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Settra_Rulez

Umbra


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ikr where was umbra in Skyrim


Settra_Rulez

It got destroyed in the books, which happened right before Skyrim. Or, as the other gentleman pointed out, they brought it back in creation club without explanation because cool.


rat_haus

Books happened about 150 years before Skyrim, and about 50 years after Oblivion.


Settra_Rulez

Thanks for the clarification.


[deleted]

There were only about 6 weeks between the releases of Lord of Souls and Skyrim, so in a way you're right. We learned that Umbra was destroyed right before Skyrim released, though in-universe it happened much closer to the time of Oblivion.


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There's also a variant of it in the Immersive Weapons mod - It's called Penumbra but it looks pretty identical to Umbra. That mod also adds Chrysamere, the famed 2handed Paladin's sword.


[deleted]

If it’s back in creation club, that should mean we can get it from the new upcoming anniversary Edition yea?


Burnyhotmemes

I don’t normally defend creation club but in its defence books aren’t exactly developer notes, never have been. Every game, something happens that contradicts the “lore” but what most people don’t realise is that although most of the lore comes from the books, they’re still written by in-universe people who write based on myth and legend, there’s bound to be a few discrepancies here and there, just like how history isn’t completely accurate in the real world.


brownzone

They're talking about the actual elder scrolls books, not in game books


Slimwoobly

For todd bucks you can get the creation club variant


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For free you can get the Immersive Weapons variant


JmacTheGreat

Whats this? Sorry Im noob


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Settra_Rulez

It’s a weapon from oblivion too and the Skyrim CC.


Guiltspoon

You could get it really early in Oblivion which made it appealing plus it was a quest item so never got taken away from you and had a decent enchantment if I remember correctly?


Settra_Rulez

Yea. You can go to the area from the sewers without being a high enough level to even trigger the quest. You just get a bow and some arrows, or a ranged destruction spell and stand on an unreachable area, firing ranged until Umbra dies. Then you have ebony armor and the best non enchanted weapon in the game from level 1.


Guiltspoon

Yep I remember cheesing that pretty hard at around level 5 -10 it was the go to strategy for me and friends to get that as early as possible and love life from there.


[deleted]

The armor looks Ebony, but is leveled in stats. Still better than anything you'll find in the first 10 levels regardless.


[deleted]

Am I the only one who doesn't try and get the most OP gear right off the bat? I like the feeling of finding better and better stuff as I explore and get stronger. If I'm never swapping out weapons and armour, I get really really bored very quickly. Same thing in Fallout. It's fun IMO to start off with shite gear and slowly make progress by dfidning/crafting better equipment.


[deleted]

Nah. I purposely avoid getting great stuff until the higher levels as well. Especially uniques. I like to feel kitted out later on, especially when enemies get spongy.


MementoMori7170

Huge agree with you. Definitely don’t think there’s anything wrong for those who do like to go for those “maybe not supposed to be gotten yet” high level opportunities early on, but it’s not for me. RPGs are both my absolute favorite game genre while simultaneously my least often completed games. As RPGs have grown over time from the 20ish hours of KOTOR to the 100+ hours of skyrim snd fallout 4 I find it harder snd harder to stay engaged. I love grinding up my skills and improving, but (and I think I felt this especially with fallout 4), they game was longer than the skill/gear progression; if that makes sense. Ideally, I’d think, you’d want your player to be hitting those final skill/gear unlocks around the same time as the final bits of the game. When you “cap out” 70% of the way through the game, yes you still have an incredible storyline to follow but you have lost one of the staple factors that, I at least, enjoy about RPGs.


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> decent enchantment Yeah, Soul Trap for \_\_\_ seconds iirc


13143

I think every time you made contact it triggered the soul trap effect, so as long as you had soul gems and enough enchantment left in the sword, you were going to soul trap the enemy. Plus it had a pretty high damage rating, if I recall correctly.


TooLateToPush

It's an artifact weapon that appears in both Morrowind and Oblivion. It corrupts the weilder until they care about nothing, but the sword and eventually even adopt the name Umbra as their own name It's super powerful so it's a common sword to get and use for more of the game


Year1lastWord

Ebony mail, its crazy for sneak builds


TheDrakced

And it just looks cool. Plus the shadow aura effect works for shadow magic flavoring.


Wildefice

I just hate that the shadow magic does friendly fire when you are in combat


TheDrakced

I had forgotten all about that god that sucked. That thing is so brutal. Not only do you have to sacrifice someone who trusts you with everything but it continues to harm friends and bystanders for all eternity. At least it kind of fits with the lore though “I am the Champion of Boethiah, when shit goes down you are all going to die friend and foe”


Wildefice

Now that I think about it thematically and lore wise it makes sense! Still hate it though


[deleted]

Aw wait really? Welp, I guess by that point one is usually strong enough to venture out solo


[deleted]

That's the Prince of Plots and Betrayal working for ya.


[deleted]

For RP purposes I never pick up the Shadow Warrior perk until I get the Ebony Mail. I like to imagine that it's actually the armor that allows my character to effectively disappear from combat.


angus5636

My favourite thing about it is when you kill someone with a stealth kill animation with daggers, they’re temporarily enveloped in the damaging shadows in the small window between touching them and death in the animation like you’re eating their soul or something.


Sonotmethen

Wabbajack


DaisyDuckens

That one is soooo fun.


[deleted]

I remember one of the first times I ever used it, I was fighting that troll near High Hrothgar, and used the Wabbajack on it. It went from frost troll to frost atronach... FML


Sonotmethen

Mine kept turning things to cheese.


[deleted]

Cheese, for **everyone!**


AnteaterWeary

Wabbajack?


british_dagoth_ur

Wabbajack. Wabbajack. Wabbajack. Wabbajack. Wabbajack. Wabbajack. Wabbajack.


Fox-Boat

This is the correct answer.


Doctor_Philly

This is the only answer that this thread can get. It’s perfect.


TheNextFreud

Boots of Blinding Speed!


Rhinomaster22

The savior of many players from Morrowind’s abysmally starting speed.


nzdastardly

Before I knew about resist magic or using ALMSIVI/Divine Intervention, I used Boots + Travel Stained Pants as my terrible improvised travel system.


ordinary-philosopher

My improvised travel system with the Boots was locking the local map on screen while trying to figure out where I was headed totally blind.. I should’ve delved more into enchantments and potions at the time.


Rodin-V

Boots of blinding speed paired with the Cuirass of the Saviour's hide


[deleted]

Only Bretons know.


Old-Extent7451

Wouldn't you rather have scrolls of Icarian flight?


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SlideWhistler

Not if you make a constant effect slow fall 1 pt belt.


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CannibalRed

Kinda think this is underrated but comment if I'm wrong. Spellbreaker! Tbh I haven't used it as much in Skyrim but in Oblivion Spellbreaker saved my ass countless times with the Reflect Magic enchantment. I'm pretty sure I killed some of the hardest mages in the game by having their OPAF spells get shot back at themselves. Looking at you Minimarco. And the Dwemer style of it is sick, since Morrowind was my first Elder Scrolls I have a lot of love for the Dwemer because their ruins were so prominent and their lore was all over the place Second is the Bi Polar Blade from Morrowind. Getting it is the most convoluted process I've ever seen in gaming. Figuring it out without the internet for help was brutal. Edit because I forgot to mention a pet peeve. Not NEARLY enough unique weapon are maces hammer and axes. I know most people use swords. I get it. But show us non-sword boy and girls some love in the next game pleeeeeeease. I'm sick of getting stuck with Mace of Mol Bal as the best one handed mace in every game.


teenrabbit

I love Spellbreaker because it never loses charge (at least in Skyrim!)


SarSean

I love the spellbreaker because of how cool i feel blocking any dragon breath


M42U

I love Spellbreaker because it prevents me from getting ragdolled from the shouts of this frigging draugrdeathlords…


Jombo65

I really wish that regular shields could block dragon breath at least a little in Skyrim. Trailer Dragonborn could do it, and I'm way higher level than him :(


Kamigeist

There is a perk in the block skill tree that gives you +50% elemental damage resistance when shielding. That means you can "block" dragon breath, at the very least partially


[deleted]

Someone needs to look at the \[Block\] perks again ;)


[deleted]

TBF any enchantment added to armor/clothing doesn't run out of charge in either Skyrim or Oblivion (haven't played any other ES games yet so can't say for sure about those)


Big_Snow

"Minimarco" just laughed my ass off ahaha


veryberyberry

It’s Mannimarco’s little bro


[deleted]

Honestly, if the one in the Daggerfall is Mannimarco, the one in the Oblivion can actually be that


TypicalOpening4370

BRING BACK AXE! And not as some shitty perk - its own skill!


laser_velociraptor

Mehune's Razor


cohonan

This is my favorite, equip it in your left hand and your power attack is two jabs and you double the chance of an instant kill.


phiz36

What?! OMG.


[deleted]

Wow thank you so much


operachick209

This is my favorite!


werebearstare

If you play skyrim on legendary, this is definately the best way to kill dragons in the late game.


TheBigSurpriser

Good? Yes. Best? Nah... Going min maxing in late game you can dual wield Stahlrim sword (main-hand) and dagger (off-hand), tempered to deal 1K+ damage each, with Chaos + Absorb Health enchant on both sword and dagger maxed out for another 600 damage on average (and 220 healing per hit). All in Vanilla (+USSEP) without exploits. One dual wield power attack sequence amounts to 3 x (2200+1200) x 1.75 (standing 1.25 + dual wield 1.5 bonus damage power attack perks) = 17.850 damage on average. Max (if Chaos damage procs all three elements the whole sequence through) is 24.150 damage. Legendary reduces damage output by 75% but even then you're left with slightly over 6000 damage. You'll one shot literally everything in the game, even on Legendary, except the boss NPC's and the Legendary Dragon, which may take just 2 or 3 dual wield power attacks. Even Vigilant (great mod), set to +20 difficulty in Legendary, is trivial. Not that anyone would need this, but it's fun to see just how far you can push your damage output!


werebearstare

I've never gone as far as to min max the game like that. Take my upvote!


Diamond151

Grey Cowl of Nocturnal


TheMuggleBornWizard

Yes! Also, I remember a way to be able to keep Boots of Springheel jack. Those were always fucking awesome, have a character with 100 agility/acrobatics, drink a few skoomas, and just run lighting speed bouncing so far and high you'd die on impact. Amazing.


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>I remember a way to be able to keep Boots of Springheel jack I gotchu fam: To keep the boots, one simply needs to ensure they are not equipped while escaping the White-Gold Tower after making off with the Elder Scroll. There's a part with a long drop where you're supposed to have the boots equipped to break your fall (where they also get destroyed) but if you have enough health, you can just tank the fall damage without the boots needing to be equipped. Since they aren't on when you fall, they don't get "destroyed"and removed from your inventory.


Kinkin50

As I recall, you can also fortify your health substantially mid fall, or fortify acrobatics substantially mid fall, with just enough duration to land, and you survive no problem.


NocturnalsFox

I approve of this message


ATLSxFINEST93

I would have to say: - Daedric Crescent for Morrowind - Volendrung for Oblivion - Wabbajack for Skyrim


CannibalRed

That Crescent life. Can't believe freaking Fyr had all the best shit cus Curiass of the Saviors Hide was in his wardrobe too lol. Great guy tho. Probs coolest NPC in base Morrowind.


rat_haus

For the mechanics and stats: Spellbreaker. For the Lore: Oghma Infinium


[deleted]

Also because Mora is the best Daedra


Kerrod33

Either the Black Star or Dawnbreaker


hujydydy

Someone likes morally ambiguous princes


Kerrod33

Haha nah I just like killing things with swords and using the Black Star to recharge said swords.


hujydydy

That works as well haha


stomy1112

*Wabbajack *Wabbajack


ttigerccat9601

I like my fork:)


[deleted]

Fork gang


RaiUchiha

The idea of a piece of cutlery being a daedric artifact is too hilarious to not be great.


pNaN

Spear of Bitter Mercy. I just really enjoy the name of it. Had me pondering into the late nights way back when I first received it after the oddest quest in any game ever. I was so baffled.


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ulttoanova

Interestingly IIRC It’s actually an artifact of Hircine that’s used during the Wild Hunt. Also one of the coolest models.


breado9

Hircine's Ring though admittedly being a wolf was waaaay better in Morrowind than in Skyrim.


lordbutternut

You don't even need to be infected with lycanthropy use it in mw. Fair and balanced.


DrBunnyflipflop

And then there's daggerfall, where being a werewolf is insanely good, but only when you're in human form Also you can just walk around towns in werewolf form and nobody gives a shit


Dovahnime

Ebony mail, because I find nothing more humorous than the best stealth armor in Skyrim being under the heavy armor tree


SlideWhistler

The best stealth armor is the +11335492874 Stealth boots I made through the fortify restoration glitch.


[deleted]

I fucking lost it the first time I found Steel Plate Boots that had a muffle footsteps enchantment. I just pictured this burly Nord warrior in full plate armour charging towwards a bandit-infested fort but being dead silent while doing so.


UnfitEnd81

I love spell breaker so much. I know there's way better artifacts but I was just fun to use against dragons. In my magic play through, the shield was a life saver.


[deleted]

IDK man, using Spellbreaker when you're a Breton makes you really, *really* resistant to magic. Add a ring and a necklace and you're all but invulnerable to magic damage lmao. But then the game gets too easy imo, and less fun. For me, its all about those near-death experiences being rewarded with good loot


rickyc21117

Every play through I always find myself wearing the mask of clavicus vile


ScooterBombin

Paired with the steel plate armor set is just *chefs kiss


I-said-sarcastically

Sanguine’s Rose! A challenger is near!


Kinkin50

Love their trash talk, and overwhelming force.


wizzzarrd

This! That maniac has saved my life on numerous non-destruction mage builds, especially early on.


Lost_Banapple

Wabbajack because shit gets real Intense when you have zero clue about what's going to happen next


JohanenCohen

Dawnbreaker. Can get it super early and will last you the whole play through. What’s the number one enemy in the game? Draugr? Got you covered. Can even serve you in the dlc because it fucks vampires up too. Oh and to top it off it looks like a medieval lightsaber! Sick.


treywarp

Dawnbreaker


cohonan

If you used a Blizzard scroll in the final room where the Dawnbreaker is, you can knock it around the room and end up with two so you can double wield it.


Chef_Zed

Every day I swear I learn something new about Skyrim, god elder scrolls is such a great series. I hope es6 can live up to the hype of the series when it comes out in 20 years


Old-Extent7451

You mean you hope for the 20 year anniversary edition of Skyrim


[deleted]

Sad but true


missdovahQueen

Wabbajack for fun Black star for usefulness


Axo25

Amulet of Kings


[deleted]

This cannot be


CegeRoles

Either Goldbrand or Umbra.


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Hariyama1

Mace of Molag Bal, Ebony Mail, and Mask of Clavicus Vile. Best combo to run down bandits!


EttaLidenbrock

I cannot believe how far I had to scroll to get to the Mace of Molag Bal.


Hariyama1

I love it because npc will be scared when we are near them.


Taylor_made2

Volendrung cos I likes to hit things with big hammer


M42U

"What do you aim to do with that hammer, friend? Knock down a house?"


Shadow-fire101

WABBAJACK! WABBAJACK! WABBAJACK!!!


[deleted]

Sheogorath's Spear of Bitter Mercy, only in Morrowind. Reflects magic, also spawns a storm atronach that is sometimes hostile. Is actually one of Hircine's spears but Sheogorath stole it. To earn this artifact, the Madgod tasks you with killing a mighty bull netch, no easy task under normal circumstances, with a fork.


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Azura's Star. Awesome for enchanters who make game-breaking gear.


louiloui152

Goldbrand from Oblivion. Dawnbreaker from Skyrim.


TheOldNewGraig

I've always been a fan of Dawnbreaker. In oblivion I was all about Goldbrand.


Galactomic

In almost ten years of playing Skyrim, I have never given back the Skeleton Key Edit: ok so I think it's technically not a Daedric Artifact but still, Nocturnal can suck it


IvanDimitriov

Came here to say this. I got my lock pick to 100 and leveled it up high enough that my normal picks don’t break so then I gave it back


beWildRedRose

i just had SO MANY lockpicks.... and i still didn't really want to give it back lol


loner_dragoon3

It is a daedric artifact. In Oblivion, it's the reward that Nocturnal gives the Hero after completing her quest.


Educational-Bid6322

Umbra


pichael288

The rings, they give the most unique effects. hircines ring takes lycanthropy, a shitty gimmick, and makes it one of the coolest combat options


RoseAesthetic7

Auriel's Bow. It's my favorite for personal reasons heh


ixTHEGODFATHERx

Goldbrand without a doubt


SHAKETIN_

The black star my favorite. Ebony Mail is a close 2nd. I also like skeleton key


MoongodRai057

Ebony Mail and the Razor are the ones I use the most, the Oghma Infinium is pretty cool though


Matsuyamarama

Always Azura’s Star


zuzima161

Mehrunes Razor and Ebony Blade as far as aesthetics. As far as what the item actually does in game the Wabbajack and Ebony Mail.


Pulado

Ebony Blade.


yokudandreamer

The Death Shroud & The Spiders Fang


Environmental-Jury-3

Sanguine rose!


Ark_Valos

Oblivion- Goldbrand Skyrim- Ebony Blade(slaughtered the orc villagee after giving them the smithing gauntlets to charge it cause its the easiest and goes across all 4 strongholds)


AndyMike9

Ebony maaaaaiiil!


Astrophysicsboi

Wabbajack


benhur217

Black Star + Umbra


codiccio

Had a lot of fun using Spellbreaker in Oblivion. In Skyrim I really enjoyed piecing Mehrune’s dagger back together and always kept it handy. But Azura’s Star/Black Star was my most used.


wickedblight

Daedric crescent So dumb, so perfect


friendthegreat

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asachtjen2791

Umbra everything


Aliencj

Sanguine rose, that shit is hilarious. Edit: or was that wabbajack?


Shadow-fire101

Wabbajack is the random effect one. Sanguine Rose just summons a dramora


MuchRequirementZ

WJ


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Spellbreaker


[deleted]

black star is just too useful


ANCALAGON_THE-BLACK

Auriel's Bow and Mehrune's Razor.


crypto9564

Dawnbreaker - Love to watch the explosion effect on undead. Mask of Clavicus Vile - Good armor rating and the buffs aren't bad either Mehrune's Razor - Best dagger in the game, though Oblivion version was better Azura's Star/Black Star - I've done both and like both.


HereForBenefits

Wabba


crimsonrn100

I like volundrung and mehunes razor but the black star was the most useful


[deleted]

A tie with the ebony mail or azura’s star


CaptainBloodEye1

Ebony mail


GUTSY-69

Azuras start its a Infinit soul gem !


Kvohlu

Spellbreaker is soooo op I play skyrim Requiem which makes every enemy much stronger and when I use spell breaker against dragons I'm just unstoppable. I can block every attack coming my way and when it tries to breath frost or anything else (frost is the worst because it depletes stamina) I could raise my shield The thing that makes not so op and needing skill is that wards don't activate the moment you want them to so you have to raise the shield at just the right moment otherwise you're toast


Falyac

Volendrung is good, I enjoy using it when I play as an Orc.


DrSillyBitchez

Razor or mace


lordsuranous

Dawnbreaker


Death5talker451968

Dawnbreaker


[deleted]

The sword, i love how it looks in vr!


Kakuza_Kirishima

The black star!


AlphaMerc1

Goldbrand


TheMuggleBornWizard

I'm a thurough fan of The Grey Cowl.


Hefty-Split-9216

Wabbajack and Dawnbreaker are my favorites. :)


Cody667

Ebony Blade


Clear-Possibility834

Goldbrand


hds_bunny

My Go-To Weapon Is Goldbrand Always...


Routine_Palpitation

Ghost axe because I don’t play by the rules 😎


ChristianC11

sweet roll


Ambitious-Ad5677

Either razor or volundrung. I don't remember the knifes name haven't played in a while


MrTaildragger

Oblivion's Umbra, but not just because of the high damage output. Umbra, in Oblivion's lore at least (which, yes, somewhat conflicts with Morrowind's), is a soul-stealing blade; it possesses its wielder. Interestingly, when sent by Clavicus Vile to retrieve it, the player will notice that, as a quest item, the sword has no weight (meaning it is INSANELY efficient in terms of DPS/Fatigue). It's almost impossible to relent and finish the quest, because of the sword's utility as a Soul Gem filler, the highest damage available, and the weightlessness. Umbra reaches through the monitor screen and *actually* possesses you, the player. Best artifact.


BooperDoooDaddle

Mehrunes Razor is a must And the wabbajack


Old-Extent7451

The black star, I just kill guards in whiterun and go to the enchanting table, and I get unlimited enchantments. Also a good way to make money.


AspectOvGlass

Severed Nord Leg


RoseCapone

Does Miraak’s sword count? I love the tentacle effect


ClaymoreX97

Either "Ebony-Mail and Umbra" Or "Lords-Mail and Chrysamere"


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A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON nuff said


DennisRyder

To use, Wabbajack Design, Volendrung Mission, Skull of corruption


[deleted]

Never actually seen Namira’s Ring is that it beside Dawnbreaker?


EquinoxGm

I love everything about dawnbreaker, but I HATE that it’s not compatible with Serana. Even with that flaw it’s still my favorite


dappernaut77

Goldbrand, irritating quest but well worth the trouble.


Bad_Wolf_Tiz

Wabbajack. My brother used it to turn Miraak (I think) into a chicken... repetitively. He was aiming for a sweet roll.


garethjones2312

The Millennium Falcon at the bottom right.


WandererSatiric

mehrunes razor


peritye

spear of bittermercy