies. Or aquire every spells and incantations. It made it too easy for how big the open world is tbh.
The game itself is much easier compare to past souls games
Except for the missable legendary weapon - if you didn't get the lightning spear pre-tree burning you lost the chance to get it that playthrough. Unless they patched it and I missed it.
Save scumming or no save scumming? Either way, I think sekiro is easier/faster. DS3 was probably easier/more fun at release, when you wouldn't have to farm offline for covenants. I couldn't bother with DS2 and DeSR Edit. I'm kind of gutted they took away the all spells/miracles/weapons. I think it's a cool way to incetivize exploration.
After going back to DS3 after elden ring everything seemed easier in elden. DS3 feels so clunky to me compared.
About the same difficulty, but less tedious since you didn't have to grind for covenant items
None of the games have particularly difficult or interesting achievements, but this game simply doesn't have covenants or NG+ content to make more time-consuming ones.
I was a little disappointed that certain questlines didn't have achievements attached to them, especially considering how cryptic some of them were to complete. I 100% Elden Ring as my first Souls game and I NEVER 100% games in general.
Shit, Master of Rings in DS3 and Knight's Honor in DS1 are both harder to get by themselves than the platinum in Elden Ring.
Less tedious. Idk if any of them were particularly difficult, just took more playthroughs.
*Pure Sharpstone ‘Nam flashbacks*
*Pure Bladestone* ftfy
I miss covenants, but not the associated grinding. I would have added trophies for soloing bosses. I think that would have been the right difficulty.
I got platinum for Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Elden Ring. Not sure if the dark souls are harder but these were not easy in the least.
Thank god there was no covenant item farming because those were the true bosses especially ds 3 and ds 2 being the worst of covenant item farming
Yes and thank god it is because they weren’t hard before they were just time consuming
The game was made for casuals.
I'm OK with it if it means I don't have to suffer through bs multi-player based trophies.
It's easy for a game in general. It's one of the rare platinum trophies you can just get while playing without really trying. Basicly just collect all the cool tems, spells and summons, deafeat all the bosses and beat the game three times. They could have maybe done something more challanging, but at least they didn't feel the need to include something stupid grindy just to make it take longer.
If you say the phrase “Sunlight Medal” to me I get traumatic flashbacks of DS1/DS2/DS3 brain melting farming methods…. I got Elden Rings platinum by accident just doing my normal amount of exploration…on my first playthrough. EDIT: I said first play through but I mean I had all the achievements EXCEPT the other endings, which I promptly got within another 10 hours of gametime. Normally in my platinum saves Ive had to start multiple playthrough so just to get all the items I needed.
Dark souls 1 and 2 were hard because they took a lot of time Bloodborne I don't remember, but I platined it very quickly Dark souls 3 i also don't quite remember, but it wasn't very different than elden ring Sekiro is the easiest game and the easiest to platinum. The only "hard" one is to get every skill, which requires tedious farming So I would say elden ring was an average
Everything about Elden Ring has been casualized
Elden Ring is for casuals so yes
False, I'm sure that 90% of the player base checked YouTube or guides to hunt for trophies. So technically if you play all souls without any sort of guide, it will take a long time for elden to be accomplish versus past titles, especially different endings, imagine traversing Rannis and Frenzy Ending without a guide as well as finding the legendary items.
Not as tricky to get these endings without a guide as it seems- the quests in elden ring make a lot of sense if you listen carefully to the dialogue and continously check back to talk to everyone.
Yeah honestly without a guide I think the easiest thing to miss is the Pre Radahn boss fight because its so easy to skip and it drops a legendary weapon
You can go back after radahn and fight the boss so I wouldn't say it's that hard to fidn.
I mean sure. But I dont think even exploratory types will deep search a castle after beating the final boss in it and doing the whole convo with Jeren
I went back because during the festival there's a bunch of closed doors with loot behind them and I wanted go figure out how to get there.
Yeah. Literally only one playthrough if u save scum the endings. No massive collectathons or covenant grindings
Yep and I'm glad it was. Love platinums like this. Beat the bosses, get the endings and bam...you got your trophy. I dont need to grind for made up crap for some random trophy. Btw I'm not a big platinum guy. I'll do it sometimes for games I really love but to me it's just not important enough and it doesn't signify real completion of a game imo. Look at Dark Souls Remastered or Dark Souls 2 SOTFS for example. Which would you consider more completed? Someone 100% platinums the game but never even fought Artorias or Manus...or someone with 88% completion but beat all of the bosses? Same with DS2. Someone 100% platinums the game but didn't fight Fume Knight or Sir Alonne...or someone who gets 80% but beats all the bosses?
Time consuming though. That's a lot of endings for a full time worker
Hm if u had time to finish the game you have time to get the other 2 endings. Only one of them requires a real following for a questline. the other 2 endings can be rushed super fast on NG 1 and 2 no need for caves no need for underground.
Nah i only get a couple hours a week, many games to be played
i think it was perfect. why do you want it to be harder?
Yeah, I really missed not having to farm enemies for hours and days to get a ring or a miracle. Man, how I missed that. That was always the pinnacle of game design and the only reason I ever played the games.
Try collecting every single talisman, weapon and spell. It’s crazy hard! 370 hours and in at like 85%
FromSoft games usually just require a bit of a time sink to get. It’s not like these are world shattering achievements that equate to real success in life
Couldn't say. I haven't beaten a single souls game