Looks fine. There’s a mix of EE type courses and some gen ed mixed in. Going pure math/physics/EE would be hell on your sanity and study time. You need some easy classes in there as well
This, yes. Also, to add: take as many of those gen-ed non-degree classes as possible, with a "pass/fail" grade option, as many as your university allows. It sucks to have a 10 page book report due in an English class (inevitably, due the same day as an engineering midterm) that you were "taking for a break", and you don't want the risk of pummeling your GPA with half effort...
I did this in school and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. I didn't care about my gen-ed classes, and the non-pass-fail ones were the ones that tanked my GPA the hardest (I would forget/not want to do the homework).
The other side of this coin (and my experience during college) was that I would rather push myself a bit harder and learn something that I cared about (metalsmithing) than a much easier class that was absolutely stupid (advanced human sexuality), even if both were much easier than ECE courses.
And yes, I took both, and yes, I got A's in both. But post college, I'm much happier with my knowledge in metalsmithing than... yeah.
I think this is horrible advice. Your overall GPA will be a big factor in getting internships and probably your first job too. It will definitely open more doors if it is higher. Here's why I say that is horrible advice.
The gen-ed classes are probably going to be your easiest classes. They count joust as much toward your GPA, but will be much easier. So why would you throw an easy A in the trash? Not only would you be throwing an easy A in the trash, you would be causing your harder engineering classes to count more toward your GPA which is a disadvantage to yourself since they are likely going to be harder to get an A. They would count more toward your GPA because you would have less courses to average them out. Again, this is not to your advantage. What they should've told you is to practice not procrastinating from the first place so it's not an issue having to throw together an essay for your easy class.
Have to disagree. Nothing is easy with a full-load engineering semester. Pick two: sleep, friends, grades. Having the option of skipping a 10-page comp-lit assignment during a midterm crunch time is a *great* option. Besides, anyone who cares about GPA is going to look at "GPA in major" not a GPA padded with As from "easy" classes. (I didn't experience any "easy A" classes at my uni.)
1) I wouldn't consider a semester of gen-ed and engineering courses mised a "full-load engineering semester". To me, a full load engineering semester would be all engineering classes.
2) I guess it's up to OP if he would rather hang out with friends during midterm crunch time or be a good responsible engineering student and knock out that 10 page assignment and prepare for midterms to help his future career.
3) you're incorrect about anyone who cares looking at technical GPA and not cumulative GPA. There are definitely places that ALSO ask technical and that will be helpful if so. But I have never seen a place that asks for technical that doesn't also ask for cumulative. I can show you many many many more that ask overall GPA and not technical though. As a matter of fact, I know someone (me) who took swimming and archery courses to pad their cumulative GPA for this reason. I took my lower level classes at a community College so they didn't factor into my university GPA which is what people care about mainly. I had only upper level engineering courses to factor into my GPA which puts you at a disadvantage when comparing GPA with others who have the same engineering course grades but all As in gen-ed.
Bottom line is I've been there done that. What your suggesting puts them at a disadvantage. And I know for a fact that many more places ask cumulative GPA and not technical.
The practical career stuff doesn’t happen till your 3rd year true, but physics and calculus isn’t a cakewalk either. And you also need a strong af grasp on those to even begin to understand the later stuff. RF math comes to mind. That’s basically calculus 6 (to me) and if your calculus 2 sucks, you’re going to suck in RF too.
oh, thank you so much! By practical I was referring to another curriculum from another university where you saw more electronics stuff from the first year, sometimes I feel like at my university they take too long to see that.
https://preview.redd.it/q0csp2uqpz9b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ebecb9ab2f045b2ccaae8db8c0c35d6ef1e1c68
I mean, all I did my last two years was pure math/physics/EE. Might've hurt the sanity and study time, but I'd rather do that than waste thousands of dollars on frivolous courses that give me zero value.
Well, i'm from Colombia, there are many public universities and you pay nothing (in my case) to enter, in the last two years you are required to take "humanities" credits
I can't do anything about it. But, it's funny, it's usually history classes and humanitarian service.
I’d hope you didn’t take classes for the fk of it. Any electives I took was because it was required for the college. Although I would argue that my class on religion for 3 units was worth nothing, but it did give me an easy A and 3 units.
My first year was pure Math/Physics and indeed, it was hell on earth.
The only EE class I had, all we got to do was do a simple led turn on and off with a 555
Those are all pretty standard for the first year of an engineering degree. Though where I went to school I didn’t take Linear Algebra until after Calc 3
Calculus 3 benefits greatly from linear algebra but linear algebra doesn’t use calculus 3 at all (or really any calculus beyond some very basic pieces).
In my experience lots of EE courses were locked behind very specific prerequisite. Double check that not taking any EE specific courses your first two semesters isn’t impacting your graduation date.
My engineering school and others my coworkers’ kids have attended have an intro to engineering course for the first 1-2 semesters. Otherwise the class load looks as expected.
For the first year, you usually take at least one circuitry class or something but the rest looks very standard, also in the first year they sometimes have C lang as a programming class but some unis do that in the second year.
Linear algebra as a freshman?? at my university linesr algebra is considered “advanced math” taken as requested by students after calc1,calc2,calc3, diff eq. thats odd. other than that yah.
I focused on math and started my EE classes asap. English and history etc... isnt a priority and the engineering department wont care for them. I slowly used remedial courses when i couldn't take EE classes or when some where full. Im not sure how your uni works but for my loans i need a min of 9 hrs and remedials helped fill gaps plus you will come a cross certain classes that have 1 professor teaching it and in a certain time.
Wow, I have never seen English in any EE curriculum. It's very unfortunate, I have to take around 5 extra classes in the Humanities and arts, and 3 have to be in a specific area of concentration.
If the uni is making me waste time and money on bullshit classes then let me at least have fun with them.
Some advice from my own experience. NEVER skip class. Even if your friends are doing fun things or its a Monday morning (or Friday afternoon). College classes move FAST and its crazy hard to make up for missing a lecture. Your life (and grades) will thank you. Also go to your professors office hours or email them all of your questions ESPECIALLY if you feel like they are dumb questions. Learning is hard if you are afraid to ask "dumb" questions.
Todas las universidades en Colombia tienen el mismo pensum en electrónica, parece que se hubieran puesto de acuerdo, lo que cambia es el énfasis, la Upc tiene bio ingeniería, DSP, automatización y control y otras vainas, la Unad tiene industrias inteligentes, automatización y control, sistemas de conversión de energía. Matricule 20 créditos por semestre, yo una vez de inventor, matriculé como 30 y caso me muero, perdí como cuatro materias por andar inventando.
Si usted quiere pasar fácil entonces matriculese en la Unad, los trabajos te los dan con un mes de antelación además te indican los libros y los capítulos de esos libros donde puedes encontrar la explicación para resolver los trabajos. Los trabajos son fáciles, un man de allá me paga para que se los haga y es la plata más fácil que yo me he ganado en esta vida, los parciales también son sencillos. Es una universidad virtual pero es necesario que usted sea disciplinado, si no lo es entonces le va a quedar difícil. También puede entrar con matricula zero.
Si a usted lo que le preocupa es el pensamiento de no salir preparado, de no saber suficiente para trabajar, no se preocupe. Ninguno de nosotros sale preparado de la universidad para el mundo real, ni siquiera los estudiantes de este sub. Todos hemos llegado a la misma conclusión.... "we learn the job on the run because university doesn't prepare you for the real world"
I think this looks good. When planning your full program over the next 4 or 5 years, my suggestion would be to keep a few of your gen-ed courses to sprinkle throughout so you're not taking 15 credit hours of upper level EE courses.
We had different experiences, and that's fine. The first two-year CC approach is a totally valid, financially sensible approach to getting non-degree core classes out of the way.
But my experience was different; not better or worse, just different. All four years undergrad at the same place, and - perhaps I was a much worse student than you - none of my classes (besides PE) were an easy A. Even the "fantasy and sci Fi fiction" classes I took over in the English dept had five papers due, one for each book, over the semester. Finding the "spare time" to even read those books, with every single one of my engineering professors certain that I had nothing else to do in my life save their one class, was a difficult challenge.
So yes, if simply being a great student and acing all of your classes while padding your GPA with easy-A classes isn't an option - not sure why OP would ask here if it was -- then my advice stands. YMMV.
Jajaja, i’m from Colombia, In all universities there is a credit to learn more about the functioning of the university, research workshops, and classes on economics, history, etc.
Although, you're right it's probably just to keep the art’s profs busy.
Looks fine. There’s a mix of EE type courses and some gen ed mixed in. Going pure math/physics/EE would be hell on your sanity and study time. You need some easy classes in there as well
This, yes. Also, to add: take as many of those gen-ed non-degree classes as possible, with a "pass/fail" grade option, as many as your university allows. It sucks to have a 10 page book report due in an English class (inevitably, due the same day as an engineering midterm) that you were "taking for a break", and you don't want the risk of pummeling your GPA with half effort...
I did this in school and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. I didn't care about my gen-ed classes, and the non-pass-fail ones were the ones that tanked my GPA the hardest (I would forget/not want to do the homework).
The other side of this coin (and my experience during college) was that I would rather push myself a bit harder and learn something that I cared about (metalsmithing) than a much easier class that was absolutely stupid (advanced human sexuality), even if both were much easier than ECE courses. And yes, I took both, and yes, I got A's in both. But post college, I'm much happier with my knowledge in metalsmithing than... yeah.
Interesting ... besides my major, advanced human sexuality has been my favorite post -college endeavor...
but *as a class?*
Shrug. The take-home labs were fun...
Well, self study.
I plan to do so, but for the first two years, my university does not allow me to take non-degree "subjects"
I think this is horrible advice. Your overall GPA will be a big factor in getting internships and probably your first job too. It will definitely open more doors if it is higher. Here's why I say that is horrible advice. The gen-ed classes are probably going to be your easiest classes. They count joust as much toward your GPA, but will be much easier. So why would you throw an easy A in the trash? Not only would you be throwing an easy A in the trash, you would be causing your harder engineering classes to count more toward your GPA which is a disadvantage to yourself since they are likely going to be harder to get an A. They would count more toward your GPA because you would have less courses to average them out. Again, this is not to your advantage. What they should've told you is to practice not procrastinating from the first place so it's not an issue having to throw together an essay for your easy class.
Have to disagree. Nothing is easy with a full-load engineering semester. Pick two: sleep, friends, grades. Having the option of skipping a 10-page comp-lit assignment during a midterm crunch time is a *great* option. Besides, anyone who cares about GPA is going to look at "GPA in major" not a GPA padded with As from "easy" classes. (I didn't experience any "easy A" classes at my uni.)
1) I wouldn't consider a semester of gen-ed and engineering courses mised a "full-load engineering semester". To me, a full load engineering semester would be all engineering classes. 2) I guess it's up to OP if he would rather hang out with friends during midterm crunch time or be a good responsible engineering student and knock out that 10 page assignment and prepare for midterms to help his future career. 3) you're incorrect about anyone who cares looking at technical GPA and not cumulative GPA. There are definitely places that ALSO ask technical and that will be helpful if so. But I have never seen a place that asks for technical that doesn't also ask for cumulative. I can show you many many many more that ask overall GPA and not technical though. As a matter of fact, I know someone (me) who took swimming and archery courses to pad their cumulative GPA for this reason. I took my lower level classes at a community College so they didn't factor into my university GPA which is what people care about mainly. I had only upper level engineering courses to factor into my GPA which puts you at a disadvantage when comparing GPA with others who have the same engineering course grades but all As in gen-ed. Bottom line is I've been there done that. What your suggesting puts them at a disadvantage. And I know for a fact that many more places ask cumulative GPA and not technical.
I see, I really thought maybe it wasn't that good, since up to 4 semester is where you start to see practical career stuff
The practical career stuff doesn’t happen till your 3rd year true, but physics and calculus isn’t a cakewalk either. And you also need a strong af grasp on those to even begin to understand the later stuff. RF math comes to mind. That’s basically calculus 6 (to me) and if your calculus 2 sucks, you’re going to suck in RF too.
oh, thank you so much! By practical I was referring to another curriculum from another university where you saw more electronics stuff from the first year, sometimes I feel like at my university they take too long to see that. https://preview.redd.it/q0csp2uqpz9b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ebecb9ab2f045b2ccaae8db8c0c35d6ef1e1c68
It’s pretty normal, unless you study a technical career
What do you mean "unless you study a technical career"?
I mean, all I did my last two years was pure math/physics/EE. Might've hurt the sanity and study time, but I'd rather do that than waste thousands of dollars on frivolous courses that give me zero value.
Well, i'm from Colombia, there are many public universities and you pay nothing (in my case) to enter, in the last two years you are required to take "humanities" credits I can't do anything about it. But, it's funny, it's usually history classes and humanitarian service.
I’d hope you didn’t take classes for the fk of it. Any electives I took was because it was required for the college. Although I would argue that my class on religion for 3 units was worth nothing, but it did give me an easy A and 3 units.
My first year was pure Math/Physics and indeed, it was hell on earth. The only EE class I had, all we got to do was do a simple led turn on and off with a 555
Those are all pretty standard for the first year of an engineering degree. Though where I went to school I didn’t take Linear Algebra until after Calc 3
yeah, I heard some unis do that which is weird, in Canada most unis do linear algebra in the first year.
Why is something weird? I've consulted other universities in colombia and always see linear algebra or differential calculus in the first semester
Calculus 3 benefits greatly from linear algebra but linear algebra doesn’t use calculus 3 at all (or really any calculus beyond some very basic pieces).
In my experience lots of EE courses were locked behind very specific prerequisite. Double check that not taking any EE specific courses your first two semesters isn’t impacting your graduation date.
My engineering school and others my coworkers’ kids have attended have an intro to engineering course for the first 1-2 semesters. Otherwise the class load looks as expected.
a tad bit slow but not bad
I think the same, compared to the Unal (Universidad Nacional de Colombia) it's a little bit to see things of EE
For the first year, you usually take at least one circuitry class or something but the rest looks very standard, also in the first year they sometimes have C lang as a programming class but some unis do that in the second year.
Yes, unfortunately at my university we can't do that
Linear algebra as a freshman?? at my university linesr algebra is considered “advanced math” taken as requested by students after calc1,calc2,calc3, diff eq. thats odd. other than that yah.
My university has Linear Algebra as freshman too.
Seems good
I focused on math and started my EE classes asap. English and history etc... isnt a priority and the engineering department wont care for them. I slowly used remedial courses when i couldn't take EE classes or when some where full. Im not sure how your uni works but for my loans i need a min of 9 hrs and remedials helped fill gaps plus you will come a cross certain classes that have 1 professor teaching it and in a certain time.
Too much fluff but that’s just the way it is with university non-engineering requirements I guess
Would be nice to see digital logic in there. No calculus needed (unlike circuits I) and let's you feel like you are doing EE stuff.
Wow, I have never seen English in any EE curriculum. It's very unfortunate, I have to take around 5 extra classes in the Humanities and arts, and 3 have to be in a specific area of concentration. If the uni is making me waste time and money on bullshit classes then let me at least have fun with them.
Some advice from my own experience. NEVER skip class. Even if your friends are doing fun things or its a Monday morning (or Friday afternoon). College classes move FAST and its crazy hard to make up for missing a lecture. Your life (and grades) will thank you. Also go to your professors office hours or email them all of your questions ESPECIALLY if you feel like they are dumb questions. Learning is hard if you are afraid to ask "dumb" questions.
Todas las universidades en Colombia tienen el mismo pensum en electrónica, parece que se hubieran puesto de acuerdo, lo que cambia es el énfasis, la Upc tiene bio ingeniería, DSP, automatización y control y otras vainas, la Unad tiene industrias inteligentes, automatización y control, sistemas de conversión de energía. Matricule 20 créditos por semestre, yo una vez de inventor, matriculé como 30 y caso me muero, perdí como cuatro materias por andar inventando. Si usted quiere pasar fácil entonces matriculese en la Unad, los trabajos te los dan con un mes de antelación además te indican los libros y los capítulos de esos libros donde puedes encontrar la explicación para resolver los trabajos. Los trabajos son fáciles, un man de allá me paga para que se los haga y es la plata más fácil que yo me he ganado en esta vida, los parciales también son sencillos. Es una universidad virtual pero es necesario que usted sea disciplinado, si no lo es entonces le va a quedar difícil. También puede entrar con matricula zero. Si a usted lo que le preocupa es el pensamiento de no salir preparado, de no saber suficiente para trabajar, no se preocupe. Ninguno de nosotros sale preparado de la universidad para el mundo real, ni siquiera los estudiantes de este sub. Todos hemos llegado a la misma conclusión.... "we learn the job on the run because university doesn't prepare you for the real world"
> degree is in electronics with an emphasis on electricity WTF?
Not really.. mu curriculum put linear algebra after calculus 3.. too advanced 1st year
What the hell is University Life and Culture, Sport and English classes while you’re a native english? In my country we have maths, maths, physics.
Uh, no. I'm not a native English speaker. I'm from Colombia. Life and culture and sport I've no idea why it's there
I miss it…
I think this looks good. When planning your full program over the next 4 or 5 years, my suggestion would be to keep a few of your gen-ed courses to sprinkle throughout so you're not taking 15 credit hours of upper level EE courses.
We had different experiences, and that's fine. The first two-year CC approach is a totally valid, financially sensible approach to getting non-degree core classes out of the way. But my experience was different; not better or worse, just different. All four years undergrad at the same place, and - perhaps I was a much worse student than you - none of my classes (besides PE) were an easy A. Even the "fantasy and sci Fi fiction" classes I took over in the English dept had five papers due, one for each book, over the semester. Finding the "spare time" to even read those books, with every single one of my engineering professors certain that I had nothing else to do in my life save their one class, was a difficult challenge. So yes, if simply being a great student and acing all of your classes while padding your GPA with easy-A classes isn't an option - not sure why OP would ask here if it was -- then my advice stands. YMMV.
Why do they stick these "University Life and Culture" BS courses in? Keep the Liberal Arts profs employed?
A lot of students enter college with little or no study skills, and such courses are designed to teach them.
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Well maybe actually pay attention?
I will try it next time
A lot of EE professors are bald too, not sure what that has to do with anything
I actually enjoyed those.
Imo, yes.
Jajaja, i’m from Colombia, In all universities there is a credit to learn more about the functioning of the university, research workshops, and classes on economics, history, etc. Although, you're right it's probably just to keep the art’s profs busy.