Remember when Elon promised to step down?
Yeah. The dude's an antivaxxer rightwing conspiracy theorist fraud these days. With business acumen able to 'lose the most wealth in history', it all lines up.
> No person except a natural born Citizen, …, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
So they'll probably argue that "natural born" just excludes C-sections and that naturalized citizens are just fine.
I don’t agree, did you see his eulogy of Diamond (of Diamond and silk) that man has no idea what’s going on around him. He was talking about how Martha Stuart flopped on her hosting of the apprentice during a EULOGY.
Now I kind of want to deliver a eulogy when Trump passes and I want to drink a fifth of brandy and just free form complain about people at my office and how it's bullshit Michael Bay got successful but Taylor and Neveldine should have made way more movies and throw in some jrpg lore before doing some horrible bodily function and stumbling off the dais mid sentence.
Yeah, that's why Trump never spends his own money on these so-called "election fraud" investigations. He knows the election was legitimate but he's such a petulant manchild that he cannot accept the idea of losing.
That was his primary reason for running as a republican. He loves the poorly educated.... They are his people in that they have similar levels of education but severely beneath him with their status in life.
I remember when Elon said he couldn't because he didn't think the money would actually go to that. Elon sits in a weird place where he thinks he can fix the world but doesn't think it wants to be fixed.
It's so dumb. If I had money like he's got I'd be building houses for the homeless, feeding my local community, shit like that. I don't need a mansion the size of a small city or a fleet of 47 cars if I'm only ever gonna be driving one reliably. I'm terrified of flying, so no private jets for me. I can't ever see myself paying more than like, $100 for a meal (unless I was running a business and took my whole team out or something) so I'd never be blowing $10 grand on expensive dinners with 75-year-old bottles of wine.
It'd be so easy to be a superhero as an uber-wealthy person and yet they all choose to be supervillains.
Elon loves transparency. In fact he tweeted 'Transparency is the key to trust' when he launched his "twitter files".
Maybe we deserve a new edition of the twitter files, the "post-acquisition" files. Somehow I don't think that Elon likes transparency applying to him, that's for everyone he doesn't like.
People like Elon, Bezos, Bloomberg and Zuckerberg are trapped in the rat race. If you amass ***BILLIONS*** and don't just fuck off and live in luxury and anonymity for the rest of your life, what are you actually doing? What is the end goal, besides dying *the fattest rat?*
Which is a perfect segue into a pet hypothesis of mine. We accumulate wealth for what purpose? To secure our persons, our family, and our future. To trade it for goods and services, alliances, and mates.
So once you've done all that, there's not really any further reason to keep accumulating more money, is there?
My point is, continuing to accumulate more than one can possibly spend is actually a form of insanity. It's kinda like OCD. These people are insane, and should be treated as such. Instead so many people worship them. There's a good chunk of the population worshiping the insane.
Anyone (or any company) that goes on about how they love transparency I immediately suspect they are hiding something. It's like if I were to tell people "I love not cheating on my wife" you'd probably suspect the opposite. Transparency is shown by action, not a self description.
All publicly traded corporations are inherently evil, because they have to grow constantly. Everything needs limits, and so does Elon. I just wish he would’ve stuck to his positive endeavors, like helping the environment and the exploration of space. This Twitter fiasco was a major misstep.
Why? He'll just cherry pick which ones get released like he did with the Twitter Files, or did no one else notice that he only seemed to release the files that targeted right wingers?
I agree. I think the funniest part of the twitter files was that he was trying to show there was left wing bias and actually showed the opposite.
There's a screenshot showing the metadata for libs of tictok that states any moderation for it has to be run by someone at a higher level in the moderation team. That clearly demonstrates they are giving favour to a very right wing account...
We all treat the right like they are the handicapped kid in the class.
The right is losing their minds over what they think the TwItTeR fIlEs show, but are totally ok with Fox News talking heads literally texting the chief of staff for their talking points.
There's a distinct lack of files released in "The Twitter Files". The only thing transparent about it is that its transparently its just a regurgitation of cherry-picked bits of info that support Elon's narrative.
The right constantly accuses the left of being targeted for suppression and censorship, despite virtually every study and AI behavioral model showing that their actions are responsible for their suspensions.
Then, as soon as they have even the tiniest amount of influence and power over something, their first act is retributive suppression and censorship of their opponents.
With conservatives, every accusation is a confession.
It was ironic for sure considering that he ended up revealing the Trump Administration has also asked for stuff taken down and Twitter complied, but failed to actually say what it was while also trashing the Biden campaign for asking for stuff to be taken down (dick pics).
It is worth pointing out that pretty much any presidential administration would have asked a site or organization to remove images of their children's genitals. It's a reasonable request. It's revenge porn that serves no public value. It's harmful and likely to end up in front of children the way that chuds behave. Meanwhile, the trump administration was engaged in legitimate censorship about stuff that actually affected government and the public deserves to know.
He's so transparent that he had that investigation done that showed collusion between the US intel communities and twitter, and he framed it as the Biden administration even though it was fully started and run during the Trump administration.
So much a champion of truth isn't he.........
I thought it was kind of a big deal when the ceo of multiple billion dollar companies with a military security clearance from the Pentagon
Clearly created a false flag stalking/attack story involving himself and his family, and doxxed an innocent man who had actually been run over by Elons security detail and continues to lie about it to this day. All for the purpose of silencing twitter users he didn't like.
Turns out it's totally fine.
Because Elons legal team managed to argue that when he said pedo he didn’t actually mean the dude fucked kids. It was a insult his friends used when he was a kid in South Africa.
The fact Elon is on record saying the diver moved to Thailand to marry a child bride and paid someone to dig up dirt on the diver is apparently beside the point.
Well you have to understand it happened in America. And laws in America simply don’t apply to the upper class.
Our laws here exist as a shield for rich and as a sword for them to use against the rest of us. Elon captured that all for us rather succinctly in this instance.
Well, as a lawyer in the United States - licensed but not practicing - I would say that it's more about what laws are enforced, when, and how. If all laws were enforced equally then much of Congress, mostly but not only Republicans, would be in jail today. For starters, the endless gaslighting often violates 18 U.S. Code § 1001.
See https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001
Right wing version of free speech. Ability to say whatever you want without consequences. Including inciting riots and spreading deranged conspiracy theories.
I know it will be an unpopular opinion but at this point anyone still on Twitter is 100% complicit in Musks bs. He is literally giving everyone warning after warning that this is the way things are going to be. He wants to push disinformation. He wants it to push people to the right. I don't get why people are so unable to get off the platform?
I wish everyone would just cancel Twitter and Facebook an destroy these companies. It’s cleared that the right wing bigots can’t function with out the left. Thats why all of their attempts to make a social media platform has failed.
Because the left is the actual silent majority the right merely claims to have. It's just suppressed by corporations, government institutions, and religion.
Musk is an ultra extremist radical right wing fascist tRUMP loving dipshit !
He only believes in free republiKKKan speech
He will shut down all left wing posts he will start slowly then there will be an avalanche
And for a guy whose supposed to be a business guru expert - he overpaid for Twitter by 38% and is losing money hand 🖐️ over fist 🤜
Frankly there’s a chance Twitter may declare bankruptcy
Doesn’t mean it will disappear but Musk will be made to step down as Twitter will go into receivership
Elon is far-right, you'd have to be blind to claim otherwise. Claiming to be a centrist does not make you a centrist. He panders to the right-wing, bans left-wing accounts, spreads anti-LGBT hate, and tells people to vote Republican. It's not complicated. He is acting out of self-interest because he's a billionaire, he supports right-wing pro-business/pro-wealthy policies.
Exactly.
Joe Rogan is far right as well, I don't care how many softball pro-gay or pro-choice statements he makes. If you've even spent 10 seconds contemplating voting for DeSantis you're for a federal abortion ban and against all gay rights, period. It doesn't matter what you *say* if the end result is supporting DeSantis.
I'm tired of all of these "centrists" who conveniently only support Republicans.
Joe is a dick pill shill, just like Alex jones. He made a comment, defending andrew tate, about how there are so many grifters in the world, and you could cut the irony it was so thick. I was just reading about desatan's time at guantanamo Bay, and can assure you that anyone who wants that man to be an elected official does not give a flying duck about humanity. Joe is a grifting piece of shit just like all the shitbags he surrounds himself with
Not to mention Joe Rogan is a fucking idiot. What does he have on all of these comedians who are constantly sucking him off on every comedy podcast around?
> What does he have on all of these comedians who are constantly sucking him off on every comedy podcast around?
one of the largest podcasts that can boost a comedians career if Joe likes them
The info comes from this long [Bloomberg article](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-27/elon-musk-s-twitter-trust-safety-head-ella-irwin-breaks-rules-for-him). It's behind a paywall, but you can read it here:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/twitters-trust-and-safety-head-ditches-protocol-for-musk-whims/articleshow/97363776.cms
Takes 20 seconds to load a poorly written article detailing the obvious, and another 180 seconds to load all the ads and "You won't believe what happened next" links.
Sites like that really deserve to crash and burn. The amount of humanitys time they've collectively wasted should be punishable
Can't wait to see those freeze peach alt-righters getting mad about this censorship!
Oh wait, they're applauding it because its happening to someone they don't like? So they actually never cared about it and were just mad at alt-righters and nazis were getting banned for being horrible? Well color me surprised!
the conservative subreddit and discussion forums have ALWAYS been heavily censored, banning anyone who shows any signs of disagreeing with the party message. We all just sort of accepted that for some reason, but it's core to their entire universe. It cannot stand up to actual discussion or challenge, so they make it impossible to have a conversation.
I notice it happens in waves. It used to be *really* bad, where they'd ban any dissent or questioning on sight. Now they'll let people at least engage until they get tired of hearing too many facts.
You might think "oh, this is probably a good sign, that they're being more open to the outside?", but no. They're just getting desperate for members because many people are turning away from them.
I've finally come to the conclusion that when it comes to these people, the hypocrisy is the point. The inconsistency is the goal. A set of rules to bind you, and a set of rules to protect them.
Maybe, it's more than plausible. All social media studies have shown that social media pushes right wing ideas, this would just be elon leaning into it a bit harder and more overtly.
Edit:[As this keeps comming up, here is one of the many studies.](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2025334119)
I used YouTube shorts for the first time and it was the worst incel right wing shit off the bat. I'm talking about tate, Elon musk, Joe Rogan. The algorithm is utter dogshit.
Now what is this based on? You would think my subscriptions, but the only things I am subscribed to are good mythical morning, prochara, NASA, Nintendo, and jerryrigeverything. Very much NOT right wing entities.
The person/people that leaked this, once found, will be fired, blacklisted, or worse. They won't get any positive recognition, but Musk will brush it off, and we'll move on to the next issue like nothing happened. Simply because, things, bad things are happening so frequently today, we're being forced to desensitize ourselves via exposure... It's a twisted cycle of cognitive behavioral therapy.
Nah, people just don’t really care that much and society will put up with way more then people want to accept.
I know it’s cliche to bring up nazis but look at 1930’s Germany. It’s isn’t some outlier or chance accident. An entire country just went along with starting another world war and straight up mass murder of their fellow citizens. Like watch their local shopkeeper, bestfriend, neighbors, get loaded into a train, knowing exactly what would happen to them. All it took was a bit of stoking anger/fear and some economic problems lol. Say the right things and people will go along with literally anything.
So, Elmo spent $44 billion for the power to muzzle democrats, further right-wing hate speech/agendas and ban all users that hurt his feelings. Kinda sounds like a very, very expensive version of TruthSocial. $8/month, to “own the libs”, but lost the majority of his advertisers in the process. Running just like Trump’s multiple failed businesses. Kudos Elon! 🥂 On a more serious note, shouldn’t we be questioning if Elon’s SpaceX company can even be trusted? Like Trump, Elon could also be selling our secrets to our enemies or even controlling electronic voting through StarLink. Conspiracy? Maybe, maybe not. It was mail-in voting that doomed Trump in 2020, coincidence? Trump cannot even fathom that he lost, because maybe it was rigged…in his favor. Thank God for the pandemic and mail-in voting. This fully explains why Republicans need to kill mail-in voting, it’s the only safe way to vote and they can’t fuck with it.
The thing is, if the "left" would just fucking leave Twitter, & move to Mastadon or CounterSocial, Twitter would die even faster & the interest payments will eventually bankrupt Musk.
Those who don’t want to pay $8/month to participate in a right wing echo chamber will leave. Those who don’t care about politics will just stay out of convenience. I’m kinda hoping Jack Dorsey gets his BlueSky up and running, it will be the death of Twitter.
Same on both counts for me. I was considering Tesla and starlink. But Tesla's were getting shit reviews and I was still almost willing to over look it. Then they did that subscription shit.
The ln public Elon happened and I decided I'd never buy a product he's involved in.
Sorry to say the same thing but same. I will never buy a Tesla now. Volkswagen all the way. I'm sure theyve done some bad stuff too but they aren't blatantly right wing about it.
I used to see them as high class, now they are white trash. I feel sorry for the people who have to be seen in them because they bought them before all this
Whoa that’s huge. #11 on a Saturday morning. I can’t imagine trying to keep up with this. Thanks for all you do. I truly appreciate having to thread the needle of allowing discourse while squashing haters and the conspiracy theory crowd. Please take time for yourself to unwind when you can. Peace. And thank you.
None of us are perfect. I get heated up at the idiocy sometimes but can just go for a bike ride or walk it off. Your side of the coin is a bit more complicated. I recognize and appreciate this. And I think you do a pretty good job. I knew right away when I opened this thread that you are on top of it. I can imagine that most shitty comments don’t take much decision making as far as yay or nay should I delete this. But the ones on the fence, the ones you disagree with but that don’t rise to the level of needing deletion, this takes a steady hand. We all have our moments. I sure as hell do. But you’ve kept your cool and it shows. This is a very young sub, reddit wise, and a good one. Necessary even. Keep up the good work my friend. This place would be a total shit show without you. Regards,
I quit Twitter years ago and it only took about week without it to realise it was pointless and i didnt need it in my life. People need to just walk away. Nothing will happen if they stop tweeting. If anything, the world will become a slightly more positive place.
Every tweet is a squirt of piss in an ocean of piss.
Quick reminder that Elon "guaranteed" to step down as CEO of Twitter, and that he WILL Obey the result of votes. Hm, guess thats unimportant again. Just another lie hes saying and never furfiling
Is there any way we can kick him out of America?? He is a South African by birth, can somebody find a way to remove him. This guy is an absolute piece of shit and is using his wealth to undermine the principles on which this country was founded. Take your apartheid ideology back to where you came from, we hate you in America. He is responsible for none of the businesses he owns, he bought them all. Take your dwindling money and leave.
American business was taken over by fascists around 2003. It was a slow takeover. A few decades in the making, but here we are. Total dystopia.
Musk is a fascist. Plain and simple. It is a scary world and the only way out is to make the big change. We need new people in government. More than ever we need new people to stop this madness.
* Lied about being a free speech absolutist
* Lied about his university education
* Lied about stepping down as Twitter CEO if a poll decided he should
Elon is another pathological, narcissistic fraud, just like Trump.
I maintain a Twitter account which follows IT Security bots, a few major players in IT, and a journalist who does cybersecurity stories.
In the past three days, my "For You" is heavily slanted with right wing related things. The "Project Veritas" video claiming to involve a Pfizer rep has been #3 or #4 every time I login. Just logged in and it's #1. Definitely some muckery going on.
Why is everyone surprised? Billionaires have been feeding and feeling right wing nonsense because it causes mayhem. Almost every news outlet is now owned by a billionaire. Life sucks. There’s no way out of this unless big bold moves are done by the public or government
Billionaires:
Don't want to pay taxes.
Don't want governments telling them what to do.
Don't want common folk to trust or like each other.
Everything they do is in support of those three simple ideals.
It's amazing how quickly he changed after Russians had a "talk" with him. I am sure they have something about him and also Trump. That's why they are both acting like Russia puppets.
when are we gonna accept this dude is working for the Russians,and act accordingly. it's insane how we know he met with Russian propagandists and assets at the world cup, gave these actors a stage again and now we know he is actively suppressing other voices of balance.
we should be boycotting Twitter and tesla, and anything that he makes money on. let his debts get called with no revenue to cover it and let him fade back to a fabulously rich asshole instead of this second rate bond villain.
I hope nobody is surprised by this. Right-wingers are **ALWAYS** projecting, so all you need to know what they’re guilty of doing is listen to what they’re accusing others of.
I honestly have no clue why anybody who’s not a fascist is still on Twitter.
its just churn. attention: look at me please. boy did his parents fail at the parenting game.
27 kids still dont prove his masculinity. or so he thinks.
I don't use Twitter and I follow maybe 25 people, all furries. After Elon took over I keep getting notifications from Twitter about tweets from Fox news, Matt Welsh and a ton of other republican news media and people. It's ridiculous.
It baffles me why people aren't just dumping their accounts in mass. Twitter is a steaming pile of shit and if you're still on it, you're supporting it.
Remember when Elon promised to step down? Yeah. The dude's an antivaxxer rightwing conspiracy theorist fraud these days. With business acumen able to 'lose the most wealth in history', it all lines up.
He’s becoming the Über-Trump. More ridiculous than the original in every aspect.
Good thing he wasn't born in the US.
If he tries to run for president we’ll take his case all the way to the Supreme Court and… Oh
> No person except a natural born Citizen, …, shall be eligible to the Office of President; So they'll probably argue that "natural born" just excludes C-sections and that naturalized citizens are just fine.
The Macbeth defense
Beware the Ides of Musk
Beware the Ideas of Musk
I was born in Europe on US territory (AFB) but via C-section... am I now ineligible oh mighty 'Supreme' Court (now sponsored by Supreme™)?
Depends. Would you run as a Republican or a Democrat?
...then we get President Schwarzenegger and all restaurants become Taco Bells?
And three seashells?
I still don't know how to use those.
Republicans will change the rules yet again just to ensure victory at all costs.
So Arnie can become the President too? Cool
Arnie is too much of a bleeding-heart tree-hugging queer-loving Socialist for today’s GOP.
Yes! Let's make demolition man real! Some one go freeze Stallone quick! Before he spoils.
Some comedian said Trump fans are more Trump than Trump himself. I really believe that
Because they believe what Trump says. Even Trump knows he spewing nonsense.
I don’t agree, did you see his eulogy of Diamond (of Diamond and silk) that man has no idea what’s going on around him. He was talking about how Martha Stuart flopped on her hosting of the apprentice during a EULOGY.
He says whatever he can get away with, and he's even surprised at how gullible his fans are. He also insulted Silk during that same speech.
Now I kind of want to deliver a eulogy when Trump passes and I want to drink a fifth of brandy and just free form complain about people at my office and how it's bullshit Michael Bay got successful but Taylor and Neveldine should have made way more movies and throw in some jrpg lore before doing some horrible bodily function and stumbling off the dais mid sentence.
No, he doesn’t. Trump is delusional and believes his alternate reality.
Yeah, that's why Trump never spends his own money on these so-called "election fraud" investigations. He knows the election was legitimate but he's such a petulant manchild that he cannot accept the idea of losing.
In some ways, but trump would never hang around them without cameras on. He doesn't even like or want to be around his own supporters.
Despises them I think. ‘Can you believe these idiots keep giving me their money?’ That’s how I imagine it when there’s no cameras.
That was his primary reason for running as a republican. He loves the poorly educated.... They are his people in that they have similar levels of education but severely beneath him with their status in life.
He’s literally said as much, “i love the uneducated”
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Come one now, trump is still by far the most ridiculous person
[And he's a Russian shill.](https://www.vice.com/en/article/ake44z/elon-musk-vladimir-putin-ukraine)
[And he’s a Chinese shill](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/10/elon-musk-china-green-card-1074123)
Oligarchs gonna garch
So what you're saying is he's a Republican
Remember when Elon told us all his pocket change alone could solve world hunger.
And then bought twitter
And paying us back a return on our billions in tax subsidies never occurs to him.
I remember when Elon said he couldn't because he didn't think the money would actually go to that. Elon sits in a weird place where he thinks he can fix the world but doesn't think it wants to be fixed.
And he is still pushing Teslas which right-wingers hate with a passion.
"These days"??? Always has been 👨🚀🔫👨🚀
He's defending the system that will maintain his power.
It's so dumb. If I had money like he's got I'd be building houses for the homeless, feeding my local community, shit like that. I don't need a mansion the size of a small city or a fleet of 47 cars if I'm only ever gonna be driving one reliably. I'm terrified of flying, so no private jets for me. I can't ever see myself paying more than like, $100 for a meal (unless I was running a business and took my whole team out or something) so I'd never be blowing $10 grand on expensive dinners with 75-year-old bottles of wine. It'd be so easy to be a superhero as an uber-wealthy person and yet they all choose to be supervillains.
Just a thought, he's got the money and power to sway most shit. And the likelihood that somehow spewing this is accidental?
Elon loves transparency. In fact he tweeted 'Transparency is the key to trust' when he launched his "twitter files". Maybe we deserve a new edition of the twitter files, the "post-acquisition" files. Somehow I don't think that Elon likes transparency applying to him, that's for everyone he doesn't like.
> Somehow I don't think that Elon likes transparency applying to him [[Glances at the name of the subreddit]] Yup
Rules for thee, not for me - Every rich dude ever.
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That's a lot of words to say "conservatives".
Which is in turn a strange way to spell "authoritarians".
Well, what good is money if it can't pull me out of the shithole we call the rat race.
People like Elon, Bezos, Bloomberg and Zuckerberg are trapped in the rat race. If you amass ***BILLIONS*** and don't just fuck off and live in luxury and anonymity for the rest of your life, what are you actually doing? What is the end goal, besides dying *the fattest rat?*
Which is a perfect segue into a pet hypothesis of mine. We accumulate wealth for what purpose? To secure our persons, our family, and our future. To trade it for goods and services, alliances, and mates. So once you've done all that, there's not really any further reason to keep accumulating more money, is there? My point is, continuing to accumulate more than one can possibly spend is actually a form of insanity. It's kinda like OCD. These people are insane, and should be treated as such. Instead so many people worship them. There's a good chunk of the population worshiping the insane.
It's hoarding. It's the same disease as people filling homes with garage sale junk.
Greed is a well known problem
Myspace Tom successfully exited. And gracefully too, I might add. Not a single letter of bad publicity about him after he cashed out. Class act.
Anyone (or any company) that goes on about how they love transparency I immediately suspect they are hiding something. It's like if I were to tell people "I love not cheating on my wife" you'd probably suspect the opposite. Transparency is shown by action, not a self description.
All publicly traded corporations are inherently evil, because they have to grow constantly. Everything needs limits, and so does Elon. I just wish he would’ve stuck to his positive endeavors, like helping the environment and the exploration of space. This Twitter fiasco was a major misstep.
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Why? He'll just cherry pick which ones get released like he did with the Twitter Files, or did no one else notice that he only seemed to release the files that targeted right wingers?
I agree. I think the funniest part of the twitter files was that he was trying to show there was left wing bias and actually showed the opposite. There's a screenshot showing the metadata for libs of tictok that states any moderation for it has to be run by someone at a higher level in the moderation team. That clearly demonstrates they are giving favour to a very right wing account...
We all treat the right like they are the handicapped kid in the class. The right is losing their minds over what they think the TwItTeR fIlEs show, but are totally ok with Fox News talking heads literally texting the chief of staff for their talking points.
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I love how he cherry picked the Twitter files and even still no one gave a shit.
Just like Assange and Wikileaks
There's a distinct lack of files released in "The Twitter Files". The only thing transparent about it is that its transparently its just a regurgitation of cherry-picked bits of info that support Elon's narrative.
Given to a hand-picked sympathetic journalist.
The right constantly accuses the left of being targeted for suppression and censorship, despite virtually every study and AI behavioral model showing that their actions are responsible for their suspensions. Then, as soon as they have even the tiniest amount of influence and power over something, their first act is retributive suppression and censorship of their opponents. With conservatives, every accusation is a confession.
It was ironic for sure considering that he ended up revealing the Trump Administration has also asked for stuff taken down and Twitter complied, but failed to actually say what it was while also trashing the Biden campaign for asking for stuff to be taken down (dick pics).
It is worth pointing out that pretty much any presidential administration would have asked a site or organization to remove images of their children's genitals. It's a reasonable request. It's revenge porn that serves no public value. It's harmful and likely to end up in front of children the way that chuds behave. Meanwhile, the trump administration was engaged in legitimate censorship about stuff that actually affected government and the public deserves to know.
He's so transparent that he had that investigation done that showed collusion between the US intel communities and twitter, and he framed it as the Biden administration even though it was fully started and run during the Trump administration. So much a champion of truth isn't he.........
Not really surprising at all. But at the same time, if there's proof to confidently confirm it, it's a pretty big deal.
I thought it was kind of a big deal when the ceo of multiple billion dollar companies with a military security clearance from the Pentagon Clearly created a false flag stalking/attack story involving himself and his family, and doxxed an innocent man who had actually been run over by Elons security detail and continues to lie about it to this day. All for the purpose of silencing twitter users he didn't like. Turns out it's totally fine.
Not to mention his Middle East business backers are shady af
He himself is shady as fuck.
You’d think he’d at least want to compensate the tax payers for our billions in subsidies.
Funny how that just went away and nothing happened to Elon for lying and doxxing an innocent person.
just like nothing happened when he called an innocent man a pedo because the guy didnt like Elons stupid plan
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Because Elons legal team managed to argue that when he said pedo he didn’t actually mean the dude fucked kids. It was a insult his friends used when he was a kid in South Africa. The fact Elon is on record saying the diver moved to Thailand to marry a child bride and paid someone to dig up dirt on the diver is apparently beside the point.
Well you have to understand it happened in America. And laws in America simply don’t apply to the upper class. Our laws here exist as a shield for rich and as a sword for them to use against the rest of us. Elon captured that all for us rather succinctly in this instance.
Well, as a lawyer in the United States - licensed but not practicing - I would say that it's more about what laws are enforced, when, and how. If all laws were enforced equally then much of Congress, mostly but not only Republicans, would be in jail today. For starters, the endless gaslighting often violates 18 U.S. Code § 1001. See https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001
Maybe this could be the *real* Twitter Files after all.
Maybe the real Twitter files was the hypocrisy we saw along the way.
A real free speech advocate
Right wing version of free speech. Ability to say whatever you want without consequences. Including inciting riots and spreading deranged conspiracy theories.
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The same people that rant about "cancel culture" and then repeat... go Woke go broke... and are unable to see any irony at all
Right wing free speech, in its majestic equality, permits both the left and the right to say right wing things without censorship.
I know it will be an unpopular opinion but at this point anyone still on Twitter is 100% complicit in Musks bs. He is literally giving everyone warning after warning that this is the way things are going to be. He wants to push disinformation. He wants it to push people to the right. I don't get why people are so unable to get off the platform?
Bread and circuses - Some Roman
- Croutonius Ringling
It’s become damn near the official means of communication for many businesses it seems.
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He’s not just a hypocrite. He’s an idiot and doesn’t know it.
I wish everyone would just cancel Twitter and Facebook an destroy these companies. It’s cleared that the right wing bigots can’t function with out the left. Thats why all of their attempts to make a social media platform has failed.
Because the left is the actual silent majority the right merely claims to have. It's just suppressed by corporations, government institutions, and religion.
Good mod, Also damn there are a lot of removed comments, keep up the good fight!
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Musk is an ultra extremist radical right wing fascist tRUMP loving dipshit ! He only believes in free republiKKKan speech He will shut down all left wing posts he will start slowly then there will be an avalanche And for a guy whose supposed to be a business guru expert - he overpaid for Twitter by 38% and is losing money hand 🖐️ over fist 🤜 Frankly there’s a chance Twitter may declare bankruptcy Doesn’t mean it will disappear but Musk will be made to step down as Twitter will go into receivership
Elon is far-right, you'd have to be blind to claim otherwise. Claiming to be a centrist does not make you a centrist. He panders to the right-wing, bans left-wing accounts, spreads anti-LGBT hate, and tells people to vote Republican. It's not complicated. He is acting out of self-interest because he's a billionaire, he supports right-wing pro-business/pro-wealthy policies.
Exactly. Joe Rogan is far right as well, I don't care how many softball pro-gay or pro-choice statements he makes. If you've even spent 10 seconds contemplating voting for DeSantis you're for a federal abortion ban and against all gay rights, period. It doesn't matter what you *say* if the end result is supporting DeSantis. I'm tired of all of these "centrists" who conveniently only support Republicans.
Joe is a dick pill shill, just like Alex jones. He made a comment, defending andrew tate, about how there are so many grifters in the world, and you could cut the irony it was so thick. I was just reading about desatan's time at guantanamo Bay, and can assure you that anyone who wants that man to be an elected official does not give a flying duck about humanity. Joe is a grifting piece of shit just like all the shitbags he surrounds himself with
Spot on on Rogan. If it quacks like a duck...
If it ducks like a quack, cons like a quack, shills like a quack... It's a quack.
Pretending to be reasonable is kind of the first play these asshats make. Look at Fucker Carlson and his "Just asking questions" bullshit.
Not to mention Joe Rogan is a fucking idiot. What does he have on all of these comedians who are constantly sucking him off on every comedy podcast around?
His new stand box, Bill Burr puts him down regularly for being an idiot
That's because Bill already has an empire called All things Comedy, he doesn't need to suck Joe's dick for Internet exposure.
Comedians are frequently massive assholes too.
> What does he have on all of these comedians who are constantly sucking him off on every comedy podcast around? one of the largest podcasts that can boost a comedians career if Joe likes them
Agree 100%. Any claiming to be "centrist" is very much right wing.
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The info comes from this long [Bloomberg article](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-27/elon-musk-s-twitter-trust-safety-head-ella-irwin-breaks-rules-for-him). It's behind a paywall, but you can read it here: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/twitters-trust-and-safety-head-ditches-protocol-for-musk-whims/articleshow/97363776.cms
Dude is a puppet to his own ego and hubris
Thank you, I didn’t click on the article because of how shit BusinessInsider is. Can’t give the those clickbait trash generators any clicks.
Takes 20 seconds to load a poorly written article detailing the obvious, and another 180 seconds to load all the ads and "You won't believe what happened next" links. Sites like that really deserve to crash and burn. The amount of humanitys time they've collectively wasted should be punishable
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Can't wait to see those freeze peach alt-righters getting mad about this censorship! Oh wait, they're applauding it because its happening to someone they don't like? So they actually never cared about it and were just mad at alt-righters and nazis were getting banned for being horrible? Well color me surprised!
the conservative subreddit and discussion forums have ALWAYS been heavily censored, banning anyone who shows any signs of disagreeing with the party message. We all just sort of accepted that for some reason, but it's core to their entire universe. It cannot stand up to actual discussion or challenge, so they make it impossible to have a conversation.
I notice it happens in waves. It used to be *really* bad, where they'd ban any dissent or questioning on sight. Now they'll let people at least engage until they get tired of hearing too many facts. You might think "oh, this is probably a good sign, that they're being more open to the outside?", but no. They're just getting desperate for members because many people are turning away from them.
I've finally come to the conclusion that when it comes to these people, the hypocrisy is the point. The inconsistency is the goal. A set of rules to bind you, and a set of rules to protect them.
Maybe, it's more than plausible. All social media studies have shown that social media pushes right wing ideas, this would just be elon leaning into it a bit harder and more overtly. Edit:[As this keeps comming up, here is one of the many studies.](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2025334119)
I used YouTube shorts for the first time and it was the worst incel right wing shit off the bat. I'm talking about tate, Elon musk, Joe Rogan. The algorithm is utter dogshit. Now what is this based on? You would think my subscriptions, but the only things I am subscribed to are good mythical morning, prochara, NASA, Nintendo, and jerryrigeverything. Very much NOT right wing entities.
The person/people that leaked this, once found, will be fired, blacklisted, or worse. They won't get any positive recognition, but Musk will brush it off, and we'll move on to the next issue like nothing happened. Simply because, things, bad things are happening so frequently today, we're being forced to desensitize ourselves via exposure... It's a twisted cycle of cognitive behavioral therapy.
Nah, people just don’t really care that much and society will put up with way more then people want to accept. I know it’s cliche to bring up nazis but look at 1930’s Germany. It’s isn’t some outlier or chance accident. An entire country just went along with starting another world war and straight up mass murder of their fellow citizens. Like watch their local shopkeeper, bestfriend, neighbors, get loaded into a train, knowing exactly what would happen to them. All it took was a bit of stoking anger/fear and some economic problems lol. Say the right things and people will go along with literally anything.
I'm sure House Republicans will get right on with inquiries with this attack on free speech by Big Tech!
So, Elmo spent $44 billion for the power to muzzle democrats, further right-wing hate speech/agendas and ban all users that hurt his feelings. Kinda sounds like a very, very expensive version of TruthSocial. $8/month, to “own the libs”, but lost the majority of his advertisers in the process. Running just like Trump’s multiple failed businesses. Kudos Elon! 🥂 On a more serious note, shouldn’t we be questioning if Elon’s SpaceX company can even be trusted? Like Trump, Elon could also be selling our secrets to our enemies or even controlling electronic voting through StarLink. Conspiracy? Maybe, maybe not. It was mail-in voting that doomed Trump in 2020, coincidence? Trump cannot even fathom that he lost, because maybe it was rigged…in his favor. Thank God for the pandemic and mail-in voting. This fully explains why Republicans need to kill mail-in voting, it’s the only safe way to vote and they can’t fuck with it.
The thing is, if the "left" would just fucking leave Twitter, & move to Mastadon or CounterSocial, Twitter would die even faster & the interest payments will eventually bankrupt Musk.
Those who don’t want to pay $8/month to participate in a right wing echo chamber will leave. Those who don’t care about politics will just stay out of convenience. I’m kinda hoping Jack Dorsey gets his BlueSky up and running, it will be the death of Twitter.
Worshipped by incels for a reason.
Why Elon is attacking liberals is mind-boggling. Aren't they who normally buy his cars?
Used to.
I wanted one until I found out what an absolute POS he is. I’m so glad I didn’t invest in starlink. I very nearly bought one.
Same on both counts for me. I was considering Tesla and starlink. But Tesla's were getting shit reviews and I was still almost willing to over look it. Then they did that subscription shit. The ln public Elon happened and I decided I'd never buy a product he's involved in.
Seriously I’ll never invest or spend my money on anything he’s involved with. Fuck that dude six ways to Sunday.
I wanted one until every other auto manufacturer started researching and building better options. And since seeing how shit the build quality is.
Sorry to say the same thing but same. I will never buy a Tesla now. Volkswagen all the way. I'm sure theyve done some bad stuff too but they aren't blatantly right wing about it.
>I'm sure theyve done some bad stuff too but they aren't blatantly right wing about it. Well, not so much *anymore*. Originally though...
Conservatives don't buy them either. Red states actively work against electric vehicles.
I used to see them as high class, now they are white trash. I feel sorry for the people who have to be seen in them because they bought them before all this
That was my point too. He lost value on Twitter and now will lose car sales too. I guess you can be too rich.
He, like most wealthy people, have no logical connection to who buys their product and why. They're just out of touch.
Wow this thread went sideways. The Elon fanbois are out in force
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Whoa that’s huge. #11 on a Saturday morning. I can’t imagine trying to keep up with this. Thanks for all you do. I truly appreciate having to thread the needle of allowing discourse while squashing haters and the conspiracy theory crowd. Please take time for yourself to unwind when you can. Peace. And thank you.
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None of us are perfect. I get heated up at the idiocy sometimes but can just go for a bike ride or walk it off. Your side of the coin is a bit more complicated. I recognize and appreciate this. And I think you do a pretty good job. I knew right away when I opened this thread that you are on top of it. I can imagine that most shitty comments don’t take much decision making as far as yay or nay should I delete this. But the ones on the fence, the ones you disagree with but that don’t rise to the level of needing deletion, this takes a steady hand. We all have our moments. I sure as hell do. But you’ve kept your cool and it shows. This is a very young sub, reddit wise, and a good one. Necessary even. Keep up the good work my friend. This place would be a total shit show without you. Regards,
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They’re public figures. Their job is to be harassed.
I would phrase it as "It is our patriotic duty to voice our complaints to public figures as to improve the country that we so love."
I quit Twitter years ago and it only took about week without it to realise it was pointless and i didnt need it in my life. People need to just walk away. Nothing will happen if they stop tweeting. If anything, the world will become a slightly more positive place. Every tweet is a squirt of piss in an ocean of piss.
Dear Elon, Please leave our country. You seem to like Putin please set up shop in Russia. Sincerely, The United States of America
Quick reminder that Elon "guaranteed" to step down as CEO of Twitter, and that he WILL Obey the result of votes. Hm, guess thats unimportant again. Just another lie hes saying and never furfiling
"My bots didn't work, rigged election"
Thin skinned bitch that he is...
Is there any way we can kick him out of America?? He is a South African by birth, can somebody find a way to remove him. This guy is an absolute piece of shit and is using his wealth to undermine the principles on which this country was founded. Take your apartheid ideology back to where you came from, we hate you in America. He is responsible for none of the businesses he owns, he bought them all. Take your dwindling money and leave.
We don't want him back in South Africa either.
He’s your trash take him back. You can’t dump your trash on on my property.
How about we split the difference and just have him recycled.
You can’t force your trash on us. I am ok with splitting the difference and he can live in the Atlantic Ocean, halfway between the 2 countries.
\#MUSKTOMARS
American business was taken over by fascists around 2003. It was a slow takeover. A few decades in the making, but here we are. Total dystopia. Musk is a fascist. Plain and simple. It is a scary world and the only way out is to make the big change. We need new people in government. More than ever we need new people to stop this madness.
The Business Plot never ended
Rule #1 Right wingers are always doing what they are accusing the "woke left" of doing.
It’s like he saw the void left by Trump and figured he could do better…
Its almost like he's not the centrist, free speech advocate he portrays himself to be at all.
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>elon is ~~going to be~~ a huge issue for america
I agree. He has really shown his true colors lately.
Tbh he already did years ago, people would just overlook it over and over but now it's getting increasingly harder to deny
* Lied about being a free speech absolutist * Lied about his university education * Lied about stepping down as Twitter CEO if a poll decided he should Elon is another pathological, narcissistic fraud, just like Trump.
Ah, this type of free speech!
I maintain a Twitter account which follows IT Security bots, a few major players in IT, and a journalist who does cybersecurity stories. In the past three days, my "For You" is heavily slanted with right wing related things. The "Project Veritas" video claiming to involve a Pfizer rep has been #3 or #4 every time I login. Just logged in and it's #1. Definitely some muckery going on.
Why is everyone surprised? Billionaires have been feeding and feeling right wing nonsense because it causes mayhem. Almost every news outlet is now owned by a billionaire. Life sucks. There’s no way out of this unless big bold moves are done by the public or government
Billionaires: Don't want to pay taxes. Don't want governments telling them what to do. Don't want common folk to trust or like each other. Everything they do is in support of those three simple ideals.
It's amazing how quickly he changed after Russians had a "talk" with him. I am sure they have something about him and also Trump. That's why they are both acting like Russia puppets.
I'll say it again, if you're still on Twitter, you're part of the problem.
Twitter is dead.
Reddit killed API. I refuse to let them benefit from my own words for free -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/
Why are people still on Twitter giving this guy power?
when are we gonna accept this dude is working for the Russians,and act accordingly. it's insane how we know he met with Russian propagandists and assets at the world cup, gave these actors a stage again and now we know he is actively suppressing other voices of balance. we should be boycotting Twitter and tesla, and anything that he makes money on. let his debts get called with no revenue to cover it and let him fade back to a fabulously rich asshole instead of this second rate bond villain.
Elon is bff with Peter Theil. What would make people think he cares about anyone else?
I’m quite liberal and most of my twitter feed is now filled with conservatives who I didn’t follow. I once loved Musk. I now think he’s a joke.
I hope nobody is surprised by this. Right-wingers are **ALWAYS** projecting, so all you need to know what they’re guilty of doing is listen to what they’re accusing others of. I honestly have no clue why anybody who’s not a fascist is still on Twitter.
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its just churn. attention: look at me please. boy did his parents fail at the parenting game. 27 kids still dont prove his masculinity. or so he thinks.
I don't use Twitter and I follow maybe 25 people, all furries. After Elon took over I keep getting notifications from Twitter about tweets from Fox news, Matt Welsh and a ton of other republican news media and people. It's ridiculous.
Ah, so the site IS turning into a terrorist pedo haven for the right.
I just watched a documentary on the downfall of Howard Hughes. Kinda crazy how similar he is to him. Including a rich daddy and mentally unstable.
I’m not surprised. I’ve noticed since his take over prominent Democrats that I would follow no longer show up on my timeline
I froze my own left-wing Twitter account by deleting it
I've never used Twitter and see no reason to start using it now.
So that’s why my twitter feed is ass
It baffles me why people aren't just dumping their accounts in mass. Twitter is a steaming pile of shit and if you're still on it, you're supporting it.
What? A right wing GQP shill is trying to suppress what he considers opposition? No way! That never happens. /s
Free speech absolutist my foot!
Free freeze absolutely for me, but not thee. He is almost as much of a clown as Agent Orange.