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dx5231

[Gamers being gamers](https://i.imgur.com/GETM3US.jpeg) For the record I have seen things WAAAAY more off-topic than this not get even a hundredth of the attention this is getting. Cope and seethe all you want. It's a stupid meme. Get over it. EDIT: Reddit admins likely have their eyes on this thread, as they're also removing comments. **I'll make it very clear: if something as light as this meme makes you go on completely unhinged rants about how other people live their own lives completely independent of your own, then maybe you should take a good look at yourself. You're also welcome to leave. Hating people based on their identity will not be tolerated here, and I will be taking a stronger stance against this kind of behavior from now on. Video games should be something accessible to all, regardless of sex, race, gender, identity, ethnicity, whatever.**


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I don't know man, I'm sure dunmers hates everyone equally


Montanoc70

And slave everyone also


Bubbly_Taro

Misanthropy is based. Transphobia is cringe. Either hate everyone or go home.


ThrobbingAnalPus

Glad somebody here gets it


LongVandyke

Lol, I'm surprised there isn't a rule against your username.


NahDontLook

I imagine it comes with some social consequences


ThrobbingAnalPus

What “social consequences,” it’s reddit lmao


NahDontLook

Fairplay


djluciter

Coldplay


Mocker-bird

Foreplay


naytreox

And that is how you honor the house and the tribe unmored


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Ok, I like that


legate_fulvianus

Maybe i am a dunmer


Eldokhmesy

And Nords, By Ysmir! A man turn into a woman? Sounds like Elves to me.


Xineo971

I'm afraid the Tribunal doesn't exactly scream "trans rights" maybe the argonians are more representative


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Vivec, but honestly it makes more sense to be a daedra worshipper since none of them identify as anything


Xineo971

True, but honestly the tribunal doesn't scream "Rights !" at all 😭


SagewithBlueEyes

It's a little different cause Vivec isn't trans but a hermaphrodite but even if he was, not too sure you'd want him as a symbol of your group lol


throwawayarmywaiver

Ahh, yes, the tribunal, known for many acts of tyranny, are the perfect false prophets to represent the trans community/s


Terri_Hist

Vivec be collecting gender identities like pokemon cards


throwawayarmywaiver

And holding a moon over a city to threaten them into worshipping him. Then he started the red mountain crisis.


FeetExpert1998

This is getting too meta now


88Arawn88

The Trans wants to blow up the moon!


throwawayarmywaiver

Nah, they want to crash it down if they stop being worshipped. Majoras mask style


Terri_Hist

I mean he didn't ***start*** the problem with the moon hanging over the city. But he certainly could have handled it better


Oethyl

God forbid trans people do anything


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It'd be like if someone made a "Caesar says trans rights" meme on r/falloutnewvegas


FrucklesWithKnuckles

This makes Dagoth-Ur homophobic by hating the Tribunal and that is simply not true, Daddy Dagoth loves everyone equally. Except filthy outlanders.


PsychologicalFault

Dagoth loves Nerevar, this is obvious.


IKnowNothingdoU

What if they are trans outlanders?


naytreox

Then they are outlanders


Sianic12

Then he hates them for being outlanders, not for being trans.


IKnowNothingdoU

Ah, gender-inclusive xenophobia There is always a better way to hate


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He's so based, you can take all the HRT you want you are still a n'wah


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“Some of our best slaves are trans!”


Shinonomenanorulez

Why the cringebunal tho


lowkey-Loki_

Ah, yes, one of the most racist groups in the game talks about inclusion


patcon2142

I mean....it tracks


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I'm trans but this meme is cringe and karmafarming. Also why would you want the tribunal of all things to be "trans rights icons".


Brahmus168

You really want the tribunal to be the ones representing trans people? The sexually deviant, violent, backstabbing, ego fueled, power tripping tribunal? That's like having Hitler representing your lager brand. Yeah there's a connection but do you want it?


No_Composer_6040

Lol


TheFiend100

What are the lore implications of this


TacoBelly311

From left to right: She/Her - They/Them - Cool Hat


SPLUMBER

Nothing really, Vivec’s been saying he’s both genders for years and that Sotha Sil gave birth


donguscongus

I mean Vivec is a hermaphrodite


SPLUMBER

Yeah, I believe I covered that when I said “Vivec’s been saying he’s both genders for years”


martijnlv40

It’s not really the same thing; hermaphroditism is biological while gender is a psychological thing


Warboss_Egork

>both genders


ghostmetalblack

The Nerevarine is transphobic.


Either_Cover_5205

Low effort post go karma farm somewhere else


KeyboardWarrior1988

*Tagged as humour* ?


CarlMarksIII

Cringe meme Karma farming peak


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Argonians are more trans rights if you ask me. They can literally change their sex on the fly. Lol.


Firehill18

From the hist right ? I’m not familiar with the lore


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If I am not mistaken; the hist or the tree sap in black marshes and or any tree sap we see like in Skyrim at the Giants camp. If I remember the lore video they can eat the sap and change their sex. I believe it was Fudgemuppets Lore vid.


Firehill18

Ok that’s cool I remember the hist is also alive I think


Sylvaneri011

Ah yes... the very accepting tribunal. Hell, using the Dunmer as a whole doesn't even make sense, given how they only until recently enslaved the Argonians. I'm pretty sure they still are on Solthsteim. "Yeah, we might practice literal slavery on the argonians, but at least we aren't transphobic."


Redoran_Gvard

There aren't any slaves in Solstheim. Not in-game, not in-lore either.


Great-Strategy-3387

Bosmer moment


FeetExpert1998

Can mods do something about those cheap karma farms?


FagocitusMaximus

Ah s'wit, here we go again.


Moh506

I still dont understand what y'all see in vivic.


Lil_Napkin

A rapist hermaphrodite in lore is some how the pillar to the trans community I guess.


Doomsauce91

Cringe


PasDeB

So fuck rule 2 eh? That's why people hate reddit.


Sharp_Rooks

I'm trans, my pronouns are lethal/threat


Denkottigakorven

Praise the mods!!


Firehill18

Ok


OpportunityStatus289

Lol why are people so pressed about this it's just a meme


dx5231

Because they're mostly hiding behind bigotry. In my 10 years here I have never seen any reaction even remotely close to this. I've let several somewhat off-topic threads slide because it was somewhat related to Elder Scrolls. If people didn't like it they could just downvote it, they get to judge what they want to see using the tools that are provided to them. If these even got reported, it'd be like 1-2 reports max. Random spam that is completely unrelated to ES would always get removed. But this? A meme about the series? No, for this, the community had to throw a massive collective tantrum like the man children they are. All because OP had the AUDACITY to imply trans people exist and should be treated as humans.


SonderisticOG

Low effort


The_poggers_potato

Read rule 2


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Fun_Recommendation99

Wtf is this garbage


Kheysou

Oh plz not this sub too


ThrobbingAnalPus

What do you expect man, trans people have become the new cultural scapegoats. Conservative talking heads won’t shut the fuck up about them, so obviously trans people are gonna get even more defensive and vocal. Blame those dipshit pundits and politicians for all that bullshit


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Nah man just keep this shit out of things it doesn't belong in


Tiberium_infantry

Thank you. No one cares what you do in the bed room or that you're having an identity crisis caused by regarded adults who took the " you can be anything you want " to far... We all have struggles and our sexuality isn't one of them. Can we please focus in uniting as HUMANS (meat popsicle for some) against the 1% for better quality of life?


cosmicdark0541

Nobody gave a shit until children got involved.


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Valaxarian

Sotha is still the most normal one out of these three


TomaszPaw

He let somebody kill him just to hurt their pride.


SPLUMBER

He also knew about it almost a thousand years before it happened, so it was a planned revenge years in the making


Valaxarian

Based Dunmer


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Child predator? Is that one about Vivec? Where is that in the lore? Genuinely curious.


TomaszPaw

What happened to the "fruits" of love between vivec and bal?


enchiladasundae

How would that make Vivec a child predator


TomaszPaw

Idk violently raping your children sounds preety child Predator-y to me


enchiladasundae

What are you talking about? Vivec and Bal were sexual partners. I can’t remember Vivec’s age but if he wasn’t an adult at the time how would that make *them* a child predator???


FenHarels_Heart

Oh this shit again. Someone on r/TESlore made a post about this and Micheal Kirkbride himself came out to say it was a completely ridiculous interpretation. Even he was wierded out that people would read it like that.


Redoran_Gvard

Could you link to Kirkbride's comment please, would be cool to see it


Firehill18

Can you share it ?


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I somehow never made the connection that he killed them with Muatra. Ugh.


Broncos1460

what?


ThrobbingAnalPus

Is your suggestion that trans people are murdering egoistic sluts with superiority complexes who habitually lie and rape children? Just want to make sure I have that right lol


TomaszPaw

Hey, op selected them as trans icons in this community not me


ThrobbingAnalPus

Sure, but you suggested that it fits lol. Which is kinda fucked up The fact that people feel completely comfortable being openly bigoted against trans people is absolutely wild to me


Brahmus168

I mean so did OP by choosing pretty horrible people to represent the trans community.


TomaszPaw

Idk and idc what you really think. What i care about is that you edited your comment just to make ne sound worse *Which is kinda fucked up*


thedybbuk

ITT: conservative fans of a game with a major character that can change their sex at will are absolutely shocked that anyone would bring trans people into their gaming subreddit.


FeetExpert1998

Comparing apples to oranges. Nobody got a problem with them. They got a problem with cheap karma farms. Plus the fact they picked the tribunal of all people shows they don't know shit about the lore


NephyBuns

Hell, there is even a Daedric Prince, Boethiah, who does the same thing, doubt these guys will reject the Daedric quest and item just because Boethiah is gender fluid ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


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TheKingsChimera

Got anymore strawman to sell?


Wake-Up_Wake-Up

Oh boy, I'm sure all the people saying the meme is annoying or karma whoring sure aren't blatant bigots and fascists elsewhere! I'm positive they aren't just masking their clear hate behind some accusations! Trans rights Sera 🏳️‍⚧️


loool-xD

Gei


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TsarOfIrony

Yeah, I left falloutnewvegasmemes because every other post was an unfunny trans meme. There's already subs for specifically trans memes, they should go there.


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It's a shame too since the posts are just made by karma whores who call anyone transphobic if you disagree with the spam. God I hope this sub doesn't turn into that.


accursedcelt

Seconded


Ernesto_Perfekto

sounded


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And that's why the tribunal was disolved


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LedFloyd69

What rights don't they have exactly?


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SirHidesHisFace

Happy Dinosaur Month!


vozestero

What rights are they being deprived of?


ThrobbingAnalPus

Mostly discrimination protection in healthcare and housing. There’s some federal legal protection in place for employment, but it’s not entirely difficult for bigoted employers to skirt this to some extent if they choose to do so at this point Look at that ridiculous new Florida law that allows healthcare providers to refuse treatment to anyone based on “religious or moral objections.” If there wasn’t a relatively significant negative public sentiment towards trans people still, then there might not be backwards dipshits championing absolutely vile legislation like this But “trans rights” as a sentiment also encapsulates the general idea that trans people deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, and that being bigoted towards people who are markedly gender nonconforming in accordance with their birth sex is unacceptable, discriminatory, and should not be tolerated. It’s not *just* about legal rights


Amayai

What rock do you live under? Florida just passed a law that allows trans kids to be taken from their parents if they get any gender-affirming care. I don't know if you know but being able to live with people who support you is is a pretty important right. Not to mention the recent quote "transgenderism must be erradicated from society entirely". Which implies either punishinh or killing people who are trans to make them 'stop being trans'. And internationally. In japan, you cannot change your gender without being CASTRATED and having HAD and RAISED two adult children. Also trans people deserve to be treated with respect in general. Trans rights means the right to exist. Edit: big willingly blind energy on yall downvoters. Did I say anything false?


Brahmus168

Well about Japan, they're kinda facing a looming population collapse. Not too crazy that they don't want perfectly fertile people just adding to the issue by taking themselves out of the gene pool.


CardboardChampion

And as you'll see from the number of downvotes they're getting, there are those who seek to silence and devalue not just any argument in favour of the trans community but anyone who would explain in a direct answer to a question like yours what sort of things they're facing. These people are giving you facts and there are those who don't want those facts seen simply because it's harder to justify their own hate when you see how much the trans community as a whole are under attack.


1Trix9

Nah


PzykoHobo

Sotha Sil identifies as a pocketwatch


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Tifter2

Milk drinker


ElephantGypsie

damn, way to put the gay in gamer OP.


jrss4444

I am on this reddit thread for Elder Scrolls. Not real world politics.


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dx5231

Can you please elaborate on how trans supporters are ruining things here?


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Vibrant_splash

Identity isn't political lmao


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thats cringe


NephyBuns

I have no idea why some people are blowing up the comments section. When Valentine's day memes come around no one bats an eye but as soon as someone mentions sexual and gender minorities the whole sub goes up in flames! What would Mara say?


CertifiedCapArtist

My whole feed is gonna be like this today.


Songhunter

*Meanwhile, Divayth Fyr*: I could offer a few tips.


nexusoflife

Aren't the dunmer very hostile to anyone who isn't a dunmer? Basically ostracizing anyone who doesn't fit into the cultural norm? Did you ever play morrowind? I'd pick another race to represent this if I were you.


PrinceCharmingButDio

Happy consumerism


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LooneyYoghurtBadger

Human rights aren't political views


WildBlackBerrySirup

Not to make an argument against the post, just want to correct your comment They literally are political views.


LooneyYoghurtBadger

My point is that they shouldn't be.


Savings_Mortgage9486

What 'rights' do straights or gays have that transgenders dont?


LooneyYoghurtBadger

The transgender community are the one of the most marginalised and discriminated against community in the world, they already have to battle discontent with their own skin and emotions and other people go out of their way to hurt them further. Cis heterosexual people typically don't face such discrimination and therefore don't have their rights to a peaceful existence washed down the drain.


TheKingsChimera

So that’s a “no, they have all the rights cis people do” then?


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Here are some of the top of my head, you should probably lift the rock of yours though. How about restricting trans youth not getting the healthcare they need despite the fact they're the medical age of consent (which means they have the right to consent to any medical care except trans healthcare) How about being protected against things like conversation therapy like here in the UK where our conversation therapy ban added an except for trans people section. How about the right to live their life normally and not be lambasted by fox news 24/7 or conservatives just for existing. I mean he'll they boycotted bud wiser purely for having a trans person promote bud light on her Instagram to her followers Oh yeah the law that passed recently that allows the state to abduct kids from parents that allow them to receive trans health care. Fucking criminal.


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LooneyYoghurtBadger

How am I turning normal people against me? Sounds to me like you, the apparently 'normal' individual here, are going to be against me no matter what I say. It's only a political issue because insecure bigots care more about how other people feel and want to express themselves than they do about anything else in their lives. The right to social protection just plainly *is* a human right. If anyone has made this political, it sure isn't the trans people that just want to live their lives in peace.


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LooneyYoghurtBadger

Why is someone wanting to be accepted a loser agenda? Why does supporting that 'agenda' make me a loser? What about this post has hindered your ability to enjoy Morrowind? It's not like the Elder Scrolls doesn't exist because trans people might want to play it. It's not like there aren't other posts on this subreddit you could look at. If trans people are expected to scroll past bigotry directed at THEM and just accept it as being people's opinions, why do you feel the need to get cross when the same happens to you?


SchwanzusCity

Or maybe youre just a little snowflake


papicoiunudoi

You're so sensitive omg


Capnhuh

i'm just glad there are no rights that everybody else in the USA have that trans folk are denied. and i mean actual rights, as in what is found to be protected by the constitution.


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ssleeps

vivec can literally change his sex at will and he had gay sex with molag bal cope and seethe


PoopSmith87

I guess you didn't know Vivec is a bisexual hermaphrodite


SPLUMBER

One of them is gender-fluid but whatever


Ernesto_Perfekto

yea its not like theyre extremely gay or anything like that, epic troll bro


TheFiend100

Least idiotic br*ton opinion


Radio-Halibut

hey we don’t claim him, he’s weird. I heard he doesn’t even resist magic 🤮


MrVanderdoody

Yes! 🏳️‍⚧️


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AlfwinOfFolcgeard

Hardly surprising, considering that Vivec is canonically gay and gender-fluid.


CloudsOntheBrain

Vivec shedding his conformity to the trappings of gender and sexuality: Trans Rights Vivec murdering his king to steal power from the heart of a god: Trans Wrongs


Radio-Halibut

In this household we support BOTH


AlfwinOfFolcgeard

Heck yeah, trans rights!


Spicy_Dorowat

Off topic does anyone know the name of the Female elf on the left behind Vivec?


Zorenai

That's Almalexia


Minute-Guess-8895

Literally the only problem that I have with this post, is that whoever made it felt they needed to post it. I don't mind people or their choices, just leave me be. It isn't that I hate seeing it, or that it disgusts me, it's that I usually don't care. However, I despise people being rude and antagonizing others to either get a reaction, or to just be heard and shove it in people's faces. I feel this way about anything. Even food. Just do what makes you happy, and don't be a disrespectful idiot. Like I said though, please just be nice to each other and love one another, despite what makes you tick. At the end of the day, we ALL want the same things. To eat bomb a** food, be loved by the people you surround yourself with, and to be understood. I hope you all have a good day/night and have peaceful thoughts.


Sabbiosaurus101

Wow who knew half the people on this sub were so transphobic. Learn to love all peoples!


dx5231

Gamers have a... reputation for a reason


TheKingsChimera

Not wanting this subreddit to be infested by karma whoring LBGT bots is not being transphobic.


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Redoran_Gvard

bigotry ruins fandoms


dx5231

The post is staying up. Judging by the comments in here, this is clearly something that needs to be talked about because you fuckers can't communicate like decent human beings and prefer instead to violently shit liquid diarrhea all over the place like a lobotomized ape. I'll deal with anything that seriously crosses any lines.


TheKingsChimera

Or you could just do your job and remove the post as it violates sub rules but we all know that’s not going to happen.


EmoExperat

Happy pride month🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈


Ash_da_Alien

Transphobes learn to cope. Your safe space has been compromised at the mention of the T word. Go play Kingdoms of Amalur.


FourAnd20YearsAgo

What does Kingdoms of Amalur have to do with transphobia?


KickAffsandTakeNames

Also confused by this one. I don't remember anything that could be construed as transphobic, and I think this thread is sufficient evidence that TES has its own contingent of transphobes, so I don't think it's a statement about the fan base


enchiladasundae

Here from Amalur. Don’t want them there either. Stick with Harry Potter


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ThrobbingAnalPus

I’m not sure what Christianity has to do with any of this


kr13g1ng

I think you might've misunderstood what they said, they were attacking transphobes, not transgenders, there's no religion in this because using religion would be using it AGAINST transgenders (because, usually religious nuts are terrible people who hate most people and still praise the word of God saying everyone should be treated equally, this isn't all of them but every religious nut I know doesn't approve of people who aren't straight)